Chatterfang vs Roxanne vs Talion vs Rograkh/Thrasios | CEDH Gameplay

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  • @Strakneus
    @Strakneus 23 дні тому +148

    Very clean Narration. I miss Ryans voice for this but whoever is doing it now is doing a great job!

    • @zebedeereichert7204
      @zebedeereichert7204 23 дні тому +33

      Don't worry! I'll only be doing the narration every once in a while. Ryan is still our main man!

    • @Strakneus
      @Strakneus 23 дні тому +17

      @@zebedeereichert7204 well your narration is everybit as understandable and clean as Ryans. It makes the game very easy to follow. Keep up the great work!

    • @jessesandburg
      @jessesandburg 23 дні тому +5

      A+ voice over. Its Pong-uh-Fi, not ponge a fi. Otherwise fantastic, hah.

    • @benkristendotcom
      @benkristendotcom 23 дні тому +1

      @@jessesandburg Different or mispronounciations are kinda fun IMO honestly! Get a chuckle every time I hear one, or say one.

    • @veganpork7601
      @veganpork7601 23 дні тому +1

      @@zebedeereichert7204 your narration was very good even though you mispronounced "pongify"

  • @franslair2199
    @franslair2199 23 дні тому +105

    Tonight's most valuable card is missing triggers

    • @arbunckle
      @arbunckle 21 день тому +1

      that was hard to keep track of...

    • @dvdpekard
      @dvdpekard 8 днів тому +2

      As a Talion player, I feel offended by the amount of missed triggers in this match 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @dimitriosdoulgeris4659
    @dimitriosdoulgeris4659 23 дні тому +56

    About 4:35
    Dockside also triggers Ashani's Phantasmal Talion. Dockside has 1 power and Ashani named 1.

    • @jackfruscalzo3117
      @jackfruscalzo3117 23 дні тому +16

      so does deathright shaman triggers both also

    • @Whothegoat671
      @Whothegoat671 23 дні тому +3

      Yeah it wasn’t said but I think they both drew idk about lose of life though! 🤷🏾‍♂️but it happens in any game you could miss triggers

    • @deciswu6488
      @deciswu6488 21 день тому

      @@Whothegoat671nope only lost 2life

  • @Inspectornills
    @Inspectornills 23 дні тому +22

    runic armasaur should be used more, that's one helluva draw engine for green

    • @paulmcclain642
      @paulmcclain642 19 днів тому

      I played it for a long time it was never this good 😢

  • @jasonsavory9748
    @jasonsavory9748 23 дні тому +15

    Please people, Talion triggers on Mana value, power or toughness!

  • @TheCorvusSanguine
    @TheCorvusSanguine 23 дні тому +13

    Crisp narration, generally speaking, but I understand it's not to everyone's taste.
    As for the gameplay, a little more sloppy than I'm used to for PWP. Still a good game, and glad to see content from the channel.

    • @slymcfly123
      @slymcfly123 23 дні тому +8

      They missed a few Talion triggers and Alana should have lost to pact.

    • @amaraleksandr2645
      @amaraleksandr2645 23 дні тому +2

      Seems like a big deal

    • @devonlamrock869
      @devonlamrock869 23 дні тому +2

      If you forget a pact trigger and it’s later in the game and someone realizes it, it goes on the stack right then and there.

    • @slymcfly123
      @slymcfly123 23 дні тому

      @devonlamrock869 I stopped watching after she missed it. No idea how they dealt with it.

  • @deandreholmes3807
    @deandreholmes3807 23 дні тому +47

    Narration is so clean and crisp that it sounds like AI. Whoever is narrating this round is doing great!

    • @ggangulo
      @ggangulo 23 дні тому

      agreed. I thought the same

    • @WolfonMars1
      @WolfonMars1 23 дні тому +10

      It's almost like AI was trained on real people doing this stuff. I'd be insulted if someone said this about something I did. This is way better than anything AI could ever do

    • @franslair2199
      @franslair2199 23 дні тому

      ​@@WolfonMars1TTS doesn't really need to be trained on people

    • @WolfonMars1
      @WolfonMars1 23 дні тому +1

      @@franslair2199 you'd have to be ignorant to think it wasn't trained on real voices

    • @franslair2199
      @franslair2199 23 дні тому

      @@WolfonMars1 you don't really understand how tts works

  • @VexingPongo
    @VexingPongo 23 дні тому +7

    I enjoy the extra flashy effects when things go on the stack and at the end

  • @Spirited_skiing
    @Spirited_skiing 23 дні тому +15

    Love the new editor’s flair and the new commentator!
    I was apprehensive around narration at first as Ryan left big shoes to fill but I’m really excited with the new direction!

  • @SylverDreamer85
    @SylverDreamer85 23 дні тому +4

    This is the video where I admit that I've never heard of Talion and it looks like a FANTASTIC commander. Thank you for this video!

    • @diegorezi5760
      @diegorezi5760 22 дні тому

      I was building one then Nadu was released...stoped the biuld for a while...still, im doi g a proxy nadu as the deck has a ban problem...

  • @aquaone
    @aquaone 23 дні тому +5

    well done Zeb!

  • @bobpopo9958
    @bobpopo9958 23 дні тому +13

    doesn’t talion count power toughness too on spells?

    • @lukepierce2459
      @lukepierce2459 23 дні тому +7

      Yes so the dockside should’ve triggered the talion copy. They just missed the trigger. Things happen lol

    • @MM-lv4iv
      @MM-lv4iv 23 дні тому +5

      They also missed that BOTH talions should've triggered on the Deathrite Shaman

  • @dfetzer707
    @dfetzer707 23 дні тому +4

    As the local Cedh chatterfang player, thank you

  • @ProTahZziohinAction
    @ProTahZziohinAction 23 дні тому +3

    Not that matters, but runic armasaur was casted using sol ring, swamp and command tower instead of the mox diamond in place of the swamp. This may just not have been mentioned in narration but there were triggers from the talions that could've been missed.

    • @Darmanimon
      @Darmanimon 23 дні тому +4

      there was a yavimaya, cradle of growth on the field, so the swamp was tapped for green mana. Yavimaya was the Roxanne player's first land of the game, I believe

    • @ProTahZziohinAction
      @ProTahZziohinAction 23 дні тому

      I should just shut up lol 😭

  • @blakeday1522
    @blakeday1522 23 дні тому +12

    Damn that hail Mary by ashani was wild. I really thought he was going to find an answer or out before the sheoldred triggers did him in.

    • @HelenoPaiva
      @HelenoPaiva 23 дні тому

      I have just taken out a [[Discontinuity]] from my EDH deck. It makes me shudder… it would have saved him here…

  • @InfinityRift7
    @InfinityRift7 23 дні тому +1

    I miss Ryan's voice, but this narration is also very clean! Quite a few missed triggers in this game, but it happens in games. Maybe have more consistent stack visuals for missed triggers in the future?

  • @botmoonky1
    @botmoonky1 23 дні тому +4

    loving this editing style

  • @brycebradeen9538
    @brycebradeen9538 23 дні тому +4

    What a fun game! Thanks for the content and getting me into CEDH!

  • @simonpark6889
    @simonpark6889 22 дні тому

    I like how humble you guys are, both makers and viewers. We understand the work behind and we love your content!
    I had one small question about the choice Alana did when she pitched her best spell in the deck towards these decks on her Chrome Mox at turn 2. Seeing that the turn cycle after that fills the board even more with creatures. This is not a turbo Naus game, so that board wipe could have put her in a great spot.

  • @namesubjecttochange7781
    @namesubjecttochange7781 23 дні тому +4

    4:00 missed the Talion

  • @thmsdrew
    @thmsdrew 23 дні тому +1

    Need y'all to start pumping this content out, I need more!

  • @aiden1270
    @aiden1270 23 дні тому +9

    Saw Chatterfang and immediately clicked.

    • @thedoctor1471
      @thedoctor1471 23 дні тому

      Then I saw it's a zero squirrel/aristocratic deck; and I didn't understand, If you don't use its abilities why not play Nath or Dina or Gyome or Glissa ? The only reason to favour Chatty is because he can squirrel loop.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 23 дні тому

    Possibly dumb question, but can't Chatterfang be activated with X = 0, only paying the black mana, just for the sake of targeting the Phantasmal Talion?

  • @veganpork7601
    @veganpork7601 23 дні тому +1

    4:47 wouldn't the deathrite trigger alana's talion as well since it has toughness 2?

  • @maxfawcett143
    @maxfawcett143 22 дні тому

    It's so wild that with that many cards Talion didn't have an answer to Invasion of Ikoria

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 23 дні тому +7

    dang the bots goin crazy in the comments on this one XD

  • @combxt2044
    @combxt2044 23 дні тому

    good work and great job, no matter what ill watch the videos as i like just seeing cedh played quickly, i do miss the OG voice of playing with power. this guy did do a good job not discrediting!

  • @il-jumpermt7577
    @il-jumpermt7577 23 дні тому +2

    Shouldn't 1/2 trigger both talion? (Dockside, Deathrite)

  • @Flyboy245
    @Flyboy245 23 дні тому +2

    Was excited to see a Roxanne list, especially cedh. I’ve seen a lot of of cool decks, and it was surprising, cause I didn’t expect it to be that good. Kinda got stepped on unfortunately

    • @V2ULTRAKill
      @V2ULTRAKill 5 днів тому +1

      Roxanne is in fact, one of, if not the best gruul commander
      This game was just rough

    • @Flyboy245
      @Flyboy245 5 днів тому

      @@V2ULTRAKill good to know. I’m excited to see more of her play

    • @V2ULTRAKill
      @V2ULTRAKill 5 днів тому +1

      @@Flyboy245 she recently topped a Massachusetts tournament
      Shes got legs for sure

    • @Flyboy245
      @Flyboy245 5 днів тому

      @@V2ULTRAKill unfortunately I’m not super up on who’s winning what. Most of my cedh comes from this channel. I don’t have a big group to play with. But that’s awesome

  • @JonathanHecht
    @JonathanHecht 23 дні тому +4

    i am imressed by running phyrexian metamorph as a recruiterable clone for the one ring

    • @franslair2199
      @franslair2199 23 дні тому

      That's like the main reason phyrexian is run in cedh

  • @kylecarson3318
    @kylecarson3318 23 дні тому +2

    John’s deck is awesome.

  • @aharyaechoredshining3541
    @aharyaechoredshining3541 19 днів тому

    i wanna play cedh so how do i get into tournaments and or groups please help me do that😊

  • @bryantan4228
    @bryantan4228 23 дні тому +1

    4:00 Wait why doesn’t Phantasmal Image not trigger Talion? Ashani is literally looking at Talion as he casts it so he wouldn’t miss the trigger right

    • @AdmiralVortex
      @AdmiralVortex 22 дні тому

      Three Talion triggers were missed this game

    • @bryantan4228
      @bryantan4228 22 дні тому +1

      @@AdmiralVortex Missing a Talion trigger while looking directly at a Talion is something else :D

  • @DayOfCasual
    @DayOfCasual 22 дні тому

    It's classic on this channel when someone whips out a new Commander for CEDH that he gets absolutedly dumpstered and does nothing for whole ass game. I was just thinking of building Roxanne so I am quite sad this is how it went again.

  • @ianwhite7246
    @ianwhite7246 23 дні тому

    You should do videos on gameplay tips. I think it could especially be helpful for players looking to make say better deals or curry favor.

    • @connorl0204
      @connorl0204 23 дні тому

      Theres kind of a series of that in progress on the channel already! Their “mystical teachings” series of shorts is all about trying to level up your cedh game, but its more focused on concrete things like nice card interactions and even more niche rulings than abstract things like table politics. Though it may not be what youre looking for exactly, i still highly recommend checking it out if you havent yet. Zeb also narrates those videos as well.

  • @Whothegoat671
    @Whothegoat671 23 дні тому

    Finally an upload

  • @Alexander-rk4cu
    @Alexander-rk4cu 23 дні тому

    great episode, and Ashani went out in a great way, by drawing a shit ton of cards.

  • @thisandablunt
    @thisandablunt 23 дні тому

    Very nice win, love to see ashani's lightning bolt exiled 👏

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 23 дні тому +1

    Ehat happened to the slaughter pact?

    • @Yasmat25y
      @Yasmat25y 23 дні тому

      Alana forgot about paying for it, drew a card, and lost the game. The rest of the table also forgot about it.

    • @ColinRichardsonMUSIC
      @ColinRichardsonMUSIC 23 дні тому

      9:25 Alana forgot to pay for it. Ashani pointed it out, placing the missed trigger on the stack when it was more convenient to him

    • @connorl0204
      @connorl0204 23 дні тому

      Diabolical of ashani to point it out right before he was trying to do something worth interacting with knowing she was the only blue player at the table and had some open mana. Im not saying it was a crappy move on his part or anything, it was actually really smart if he was biding his time waiting for it.

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 23 дні тому

    Poor Philip. That was like a 3 person pod. GG tho! ❤❤❤

  • @sharifmousa2735
    @sharifmousa2735 23 дні тому +3

    Please post more

  • @keithdiaz6147
    @keithdiaz6147 23 дні тому

    It’s almost as if Talion only triggers on mana value and not on power and toughness as well lol

  • @stargravezero953
    @stargravezero953 23 дні тому +1

    At 7:30, why did Alana's Talion die?

    • @jatterjite
      @jatterjite 23 дні тому +1

      Unfortunately it got missed in the narration, but one squirrel token was sacked to target Ashanis Phimage Talion, and the second squirrel token was sacked to kill Alanas since it already had 3 damage marked on it from combat. Chatterfang killed them both.

    • @stargravezero953
      @stargravezero953 22 дні тому +1

      @@jatterjite Thank you

  • @diegorezi5760
    @diegorezi5760 22 дні тому

    I consider withbloom a very weak combo, but is inpressive the nunber of players getting some win with that ..as one of my friends always says "commander is not the best who wins, but the last standing man"

  • @WayneyMTG
    @WayneyMTG 23 дні тому +1

    Great game

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 23 дні тому +1

    Dockside and Deathrite should've triggered BOTH Talions.

  • @PaulissVegan
    @PaulissVegan 23 дні тому +1

    missed the very first Talion trigger as well... come on

  • @joefekete4384
    @joefekete4384 23 дні тому +1

    Wow, what a game

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 23 дні тому

    Id like to preface this by saying i have no qualms with the different narrator:
    The guy sounds like hes trying to “find out next time on dragon ball z” but enunciates clearly and keeps a good tempo. Good stuff, i just thought it was a little funny

  • @zipkick4883
    @zipkick4883 23 дні тому

    Ah my daily reminder of MTG power creep, can't wait for the next one.

  • @JLH111176
    @JLH111176 23 дні тому +1

    Slaughter Pact is it against the rules to place a token/dice on top of library so you don't forget. Could the other players say you not pay for it you lose the game or are you required to pay for it if possible so if you forget have to undo your turn up to that point ?

    • @maggiek8616
      @maggiek8616 23 дні тому

      With detrimental missed triggers like Pacts I believe they get placed upon the stack once someone realizes if it's been too long to rewind.
      If the owner of the trigger can't pay they lose the game then.

    • @boricua536
      @boricua536 23 дні тому +1

      There was a rule against it, but it was removed when the pacts were printed, and is now allowed (I think it's section 3.8 of Tournament rules).
      As for missing the trigger, it depends on the group you're playing with. I've been on the end of both scenarios.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos 23 дні тому

    Awesome game o/

  • @LLarrealM
    @LLarrealM 23 дні тому

    Chatterfand can win earlier if the player try to play Pitiless Plunderer + Blood Artist or Zulaport Cutthrout combo, I don't know why play the chain of smog combo that take to long to built

  • @frozentyphoon2049
    @frozentyphoon2049 23 дні тому +1

    ROOOOOOXXXXXXXANNNNNEEE

  • @grim7896
    @grim7896 22 дні тому

    Honestly, I prefer Ryan doing the narration. Whoever did it this time almost sounds like an ai.

  • @mijiui22
    @mijiui22 23 дні тому

    Yooo

  • @raleldor
    @raleldor 23 дні тому +1

    So many missed Talion triggers

  • @argoz91
    @argoz91 23 дні тому +1

    Wtf with the bots 😂

  • @Donny-G
    @Donny-G 23 дні тому +3

    Best magic announcer on UA-cam

  • @ettoresimonetto6056
    @ettoresimonetto6056 15 днів тому

    I want the old voice😢

  • @TokuHer0
    @TokuHer0 23 дні тому

    Good job narrating this episode! If I could offer some other feedback: The card animations are phenomenal, but I think the card's are slightly too big right now which makes for the stacking effects and tracking triggers a little tricky (especially if the stack gets larger). maybe there's a happy medium between the old card sizes and the current one?
    Great job on the episode either way!

  • @TheGrifcannon22
    @TheGrifcannon22 23 дні тому

    Ponjify

  • @dimitriosdoulgeris4659
    @dimitriosdoulgeris4659 23 дні тому

    Do the "I am a simple man" jokes ever get boring?
    Nah, I don't care. Let's go watch the video.

  • @jerrickalsteen3950
    @jerrickalsteen3950 11 днів тому

    Holy AI voice! Please tell me I’m overthinking this…🤨

  • @kevin171994
    @kevin171994 22 дні тому

    Chain of smog is such a boring combo

  • @notimeleft1
    @notimeleft1 23 дні тому +3

    Phillip was hosed while Alana and Ashani hated on each other giving John the cover he needed to sneak a win lol

    • @Xhadp
      @Xhadp 23 дні тому +2

      How was that sneaking in a win? He had the biggest board presence and dealing with threats left and right. Surely the other two weren't oblivious to his card draw and seeing what got discarded off of professor Onyx indicating he had a bigger threat in his hand.
      Agreed about Phillip though, man they got hosed and mainly just acted a beatstick for Ashani most of the game.

  • @rawruwu7862
    @rawruwu7862 23 дні тому

    I miss the fat stacks.....

  • @WokedOx
    @WokedOx 22 дні тому

    I understand its content creator cedh but alana should just be dead, you missed your pact trigger.

    • @AdmiralVortex
      @AdmiralVortex 22 дні тому

      They changed the ruling, the table now decides whether to put it on the stack

    • @WokedOx
      @WokedOx 22 дні тому

      @@AdmiralVortex like PwP changed the ruling? Just making sure because if they did I get it

    • @AdmiralVortex
      @AdmiralVortex 22 дні тому

      @@WokedOx No, WotC did

    • @WokedOx
      @WokedOx 22 дні тому

      @@AdmiralVortex ah didnt know that, stupid change lol

  • @CoffeeKen
    @CoffeeKen 21 день тому

    So where's Ryan? I miss his voice 😢

  • @Ash-dp9wo
    @Ash-dp9wo 23 дні тому

    9:24 , Alanna shouldn't have to pay for the slaughter pact trigger because the entire table missed it during her upkeep. She does not need to pay for it during Ashani's turn because she forgot to on her upkeep

    • @ColinRichardsonMUSIC
      @ColinRichardsonMUSIC 23 дні тому +2

      They handled it as correctly as they could have. Alana missed a detrimental trigger, Ashani pointed it out when it would've been more convenient. It's not the table's responsibility to remember your trigger

  • @jeffhardyrules1w
    @jeffhardyrules1w 23 дні тому

    Why did you change the narrator :(

  • @aept208
    @aept208 21 день тому

    Great narration but I miss Ryan

  • @zipadoo1
    @zipadoo1 23 дні тому

    I prefer Ryan, ngl

  • @murdermastodon7469
    @murdermastodon7469 23 дні тому

    Was that an AI voice…?

  • @blakemcconnell6213
    @blakemcconnell6213 23 дні тому +1

    This new ai narrator is getting better lol

    • @orangegrouproduction
      @orangegrouproduction 23 дні тому

      I'm glad you pointed this out; I thought I was losing my mind, but it pronounces some of the card names, like Basalt, in a very interesting way.

  • @ZethusSuen
    @ZethusSuen 23 дні тому

    I feel attacked by the pronunciation of golgari

  • @Myriadoffrogs
    @Myriadoffrogs 23 дні тому

    I don't mind the new narrator, but I do hope he gets a better microphone soon since this quality does tend to keep me away from these kinds of videos

  • @shinrsc
    @shinrsc 23 дні тому

    Ryan is better

  • @SubSonicEctomorph
    @SubSonicEctomorph 22 дні тому +1

    Ryan, I’m sorry you have to choose between having a life and this channel. The other guy is fine, but……..

  • @kaasham8871
    @kaasham8871 23 дні тому +1

    i hate all the random proxy arts, so annoying. just use a real art..

  • @franslair2199
    @franslair2199 23 дні тому

    Narration is okay but please get a better microphone, it's grating.

  • @joshlin8002
    @joshlin8002 23 дні тому +1

    Really dont like the narrator

  • @adamcallanan5929
    @adamcallanan5929 23 дні тому +1

    The narration is so sterile and stilted that it sounds like AI. I couldn't listen to it for more than a couple of minutes.

  • @benkristendotcom
    @benkristendotcom 23 дні тому

    Does T2 Ashani's Springleaf Drum activation on his Phantasmal Image copy of Talion not force him to sacrifice his copy of Talion?

  • @ettoresimonetto6056
    @ettoresimonetto6056 15 днів тому

    I want the old voice😢