@@TheCollectiveIntellectual we got this tent ⛺ in Idaho falls, Idaho at a army surplus store. I bet if you Google it they will come up. It was $1575.00 four years ago. Definitely build the platform.
@essentialmountainhomestead what is the name of this tent? we have the same one but no frame. We are trying to find a frame for it. The writing is hard to read on ours.
It was fun to see your video. Wife and I are going into our fourth winter here in the Ozarks. We purchased a 18X32 command tent. Last winter we had -8 degrees, so far no real heavy snow, but when it dose come down its easy from the inside to keep the roof clear. Good luck and enjoy your tent. BTW Ann and I are in our 80's and it works for us it should be a walk in the park for a young lad such as yourself. Rick & Ann
When I was in Afghanistan they covered some of the tents in 3 inches of spray foam on the out side it was very strong in the snow. It's a option. plus they framed a door. A outer door and mud room space with inner door.
2X4's would be your best bet for taking up some of that slack on the roof if you're worried about it. Don't use 550 cord because it'll stretch and won't be that great. That's probably one of the easiest tents the Army has to set up. If you didn't build the platform one person who knew what they were doing could set it up from start to finish in an hour. Rember to sew the seams on the roof before you stand it up then sew the side seams after that.
10th Mountain use them up at Fort Drum with no problems. We used them in Saudi and they withstood all the major sand storms. Put so many up I see them in my sleep lolololol
No liner? We had a liner in ours during Desert Storm ... the temperature went down below freezing, but with a kerosene heater, the liner and ventilation about a dozen of us sleep quite comfortably. No humidity issues with the liner ... the only problem was my bunk was near the front entrance so I got dusted whenever someone took too much time coming in or going out during a dust storm. It also rained on us a lot (weird for Saudi Arabia, I know :P ) but we dug a ditch around the perimeter and used wooden pallets and purloined wall to wall carpeting keep us up off the ground.
Just a suggestion, run some 2" ratchet straps or even just some good 2" webbing from one side to the other across the top of the ridge pole. place sheets of 1" or 2" insulating foam above straps and then tighten the straps. Gain insulation, increase snow bearing ability and reduce any noise from canvas flapping in the wind.
Great video. Really enjoyed this as I am very interested in RV and off grid living and this tent would make an amazing alternative home at minimal cost. The platform is a great idea
That tent is really durable as we had them when i was in the service. This unit also has a liner for the inside that is an insilator for cold weather. Although i still prefer the older military tents such as the GP Large, GP Medium, or the GP Small. These tents also come with a liner to insulate them.
they hold up really well, even with ice here around bragg in the south.Another option we did with them in the old days, was put 2x4 walls in them.It gives options for shelves and more support for your extra snow or ice rafters.Put 2x2s on a slant matching the tent wall every four, or two feet attached to the 2x4 wall.it makes the wall more stable, and more places to attach the tent too. One of the side affects is it quiets down the flapping of the canvass. All that for a few hundred bucks more and can be done anytime after it is put up.For hot summers you can put the cheap sheet insulation on the tent side of the interior wall to stop radiant heat.One of the side affects? again even quieter, and helps in the winter. Don't forget to frame around your windows and save the insulation squares to cover them up later if you need it.And its still cheaper than a yurt.
Good video, thanks. No criticism intended when I observe that a vapor barrier under the ply wouldn't have been expensive or time consuming. Nice to have the army of guys available to help you out.
forget everything I said before, this is not a frame tent like I knew, wow, what a great tent, built in windows with screens...anyhow it was dark in last video and I thought it was a standard frame tent...been retired too long...
i would get some 2x4 timbers with hangers on each end and brace the ceiling every 2 foot to hold the snow then put an insulated layer and lock it in with 2x1 . safe and toasty . love the tent its a great space . apply these kind of measures and leave it up . it will hold its own .
Bamboo grid for the inner roof support, tools needed a saw, rasp or a corse file, angle grinder with sanding disc's, & paracord or zip ties and something to cover the ends of the bamboo to prevent the bamboo from puncturing the tent maby plumbing pvc caps
I would use the triple wall piping stainless like 4 inch and yes I'm sure it will be hot in there but I'm sure you will like it come winter if your using the tent during the winter and you do have a great idea to brace it on the ceiling so the snow don't push down on the tent but if you have the fire going it should melt just as fast as it comes down if you have a fire going
The little stove is perfect, just build a smaller fire. When I was in Hohenfel Germany out in the field, or as they call it "The Box" it hit -60 with wind chill and we were able to keep the tent at 45 degrees and stayed pretty comfortable.
Thumbs up for video enjoyed, be interesting to see what you decide in leaving up or takeing down for winter.To cope with 7ft snow will take some thought as I can't see the tent surviving 7ft of snow on top of it. Cheers.
ive thought about the same thing (my wife is not so keen), but thought about putting it in a polytunnel for a more protected climate under the poly tent/ hoop house....... that way wind and rain/snow is not so much of an issue - could also put a veggie garden under there
If you reinforce that roof with aircraft cabling from a portable garage it should hold the winter. If I'm not mistaken I think they're called snow load cable
perhaps something like a rope over the metal beams and secured to each side with a space of about one foot between the ropes supporting the roof canvas might work?
tents like this one where set up during the korean war and handled a good amount of snowloads , they are also used in alaska as wll im sure they can handle a decent amount of snow . also you can use extendable poles like heavy duty shower rods or closet rods if they length you need is equal to what they have.also if you keep it heated the snow will melt pretty fast not leaving a load on the roof.
Junk yard used Stretched Seat bels are great for the roof and youdouble them up with 2 se them incremental and leave a pocket for 5/16 48" sign fiberglass rod from hardware or better using stiff narrow tube is also ok between two so it is quickly stiffened and won't be sharp on tent
Now that is a tent !! I hope you figure out the snow load problem. You know how much STUFF accumulates in a living space. You will need another container and you will have to move it in and out !! A lot of travel trailer people buys the aluminum carports and put them over there homes here in Florida.
Im pretty sure the Army tested it and Im bettin they didnt have nice floor in it. Lol Also they dont care if your comfortable the drill Sgts are very specific about that lmao
I don't think your stove will be too much. Probably just right. I have been using mine with a stove from four dog stove company and while I love their stove, I think a slightly bigger stove like the one you have will excel in this tent. Oh, and by the way. Just setting it up on the dirt? I have set up the tent in 2 hours with two men. Maybe even less! Once took it down in a snow storm in 1 hour when we needed to bug out or be snowed in! Probably had 8" of snow, and it all slid off except for a very, very small amount. It is a tough tent! And well made! If you are worried about snow load, as I mentioned before, think about a tarp system above the tent! This tent will stand up. There are also surplus military tent repair kits available.
How about using foam board 2" x4x8 and use angle iron under it to give the foam board rigidity. you could also use it on the sides and just strap it to the walls.
No need to worry about snow. It will slide off. The angle is good and the tent have good integrity. Besides, if you heat the tent the snow will melt against the tent wall if you get much of it which will make it slide off even faster.
Definately attach packing blankets to ceiling with the wood slats for support. The blankets would insulate and maybe protect the canvas from wearing out as it snaps in the wind.
What about using simple pieces used for chain link fencing? Would fit around your roof center span and side poles and you could then run wire or rope across at given intervals...
I can attest to the toughness of those tents, desert and swamp land and snow. They are insulated like a yurt may be though. But he'll just put on some layers and safe the money while you build your house. 2) where did he order it from? 3) I have seen them used at hunting camps too.
Your answer is 3/4 or 1-1/2 unistrut. The holes and sliding clamps feature make it the most versatile building material available. A menagerie of options.
Wonderfulness! I'm a follwer! I want and need to up grade to this. Where, how, . thanks so much for such a detailed video. This is awesome. I plan on year round living!!
Hey EMH, great vids, and, re: the 'snow load concern', I'd suggest looking into 'theater scaffold bracing' - The connectors are not like the 'chintzy flattened-end pipe' style, with a hole / cotter pin, but rather have a cast 'C' connector at each end, with a 'clip' that's sort of like a 'retractable, spring loaded thumb' - It 'clips around' the bars, and can be removed / re-riveted onto a pipe (usually, they use alum. = easy to cut, to-length..) then you could just clip them on to your ridge poles and side cross-bars... We've had ours since the early 90's (!) still in great shape, but having a bit of a time finding the Co. info, online, to give you a link.. Will post-up, asap.
I think you will be surprised at how much snow that tent can take without failing. Love the tent btw. I recommend that if ypur really gonna get heavy snow to make two 12 foot Y poles on each end fore and aft along with a pole between them with a huge tarp to sharpen the angle for the snow and to keep it off your tent.
Im vietnam era, thank's for bringing me up to date. That's some tent. You'll get the snow thing. Im confident. Is there a tent package you buy? Ruff price? I didn't hear a price but I could have missed it...
Enjoyed the Vid. As for the snow buildup, There are plenty of ROOF SNOW REMOVAL RAKES available on the market. Just go out and in 5 minutes, you can relieve the weight problem with your tent roof.
Reminds me of the Moboflex GP Medium Tents we had in our mobile USAF unit at Rhein Main AB Germany. Great tents. Wev7sed them all over Europe, Africa, Mid East. What branch were you in? Love the channel!
Do you have the liner? I lived in FOB Salerno,Khost Afghanistan in one of those with the liner, heat and electric for 9 months at about 4000 feet over the winter, and a very wet spring. It was fine. not a lot of snow but it got very cold.
One of the best channels on a cabin tent is JoeandZachSurvival. He started his tent years ago and has added on over the years. He is in major snow country and has built a set up that would be fit for a King and company. If interested just look up "The Tent. How it all started". If really interested just watch his tent video's because there is nothing he has added that we have not seen over the years. His shower in it is well worth watching.
Iv lived in this type of tent for years,even in the depth of winter and yes I'm going to do just what you Spock about, sir it will work well more then you think I'm living in Colorado now But most of all I'm doing it my way ! At this time I'm at the V.A. In the state of Conn. Geting some work done on me. But soon I,ll be back in Colorado. Can't wait and I,ll be living in a tent just like you have their are About 5 tents that will last for 10 to 15 or more years. If you keep them in some kind of shade. The sun is the greatest danger to the tent it breaks down the fibers but to much sun on any thing here is not good. Maybe I can run in to you some time. Sir best of luck to you.
sounds like a cool experiment to me my dad had a yurt before he died that he stayed in and he loved it even in northern alberta where its -40c average and goes worse from there for round 8 months or so.given what you have seen of the tent so far do you think that it could stand up to that kind of cold?coldest ive seen it here is -56c with a 60km/hr wind puts temp at round -85c thereabouts.but i saw you had wood stove so if the tent itself doesnt shatter in the cold it might work for me as well
From what I can see if you were to use it through the winter month's you would need to build a metal roof system to remove the snow issues you will have
Here is a thought. In the winter and even the fall months, you will be using some heat. Any snow on top is going to melt and run off. But, if out all day doing whatever and the stove goes out and it snows heavy before you get the stove fired up again, yes, the snow may collect and get heavy on the roof. So, I am thinking that aluminum tubing that is flattened in the middle and bent at an angle so they fit over the center beam and flattened on the ends to be attached to the side beams to use as extra support, that would prevent the snow from tearing the roof. 2X4s would add too much weight to the frame and with added snow, possibly cause the frame to fail. Also, using a "T" pipe in the center of the stove pipe and you could use a smaller stove sitting on top of the larger stove and use in cool months and remove and cap the open "T" connector and run the larger stove in the cold months. This gives you greater options rather than running a cord to run an electric heater. The problem with electric heaters is: 1- You have to use heavy duty high amp cord so it does not overheat. 2- Electric heaters can fail, either due to power failure and or malfunction and catch fire. At least with the woodstove, you have the fire inside and it is easier to control. An electric fire is harder to put out as you can not pour water or throw snow onto it as it causes a worse fire and potential of electric shock. An accident with the woodstove and the fire is easy to put out with water and or snow.
We just bought a vacation rental in Vieques, Puerto Rico. The weather there is 82F - 89F all year round! I was thinking of putting up a yurt in the backyard for the caretaker to stay in while the house is rented (which could be a week or two out of the month) . But after finding your videos, an Army tent sounds very attractive in many ways, especially the cost! So, where can I get one of these? And how soon?
Look nice ..but what about bear other wild animal can damage this tent too.... unless you put an electric fence with solar panel around ur tent .... I like thick of plywood and 2x4 "stubs and log cabin
I have seen places where they use the tents on the Pacific Northwest and live year round and they enjoy them totally. I could see living in tent with no problems except when the nay sayers stick their noses in and causes problems with such a setup. Thanks for sharing.
I was thinking that if you tarp the roof of your tent, you can prolong the life of it, and also add some insulation to the roof. Also, packing blankets are cheap from Harbor Freight. You could put Velcro along the edges of the blankets, then hang along the walls for more insulation. Reflectix thermal layers work well too.I love the size and shape of your tent. Thanks for sharing
@@EssentialMountainHomesteading I am going to take your word and order one and stay in it while I renovate this 4 bedroom house I purchased with the land
To fight moisture, sew cotton sheets together, for a liner, military has them, I used them, don't know if they are milsurp yet, by the way Joe&Zack's tent is canvas
Ratchet straps ran from the roof to the walls Wil double or triple the snow load ability and still be quick and easy to move the tent. Plus they're cheap compared to other options
We doubled the size and added a hot shower and a fireplace.
Check it out!
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Wondering where you bought your tent?
@@TheCollectiveIntellectual we got this tent ⛺ in Idaho falls, Idaho at a army surplus store. I bet if you Google it they will come up. It was $1575.00 four years ago. Definitely build the platform.
@essentialmountainhomestead what is the name of this tent? we have the same one but no frame. We are trying to find a frame for it. The writing is hard to read on ours.
It was fun to see your video. Wife and I are going into our fourth winter here in the Ozarks. We purchased a 18X32 command tent. Last winter we had -8 degrees, so far no real heavy snow, but when it dose come down its easy from the inside to keep the roof clear.
Good luck and enjoy your tent. BTW Ann and I are in our 80's and it works for us it should be a walk in the park for a young lad such as yourself.
Rick & Ann
When I was in Afghanistan they covered some of the tents in 3 inches of spray foam on the out side it was very strong in the snow. It's a option. plus they framed a door. A outer door and mud room space with inner door.
2X4's would be your best bet for taking up some of that slack on the roof if you're worried about it. Don't use 550 cord because it'll stretch and won't be that great. That's probably one of the easiest tents the Army has to set up. If you didn't build the platform one person who knew what they were doing could set it up from start to finish in an hour. Rember to sew the seams on the roof before you stand it up then sew the side seams after that.
I was thinking of buying one for the outhouse/shithole and outpost project. Clearly for waterproofing and quick set up/temporary stay.
10th Mountain use them up at Fort Drum with no problems. We used them in Saudi and they withstood all the major sand storms. Put so many up I see them in my sleep lolololol
When I was at Drum our motto was, Travel Light, Freeze at Night.
Cbw Mama never saw a tent in
Saudi slept in the back of our pc!! stopped the bullets better than a tent!!
You regulate the temperature by adjusting the air to the fire. So it's better to have your stove on the larger side than smaller.
Great job. This setup has a lot of potential. No problem with year round setup.
No liner? We had a liner in ours during Desert Storm ... the temperature went down below freezing, but with a kerosene heater, the liner and ventilation about a dozen of us sleep quite comfortably. No humidity issues with the liner ... the only problem was my bunk was near the front entrance so I got dusted whenever someone took too much time coming in or going out during a dust storm. It also rained on us a lot (weird for Saudi Arabia, I know :P ) but we dug a ditch around the perimeter and used wooden pallets and purloined wall to wall carpeting keep us up off the ground.
where do you get the liner
Just a suggestion, run some 2" ratchet straps or even just some good 2" webbing from one side to the other across the top of the ridge pole. place sheets of 1" or 2" insulating foam above straps and then tighten the straps. Gain insulation, increase snow bearing ability and reduce any noise from canvas flapping in the wind.
Great video. Really enjoyed this as I am very interested in RV and off grid living and this tent would make an amazing alternative home at minimal cost. The platform is a great idea
You have Steel tube supports you won't have a problem adding more support tubing to hold up snow. Looks like a great tent.
That tent is really durable as we had them when i was in the service. This unit also has a liner for the inside that is an insilator for cold weather. Although i still prefer the older military tents such as the GP Large, GP Medium, or the GP Small. These tents also come with a liner to insulate them.
Where could I purchase a tent like this?
they hold up really well, even with ice here around bragg in the south.Another option we did with them in the old days, was put 2x4 walls in them.It gives options for shelves and more support for your extra snow or ice rafters.Put 2x2s on a slant matching the tent wall every four, or two feet attached to the 2x4 wall.it makes the wall more stable, and more places to attach the tent too. One of the side affects is it quiets down the flapping of the canvass. All that for a few hundred bucks more and can be done anytime after it is put up.For hot summers you can put the cheap sheet insulation on the tent side of the interior wall to stop radiant heat.One of the side affects? again even quieter, and helps in the winter. Don't forget to frame around your windows and save the insulation squares to cover them up later if you need it.And its still cheaper than a yurt.
Run paracord between the metal frame like a net pattern.
Good video, thanks. No criticism intended when I observe that a vapor barrier under the ply wouldn't have been expensive or time consuming. Nice to have the army of guys available to help you out.
forget everything I said before, this is not a frame tent like I knew, wow, what a great tent, built in windows with screens...anyhow it was dark in last video and I thought it was a standard frame tent...been retired too long...
i would get some 2x4 timbers with hangers on each end and brace the ceiling every 2 foot to hold the snow then put an insulated layer and lock it in with 2x1 . safe and toasty . love the tent its a great space . apply these kind of measures and leave it up . it will hold its own .
A lot of large tents here have a secondary top roof to provide a roof gap, mainly to help keep the tent cool, but it would work to cold weather too.
Im gonna go with a army tent , 16 x 16 , I really like the windows ,
Bamboo grid for the inner roof support, tools needed a saw, rasp or a corse file, angle grinder with sanding disc's, & paracord or zip ties and something to cover the ends of the bamboo to prevent the bamboo from puncturing the tent maby plumbing pvc caps
I would use the triple wall piping stainless like 4 inch and yes I'm sure it will be hot in there but I'm sure you will like it come winter if your using the tent during the winter and you do have a great idea to brace it on the ceiling so the snow don't push down on the tent but if you have the fire going it should melt just as fast as it comes down if you have a fire going
run a few extra beams between the main roof posts you could also run LED lighting for use when at night or when the window flaps are down
The little stove is perfect, just build a smaller fire. When I was in Hohenfel Germany out in the field, or as they call it "The Box" it hit -60 with wind chill and we were able to keep the tent at 45 degrees and stayed pretty comfortable.
Thumbs up for video enjoyed, be interesting to see what you decide in leaving up or takeing down for winter.To cope with 7ft snow will take some thought as I can't see the tent surviving 7ft of snow on top of it. Cheers.
ive thought about the same thing (my wife is not so keen), but thought about putting it in a polytunnel for a more protected climate under the poly tent/ hoop house....... that way wind and rain/snow is not so much of an issue - could also put a veggie garden under there
For my hunting tent i just use a tarp on the roof, angled the snow load slides off, or easy to bring the snow off.
If you reinforce that roof with aircraft cabling from a portable garage it should hold the winter. If I'm not mistaken I think they're called snow load cable
perhaps something like a rope over the metal beams and secured to each side with a space of about one foot between the ropes supporting the roof canvas might work?
tents like this one where set up during the korean war and handled a good amount of snowloads , they are also used in alaska as wll im sure they can handle a decent amount of snow . also you can use extendable poles like heavy duty shower rods or closet rods if they length you need is equal to what they have.also if you keep it heated the snow will melt pretty fast not leaving a load on the roof.
Junk yard used Stretched Seat bels are great for the roof and youdouble them up with 2 se them incremental and leave a pocket for 5/16 48" sign fiberglass rod from hardware or better using stiff narrow tube is also ok between two so it is quickly stiffened and won't be sharp on tent
The Army tents we used someone had to put a center pole up then smaller poles went up along the perimeter.
Love your videos, I think this is something I can do..... I think it could do the winter, can't wait to see what happens......
Galanna Thomas, I think you can to!! Good luck out there.
Now that is a tent !! I hope you figure out the snow load problem. You know how much STUFF accumulates in a living space. You will need another container and you will have to move it in and out !! A lot of travel trailer people buys the aluminum carports and put them over there homes here in Florida.
Hi I like the tent over the yurt. Thanks for your video. What is nomenclature for your tent? How big is it? How many "man" tent is it??
Very interesting! Maybe you're planning on it but I would either fire brick or stone under the stove even with its metal feet.
"How Does the Off Grid Army Tent Do In Bad Weather"..... ummmmm.... who knows??? It definitely wasn't answered or even proven in this video.
Im pretty sure the Army tested it and Im bettin they didnt have nice floor in it. Lol Also they dont care if your comfortable the drill Sgts are very specific about that lmao
Nothing matches that feeling when you get a cot near the heating port in winter. Blessed.
CommonCentsRob .......don't think he is interested in showing the answer
Nice video. Seen other folks that build roof over, kind of like car port. Keeps snow off, etc.
I don't think your stove will be too much. Probably just right. I have been using mine with a stove from four dog stove company and while I love their stove, I think a slightly bigger stove like the one you have will excel in this tent. Oh, and by the way. Just setting it up on the dirt? I have set up the tent in 2 hours with two men. Maybe even less! Once took it down in a snow storm in 1 hour when we needed to bug out or be snowed in! Probably had 8" of snow, and it all slid off except for a very, very small amount. It is a tough tent! And well made! If you are worried about snow load, as I mentioned before, think about a tarp system above the tent! This tent will stand up. There are also surplus military tent repair kits available.
How about using foam board 2" x4x8 and use angle iron under it to give the foam board rigidity. you could also use it on the sides and just strap it to the walls.
No need to worry about snow. It will slide off. The angle is good and the tent have good integrity. Besides, if you heat the tent the snow will melt against the tent wall if you get much of it which will make it slide off even faster.
Definately attach packing blankets to ceiling with the wood slats for support. The blankets would insulate and maybe protect the canvas from wearing out as it snaps in the wind.
Plus tarp on out side to protect from uv light and weakening of tent.
What about using simple pieces used for chain link fencing? Would fit around your roof center span and side poles and you could then run wire or rope across at given intervals...
I can attest to the toughness of those tents, desert and swamp land and snow. They are insulated like a yurt may be though. But he'll just put on some layers and safe the money while you build your house. 2) where did he order it from? 3) I have seen them used at hunting camps too.
Your answer is 3/4 or 1-1/2 unistrut. The holes and sliding clamps feature make it the most versatile building material available. A menagerie of options.
Wow super cool tent, useful for many occasions.
Wonderfulness! I'm a follwer! I want and need to up grade to this. Where, how, . thanks so much for such a detailed video. This is awesome. I plan on year round living!!
Hey EMH, great vids, and, re: the 'snow load concern', I'd suggest looking into 'theater scaffold bracing' - The connectors are not like the 'chintzy flattened-end pipe' style, with a hole / cotter pin, but rather have a cast 'C' connector at each end, with a 'clip' that's sort of like a 'retractable, spring loaded thumb' - It 'clips around' the bars, and can be removed / re-riveted onto a pipe (usually, they use alum. = easy to cut, to-length..) then you could just clip them on to your ridge poles and side cross-bars... We've had ours since the early 90's (!) still in great shape, but having a bit of a time finding the Co. info, online, to give you a link.. Will post-up, asap.
I think you will be surprised at how much snow that tent can take without failing. Love the tent btw.
I recommend that if ypur really gonna get heavy snow to make two 12 foot Y poles on each end fore and aft along with a pole between them with a huge tarp to sharpen the angle for the snow and to keep it off your tent.
How about steel or aluminum cables with turn buckle tensioners from side to side and front to back as well? Nylon webbing with ratchet ?
Im vietnam era, thank's for bringing me up to date. That's some tent. You'll get the snow thing. Im confident. Is there a tent package you buy? Ruff price? I didn't hear a price but I could have missed it...
This is number two of three Videos in a series. We picked this tent up for about $1500.00 two years ago
Enjoyed the Vid.
As for the snow buildup, There are plenty of ROOF SNOW REMOVAL RAKES
available on the market. Just go out and in 5 minutes, you can relieve
the weight problem with your tent roof.
If the metal top rails can be drilled into how about screwing some 4x8s in as a roof on the inside?
ramona14220, That's a great idea, I'll try it out!
Reminds me of the Moboflex GP Medium Tents we had in our mobile USAF unit at Rhein Main AB Germany. Great tents. Wev7sed them all over Europe, Africa, Mid East. What branch were you in? Love the channel!
Love the video and Looking to buy a army tent, just wondering how the tent would do in the winter
red volcano, We have two of these tents now and they are definitely a rain only tent and you want to keep them out of the wind if at all possible.
Do you have the liner? I lived in FOB Salerno,Khost Afghanistan in one of those with the liner, heat and electric for 9 months at about 4000 feet over the winter, and a very wet spring. It was fine. not a lot of snow but it got very cold.
Been seeing a few of these type of military tents up for sale on KSL lately. Very nice
would this tent be good for connecting an RV, trailer, to a van and car? How does it do in tropical conditions (heavy rain)
I like this idea. Thinking about putting one in my old barn. Would add some more protection and save cleaning snow off it.
One of the best channels on a cabin tent is JoeandZachSurvival. He started his tent years ago and has added on over the years. He is in major snow country and has built a set up that would be fit for a King and company. If interested just look up "The Tent. How it all started". If really interested just watch his tent video's because there is nothing he has added that we have not seen over the years. His shower in it is well worth watching.
Iv lived in this type of tent for years,even in the depth of winter and yes I'm going to do just what you Spock about, sir it will work well more then you think I'm living in Colorado now But most of all I'm doing it my way ! At this time I'm at the V.A. In the state of Conn. Geting some work done on me. But soon I,ll be back in Colorado. Can't wait and I,ll be living in a tent just like you have their are About 5 tents that will last for 10 to 15 or more years. If you keep them in some kind of shade. The sun is the greatest danger to the tent it breaks down the fibers but to much sun on any thing here is not good. Maybe I can run in to you some time. Sir best of luck to you.
sounds like a cool experiment to me my dad had a yurt before he died that he stayed in and he loved it even in northern alberta where its -40c average and goes worse from there for round 8 months or so.given what you have seen of the tent so far do you think that it could stand up to that kind of cold?coldest ive seen it here is -56c with a 60km/hr wind puts temp at round -85c thereabouts.but i saw you had wood stove so if the tent itself doesnt shatter in the cold it might work for me as well
From what I can see if you were to use it through the winter month's you would need to build a metal roof system to remove the snow issues you will have
Much better than your first video! How big is your tent? Thanks!
I don't know what the span is, but you might use a sheet if half inch plywood on 2x4
I would think that if kept warm inside during the winter that the lack of insulation would melt the snow from the roof rather quickly.
Did you do anything about the wind coming in from the sides?
Wind would be my only concern depending on where it sets.
Here is a thought. In the winter and even the fall months, you will be using some heat. Any snow on top is going to melt and run off. But, if out all day doing whatever and the stove goes out and it snows heavy before you get the stove fired up again, yes, the snow may collect and get heavy on the roof. So, I am thinking that aluminum tubing that is flattened in the middle and bent at an angle so they fit over the center beam and flattened on the ends to be attached to the side beams to use as extra support, that would prevent the snow from tearing the roof. 2X4s would add too much weight to the frame and with added snow, possibly cause the frame to fail.
Also, using a "T" pipe in the center of the stove pipe and you could use a smaller stove sitting on top of the larger stove and use in cool months and remove and cap the open "T" connector and run the larger stove in the cold months. This gives you greater options rather than running a cord to run an electric heater. The problem with electric heaters is: 1- You have to use heavy duty high amp cord so it does not overheat. 2- Electric heaters can fail, either due to power failure and or malfunction and catch fire. At least with the woodstove, you have the fire inside and it is easier to control. An electric fire is harder to put out as you can not pour water or throw snow onto it as it causes a worse fire and potential of electric shock. An accident with the woodstove and the fire is easy to put out with water and or snow.
Azri'el Collier, THANKS FOR WRITING, THERE IS A TON OF GOOD INFO HERE!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You are welcome.
We just bought a vacation rental in Vieques, Puerto Rico. The weather there is 82F - 89F all year round! I was thinking of putting up a yurt in the backyard for the caretaker to stay in while the house is rented (which could be a week or two out of the month) . But after finding your videos, an Army tent sounds very attractive in many ways, especially the cost! So, where can I get one of these? And how soon?
Donna Capuano, Send me an email and I will get you my phone number
Donnacapuanokumon@yahoo.com
Thank you for the quick reply!
Donna Capuano Is it still there after the Hurricane's???
Essential Mountain Homesteading
Where's the yurt you're "versusing?"
Look nice ..but what about bear other wild animal can damage this tent too.... unless you put an electric fence with solar panel around ur tent .... I like thick of plywood and 2x4 "stubs and log cabin
a push broom pushing up the tent from the inside gets rid of your snow load,
7000 ft in the Rockies interesting, still think you should have made the deck considerably more robust. Insulated and sealed.
Run your roof braces top to bottom otherwise snow will build up rather than slide off. Best
Are there codes and building requirements everywhere in Idaho? Are there restrictions on Solar Power?
I'm kinda thinkin that if you have the heat going during a snow event, you will not have to worry about any kind of snow load.
Did you ever look into something like a small rocket mass heater?
So i noticed the corners have open corners, meaning I'm seeing day light, whats the the cure for that, & what's the warranty on the tent
To get ready for the snow you could build a metal roof that covers the tent's roof and that would keep the snow from the tent all together.
Military tents stand to the test of time I have that same one and u can't kill it
I lived in one for a year in Korea on the dmz
I would love to know if it would work !
What a great idea..tent living...
How hard to just build 4 legs and a roof. Covering the whole tent and Some? Then protected from weight of snow and some protection from harshness.
How did it work out? Is the tent still going strong?
These tents are awesome 👌
LOVE THAT TENT. I DIDN'T CATCH THE PRICE BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN EXPENSIVE.
I have seen places where they use the tents on the Pacific Northwest and live year round and they enjoy them totally. I could see living in tent with no problems except when the nay sayers stick their noses in and causes problems with such a setup. Thanks for sharing.
Those tents are awesome very durable. The military use em in cold weather so it’s very doable
I was thinking that if you tarp the roof of your tent, you can prolong the life of it, and also add some insulation to the roof. Also, packing blankets are cheap from Harbor Freight. You could put Velcro along the edges of the blankets, then hang along the walls for more insulation. Reflectix thermal layers work well too.I love the size and shape of your tent. Thanks for sharing
demofactory,
I really like your tarp Idea I think it would definitely help make the tent last for years
I don't have a snow problem in Mississippi so do you think this tent will hold up. We also don't have much of a winter here.
I think the tent would be awsome
@@EssentialMountainHomesteading I am going to take your word and order one and stay in it while I renovate this 4 bedroom house I purchased with the land
@@pinkblackmore6629 I would definitely recommend you put it up on a platform That will help keep you out of rain
@@EssentialMountainHomesteading I was going to put it on one and do a bathroom in it. I already 20 100 watt solar panels and a well
Is this the 16 x 16 frame tent or the x-base 203 tent and NSN #. thanks
To fight moisture, sew cotton sheets together, for a liner, military has them, I used them, don't know if they are milsurp yet, by the way Joe&Zack's tent is canvas
I would think as long as you have a fire place in there snow shouldn't be a problem
awesome tent..
would a rocket stove require less Ash removal ?
Where is the best place to find 1 of these complete??
Ratchet straps ran from the roof to the walls Wil double or triple the snow load ability and still be quick and easy to move the tent. Plus they're cheap compared to other options
That's a great idea I'll definitely give that a try
Some plywood with support on the roof would be great for snow...
Then the frame will have to carry the weight of the snow and the ply ;)
how come none of the guy lines are setup?