I visited the same location a few weeks ago and found the old railway lines that went on to the pier together with the tight turn that would head towards Barton. By the time I was using the crossing regularly the pier station was never used, although it still appeared on the timetable. The coal fired ferries were not in regular use. Instead, a ferry from the Isle of Wight service, The Farringford, was used. This was diesel powered, but still used paddles rather than screws. Great to have the background story to understand how it all happened.
Brings back happy memories as a young boy in the 50s, my Grandfather used to take me across the Humber and back as a treat. I still remember the saloon below deck, on a rough crossing every body piled in to be out of the wind.
Hi Hull History Nerd I enjoy your videoseries very much. I am a writer from the Netherlands, and my stories involve a bit of history and development of towns and settlements, and your research and superb delivery are absolute gems about humans and their habitat and development. Thank you very much for these inspiring stories!
I remember when as a six year old Cub Scout (Newland), in 1961, being taken on a weekend trip with other cubs to ‘cub cottage’ in New Holland. I recall the ferry journey across the Humber as the most exciting thing I had ever done! And, of course, at that age, it was!
Great stuff again. They all bring back memories, but trips over the ferries always seemed exotic for this Newland Ave lad. Especially when getting stuck on a sandbar waiting for the tides to rise. The train running down the pier seemed crazy with water splashing underneath.
I can imagine! My dad once took me to Southend pier, and I couldn't believe that trains used to run along it. My 10 year old brain struggled with the idea that a heavy train could even venture into this old wooden set of stilts!
@@hullhistorynerd hahaha! yes..I recall going with m father to waterloo station on the underground from where we lived in the suburbs. I checked the map and said something like, 'Wow! I can't wait for the train to go on the bridge over the Thames..' and my father said, there wasn't a bridge, it was a tunnel and i began to get very anxious... and hey thanks for episode two. Fascinating. I've been looking forward to it. That was quite a big engine shed at New Holland.
I was recently on holiday around these parts and it's indeed a very interesting village. Definitely go back again, and my knowledge of the place is reasonably well thanks to this video and TVI, too! Next thing I am looking at is just how baffling it was with its old train station being 1 site divided into 2 parts!
Whilst I'm about it, I have no idea why a channel so well researched, truly excellently researched and presented, doesn't have 126, 760 subscribers. It makes no sense.
@@pufango4059 Well we’re not remotely local and still enjoy them. Great for people that enjoy industrial architecture and economic history. (Well, for as long as we have industry, or an economy anyway.)
I'm not sure there are that many people with an Internet connection who are interested in local history in Hull! My channel is very local in its appeal and I knew that going in. I'm frankly surprised I have as many subscribers and views as I do!
@@pufango4059 I’m not a local viewer. I find any history of Britain interesting. It’s like saying Steve Marsh should only attract people in Scotland or Jago Hazzard those in London.
i am watching from across the North sea. Local history is comparable everywhere, the details of certain geographic features, opportunities etc., are very interesting and i think they reflect on much more than just Hull and surroundings. That said, i wish someone made something of this incredible quality about my own region :)
The Metrovick episode will be coming this weekend, I'm almost done editing it, tomorrow is research day for the first episode in my Lost Villages of Hull series on Sculcoates! Lots of videos coming over summer, even with our car out of action!
Absolutely brilliant - again. You reference gin smuggling to New Holland from Dutch merchant men in the Humber. Although this could be gin spirit could it also be genevre, the Dutch corn spirit? Learnt more about Hull & area in past 2 days binge watching than previous 24 years living & working in the Town.
Remember Dad driving the car along the platform at NH, not bad n a Morris Minor but less so n a Land Crab. And the burly guys bouncing the cars into the corners of the Castles. Great memories.
@@hullhistorynerd does anyone else have memories of being in a car with 3 or 4 blokes picking up or bouncing the back of the car in. Before they built the ramps they used to crane them on and off according to my Dad
Just come across a film taken from a rail tour that actually goes out onto the pier. on UA-cam look up 1976 railtour from London to New Holland Pier, then Lincoln Castle paddle steamer to Grimsby, put on by johnmacc588
Your report is perfectly researched , i lived in New Holland from mid 70s till 1980 I left as nothing was there for me and joined the British Army along with a mate from the North bank lol . Called Chris Chadwick who lived at OPE orchard park Estate.. dents creek went behind the New Holland school all the way to opposite the Magna charta pub . Your an excellent researcher that doesn't have local knowledge, to this I have learned and take my hat off sir .
Done yourself proud another cracking video.pulled timber out new Holland many times.the bridge not only put an end to the ferries but cost us night's out before the bridge was built we had to take the long way round via goole so couldn't get home, in those days £10 night out money was a nice boost to our wage's at an average of 3 night's a week £30was very welcome Looking forward to part 3
Many thanks for another great video and I am looking forward to the third one in the series. My grandfather had a coal business in Hull and used to make frequent trips to New Holland. Any chance I got I would go with him and have many happy memories of those trips, you could watch the paddle wheels from inside and see the triple expansion steam engine work below in the engine room. Probably it is what go me going on a long sea going career as an engineer. Good to see you making a guest appearance on Martin Zero's channel, even wearing the same tee shirt I note.
Looking forward to your next video. I traveled on one of the Humber ferry’s as a small child of three and live in Hartlepool where the Wingfield Castle is displayed 😍
@@hullhistorynerd Yes she’s needing some TLC. Unfortunately our costal Council is the second smallest in England and does not attract enough business to provide enough Rates to provide a good income. We pay a high Council Tax and always have. We’re in the same boat as all the poor costal towns and places like Hull. Over 50 years of deprivation doesn’t help 🤷🏼♀️
Thumbs up mate.I noticed on your map a castle reference a few hundred yards south of New Holland,any chance of a 'sniff' around that some time. Anyway,i,m really enjoying this trilogy. Cheers.
Oo, good catch, the one just south of Barrow? Just looked it up now and found some info on it. It's certainly a possibility once we get sorted with a new car!
@@hullhistorynerd Yes that,s right,Barrow Haven on google maps.There,s all sorts of lumps and bumps on google earth.Thank you for replying to my comment.
Interesting how the Dutch just refused to settle in that specific place, maybe still sour from the 1672 war. We still are sour by the way, give us Chatham back, haha!
Few comments those tracks into bulk services are not the original to the jetti Those were relaid where they are now when the town station was demolished which was roughly the location of the weigh bridge The signal box and waiting room still stand on the end of the pier Abp have nothing to do with bulk services or abour forest timber
Most appreciated, H H N and Kate. Off-comment - Timestamp: 9' 22" - Where my Darling Mary and I met, September 1971. Pearson Park, adjacent to 12A Westbourne Avenue. 💖 Stay free. Rab ⏰ 🎲 🌠 🕊
Great video as always. Are you planning to do one on the river hull and beverley beck as part of your water courses series? I just took a ride on one of the boats that the Beverley Barge Preservation Society run, and they'd be a great shout to go on to get some b roll.
I'll certainly be covering Beverley Beck when I start my series on Beverley's history! The river Hull I've already covered somewhat in the first episode of the Docks series, the Old Harbour.
Oh believe me, that's a mystery I discovered when I was first looking at that map. On the National Library of Scotland site, the map scan clearly says 1853 on the border, and yet it's impossible as it shows the Hull and Hornsea, which didn't even get an act of parliament till the 1860s! Something very wrong there, and I keep meaning to contact OS to see if they know there's a problem! What's even more fascinating is that Stepney Station doesn't exist on that same map! Which it wouldn't have if, indeed, the map was at it claims, surveyed 1852-1853!
Very much an estuary. Miles and miles of sucking mud, most certainly no beaches! That said, we're not far from the east coast here, so places like Hornsea and Withernsea are close enough for an afternoon out by the sea!
@@natureclips5849 I've no idea, not really my thing, I'm afraid! Although I do know there are some wildlife reserves on the south bank across the Humber bridge, and Spurn Point and much of the area around Kilnsea is a big bird reserve. Be careful on Spurn point though, it becomes an island at high tide.
It's so hard to find research sources online, literally every other search result is for tractors. All I wanted was to find a book or two about the history of the place.... Luckily Hull History Centre wasn't full of books about tractors!
The area is soo lucky to have such an historian who gathers and produces content soo enthusiastically for us all to enjoy.
I visited the same location a few weeks ago and found the old railway lines that went on to the pier together with the tight turn that would head towards Barton. By the time I was using the crossing regularly the pier station was never used, although it still appeared on the timetable. The coal fired ferries were not in regular use. Instead, a ferry from the Isle of Wight service, The Farringford, was used. This was diesel powered, but still used paddles rather than screws. Great to have the background story to understand how it all happened.
You'll see the story of Farringford and the steam driven Castles in part 3 of this series!
Brings back happy memories as a young boy in the 50s, my Grandfather used to take me across the Humber and back as a treat. I still remember the saloon below deck, on a rough crossing every body piled in to be out of the wind.
you said a year ago you were working on the new holland ferries ,and you have not disapointed . brilliant thank you. brian d.
I've usually got ideas stacked up a couple of years in advance!
@@hullhistorynerd looking forward as always.
Love that fade from the old pic to the new. Great video, thankyou!
Hi Hull History Nerd
I enjoy your videoseries very much. I am a writer from the Netherlands, and my stories involve a bit of history and development of towns and settlements, and your research and superb delivery are absolute gems about humans and their habitat and development. Thank you very much for these inspiring stories!
I remember when as a six year old Cub Scout (Newland), in 1961, being taken on a weekend trip with other cubs to ‘cub cottage’ in New Holland. I recall the ferry journey across the Humber as the most exciting thing I had ever done! And, of course, at that age, it was!
Great stuff again. They all bring back memories, but trips over the ferries always seemed exotic for this Newland Ave lad. Especially when getting stuck on a sandbar waiting for the tides to rise. The train running down the pier seemed crazy with water splashing underneath.
I can imagine! My dad once took me to Southend pier, and I couldn't believe that trains used to run along it. My 10 year old brain struggled with the idea that a heavy train could even venture into this old wooden set of stilts!
@@hullhistorynerd hahaha! yes..I recall going with m father to waterloo station on the underground from where we lived in the suburbs. I checked the map and said something like, 'Wow! I can't wait for the train to go on the bridge over the Thames..' and my father said, there wasn't a bridge, it was a tunnel and i began to get very anxious... and hey thanks for episode two. Fascinating. I've been looking forward to it. That was quite a big engine shed at New Holland.
I was recently on holiday around these parts and it's indeed a very interesting village. Definitely go back again, and my knowledge of the place is reasonably well thanks to this video and TVI, too! Next thing I am looking at is just how baffling it was with its old train station being 1 site divided into 2 parts!
Whilst I'm about it, I have no idea why a channel so well researched, truly excellently researched and presented, doesn't have 126, 760 subscribers.
It makes no sense.
Excellent videos but it’s only interesting for local viewers .Thats why there aren’t thousands more subscribers
@@pufango4059 Well we’re not remotely local and still enjoy them. Great for people that enjoy industrial architecture and economic history.
(Well, for as long as we have industry, or an economy anyway.)
I'm not sure there are that many people with an Internet connection who are interested in local history in Hull! My channel is very local in its appeal and I knew that going in. I'm frankly surprised I have as many subscribers and views as I do!
@@pufango4059 I’m not a local viewer. I find any history of Britain interesting. It’s like saying Steve Marsh should only attract people in Scotland or Jago Hazzard those in London.
i am watching from across the North sea. Local history is comparable everywhere, the details of certain geographic features, opportunities etc., are very interesting and i think they reflect on much more than just Hull and surroundings.
That said, i wish someone made something of this incredible quality about my own region :)
Great video, as always. The dodgy gin set up is very interesting!
Thank you for another excellent video, nice to see you at Bury with Martin Zero, that will be another to look forward to. Thank you for posting.
The Metrovick episode will be coming this weekend, I'm almost done editing it, tomorrow is research day for the first episode in my Lost Villages of Hull series on Sculcoates! Lots of videos coming over summer, even with our car out of action!
@@hullhistorynerd can only be good there's nowt on the Tele as interesting.
Fascinating stuff. And thank you very much for turning down the background soundtrack - I could hear what you were saying this time👍😊
Absolutely brilliant - again.
You reference gin smuggling to New Holland from Dutch merchant men in the Humber. Although this could be gin spirit could it also be genevre, the Dutch corn spirit?
Learnt more about Hull & area in past 2 days binge watching than previous 24 years living & working in the Town.
Remember Dad driving the car along the platform at NH, not bad n a Morris Minor but less so n a Land Crab.
And the burly guys bouncing the cars into the corners of the Castles. Great memories.
I did wonder how they got so tightly packed on the deck, but to know that they just hired big blokes to bounce them into place is just brilliant!
@@hullhistorynerd does anyone else have memories of being in a car with 3 or 4 blokes picking up or bouncing the back of the car in.
Before they built the ramps they used to crane them on and off according to my Dad
No comment from me HN. You know I'll be loitering about enthusiastically waiting for another gem....
Just come across a film taken from a rail tour that actually goes out onto the pier. on UA-cam look up 1976 railtour from London to New Holland Pier, then Lincoln Castle paddle steamer to Grimsby, put on by johnmacc588
Great stuff there thanks , subbed
As enjoyable and well made and presented as ever. Thank you for this wonderful film! 👍🌟
Superb as always my good man ,keep up the amazing work .
Great series. I can faintly remember the ferry on visits.
The creek behind you is known as Dents creek
Your report is perfectly researched , i lived in New Holland from mid 70s till 1980 I left as nothing was there for me and joined the British Army along with a mate from the North bank lol . Called Chris Chadwick who lived at OPE orchard park Estate.. dents creek went behind the New Holland school all the way to opposite the Magna charta pub . Your an excellent researcher that doesn't have local knowledge, to this I have learned and take my hat off sir .
Done yourself proud another cracking video.pulled timber out new Holland many times.the bridge not only put an end to the ferries but cost us night's out before the bridge was built we had to take the long way round via goole so couldn't get home, in those days £10 night out money was a nice boost to our wage's at an average of 3 night's a week £30was very welcome
Looking forward to part 3
Your films are very interesting, so I always wait for them impatiently.
Thank you.
Many thanks for another great video and I am looking forward to the third one in the series. My grandfather had a coal business in Hull and used to make frequent trips to New Holland. Any chance I got I would go with him and have many happy memories of those trips, you could watch the paddle wheels from inside and see the triple expansion steam engine work below in the engine room. Probably it is what go me going on a long sea going career as an engineer. Good to see you making a guest appearance on Martin Zero's channel, even wearing the same tee shirt I note.
Always a thrill to stand and watch the engines through the big window.
One of life’s abiding memories
So glad your back...always interesting and entertaining.
Looking forward to your next video.
I traveled on one of the Humber ferry’s as a small child of three and live in Hartlepool where the Wingfield Castle is displayed 😍
Fantastic! I really hope the council manages to get a grant to restore her I understand she looking a little worse for wear these days 😔
@@hullhistorynerd
Yes she’s needing some TLC. Unfortunately our costal Council is the second smallest in England and does not attract enough business to provide enough Rates to provide a good income. We pay a high Council Tax and always have.
We’re in the same boat as all the poor costal towns and places like Hull. Over 50 years of deprivation doesn’t help 🤷🏼♀️
Thumbs up mate.I noticed on your map a castle reference a few hundred yards south of New Holland,any chance of a 'sniff' around that some time.
Anyway,i,m really enjoying this trilogy.
Cheers.
Oo, good catch, the one just south of Barrow? Just looked it up now and found some info on it. It's certainly a possibility once we get sorted with a new car!
@@hullhistorynerd Yes that,s right,Barrow Haven on google maps.There,s all sorts of lumps and bumps on google earth.Thank you for replying to my comment.
Great stuff as always, anything with some railway interest really puts my boat out (pun intended).
This was so interesting, thank you 👍
Thanks, I always enjoy your videos.
Another great informative video. Thanks
I love your videos,keep em coming,thanks lad
Interesting how the Dutch just refused to settle in that specific place, maybe still sour from the 1672 war.
We still are sour by the way, give us Chatham back, haha!
Right Chief. The word's out. I want to see that Met Vic video, and quick about it please.
Not long to wait, it's coming next weekend!
@@hullhistorynerd Excellent news. We'll be waiting with anttttttt....icipation.
Wonderful videos. We've watched them to death.
Very interesting.
Few comments those tracks into bulk services are not the original to the jetti
Those were relaid where they are now when the town station was demolished which was roughly the location of the weigh bridge
The signal box and waiting room still stand on the end of the pier
Abp have nothing to do with bulk services or abour forest timber
Good job I didn't say any of those things in the video, then!
@@hullhistorynerd I used to work and live in new Holland have various old photos ect if you need any info give me a message
Brilliant as ever Jim (y)
Most appreciated, H H N and Kate. Off-comment - Timestamp: 9' 22" - Where my Darling Mary and I met, September 1971. Pearson Park, adjacent to 12A Westbourne Avenue. 💖
Stay free. Rab ⏰ 🎲 🌠 🕊
Great video as always. Are you planning to do one on the river hull and beverley beck as part of your water courses series? I just took a ride on one of the boats that the Beverley Barge Preservation Society run, and they'd be a great shout to go on to get some b roll.
I'll certainly be covering Beverley Beck when I start my series on Beverley's history! The river Hull I've already covered somewhat in the first episode of the Docks series, the Old Harbour.
9:13 shows the Hornsea line original terminus station at Wilmington which opened in 1864 yet the heading states 1853?
Oh believe me, that's a mystery I discovered when I was first looking at that map. On the National Library of Scotland site, the map scan clearly says 1853 on the border, and yet it's impossible as it shows the Hull and Hornsea, which didn't even get an act of parliament till the 1860s! Something very wrong there, and I keep meaning to contact OS to see if they know there's a problem!
What's even more fascinating is that Stepney Station doesn't exist on that same map! Which it wouldn't have if, indeed, the map was at it claims, surveyed 1852-1853!
Subscribed I’m off to Hull is there a beach in Hull or is it estuary ???
Very much an estuary. Miles and miles of sucking mud, most certainly no beaches! That said, we're not far from the east coast here, so places like Hornsea and Withernsea are close enough for an afternoon out by the sea!
@@hullhistorynerd any nature birdlife ?? Terns gulls I imagine
@@natureclips5849 I've no idea, not really my thing, I'm afraid! Although I do know there are some wildlife reserves on the south bank across the Humber bridge, and Spurn Point and much of the area around Kilnsea is a big bird reserve. Be careful on Spurn point though, it becomes an island at high tide.
@@hullhistorynerd sound like it will be good for birds thanks had Hull escaped the heatwave of the south ?
@@natureclips5849 I wish. My office is a loft, and I have been melting whilst trying to edit together the next video!
Nothing to do with tractors then?! 🚜
It's so hard to find research sources online, literally every other search result is for tractors. All I wanted was to find a book or two about the history of the place.... Luckily Hull History Centre wasn't full of books about tractors!
@@hullhistorynerd I was being ironic! I subscribe to your channel anyway. Keep-up the good-work!
@@markrobert6028 I figured, but the tractor thing was a real problem!