I feel this magnetization from our modern world very acutely as you describe. As a teenager I saw Iphones become commonplace, and through my young adulthood I have searched for spiritual meaning against subsistence and a "mundane" world as you describe. There are sentiments in people I meet of desires unfulfilled of the spiritual, but we are largely pressed to the present by others. In the past year I did much to re-orient as much of the spiritual path into my life as I am able, from getting rid of my gaming consoles and computers, to finally getting a simple flip phone (I have now grown to love! ) and will continue to move this way. Thank you for these videos for helping expose me to this knowledge
Dear Lama, If you gave up your robes I would not blame you or respect you any less. The teachings you give are so valuable to me. I'm lucky to have the karma to meet with them.
Hi Middy your words comfort me greatly. This path is in no way easy and in many ways very lonely. Your compassion has a healing effect in these difficult times 🙏🙏🙏
I love the video and the way you explain things, the words have a weight to them that regular speech doesnt, at least to me. also shitposting isnt necessarily to aggravate others its generally a type a meme thats funny because its stupid, its like ironic stupidity mostly meant for humor
@ultimatemeaning Hi, I just got done watching part of your interview with the Taoist fellow. You are so knowledgeable and the discussion was very fascinating.
@@franzhaas5597 Hi Franz that is very kind of you to say so, but I am neither learned in the dharma nor in science. My general approach is rather utilitarian- I gain only enough working knowledge to reconcile my understanding of the essential nature with the conventions that others accept. The intention is to help others to come to their own insight in the context of their personal spiritual goals. But I have to admit no matter how logical that might sound it still isn't easy or better than the traditional approaches. But what to do? Awakening isn't an easy matter! Thank you for sharing your insight 🙏🙏🙏
While the environment does have an effect, we don't have to conform to any sort of place or community. Be a monk in a city, stick out, what is wrong with that? Maybe because I have always felt alienated and separated from the larger society, this doesn't seem to be a problem to me. Sometimes we just have to say "fuck it", who cares what others think? So what monks are driving cars? What is purity anyway? What is the West, what is the East? Is it wordly? What is worldly? Be an annomaly! Be an eccentric! Who cares? Isn't this path healthy? Isn't it wholesome? Thats' great! People will always talk shit, the good ones will show up from time to time and then they'll leave as well, and others will come and so on and so on, this is life.
Imagine if like my friend in the monastery you were born in a village high in the Himalayan mountains instead of a busy city in the developed Western world. And like him at a young age you had the opportunity to an rely on a Yogi you lived in a cave up the mountain who was practising the Vajrayana. So instead of being exposed to the many distractions of the modern world you knew only the Dharma. Would this be an advantage on the spiritual path or a detriment, or are both situation equal in this regard? 🙏🙏🙏
Venerable bhikku , you are providing a service for those of us who are ensnared in samsara . I stumbled onto your site and I find it very helpful as a guide in my daily practice. Thank you
This kind of sharings, that are personal but represent archetipical situations, seem positive and subtle influcences delivered on the world. They well could, in their long travel, arrive to the adequate persons. Dear Lama Choga, I'd like to ask you something. In many traditions there's a conscience of the "end of times" and the particular spiritual conditions that it encompases. From this kind of knowledge, we could say that, as all things that exist, the world itself is in a cicle of birth, aging, death and rebirth. And we could say, as well, that our humanity is in his old age. This, of course, has visible and detrimental implications such as an hipertrophy of material development with no wisdom governing it and the oblivion of the eternal truths; nevertheless, couldn't it, as well, have some compensations? A man who is near to his end has great motivation to concentrate. And, in our age, some of the worldly imperfections shine with particular strenght. So, my question is: is there in the Buddha Dharma any conscience of the cosmic cicles similiar to what I have exposed? And, also, do you think that there could be some positive aspects in the current state of the world, at least for some, in order to follow the transcendental path? Thank you very much, Lama, and belive in my best wishes for your journey.
You raised a question near the beginning of your video that I'm quite curious about. That being whether it's possible to pursue the transcendent path in parallel with a worldly path. This reminds me of Gurdjieff's 4th Way and the system he taught. I'd be really interested to hear your input on it. But, assuming you've never heard of it, the 4th way is a teaching which offers a means of self-observation so as to reach transcendence by using ordinary life within society as a sort of teacher. To in a sense, be active in the world but not of it. That's an extremely simplified explanation, but I'd be curious to get your take on it. And if you are familiar with Gurdjieff I'd be even more keen to hear your view. Thank you, and I feel really blessed that this video found it's way into my recommendations. My mother's been practicing Tibetan Buddhism with a Lama for over 10 years now so discovering this channel feels like a particularly appropriate blessing
Hi Zalor and thanks for your contribution to the conversation. I have known many people who are Gurdjieff followers, but I am not very familiar with his methods. We have something very similar to this 4th way in Tibetan Buddhism (and I assume that as Gurdjieff studied Tibetan Buddhism in his early years I assume he was influenced by this). In truth it is a rather high level of practice and there are many references and examples in the scriptures, but for me there is an important point. And that is: Most people who the path and the world in tandem are only practising for mundane results and not transcendent ones. In fact few people can grasp what the trascendant is and how to achieve that. 🙏🙏🙏
The containment of individual reality is one's alone we all live in the same moment in 8 billion different realities and each reality is connected to all other realities outside and within that change in every moment, expanding existence right at home where all always is where ever you think it into being.
Ok interesting, but I tend to agree with Einstein's General theory of Relativity that states there is no synchronous time. to my understanding this also agrees with the Buddhist position that time is not substantially real.
@ultimatemeaning it is only my perception of which I can only speak, narratives and opinions is merely where one is within their pitch of frequency/vibration. All are real-ative in relation to all things which is existent namely we all are related and have relations by the same energy in which all reside in, this physical aparition /resonance. I see from outside into where I reside, an outsider residing to show others within their within that each thinks they are without when all is within and without. The experience of one or the other is only where the other is, a reflection of the present other. I write a lot in comments but it doesn't come from where I be the witness of. It is me and not me for I am the other side of the same coin for we are two in one.
Yes the movement the momentum the vibration the resonant field is what we perceive as time ...a figment of our fragment an illusion. All is motion the constant ocean of one movement that all is present in. There are none that are wrong and none that are right, each reflects the other.
I went from the west to east bit like Paddington bear I was taken in by a Thai family the asked a monk He said it's good to take in a stray dog How much more to take in a stray human. I am the servant for the last 16 years . Emily Dickinson Much madness is divinest sence. Is my favorite poem.
As it was said "the world thinks Milarepa is crazy, Milarepa thinks the world is crazy" and from the Buddha "I do not take issue with the world, the world takes issue with me"
@@ultimatemeaning I've decided to use x Like no other is using x Of course no one See's But I am telling my story of Loss of innocence Return to innocence And I hold the thought as I reveal my story my truth as I understand truth, the thought I hold is this. To be well adjusted to a profoundly sick world is no measure of good health. @josephbrow9672 If a monk told a story of a past life of a Buddha finding an injured rat and kissing it people would say wow ! If an Irish Man told the same story they would say yuk ! Your crazy !! And I'd reply Thank you for the compliment !! 🪷 Anytime I mess up I just say to myself Remember the journey of the lotus 🪷 I seem to mess up a lot But the journey is fun
I’m at the end of the video now and I appreciate your commentary on the use of phones in the monastic setting. I’m more closely aligned with the Thai tradition of Ajahn Chah and I’ve seen this worldly contagion eek its way into the practitioners there. Without the phone, we are blind to the joy of new ideas - or old ideas stated in newer ways. There’s always a compromise in Chah’s teachings between letting go and learning the dharma. I say compromise but Chah would say he only teaches letting go - the dharma is the context. I say this because the phone is the only way I can learn. I can’t find a teacher after years of looking. I’ve reflected on whether it’s my conceit but I’m convinced it’s my remoteness. This device beams the dharma into my life where nothing else can. I wouldn’t have read spiritual biographies or the suttas without it. It’s my hope that the Buddha knew of this tool and saw it as another printing press or spoken language - it’s another medium with the ability to spread joy and woe.
@@jimmusamma1635 Yes and this is why many of the senior monks have iphones because it connects them with their students and also the spiritual community at large. Like you many Khenpos I know use their phones to search for source text, but there is also a downside and this especially affects the younger monks, because they are easily impressed by the sensational. I visited an Ajahn Chan centre recently and I have to say I get a very good vibe from the community 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning you know it seems this life I'm walking around in is stranger then fiction.. Got another poem for you. Emily Dickinson Tell all the truth , but tell it slant.
@@Josephbrownbear Re: truth and fiction- Devadatta accused the Buddha of being a liar and deceiving his followers. Here's a story: The Buddha's attendant was with him all day long. In the morning someone would come and ask "Are there Gods" and the Buddha would answer "yes". In the afternoon someone would come and ask the same question but the Buddha remained silent. In the afternoon again someone asked if there are gods and this time the Buddha responded "no". When pressed on the matter why the Buddha seemed to be contradicting himself he said that all phenomena are empty of true nature and that what was most beneficial to the individual was dependent on their outlook and disposition. 🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning my view is this and of course I live in my own universe...but I think it's worth a ponder.. (wearing my shoes of course) And preferably with Leon Russell playing in the background. Ok Seek refuge in the Buddha. Pause.. In the bible they had six city's of refuge where one could run to bif you killed someone unintentionally No one could touch you while the high priest was alive. Pause.. Buddha said don't call me a god call me a man. Pause.. In the bible they talk of one like the sun of man who would return. Pause.. It also said I will send you a prophet like unto Moses. Moses killed and ran Pause.. Joseph had a dream of his brothers bowing to him , they got angry threw him in the pit and sold him to slavery. Pause.. If Christ returned to a christian country they would kill him if he returned to a country who claimed to be god loving they would kill him as he wouldn't fit the image they create in their minds Pause.. In the Thai cave 11 Buddhist boys and one stateless christian boy Boy to each other as a sign of respect for the other. I suggest it was the dream Joseph had coming to fruitation truth. Pause .. So Buddha Was a prince who could be king Christ was son who could be god. I suggest choose to be good. And will return to a Buddhist country as a son of Buddha A bowing down in simplicity and humanity To show the truth the way the life As I feel in action the Buddhists are more christian then then the christians.i suggest As you do to the least you do to me That stateless christian boy in the cave was given a passport a place to call home. I also suggest that was the opening for the return. Now of course I just may have an overactive imagination But Christ talked of living water water from the heart In Thailand The have Nam jai Water from the heart Random acts of kindness and compassion with no expectations of return. So Christ Comes down as a son then bodhisattva then Buddha he is the city of refuge the Buddha of refuge and also the high priest the way the truth the life. Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. I enjoyed that . In my universe that's the path. Will you watch Finding joe The Buddha is golden !! Scene. 😁🪷🙌💚
So many talk as if they actuality know that there is life after death Without defining what life or death are. Rumi said there is no other place Only here He said you get a body and then there are lessons More lessons Many would stop here and let thier own idea of what "here" is limit what Rumi was actually saying We right now share a frequency amongst infinite frequencies "here" is an infinite realm
I must admit you're pretty talented; speaking about awakening while snoring is a pretty incredible level of ignorance. And that's what happens when you have intellectual knowledge without humility. Humility is the key, and one develops it when he worships THE TRUTH instead of robes, books, wheels, and all other ego vanity bs. Dich the robe Alibaba Buddhist.
@@mandragon8108To give you a general response to your many suggestions: 1) The Buddha taught that once the ordained Sangha were no longer then the Dharma would be finished in the world. And so, although in general it is difficult to be an authentic mendicant and specifically extremely difficult in a culture that doesn't accept monasticism, in the hope that the Buddha Dharma may persist in my own country I persevere with my vows the best I can. 2) In general most monks accept that these days that it is difficult to keep the vows purely, we identify with the robes as the robes of the Buddha, and so we wear them out of reverence for teacher and his teachings. 3) The Buddha taught that it is better to take monastic vows than to never have taken vows. And this is also holds true if you lose your vows, even though in the short term the consequences of this is rebirth in hell. 4) Whether one wears the outer attire of a spiritual practitioner or not isn't the key point. The trouble in the world that we ourselves and others experience only arises out of our own negative emotions like anger, jealousy, and pride and so forth.
@@ultimatemeaning 1. Buddha acts through all beings, not ordained Sangha. Dharma will never be finished and all beings with good karma will have the opportunity to evolve. This is a fact while your point is a fallacy. 2. Most monks are attached to the robe and the lifestyle and don't have a real interest in the truth. God bless the exceptions. 3. Buddha taught about enlightenment or Brahman jnana not vows or monasticism. This is a fact and you have another fallacy. 4. Troubles arise from the mind, and emotions are concomitant to it. That's why the Buddha said to control the mind.
@@mandragon8108 1. this is what the Buddha taught however and the cause for the loss of the dharma will be the loss of the ordained sangha (also as things deteriorate people will see the ordained Sangha to be something negative, called the degeneration of the view) 2. I lived in a monastic setting for 12 years and in terms of my experience this clearly wasn't the case. The Asian Monastics were certainly better (in general) than the Western ones, but this is largely cultural. The young monks are obviously immature and but when compared to lay children from developed nations they are 100% better adjusted and more spiritual individuals. As for the senior monks then most are truly dedicated to the Buddhas teaching (in fact if they were not, then they would never make it to being a senior mink). If they aren't serious then they tend to run off to chase after the American dream and quickly get disillusioned by mundane life. Of course in any community there are bad eggs and a monastery is no different. 3. Well just look at the way practitioners lived at the time when the Buddha was still around, and you will see how important monastic life was in the Buddhas own scheme of things. The Vinaya was composed by no one other than the Buddha and the Buddha also taught that renunciation was the gate of the Dharma. But there are many revisionists who because of their own natural dislike for monastics try to suggest it was otherwise. The real reason why so many people are triggered by the very sight of someone in robes is because they don't like the idea of having to give up on their attachments. 4. And to complete the quote: "Avoid all negativity, apply yourself solely to virtue, and completely tame your mind" all three of these are directly associated with keeping discipline, studying the abhidharma, and practising meditation (the three trainings) and the purpose of establishing the Sangha was none other than to facilitate these trainings.
I feel this magnetization from our modern world very acutely as you describe. As a teenager I saw Iphones become commonplace, and through my young adulthood I have searched for spiritual meaning against subsistence and a "mundane" world as you describe. There are sentiments in people I meet of desires unfulfilled of the spiritual, but we are largely pressed to the present by others.
In the past year I did much to re-orient as much of the spiritual path into my life as I am able, from getting rid of my gaming consoles and computers, to finally getting a simple flip phone (I have now grown to love! ) and will continue to move this way. Thank you for these videos for helping expose me to this knowledge
Dear Lama, If you gave up your robes I would not blame you or respect you any less. The teachings you give are so valuable to me. I'm lucky to have the karma to meet with them.
Hi Middy your words comfort me greatly. This path is in no way easy and in many ways very lonely. Your compassion has a healing effect in these difficult times 🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful video.
We are all in this together.
Best wishes for your fast liberation.
Hi VV, thank you for your kind wishes! 🙏🙏🙏
I love the video and the way you explain things, the words have a weight to them that regular speech doesnt, at least to me.
also shitposting isnt necessarily to aggravate others its generally a type a meme thats funny because its stupid, its like ironic stupidity mostly meant for humor
People.
Including myself.Tend to forget about how our environment affects us. I appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
Thank you for sharing that Franz! 🙏🙏🙏
@ultimatemeaning Hi, I just got done watching part of your interview with the Taoist fellow. You are so knowledgeable and the discussion was very fascinating.
@@franzhaas5597 Hi Franz that is very kind of you to say so, but I am neither learned in the dharma nor in science. My general approach is rather utilitarian- I gain only enough working knowledge to reconcile my understanding of the essential nature with the conventions that others accept.
The intention is to help others to come to their own insight in the context of their personal spiritual goals. But I have to admit no matter how logical that might sound it still isn't easy or better than the traditional approaches.
But what to do? Awakening isn't an easy matter!
Thank you for sharing your insight
🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning You're welcome.
@@franzhaas5597 👌
While the environment does have an effect, we don't have to conform to any sort of place or community. Be a monk in a city, stick out, what is wrong with that? Maybe because I have always felt alienated and separated from the larger society, this doesn't seem to be a problem to me. Sometimes we just have to say "fuck it", who cares what others think? So what monks are driving cars? What is purity anyway? What is the West, what is the East? Is it wordly? What is worldly? Be an annomaly! Be an eccentric! Who cares? Isn't this path healthy? Isn't it wholesome? Thats' great! People will always talk shit, the good ones will show up from time to time and then they'll leave as well, and others will come and so on and so on, this is life.
Imagine if like my friend in the monastery you were born in a village high in the Himalayan mountains instead of a busy city in the developed Western world. And like him at a young age you had the opportunity to an rely on a Yogi you lived in a cave up the mountain who was practising the Vajrayana. So instead of being exposed to the many distractions of the modern world you knew only the Dharma. Would this be an advantage on the spiritual path or a detriment, or are both situation equal in this regard?
🙏🙏🙏
Venerable bhikku , you are providing a service for those of us who are ensnared in samsara . I stumbled onto your site and I find it very helpful as a guide in my daily practice. Thank you
Hi John it is very gratifying to hear that. If I can be of the slightest help on the path it makes this all worth while.♥♥♥
Venerable ~🎉
🙏🙏🙏
Stay strong
🦾🦾🦾
🙏🙏🙏
This kind of sharings, that are personal but represent archetipical situations, seem positive and subtle influcences delivered on the world. They well could, in their long travel, arrive to the adequate persons.
Dear Lama Choga, I'd like to ask you something. In many traditions there's a conscience of the "end of times" and the particular spiritual conditions that it encompases. From this kind of knowledge, we could say that, as all things that exist, the world itself is in a cicle of birth, aging, death and rebirth. And we could say, as well, that our humanity is in his old age. This, of course, has visible and detrimental implications such as an hipertrophy of material development with no wisdom governing it and the oblivion of the eternal truths; nevertheless, couldn't it, as well, have some compensations? A man who is near to his end has great motivation to concentrate. And, in our age, some of the worldly imperfections shine with particular strenght. So, my question is: is there in the Buddha Dharma any conscience of the cosmic cicles similiar to what I have exposed? And, also, do you think that there could be some positive aspects in the current state of the world, at least for some, in order to follow the transcendental path?
Thank you very much, Lama, and belive in my best wishes for your journey.
🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️🙇🏻♂️
Thank you 🙏
@@TheLonelyFoot The spaceman says, "Everybody look down
It's all in your mind" ♥♥♥
Namaskar from Pokhara, Nepal!
How wonderful, I really wanted to visit Pokhara (we have a small temple there) but never got the opportunity!
You raised a question near the beginning of your video that I'm quite curious about. That being whether it's possible to pursue the transcendent path in parallel with a worldly path. This reminds me of Gurdjieff's 4th Way and the system he taught. I'd be really interested to hear your input on it.
But, assuming you've never heard of it, the 4th way is a teaching which offers a means of self-observation so as to reach transcendence by using ordinary life within society as a sort of teacher. To in a sense, be active in the world but not of it. That's an extremely simplified explanation, but I'd be curious to get your take on it. And if you are familiar with Gurdjieff I'd be even more keen to hear your view.
Thank you, and I feel really blessed that this video found it's way into my recommendations. My mother's been practicing Tibetan Buddhism with a Lama for over 10 years now so discovering this channel feels like a particularly appropriate blessing
Hi Zalor and thanks for your contribution to the conversation. I have known many people who are Gurdjieff followers, but I am not very familiar with his methods. We have something very similar to this 4th way in Tibetan Buddhism (and I assume that as Gurdjieff studied Tibetan Buddhism in his early years I assume he was influenced by this).
In truth it is a rather high level of practice and there are many references and examples in the scriptures, but for me there is an important point. And that is: Most people who the path and the world in tandem are only practising for mundane results and not transcendent ones. In fact few people can grasp what the trascendant is and how to achieve that.
🙏🙏🙏
The containment of individual reality is one's alone we all live in the same moment in 8 billion different realities and each reality is connected to all other realities outside and within that change in every moment, expanding existence right at home where all always is where ever you think it into being.
Ok interesting, but I tend to agree with Einstein's General theory of Relativity that states there is no synchronous time. to my understanding this also agrees with the Buddhist position that time is not substantially real.
@ultimatemeaning it is only my perception of which I can only speak, narratives and opinions is merely where one is within their pitch of frequency/vibration. All are real-ative in relation to all things which is existent namely we all are related and have relations by the same energy in which all reside in, this physical aparition /resonance. I see from outside into where I reside, an outsider residing to show others within their within that each thinks they are without when all is within and without. The experience of one or the other is only where the other is, a reflection of the present other. I write a lot in comments but it doesn't come from where I be the witness of. It is me and not me for I am the other side of the same coin for we are two in one.
Yes the movement the momentum the vibration the resonant field is what we perceive as time ...a figment of our fragment an illusion. All is motion the constant ocean of one movement that all is present in. There are none that are wrong and none that are right, each reflects the other.
@@paulbendall1238 Thanks for sharing your thoughts Paul ♥♥♥
@@paulbendall1238 And so what is a resonance field, is that like a scalar field?
I went from the west to east bit like Paddington bear I was taken in by a Thai family the asked a monk
He said it's good to take in a stray dog
How much more to take in a stray human.
I am the servant for the last 16 years .
Emily Dickinson
Much madness is divinest sence.
Is my favorite poem.
As it was said "the world thinks Milarepa is crazy, Milarepa thinks the world is crazy" and from the Buddha "I do not take issue with the world, the world takes issue with me"
@@ultimatemeaning that has as a hungry man says after a meal , has touched the spot !
@@Josephbrownbear but really the hungry man before the meal deserves all the credit!
@@ultimatemeaning I've decided to use x
Like no other is using x
Of course no one See's
But I am telling my story of
Loss of innocence
Return to innocence
And I hold the thought as I reveal my story my truth as I understand truth, the thought I hold is this.
To be well adjusted to a profoundly sick world is no measure of good health.
@josephbrow9672
If a monk told a story of a past life of a Buddha finding an injured rat and kissing it people would say wow !
If an Irish Man told the same story they would say yuk !
Your crazy !!
And I'd reply
Thank you for the compliment !!
🪷
Anytime I mess up I just say to myself
Remember the journey of the lotus 🪷
I seem to mess up a lot
But the journey is fun
I knew you were going to say, "Hara Krishna". 😅
😆🤣😆 Like Minds! 🤣😆🤣
Reusi it's a Thai hermit.
But I live with a family in a village and they let me be.
And I am on the journey of the lotus
The journey of the lotus is the nature of mind itself 🙏🙏🙏
I love your shoes but then I also love Hare Krishnas.
I’m at the end of the video now and I appreciate your commentary on the use of phones in the monastic setting. I’m more closely aligned with the Thai tradition of Ajahn Chah and I’ve seen this worldly contagion eek its way into the practitioners there. Without the phone, we are blind to the joy of new ideas - or old ideas stated in newer ways. There’s always a compromise in Chah’s teachings between letting go and learning the dharma. I say compromise but Chah would say he only teaches letting go - the dharma is the context.
I say this because the phone is the only way I can learn. I can’t find a teacher after years of looking. I’ve reflected on whether it’s my conceit but I’m convinced it’s my remoteness. This device beams the dharma into my life where nothing else can. I wouldn’t have read spiritual biographies or the suttas without it. It’s my hope that the Buddha knew of this tool and saw it as another printing press or spoken language - it’s another medium with the ability to spread joy and woe.
😆🤣😆 Walmart special 57$ CDN. And I really like Hare Krishnas, especially Hare Krishna food! 😆🤣😆
@@jimmusamma1635 Yes and this is why many of the senior monks have iphones because it connects them with their students and also the spiritual community at large. Like you many Khenpos I know use their phones to search for source text, but there is also a downside and this especially affects the younger monks, because they are easily impressed by the sensational.
I visited an Ajahn Chan centre recently and I have to say I get a very good vibe from the community
🙏🙏🙏
Lay af over here
AYE AYE LADDIE! 😃
@@ultimatemeaning sir. 🙏
My hands have blood as milarepa had... truth seems to be stranger then fiction
one translation of SamVritti ཀུན་རྫོབ་ "complete fiction"! 😆🤣😆
@@ultimatemeaning you know it seems this life I'm walking around in is stranger then fiction..
Got another poem for you.
Emily Dickinson
Tell all the truth , but tell it slant.
@@Josephbrownbear
Re: truth and fiction- Devadatta accused the Buddha of being a liar and deceiving his followers. Here's a story: The Buddha's attendant was with him all day long. In the morning someone would come and ask "Are there Gods" and the Buddha would answer "yes". In the afternoon someone would come and ask the same question but the Buddha remained silent. In the afternoon again someone asked if there are gods and this time the Buddha responded "no".
When pressed on the matter why the Buddha seemed to be contradicting himself he said that all phenomena are empty of true nature and that what was most beneficial to the individual was dependent on their outlook and disposition.
🙏🙏🙏
@@ultimatemeaning my view is this and of course I live in my own universe...but I think it's worth a ponder..
(wearing my shoes of course)
And preferably with Leon Russell playing in the background.
Ok
Seek refuge in the Buddha.
Pause..
In the bible they had six city's of refuge where one could run to bif you killed someone unintentionally
No one could touch you while the high priest was alive.
Pause..
Buddha said don't call me a god call me a man.
Pause..
In the bible they talk of one like the sun of man who would return.
Pause..
It also said I will send you a prophet like unto Moses.
Moses killed and ran
Pause..
Joseph had a dream of his brothers bowing to him , they got angry threw him in the pit and sold him to slavery.
Pause..
If Christ returned to a christian country they would kill him if he returned to a country who claimed to be god loving they would kill him as he wouldn't fit the image they create in their minds
Pause..
In the Thai cave
11 Buddhist boys and one stateless christian boy
Boy to each other as a sign of respect for the other.
I suggest it was the dream Joseph had coming to fruitation truth.
Pause ..
So Buddha
Was a prince who could be king
Christ was son who could be god.
I suggest choose to be good.
And will return to a Buddhist country as a son of Buddha
A bowing down in simplicity and humanity
To show the truth the way the life
As I feel in action the Buddhists are more christian then then the christians.i suggest
As you do to the least you do to me
That stateless christian boy in the cave was given a passport a place to call home.
I also suggest that was the opening for the return.
Now of course I just may have an overactive imagination
But Christ talked of living water water from the heart
In Thailand
The have
Nam jai
Water from the heart
Random acts of kindness and compassion with no expectations of return.
So Christ Comes down as a son then bodhisattva then Buddha he is the city of refuge the Buddha of refuge and also the high priest the way the truth the life.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
I enjoyed that .
In my universe that's the path.
Will you watch
Finding joe
The Buddha is golden !!
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@@ultimatemeaning stranger in a strange land is the Leon Russell song to play. 😆
I am also looked on as a strange one.
But they call me resuie
Thank you for sharing the poetry♥♥♥
So many talk as if they actuality know that there is life after death
Without defining what life or death are.
Rumi said there is no other place
Only here
He said you get a body and then there are lessons
More lessons
Many would stop here and let thier own idea of what "here" is limit what Rumi was actually saying
We right now share a frequency amongst infinite frequencies
"here" is an infinite realm
The way my teacher puts it "for the deceased there is no death"
I must admit you're pretty talented; speaking about awakening while snoring is a pretty incredible level of ignorance.
And that's what happens when you have intellectual knowledge without humility. Humility is the key, and one develops it when he worships THE TRUTH instead of robes, books, wheels, and all other ego vanity bs.
Dich the robe Alibaba Buddhist.
Please be my guest vent your spleen at my expense I don't mind being your punching bag 😆🤣😆
@@ultimatemeaning Why do you see yourself as a bag? Is that the truth or just another projected fallacy?
@@mandragon8108To give you a general response to your many suggestions:
1) The Buddha taught that once the ordained Sangha were no longer then the Dharma would be finished in the world. And so, although in general it is difficult to be an authentic mendicant and specifically extremely difficult in a culture that doesn't accept monasticism, in the hope that the Buddha Dharma may persist in my own country I persevere with my vows the best I can.
2) In general most monks accept that these days that it is difficult to keep the vows purely, we identify with the robes as the robes of the Buddha, and so we wear them out of reverence for teacher and his teachings.
3) The Buddha taught that it is better to take monastic vows than to never have taken vows. And this is also holds true if you lose your vows, even though in the short term the consequences of this is rebirth in hell.
4) Whether one wears the outer attire of a spiritual practitioner or not isn't the key point. The trouble in the world that we ourselves and others experience only arises out of our own negative emotions like anger, jealousy, and pride and so forth.
@@ultimatemeaning
1. Buddha acts through all beings, not ordained Sangha. Dharma will never be finished and all beings with good karma will have the opportunity to evolve. This is a fact while your point is a fallacy.
2. Most monks are attached to the robe and the lifestyle and don't have a real interest in the truth. God bless the exceptions.
3. Buddha taught about enlightenment or Brahman jnana not vows or monasticism. This is a fact and you have another fallacy.
4. Troubles arise from the mind, and emotions are concomitant to it. That's why the Buddha said to control the mind.
@@mandragon8108
1. this is what the Buddha taught however and the cause for the loss of the dharma will be the loss of the ordained sangha (also as things deteriorate people will see the ordained Sangha to be something negative, called the degeneration of the view)
2. I lived in a monastic setting for 12 years and in terms of my experience this clearly wasn't the case. The Asian Monastics were certainly better (in general) than the Western ones, but this is largely cultural. The young monks are obviously immature and but when compared to lay children from developed nations they are 100% better adjusted and more spiritual individuals. As for the senior monks then most are truly dedicated to the Buddhas teaching (in fact if they were not, then they would never make it to being a senior mink). If they aren't serious then they tend to run off to chase after the American dream and quickly get disillusioned by mundane life. Of course in any community there are bad eggs and a monastery is no different.
3. Well just look at the way practitioners lived at the time when the Buddha was still around, and you will see how important monastic life was in the Buddhas own scheme of things. The Vinaya was composed by no one other than the Buddha and the Buddha also taught that renunciation was the gate of the Dharma. But there are many revisionists who because of their own natural dislike for monastics try to suggest it was otherwise. The real reason why so many people are triggered by the very sight of someone in robes is because they don't like the idea of having to give up on their attachments.
4. And to complete the quote: "Avoid all negativity, apply yourself solely to virtue, and completely tame your mind" all three of these are directly associated with keeping discipline, studying the abhidharma, and practising meditation (the three trainings) and the purpose of establishing the Sangha was none other than to facilitate these trainings.