Joe Mesi v Vassiliy Jirov

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  • Опубліковано 3 лют 2018
  • Joe Mesi v Vassiliy Jirov
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  • @walterallantan1225
    @walterallantan1225 Рік тому +2

    That punch in the back of the head started all the brain damage Mesi received

  • @mr-mfker2u29
    @mr-mfker2u29 3 роки тому +7

    Klitschko would have murdered Messi

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 2 роки тому +1

      He murdered almost everyone.Mesi was decent but not a champion level heavyweight.I enjoyed watching him because he always fought.Not like a lot of these top boxers who scam the public.

  • @ryanoryniak8093
    @ryanoryniak8093 3 роки тому +4

    Craziest last round comeback that was not completed, ever.

    • @shafo4384
      @shafo4384 8 місяців тому

      Martinez Chavez and Vargas Bradley are up there too.

  • @normandunnaganjr.5034
    @normandunnaganjr.5034 2 роки тому +3

    You never want the smaller heavy to establish respect especially early, here we see Jirov landing his money left hand to the body mid round, forcing Mesi into a wincing respectful clinch. Kinda reminds me of how Usyk handled aj in round one with the two crosses and the overhand left. If you’re the big man, you can’t let a little guy do that. :52 in the first, jirov throws his money liver left body shot and Joe directly ducks into it, and that one hurt

  • @danielvazquez7482
    @danielvazquez7482 2 роки тому +2

    Between this and the Toney fight I think Jirov was traumatized which effected almost every other fight. Imagine going from not being able to loose to not being able to win in just two fights. Truly sad because he was a great fighter.

    • @M-ps6ve
      @M-ps6ve 13 днів тому

      best of luck in learning how to spell, r e t a r d. jirov literally killed messi in this fight

  • @tomfilus6030
    @tomfilus6030 2 роки тому +3

    I hope to this day Jirov is doing well. He took a ton of punishment in wins and losses. More so than the average boxer I mean. Jirov won this fight against Mesi the tomato can. Would like to have seen James Toney and Mesi along with Lou Savarese vs Jirov....

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 2 роки тому +1

      Mesi was a decent heavyweight.No tomato can.He had power and could box.He wasn't top 5 but definitely top 10 at his peak.He had that brain injury that detailed his career but he could've had some big fights if he didn't get hurt.He wasn't a fraud.

    • @BOREDANDWELLBORED
      @BOREDANDWELLBORED 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I remember watching this fight and before it even happened I told myself "what the hell is wrong with mesi? Is he out of his mind? Jirov is a real fighter! He needs to go back to fighting nobodies" 😆 obviously Jirov won this fight but I gave mesi credit for surviving, he definitely deserve the "win" for having guts to face a real fighter.

  • @pugilemoltobene3708
    @pugilemoltobene3708 4 роки тому +1

    They didn’t think Jirov was going to be that tough

    • @annalisagomes2743
      @annalisagomes2743 3 роки тому

      Jirov did not have answer until he started hitting Mesi in the back of the head and nape in the 10th round. H e lost the first 9 rounds.

  • @coveyssteve
    @coveyssteve 2 роки тому +3

    This was the fight that led to a subdural hematoma for Mesi, and because the Nevada boxing commission to refuse to let him fight even after it was healed. He had three doctors with them to testify when he appealed the lifting of his license, but no go. Two years off and then he fought a little against easy opposition, but nobody good was willing to fight him. Ended with a record of 36-0. A fine fighter who might've gone all the way, but who got a bad break,

    • @Jacksonjames4
      @Jacksonjames4 Рік тому +1

      He wasn’t good. Settle down.

    • @Paul-sl9zm
      @Paul-sl9zm Рік тому +1

      @@Jacksonjames4
      He was 36-0, he was more than "not good"

    • @jamesrich8463
      @jamesrich8463 10 місяців тому

      They saved Mesi from himself...to risky, he could have died and no one would want that.

  • @WattUNeed
    @WattUNeed 2 роки тому +1

    Jirov could really fight!

  • @burnttoasttours8712
    @burnttoasttours8712 Рік тому +2

    'typical' american "scoring"

  • @JoseLopez-yj8cq
    @JoseLopez-yj8cq 3 роки тому +2

    I can't believe what did the referee. Very stupid move to counting as a knockdown. Was an illegal punch back of the head.

    • @may_laytrucker3127
      @may_laytrucker3127 3 роки тому

      Yes he's stupid ref, if I'm not mistaken he got punched by some boxer before

  • @chaselim3963
    @chaselim3963 3 роки тому +1

    22:21 damn

  • @iwannatalktosampson
    @iwannatalktosampson 4 роки тому +3

    I remember watching this fight live, and thinking Jirov got screwed. He did get screwed. I also remember watching this fight, watching the knockdowns, and then watching the knockdowns in slo mo replay and thinking damn, Mesi will never be the same after this. Sure enough, he wasn't. Dude had to retire after this fight. Jirov hit him so damn hard that he jiggled his brain loose, basically. Bleeding in the brain.

    • @annalisagomes2743
      @annalisagomes2743 3 роки тому +3

      The first knockdown was illegal hitting at the back of the head. He should have been deducted. He never won the fight. He hit Mesi with more illegal blows behind the head. He should have been disqualified. Jirov is a stupid boxer doing illegal things in this fight because he knew he could not win fair and square. And even Jirov was cheating, it was not enough. He could cheat all his life but he can never beat an undefeated Mesi. It was too bad it was the end of Mesi's career because of the ILLEGAL BLOWS TO BACK OF HIS HEAD AND NAPE he received from Jirov.

    • @iwannatalktosampson
      @iwannatalktosampson 3 роки тому +5

      @@annalisagomes2743 Ummmmmmm, the punches to the "back" of his head happened because as Jirov swung, Mesi ducked under, and move in. So, Jirov would throw a punch at a target that was further back when originally intended, and that's why there would be grazing blows to the back of the head of Mesi. It's not intentional, the other person basically puts themself in the way of the punch going in a certain area, and that's why it's not a deduction.

    • @annalisagomes2743
      @annalisagomes2743 3 роки тому +3

      @@iwannatalktosampson Still illegal. That's the boxing rule. It can damage the brain easier than when you are punching in the face. The brain is situated behind the head (skull). The blood vessel runs through the nape. In MMA, they squeeze your neck. In boxing, it cuts off the flow and shakes your brain.
      If you see the history of Jirov vs Mesi - it ended his career because of neurological and brain damage.

    • @annalisagomes2743
      @annalisagomes2743 3 роки тому

      @@iwannatalktosampson Jirov is doing him dirty. Have you seen Mesi punch like that? That's the purpose and intention. Jirov never punches legally. He was clotheslining the Mesi all the time.
      www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/nov/25/head-neck-injuries-phil-hughes-doctor
      However, the neck has very little protection. And it has lots of important structures in it, not least some of the main arteries in the body which supply blood to the brain. Any blunt force to the neck can damage these vessels, and if you restrict blood flow to the brain it can lead to serious neurological injuries.

    • @annalisagomes2743
      @annalisagomes2743 3 роки тому +1

      @@iwannatalktosampson Jirov should have been suspended for life.

  • @MrCarltonjsmith
    @MrCarltonjsmith 3 роки тому +1

    Jay Nady is so fucking inconsistent. Masi did NOT walk to him after that second knockdown in the 10th round yet Nady let it continue when everyone could see Mesi had NOTHING.

    • @kforcer
      @kforcer 2 роки тому

      Yep. Absolutely. And he did nothing too great Mesi's clinches in the final round either.

    • @jamesrich8463
      @jamesrich8463 10 місяців тому

      We don't know the brain bleeding happened in the 9th round could have been the beating he took at the end of the 10th when he was basically out on his feet. But the ref let him continue and get his face smashed in until the finishing bell and well Mesi was finished after that.

  • @thepettythoughtzpodcast1825
    @thepettythoughtzpodcast1825 3 роки тому +3

    Jirov only won the the 10th 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @advocatusdiaboli9
      @advocatusdiaboli9 3 роки тому +1

      Not true. He won 3 or 4 rounds counting 9 and 10.

    • @lawsonransom8318
      @lawsonransom8318 3 роки тому +1

      @@advocatusdiaboli9 not true he only won the 10th.

    • @ziggyc4474
      @ziggyc4474 2 роки тому

      I'd say 3 rounds

    • @thepettythoughtzpodcast1825
      @thepettythoughtzpodcast1825 2 роки тому +2

      After rewatching this… Mesi got his ass kicked lol

    • @BOREDANDWELLBORED
      @BOREDANDWELLBORED 2 роки тому

      Jirov is a real 12 round golden glove Olympic fighter. They picked him because he was smaller 😆 stupid mesi camp, underestimated him. Mesi lost, they knew if it was 12 rounds mesi would be put to sleep.

  • @Ro-life1
    @Ro-life1 3 роки тому +1

    GREAT FIGHT!!! Little to no genuine cheating on either fighters part to be frank about it. IF....and I repeat if one of these two men were to be deemed a dirty fighter based solely on this match-up, sorry folks, but it's Mesi.

  • @frankcarolei9998
    @frankcarolei9998 3 роки тому +2

    Joe messi number 6 heavyweight of all time

    • @MrCENTROMAN1
      @MrCENTROMAN1 2 роки тому

      He's not even a world champion. Cruiser almost won

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 2 роки тому

      Mesi wasn't a fraud.That's saying a lot from this era e.g. Hurricane McNeely,but come on!#6?He's not in the top 100.Maybe if he knocked Jirov out early he would've had a big pay per view bout but unfortunately he had the injury.There's no shame in just being a solid heavyweight.

    • @coveyssteve
      @coveyssteve 2 роки тому

      That seems a great stretch, but he was definitely a very good fighter who got a bad break.

  • @datapro007
    @datapro007 3 роки тому +8

    Mesi was a fraud, top to bottom. I saw him fight in-person 9-27-2003. There, they fed him DaVarryl Williamson, the bum of the month. Jirov was flat out robbed in this fight. No wonder boxing is no longer popular.

    • @RIDGEMATIC
      @RIDGEMATIC 2 роки тому

      Facts

    • @Jacksonjames4
      @Jacksonjames4 2 роки тому +4

      I’m from Buffalo. I used to box at the same gym Mesi did when we were younger. I could never understand why this dude got the attention he did. He was horrible.

    • @datapro007
      @datapro007 2 роки тому +1

      @@RIDGEMATIC Have you watched this fight?

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 2 роки тому +1

      That's b.s.!He wasn't championship level but he beat Monte Barrett who was a good heavyweight and was easily beating Jirov before the rabbit punch that essentially ended his career.Joe had a great amature career and beat Hasim Rahman.He almost made the Olympics.He was a good heavyweight.

    • @datapro007
      @datapro007 2 роки тому

      @@steveoshei1819 Let me guess... 1) You're from Buffalo? 2) You're Italian? Ok, I give up.

  • @mikealba1814
    @mikealba1814 5 років тому +5

    Got robbed just like GGG

  • @donaldwhitten2438
    @donaldwhitten2438 4 роки тому

    I could never stand that referee JAY NATIE

  • @MrRaErickson
    @MrRaErickson 4 роки тому +6

    Jirov won that

    • @MrRaErickson
      @MrRaErickson 4 роки тому

      @cyril layman lol I guess that means everything is ok. People lose all the time that clearly win.

    • @stevetexco1194
      @stevetexco1194 3 роки тому

      Greatest rabbit puncher of all time, agreed

  • @may_laytrucker3127
    @may_laytrucker3127 3 роки тому

    Joe mesi had terrible promoter, never made a good fight deal for him😌

  • @apex_prowler95
    @apex_prowler95 2 роки тому +1

    How about both these guys were overrated. 🤔👍

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 2 роки тому +3

      You don't know whar you're talking about.Jirov was a champion at cruiserweight.Joe was a decent boxer also.What?Does everyone suck expect the champion?These were 2 world class boxers.

    • @johnknope1664
      @johnknope1664 Рік тому

      @@steveoshei1819 he said over rated.

    • @steveoshei1819
      @steveoshei1819 Рік тому +1

      @@johnknope1664 they weren't