TeraFlex Install: Full Float/Locking Hub Conversion Kit
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2016
- The TeraFlex JK front locking hub conversion kit is designed to upgrade JK Dana 30 and 44 axles, while the rear full float conversion kit will add some serious strength to your JK Dana 44.
SlimLock hubs feature 4340 chromoloy 35 spline stub shafts, and Dana 60 components throughout.
The rear conversion kit utilizes a two bearing design to evenly spread the load, allowing the 4140 chromoly shafts to simply transfer the torque.
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This brought back memories of my old 1978 full time 4x4 Chevy Silverado. After hunting trips where I ended up crossing river crossing I would take the front hubs off and repack the bearings. The technology here is not new, I would go through the same steps here. Remember that was in 1978.
I dont even have a jeep and this video makes me want these. This is such a well done install video.
Very professionally done and with excellent, informative narration. One of the best presentations I've see on YT in a very long time.
not 100% professional. all this new gear including new rotors yet he put old pads on those new rotors... if your spending that much on this but are too cheap to put new pads in the end... thats not professional. if i did this for a customer they would be back real quick.
Another amazing product by Teraflex and an amazing narration by Dennis Wood. Edutainment and funny.
Edutainment...hahah thanks
Dennis
I would love to see something for the Jeep Liberty. There is such a small amount of lift support and a true rear four link conversion would be amazing to see.
Excellent video. It makes me wish I had a Jeep again.
Because of these kinds of videos I see no reason to buy another brand for my jeep upgrades. Good work.
With excellent how-to like this I will buy more parts!
Looks like another great product and very easy to install! I wish they had a 5 lug hub version I would rather not have to get a new set of wheels but it’s a good excuse to try some internal beadlock hummer wheels!
I use the vice and a socket to press the caps back in, instead of a hammer. Nice and easy, and make sure it goes on smooth.
Great video! Helped a lot with the install.
Awesome video as always!!! Well done, very interesting and informative video!!! I would love to do this conversation to my 2011 JKU 4 Dr with the 3.8 engine
Best install videos out there...nicely done teraflex!
That is a nice looking kit. I like it.
I love the way the guy/mechanic?/butcher wailed on the new uni joints with a hammer when he could have/ should have used the vice to press them in, I've seen guys crack the cups using a hammer to get them in
Does this upgrade change the axle's wheel mounting surface distance? (I see bellow it stays the same.)
Any suggestion on the new 8 lug pattern matching the TeraFlex HD Carrier lugs?
Will this work with TeraFlex's JK High Steer Sys. & Drag Link Flip kits?
JK Flat towing... requires front hubs locked or unlocked?
I was told a front drive shaft is required to flat tow to keep things lubed in the T-case. This true... Y/N?
Its funny how my 1979 Toyota FJ40 came with all that as stock factory equipped! .. along with massive 9.5 in. differentials.
Not a troll, serious question... I have been looking for details on a front axel that has a full float setup and surprise of surprises, I am not finding a lot about them. Your video is the one I found, so thanks for sharing...
BadPenny Locker uh...dynatrac PR60
ALL solid axle fronts are full-float. This just details the install of locking hubs, to get away from the unit-bearing/full-time engagement setup
Toyota LandCruiser 70 series need some of this kind of love! Front CVs are a particular weakness.
This was a well put together video and excellent job on narration. I was thinking the same thing about the brake pads when I saw the old ones go back on. I too wondered about the convertion to the 8 lug wheels. I guess depending on the utilisation of your jeep the justification for more strength can be made. I really don't see that the wheel lugs as a common fail point for most. I would be interested in the conversion to locking hubs and bigger brakes. Anyway like I said though this was a very well put together how to video. One of the best I have seen.
Thanks, we have reprimanded Dennis for not using new pads. It will not happen again 😂.
TeraFlexSuspensions I didn’t know if the reprimand was necessary after all it’s a 4x4. In my earlier days when I was more of a hard core wheeler I used to do a lot of sandy water crossings. If I had replaced my brakes every time I took things apart to clean all the sand and dirt out of my brakes I would have spent a fortune. That was the whole reason for taking things apart was to get more life out of the brakes. Learned that lesson the hard way. Lol
@@ntaft0904 Haha, he's use to it. We hear that, always love a good wash down.
Ok TeraFlex, stop making me add more stuff to my ever growing "to get" list...
I am not a mechanic so please be patient if this is a silly question.. With a full float axle and the jeep in 4 x4 with the axles UNLOCKED does this mean they will spin independently of the transfer case even if engaged.
Gotta love the dry humor of a narrator who understands the shit
8 lug Dana30. Never thought I’d see the day
Super mall crawler
Dennis and Teraflex I just installed the full floater kit and followed your directions exactly and backed up the spindle nut as per instructions. The wheels spins freely however my first drive in a hot day the front hubs were really hot. Is that normal will the bearings will settle down or should I do something
My be a silly question but do you offer this kit for an 89 YJ?
I used to do that that's old-fashioned way for floating hub just have a bottle of high-quality gear lube and filled the hubs and then slide the last bearing in i turn the hubs and no need for packing the bearings make sure you get your preload on the bearings right over tight not good and loose not good
The fuel savings better be crazy at that price!
Hello, Do you make a kit for the TJ Wrangler as well ?
Are you going g to make one for the jl? This would be a better option over the cad it comes with stock. And RCv axles
Do you have it for your tera60 that had 5 on 5
What wheel offset did y’all use for the locking hubs?
did I miss something? why drill a hole into the axle then weld it closed?
I have a TJ on Dana 60's with 15x10 inch 8 on 6.5 3 inch BS and I ground the calipers just a bit to fit. Can I run a small back space 15 inch steel wheel with this upgrade? If so, I am going to do it. I like 15 inch wheels and 38 inch iroks. More tire more flex.
Ok, great product and all, but why the hell would you put used brake pads on a brand new rotor? 23:20
I think the guy said this one already had the big rotors on it, so it isn't a new rotor.
@@drumhed Yes he did, but then they go on to install new big rotors that came in the kit.
@@drumhed Went from 5 lug to 8 lug. They better be new rotors. lol
Saving money.
It's a Jeep thing, so...
Great way to bring back that annoying squeak he just said you'd be glad you got rid of.
So how does this compare to a full one ton swap?
Do you have 8lugs carrier for the spare wheel/tire ? Thx
i love the humor in this video.
Really nice video
I know I’m going to regret asking.....why would I do this? I have a set of 44’s with automatic hubs. Works well. This is a lot of work, money, and limits your rim choice just to have to get out to lock your hubs. What’s the advantage?
RED thread lock on brake bracket?! good luck with that
Great video!!..
Used brake pads?
Free in the front ok for gas mileage but when do u unlok the back? how does it work for the back when to use it ?
Need this for my tj rubicon.
Your bang on right, all Jeep owners (or 4x4 ers) should be able to take their own wheels off their vehicle, if not, maybe they shouldn't own one.
Just saying.
Great vid by the way, well done on all aspects.
Ciao
I say the same thing when jeep owners complain of "death wobble"
"Like yo, if you gotta take it into a shop to diagnose and tighten a loose track bar...jeeps probably aren't for you."
Nice!! Entertaining narration... :-)
Will this work on a TJ ?
@1:97 How he hung up that caliper gave me heart palpations...
what about a 1994 ram 2500 its already 8 lug but full time also a 2009 ram 2500
Has anyone noticed bet mpgs with this kit?
Dont you think 135 F/Lb is a little exsecive for a 9/16 nut. It should be about 80 F/Lb
Very nice well spoken
Very nicely done. ..... Sorry, but I am new comer to all of this. What or why do I want to do this for? What do I gain by doing this? Thanks in advance. ;-)
These are amazing! Wish i could afford them. :'(
Aisin and most hub manufacturers still use that snap ring to hold the shaft in place. They suck. Keep extras. They pop loose you are 4x2
Muy buen vídeo, qué pena no saber inglés
35spline outer, what good is that if the inner is smaller?
Good for marketing 😁😁
What happens when I need to replace the bearings? This looks like a pain in the butt.
Will this kit fit the Dynatrac PR60 semi float rear axle? It seems like as long as the spindle has the correct OD dimensions it’s be gtg. I really need to know lest I perish!
Yup, as long as the spline counts match and the tubing diameters match. The Spindle has a Outer diameter of ~2.64 for a slip fit. Double check with Dynatrac for tube ID.
How much strength does this kit add to the front vs say RCVs and is there any way to get the front kit with RCV outers? No longer have stock shafts.
There are 2 forces on the axle shafts and carrier with a semi float, a load from the weight of the vehicle, and load from rotational force. By supporting the shaft with 2 bearings on a spindle, you are eliminating the forces from the weight of the vehicle. Now the only force on the shaft and carrier is rotational force. Huge increase.
Am I missing something? Why are you drilling holes in the rear axle, only to weld them back up?
it secures the press fit piece that is installed inside the axle
Narrarator is 🔥
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Why you keep trying me while I’m watching this video 🤣🤣🤣
Will a 35 spline RCV axles work with this?
Polyperformance has a kit for RCVs
Does this change the track width at all? Asking after the JK Rubicon rear application.
No, it will stay the same.
Full floating axles should be a standard on Jeeps and mid sized trucks, most heavy duty Trucks have them. Why not smaller trucks and Jeeps?
Good question! Probably helps to keep the cost down.
Makes money for aftermarket companies. 😁
Can you get this setup with manual locking hubs for the rear also?
Unfortunately we don't offer a manual locking setup for the rear.
Is it absolutely necessary to do the plug weld for the rear?
Yes. Imagine a fun weekend of dune running or muddin, and on the way home your axle end starts to walk out. By the time you notice it the bearing hole in the tube is wallowed out and your next paycheck is blown.
Secure the spindle into the axle tube!
Will the 35 spline RCV axles work with this?
Yes with a price tag of about 1599. They have to be custom made, lead time is 4-6 weeks. Guess how I know....
I'm just sitting here wondering if you guys make something like this for my 1967 jeep gladiator's full floating front Dana 44 and semi floating rear Dana 44 lol
Sorry Craig we do not.
Not greaseble ujoints? What the cost of all that shiny iron
White grease in the locking hubs in cold country would be recommended
Greasable u joints are a little weaker, that’s why these kits usually come with normal joints.
does anyone know if this will work on a 88 commence with a dana 30 wj knuckles and disc brake dana 35
Give our team a call, 801-713-3314.
Would these work on JL Dana 44 or any plans to make one that does?
No, this JK setup will not work on a JL currently.
I'm not very informed on axles talk, but what advantage does having locking hubs serve?
Great question... 1. Wheel bearing load is spread out = no more unit bearing failures. 2. Increased fuel mileage. We are no longer turning axles, gears, and drive shafts. 3. Which brings me to the joys of no longer having to worry about front driveline failure at freeway speeds.
What made you all go 8 on 6.5" bolt pattern instead of sticking with JK 5 on 5" or 5 on 5.5" like the other kit available on the market?
That, little buddy, is a Great question.
When we were looking a doing the conversion, it was necessary to go from a 5 0n 5 bolt pattern to a 5 on 5.5 pattern. No way around it, you were going to need to buy new wheels. If you are buying wheels anyway why not buy 8 on 6.5 and gain all the strength advantages. The 8 lug also allowed us to use off the shelf 1 ton wheel bearings etc. Much stronger alternative.. Dennis
What was the purpose of drilling the housing? I don’t get that and it didn’t go into detail about it!
This is to create a hole for a plug weld to hold the spindle in the housing better once pressed in.
It may just be me and my opinion but you weren't very generous with the grease on the front. I would've at least put a big glob in the dead space between the two races but that's just me.
do you have a kit to fit a 95 Jeep Cherokee with a Dana 35 rear end and Dana 30 front
Sorry we do not offer that option.
neva mind better off getting a set of one ton axles and fitting it in a Cherokee.
I am going to get beat up for asking this, but I don't see this upgrade offered for the DANA 30 low pinion front steer axle on the website unless I looked right past it?... I only off-road occasionally, and drive on street 99% of the time, and when I do off-road events, I am lite on the gas peddle, as I don't care to break anything if it can move helped... does this front kit come for the DANA 30 low pinion, example, 1993 Jeep grand Cherokee?
Unfortunately these kits are only designed for the JK 30's/44's.
@@teraflexsuspensions Yah, I understand, I get laughed at for the amount of money and time I have put into my L.P. 30, even with this series having a long history of breakage, I lean to the drivers heavy foot, and not knowing when to quit and simply winch... Yes, it is still risky no matter what ,and also, old, and as I understand it to be, nobody is installing the L.P. 30's on anything to even make it worth your efforts to even research this... I understand, I stil like using the products I do have or have run in the past on other rigs.. Do you have any front lock-out kits for L.P.30's? or something I can piece together? Fuel Economy!!! LOL Thank you, Dru
@@drubradley8821 Unfortunately we don't make anything like that either. Sounds like a custom build for sure. Good luck with your creation.
Is that anti-seize being used on the rear brake components?
No it's high temp synthetic brake grease. You would be surprised how much that grease helps with annoying brake squeaks/rattles
Dennis
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Dennis and Teraflex I am in the middle of ordering the full float kit can u please advise the wheel specs would 17x7.5 wheel would fit and what backspacing and offset would you recommend to run 35” tires with 3.5” lift thanks
We recommend the total backspacing be 4.5" or less. So a backspacing of 4.5" and 0 offset of a negative offset.
Currently I am running 5.75 back spacing with +18mm offset using Teraflex big brake kit on stock axles with 35” tires and 3.5” lift and it clears perfectly and I am ordering Tera 44/60 with full float with stock width axles you think 5.75 back spacing will work with +18 mm offset exactly same what I am using ? I am afraid 4.5 backspacing will make tired stick out of fender flares ?
5.75 backspacing plus another ~.70 inches is the wrong direction. You will end up around 6.45". You need to be less than 4.5" to properly clear your steering components/frame, and recenter your Center of Gravity. Unfortunately that combo will not work.
I like it. I need it. How much $$$!
How does this affect the E locker on the Unlimited Rubicon
why would it affect a locker? the shafts are still acting the same as they did before. the only difference now is that the weight of the jeep is no longer on the axle shaft directly, instead it is on that new spindle that was welded in the rear, while the rotational force is still on the shafts.
Branden Ludski fake news
No new brake pads for joe
Make it for the JL!
What's the purpose of the plug welds? My inner bro tells me to skip, but the technical side says no.
Kumar Rangerboy Keeps the spindle from rotating and loosening up the locknut, as well as coming out of the tube.
Listen to your inner bro. Dont forget to record your first drive after
THANK YOU FOR DETAIL VIDEO AS GOOD WATCHING
Is there a 35 spline rear shaft option?
That's what I wanted to know!! I checked with engineering explaining that I had needs ( they didn't seem impressed); I want to run 35 spline shafts in my new SEMA build. They are going to try to make it happen, its just a matter of cutting down some shafts. Right now we only have them for 70 wide axles... Will advise Dennis
+TeraFlexSuspensions thanks brother, I be Rollin an 80, but every built 44 I do has 35 spline shafts
Do you sell the kits directly or do I have to go through a vendor?? Thank you.
Great question! You can purchase our parts direct through us over the phone or off our website; or through any of our dealers or vendors.
Guau perfecto
I'd love to have free wheeling hubs on my JK, but why did they choose to change up the 6 lug set-up? This means that unless you do the rear as well, you will be running two different lug-bolt/pattern wheels and can't rotate your tires. Furthermore, you are going to have to buy at least two new wheels even if you only do the front. This doesn't make sense.
Unfortunately you can't fit a wheel hub this diameter into a stock 5X5 bolt pattern on a JK, there just isn't room. You have to go to a wider 8x6.5 to fit all components. Any yes, usually one would either buy both front and rear conversions. If swapping an axle to a 60, that comes stock with 8x6.5, some choose to add a conversion kit to their other axle instead of swapping both at the same time. Tons of options out there.
If it's all the same to you sir, running big tires like that I'd Lincoln lock the front diff 100%
if I didn't do this mod.
Fad delete and hub conversion for JL and JT would be great.
We agree, which is why we have a kit in the works.
@@teraflexsuspensions I’ll be keeping my eyes open
any chance of a 35 spline rear kit for those of us with arb 35 spline diffs?
Yes, that's what I'm going to use on my current Jeep build
Dennis
this is compatible with RCV axels ????'
RCV makes a specific kit for use with the front full float kit. The rears have new Chromoly Shafts included.
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Umm... this is an old video...? Then why is the thumbnail picture a Jeep JL? Or am I seeing things?
if I have a Dana 30 front & Dana 44 rear - how will I know what I need?
full floating axle conversion for suzuki samurai?
Unfortunately not.