Regardless what anyone says, ciara has maintained longevity, loved internationally and is doing just fine without black america, with little promotion her new music is going gold and platinum. Proud of her
@@lamontjohnson5810 because that's where she received the most amount of hate, she does incredibly well in Africa and has toured many times, she's also just generally well received globally compared to black America.
This is ignorant because a lot of black people liked her. She also had beef with Riri and of course the misogyny of the industry is where they tried to bury her.
Listen....Ciara seems to have accomplished all of her life goals so far. I never understood the hate she gets but there are still millions, including myself, that are fans & appreciate her contributions to music & dance. She's still winning imo!
I think because she was a contender with Bet and Rih people were expecting more out of her but I honestly just appreciated her. I hate that she had to answer to the industry about being a “flop” because I still love her stuff like that new song with Chris
She's always been hated and overlooked, I've always thought it was jealousy! Like the she a dude mess from back in the day, people just hated that she was so effortlessly gorgeous.
@@Cameron-wi9io That’s what they all do. That’s what the PR and Publicists are for. The paparazzi aren’t psychic. None of it is random for any of them.
At the end of the day, she's living her best life with the family she's created with Russell Wilson. Not to mention, she's already got a lot of classics under her belt.
@@AlwonDomzShe didn't create a family with Future. She had a child by him. Having a family and having a child are two different things. She has a FAMILY with her husband
@@AlwonDomzcompared to Russell he ain't in Russ's hemisphere Russ income is stomping with the big dogs Future's just clapping with some random puppies🥴
So basically Ciara has always been an underdog and yet the black community love to pretend as if they were supporting her since she first came out. Poor Ciara I am so happy she was given an amazing man. Respectfully deserved!
They only want to support a black woman when it’s time to hate Beyoncé & Rihanna. It’s not that hard to actually support an artist that you love and genuinely like
Not sure how you deducted she was always an underdog from this? I grew up with her and the video explains that upon her entry, she was welcomed, overall. Just life happens to everyone and how you respond colors where you land.
I disagree. I grew up on Ciara. I remember when goodies wasn’t on TV & radio yet & only on “RealPlayer.” In the early 2000s. I also remember EVERY girl loving her & her music regardless of the rude jokes that every celebrity deals with, from goodies till now. Every single she made was on 106&park. Ciara wasn’t no flop like Christina milian or somebody. She was always a star since day one in her own lane. She was different. Still is. A true hit maker. Literally.
Girl you know a lot of the black community is miserable as fuck. I realized that we do this with a lot of our artists later on when everyone, at the time that they came out, was bumping to the music. Bow Wow is another example. He may be corny and he may be annoying, but when people start dragging his career I’m like…but all of us…were listening to him though…🥴
Ciara wasn’t a flop in my eyes. but should’ve been way bigger and given her flowers . She can dance her ass off. She’s the best female dancer in the industry now and then. Shorty got that footwork down Pat. I say her and Chris brown are twins signing and dancing with exquisite footwork.
Her net worth is is only $20 million dollars. That's not bad but it could be a lot higher in 20 million. She should be least worth between 70 to least 95 million because of her singing acting dancing skills. No she might not had a hit song in a while , or sign to a major label anymore but she deserves her fuckin flowers damnit.
She came at a time when you had to have a great singing voice. She’d do great in today’s musical world because a good singing voice is no longer required to be a great singer.
I don't understand why she gets hate. I like her story. I like that she went from negative to positive and she leveled up in all kids of ways. I can't stress enough how much I like hearing about her story. Imagine going from a serial dater, serial impregnator, to a man who loves her, protects her, honors her, and is loyal to her. PHEW! shes one blessed woman and I want a story similar to hers.
I believe people hate her for that exact reason. She avoided being stuck, trapped with a dusty bandit. They resent her for showing women that there is better and you can do better. By the way, I never thought or personally know anyone else who thought she was a man.
It’s almost like they expect her to fail!!! She did 1000 percent better and look happier since Russel. I’m telling you our own race of people can be toxic as well!! Black men seemed mad that she got with a better guy. They expected her not to find better. It’s sad how black women are perceived and treated by our own race!!
At the end of the day a music artist is considered "conventionally successful" when they're able to connect with an audience, when they give us hits. Ciara has sold 55 Million records WW has given us hits for several decades at this point. She has at least one platinum song on all 7 of her albums. Her latest single How We Roll is Top 10 on Urban and Rhythmic radio. If that's not longevity IDK what is.
Yup🔥👏👏👏👏 she does not have to be seen as the greatest of her generation to be successful. That comes with its own stressors lol I think ppl get frustrated because they see she had the potential to be as big as Janet but she didn't quite make it there. That's still ok tho. She's doing well.
@@coreybrownCYoBrown Yeah, Ciara was never an industry favorite so even when she was in her prime label execs never believed in her vision. She never gave up her soul and still became an icon. do ya thang, CI!
The ONE thing I think U FAILED 2 mention is Her “Beef” with RiRi….That was a HUGE part of the Blackball!!! It started over a comment Ciara Made regarding RiRi NOT being so nice when She saw Her at an Event Ciara’s Tweet: “Trust me Rhianna u dont want to see me on or off the stage." Rihanna’s Tweet: "U gangsta huh? Haaa...Good luck with bookin that stage u speak of."😅
Ciara was already getting blackballed before this beef. Her losing favor in the industry is the reason why Rihanna (who is a sl@ve to the industry) dissed her at the party Ciara referenced on fashion police. Yall be so ignorant on everything tryna educate people, please stay in yo lane
Now, that is unheard of in the music industry. They basically said to her: "take your trashy music away from here!" 🤣 (I don't believe she is trash btw) Considering the amount of production money they spended on her sound and visuals (her shit looked fancy) and the records she sold in return, you can see she wasn't really profitable for them; but it is still crazy that they just handed to her the masters back 😂
Her record label did her so dirty. I can't believe they basically told her that her music career is a flop. they gave her masters for free. thats a slap in the face no? She's such a strong humble woman to this day. All love to CiCi.
As a Ciara fan, Future is misogynistic trash however I ain't gone lie, he really helped revive Ciara's ATL sound with that 2013 album. It sounded like it could've been her 3rd album after The Evolution. I give him credit for that.
he might've helped her pick radio-friendly songs to go on the album, but you must know, as a Ciara fan, Body Party initially came from the minds of Ciara herself and Jasper Cameron. They laid down the foundation of that record and then Past and Mike-Wont-Make-it came in later to give her the My Boo sampled beat and new hook.
@CiaraContent Future still had assistance on Body Party, I'm giving him credit for his part. In the past (Basic Instinct album), Ciara tried to return to her ATL sound but it fell flat. With Future assistance on the self-titled album, his input really made a difference.
@@TheMelody15 Basic Instinct track listing was not Ciara's doing. Jive, who went defunct after Basic Instinct, forced Ciara to leave off some of the best material she had recorded during those sessions. She had bangers like Blauw, Gifted, Listen To My Song, This Is What Love Is, I Don't Care, Shut Em Up, Flaws & All which all were radio friendly potential hits. Those record execs were sabotaging Ciara from all fronts. Future doesn't deserve hardly any credit. The biggest song from that era is a song that would've never come together had Ciara and Jasper not started writing on it.
@CiaraContent Blauw & This Is What Love Is sound like Fantasy Ride throwaways. Gift and Listen To My Song are pretty good tracks but aren't hits. I Don't Care is the weakest, definitely needed to be left off. Shut Em Up and Flaws & All definitely should've been on Basic Instinct. What I am trying to say is Future's assistance helped Ciara back in 2013 (not taking away her contributions)
@@TheMelody15 I've never heard a Ciara fan diss the radio smash that Blauw coulda been. Have you heard it recently? That was a crossover hit waiting to happen. & then you don't like I Don't Care? but you think Flaws coulda did something? I feel like IDC would've been huge for her, way more than Flaws.
Going the pop route after her 2nd album was a huge mistake... Ciara's fanbase didn't want that style of music from her and it showed in how poorly Fantasy Ride sold...The Crunk&B sound was all hers and she abandoned it early
The only pop single to come from that era was Love Sex Magic and it was the most successful song released from that project. All of her other singles were Urban and they weren't being supported heavily by Urban radio because the music industry was not playing a fair game with Ciara
@@CiaraContentexactly. She has several pop hits but Jive went thru a merger during that time and became RCA. Ci lost the people in the building that signed her and really believed in her
People were acting like supermodels were are not as tall or muscular as Ciara or even taller. I don’t get how people can mistaken her for a dude. That never made any sense. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
It never made since to me either. She has always looked feminine to me. They couldn't find anything bad about her to say, so they made up rumors which sucks. She didn't deserve it and I never believed it. She handled that scandal with grace.
honestly black people are very very closed minded even more closed minded then, most didn’t even actually pay attention to supermodels unless it’s Naomi Campbell
I can't claim to be a Ciara fan but I love her biggest hits. She had the looks, the talent and a massive start to her career. Imo she just lacked some identity to her image like Beyonce and Rihanna, which goes a long way into building a solid fanbase. Modeling would've really suited her because she has that VS type of body. Still I'm really happy that she's found real love and happiness with Russell. Their relationship reminds me there's still hope for me 😂❤
She should definitely got into modeling she had and has the look, the body, and the height. I’m so shocked she never did. And she should’ve became a professional dancer
i feel the same exact way. i enjoyed her top singles but i still don’t feel drawn to her simply cause i don’t really know what makes her stand out? i think her branding as a singer could be tightened up to better communicate that.
I love Ciara so much. Rihanna, Beyonce and Ciara will always be my top 3 favorite artists of all time. I don't like what happened to Ciara throughout her music career, but she is still an inspiration. Her growth, resilience and determination always makes me have flames of hope that will never burn out. Thank you Ciara for everything and continue to keep doing your thang ❤️💖❤️💖❤️
I fell like her going into the alter ego thing was bad because everyone was doing it and it seemed unnatural for her and it may have seemed cringy I don’t know why others got away from it but yea
I think the idea was great for the time. It’s was probably just the branding of her alter ego. It’s was to “kiddie” ie, Beyoncé has Sasha Fierce. Super C was very cringy. She should’ve went with her nick name “CiCi” or something that could resonate with the young adult /adult audience
You def deserve more follows for your vids. Ciara’s rise and fall is interesting. It’s sad that they gaaaave Ciara her masters like… artist don’t get that chance. It showed how much faith they didn’t have. That’s crazy.
@@Ceetv.Clarissa is it possible you consider re-naming the video? the content of the video is not reflective of the title. Can you rename it to something more respectful?
I wish I would have "flopped" Ciara style - mrs. is rich, gorgeous, has a beautiful family of her own PLUS the cherry on top - Future acknowledged indirectly his loss lol, good for you sis
Completely unrelated to the overall topic, but it’s crazy to me that they gave Ciara her masters for FREE while they were keeping Taylor Swift’s masters under lock and key like it was in Alcatraz. It just goes to show that record labels will often work against you at times, and give your art away for free if they don’t believe in it, or won’t give you the rights to it at all when they know it’s extremely valuable.
@@TheeJayMac0214That part. Ciara didn’t sell her soul. There’s more to Ciara than just music. She is a phenomenal woman…wife, mother, model, philanthropist, an amazing host, speaker, engaging, beautiful personality. She has it all. She seems to have an amazing life. She’s not a slave to the music industry.
@@RG-cw8yg you're right and I have so much respect for Ciara. She talented, smart and classy who never degraded herself to make it to the top. So proud of her for taking matters into her own hands and became in control of her career/future 😊.
I have every Ciara album. This woman is what talent is. You never hear about her screwing anyone over. About her being part of the illuminati. Going to industry "parties". You don't see her bashing other artist. There is always a light around her. Seems like a great mother. Has a great husband. Other than Janet, no female artist touches her on stage. I dont think the Jazzy Phae situation hurt her. I also dont think Future helped her. Other hip hop producers have worked with her and it was cool. I think her changing her sound hasnt worked. Even "How We Roll" with CB wasn't it. Crunk&B isnt a thing anymore but R&B is. She need to get back to that Promise, Body Party and Ride types of songs. Thats what we need from her. Her performances hasn't lost a beat.
The “illuminati” stuff isn’t real for anybody. It’s just something losers on the internet say about VERY successful black artists. So her not being linked with that isn’t really saying much. But she did have public beef with Rihanna via Twitter where they both bashed each other.
"How We Roll" is in the exact lane of Promise, Ride, & Body Party 🤔😒 It is literally her biggest Billboard hit since Body Party 💁🏾♂️ Its currently Top 10 on Billboards R&B/hip hop airplay chart
Ciara is just fine!!! It seems it's mostly our own community that's always putting each other down...smh...I'm so happy she seems to be doing well and HAPPY...I wish her well
This part!!! Why make a vid like this with that title? And compile all the negativity in her life? I’m sure Shakespeare was able to take some breaks and put out some less popular stuff without getting called a flop. Achievements are cumulative The energy behind this is weird and judgmental. She could’ve framed this same information as a vid of all of Ciara’s triumphs This is why it doesn’t pay to be famous fr. your life becomes public property for people like this to comment on unprovoked
I think Ciara and Russel are so blessed as a unit is because they waited before they got married. They were friends first. God wrote her love story so beautiful.
They were MADE exactly for each other, look at what Russell is going through right now with his career and Team, the sabotage, the lack of support, down playing of his contributions, accomplishments and talents, it’s the SAME thing Ciara has had to face in her entire career, it’s like they are ying and yang. No wonder they click and hold each other down so much, beautiful couple ❤
We need a study done on why our multi-talents die out faster than the just-singers. Ciara, omarion, jacob latimore, prodigy, these are world class entertainers who could light any stage right now. and the multi-talents who are still relevant have contemporaries who are bigger than they are who only sing i see it in the sports world too, fans in soccer & the nba seem to like the pure scorer more than the guy that can do multiple things elite
My theory is that people with multiple talents (triple threat type of people) are harder to control. They have too much talent and creativity to be put into a box as a one trick pony. Whereas the one talent pony only has one chanel to showcase themselves and therefore are insecure and out of desperation allow themselves to be controlled. It also depends on the connections you have in the industry. Look at Miley Cyrus. Her father is a country singer, her god mother is a super star. Dolly Parton even own theme parks in Tennessee. Miley is very talented but also had people already in the industry behind her.
I think it has to with these multi talent people not excelling at anything. Like they can do all these things but they’re not the greatest at it. Like Taylor has her writing, Ariana has her voice, bey has her performances, even someone like jlo can actually dance. A lot of the people you named aren’t a master at any one thing, they might be good at it but there’s someone better at the same time. Ntm outside factors like hit potential, marketability, label backing, consistency, etc.
CiCi deserves so much more love and respect! Everytime I see her perform live I am simply baffled that she isn't treated in the same way the artists like Bey and Rihanna are. She has hits and she has so much talent! Nobody dances like Ciara! I hope she gets another number 1 album and more recognition!
We as black people always got to be negative towards each other. We have nothing to do with her personal life. People need to mind their business. I like Ciara music. Wish she got more recognition. Glad she’s happy that’s all that matters. Be blessed C.
Sold 45 million records, thats how we roll debut at what number 3/ on two separate charts, own publishing and 9 top ten hits is a failure? Wtf😂😂😂 Almost 20 years later. What do yall call successful?
Compared to her peers like Rihanna, she's underrated. She's even been dropped by her record labels for poor album sales, rarely tours overseas because she's not so popular! She's compared to the likes of Kelly Rowland!
@@diamondseries7221 Kelly hasn't sold half of what Ciara sold. Kelly doesn't even have a hit what are you saying?😂😂 Everyone isn't B and Rhianna but Ciara has definitely made waves. She's still out here!
@@missmusicalpsychic7421 Kelly and Ciara are besties! Both have sold about 40 million records, won one Grammy each and both have at least one stand out track on each album. Kelly is even better because she's from Destiny's Child
Ciara's albums aren't really flops considering she has gold/platinum certification from each project. A lot of the women who came out when she came out don't even have that
If you ask me between her more successful counterparts namely Beyoncé and Rihanna.. Ciara actually is the biggest winner socially. Her husband is not connected to wild accusations with underage girls, possible outside children from his d__g running days, or facing criminal charges from stupid decisions. She found a good man in every way with no negative publicity or baggage. I love that for her
That part. Ciara didn’t sell her soul. There’s more to Ciara than just music. She is a phenomenal woman…wife, mother, model, philanthropist, an amazing host, speaker, engaging, beautiful personality. She has it all. She seems to have an amazing life. She’s not a slave to the music industry. I’d much rather have Ciara’s success over Beyoncé and Rihanna. Ciara is simply winning in life.
I haven’t cared for any of Ciara’s music ever since she went independent and started having this pop generic sound. She was so much better in her Goodies and Promise days. I even loved her song with Crime Mob called “So What”. I wish she could get back on track. Her first album was everything but It seems she’s happy now with her kids and husband. ❤
ciara's pop girl era with super ci was great, her label literally just did not green light her to execute it. u can hear that alter ego very clearly on certain tracks of fantasy ride. she sounds more sassier, confident and powerful - along with evolution - those are ciara's best album eras. to sum it up - ciara's career is an example of how it is a must for a record label to truely believe in their artist & commit to them and if they didnt, sadly this is the outcome. times have thankfully changed - but ciara's story shows how the time for musicians and potential careers has changed. she deserves her flowers and i am genuinely in awe of her and how much she has been able to deal with. truely an unbreakable and powerful woman
Ciara’s success seemed more like pure luck than anything else. She came out the hugely successful crunk era and had super producers behind her. She also filled the gap left by Aaliyah, being a performer whose powerful dancing made up for a not so stellar vocal talent. Ciara is a product of an era in R&B and is not a standalone talent that can evolve with the times.
this doesn't make sense since Ciara has plenty of hits outside of crunk music. yall tried to put that label on her and she fought against it very successfully. Ciara can't evolve with the times? Then how was she able to sample a sound on vine and turn it into the double platinum hit that is Level Up? That song came out 14 years after her debut. that is not luck. That is a hard working artists who has talent. Yall have no talent at all in any facet of business and yall want other people to sit in the same seat as yall. It aint happening with Ci
@@tamaramlindi Britney's, Janet's and a slew of other dancing divas didn't have operatic, church like vocals. There is more to artistry than being a powerhouse singer. Let's be serious
@@CiaraContentWell stated. Rihanna’s vocals aren’t great. Yet, she’s been overhyped throughout her career and people stay begging for her to release another album.
It's crazy that her video was banned. Nowadays, the videos we see on TV used to only show late night on uncut. I mean, that video didn't have cheeks out or anything.
There’s conflicting stories about that - apparently bet asked the team to make some changes to the video, nothing was done and so they refused to play it. Ciara tried to play it up like it was banned in order to create some buzz cause the rest of the album was flopping 🤷♀️
I met Ciara on a movie set in 2011. It’s funny because I didn’t know it was her at first and she was so humble and talented. Still is! God bless her! 🙏🏼❤️
I love how most of the comments are coming to Ciara defense for the life of me I will not understand the constant hate and disrespect she gets it’s disheartening when it come from our community been a Ciara fan since day one best dancer hands down just seen a video of comparing Keri hilson career to Ciara and I couldn’t even take it seriously
It’s disgusting people made that rumour up about her. Some people are so mean spirited. And if she went and got a bunch of surgery they woulda clowned her too. I enjoy her older stuff not so much her newer stuff but I respect her as an artist
I think the difference between Rih and Ciara is that Rihanna was more versatile from the start. Rihanna released Pon De Replay, SOS and Unfaithful in less then 1,5/2 years. That’s already so much versatility and that made her different from all those other girls. Those other girls were still doing the same sound and things.
She ain’t write her music, the others did. Anybody can pick versatile songs when all you gotta do is listen to them and sing them like the others wrote for you
@@msawmusic She wrote not all of them but later she did but at the end of the day she is the most successful here so clearly no one gave two shits about those writing credits except for you and the 3 people that liked your comment
@@msawmusic and one thing you can’t deny is that Rihanna knows how to deliver a song even tho she didn’t wrote it. You can write whatever you want but if you can’t carry the song then it’s pretty useless. She DELIVERED Love the way you lie, Love on the brain, Kiss it better, Rehab, Russian Roulette and all the other hits she had. But it speaks for itself
@@RihannaChristina I will never deny it, but let’s not act like it’s not easier to deliver a song a producer and writer already figured out for you than to create from scratch. Hence why Rihanna doesn’t own her masters and Ciara does.
To even address a rumor as silly as this lady possibly being a guy is very in my opinion disrespectful. The media commonly makes claims about black women being male. That tidbit has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on her career or lack there of. We are our own worst enemy @Clarissa. C
The hold Ciara had on me as a young teen was crazy, loved her music, played her albums, thought she was so graceful yet with a cool edginess to her Plus her dancing 😫😍 She’s such a great entertainer ❤
I loved her first two albums like the majority of the public. After her second album, it was like she became a "singles" artist meaning you like certain singles not the album. When BP was released, I bought a Ciara album for the first time since TE. It's great that she found happiness.
6:00 nowadays Ciara probably would’ve felt pressured to get a bbl early on in her career. It’s sad that Ciara didn’t reach the level of someone like Rihanna. Reminds me of Victoria Monèt. So talented yet underrated.
2024 Can't believe it's been 20 Years Since CiCi Impressed the World 🌎 with her Sweet Voice, Dance Skills, and Stage Presence. She reminds me of Both Janet and Aaliyah(R.I.P.)and All 3 got the Best Abs I ever seen 😅, I Wish All 3 Could've Collaborated like Whitney(R.I.P.), Faith Evans, and Kelly Price did on the song "Heartbreak Hotel". Also, I Can't believe it's been 20 Years Since her Freshman Album "Goodies". Time Flying Definitely 🕊️🕊️ CiCi Deserves her Flowers 🌹🌹. Certified Legend and a Certified Baddie 😍. Keep Doing these videos Queen 👑.
I got mad love for Cici aka Super C. I think her albums are underrated, and given time to sit and listen to each one of them, people would realize their are some hidden gems on each of them. The 1st track off the Fantasy Ride album is 🔥 to me. And the Jackie(BMF) track on the Jackie album is fire too.
Ciara’s story is very similar to what's conceptually going on with Chloe Bailey. For me, Ciara’s legacy was compromised by the clash between persona, aesthetics, authenticity, and the Internet. Ciara’a original sound, Crunk & R&B matched her aesthetic. Then as all artists do, Ci had to decide how she would evolve to expand her reach and longevity. This transition also happened as the Internet was encouraging stars to share more about themselves as people versus letting their talent speak. I distinctly remember when the public grew annoyed with Ciara for becoming more of a socialite and becoming the friend of Kim K, along with Lala. That's the Super Ci era. This happened around the time Ciara was exploring the road of going pop/ leaning into the Janet vibe. She had to define a lane that could keep the black audience while getting more white people to support her. This then created a huge issue around authenticity. I think she should have perfected the pop sound and stayed the course. Sex Live and Magic was a moment. Ciara just needed to perfect the sound and had to figure out how to take that vibe throughout an album. Because she had room to improve, many fans were not sold on her being pop. Then when she went back to R&B. Many of us started to see more of her persona, in which it didn't match the hood/ urban vibe. Which is why many see her, to this day, as corny. This is the Chloe correlation. Chloe energetically feels more like a good girl but presents a sexy, bad girl image. Ciara introduced us to her as this cool hood adjacent good girl but then went Janet but then back to sexy hood adjacent girl.. But talked like a valley girl.. Smh just too much lol Then yes, the situation with Future had many men stop supporting her. However, with tenacity, Ciara turned that breakdown into triumph. This is when the GP started to accept her more good/upper-class persona. From here, she needed to and still needs to find music that matches her persona. However, her being so seasoned in the game is working against her. At this point many of us want her to have her vibe/sound figured out. Also, why are her brand/mogul decisions not amplifying her as a dancer? The decision to pursue modeling, acting, and skincare instead of fitness, dance, and or dance competition shows. Smh. Poor biz decisions have also added to the GP losing interest/removing support. All and all. She's doing well but not sure she'll be as big as her peers. That's okay. She's still successful. Not everyone is meant to be the mega superstar. She doing well and there is a place for her type of Star.
Tbh I don’t see any parallels with Chloe and Ciara story. At a very early age Ciara established her sound. Although, birthed out of a trend she’s had to learn how to adapt with the time and culture to still maintain an audience. Marketing plays a huge role in her career and because she didn’t have a strong brand it would be harder to maintain the spotlight with the likes of Rihanna and B. While Chloe on the other hand was and is both an actor and singer simultaneously. She was beginning to find her sound with her sister but completely changed her sound/identity because she’s still learning and trying to explore. I feel like during the time she separated from her sister we saw her trying to explore and find herself personally and artistically at the same time. She tried to see what would stick to get a hit by pushing out music that was more sexual/body focused because that was/is keeping her relevant and engagement. Talented nonetheless, she has yet to find her signature sound in my opinion and she just needs time to grow and mature into it and not force it because it’ll make people not connect with her at all. There stories are different in my opinion.
@@jathanblake the end of your post is what I think Chloe and Ciara share in their career experiences. Like Chloe, Ciara was trying to find her sound and lost ppl during that process. Ciara is still deeply experimenting with sonics. We still can't say this or that sounds like a Ciara song. Also, parallel and correlation aren't the same. Correlation is a bit more casual and loose when describing similarity. Chloe and Ciara aren't having overt similar experiences. I was drawing connections around the concepts pertaining to lacking authenticity/ a firmed identity that could then translate through their music. You ended up articulating it in your post. I think we're on the same page but saying it differently.
@@jathanblake and actually Ciara’s initial brand was very strong. Just that the subgenre of Crunk and B wasn't. The subgenre was so weak it doesn't exist anymore. The industry reps foresaw that being an issue. To sustain, Ciara would have had to carry that sound on her back. This is part of why she made a pivot. Also, this speaks to lack of marketing. How would they market that? I think answer was fusing it with pop. Again, think Ciara needed to perfect thst vibe. Truly embrace being a pioneer.. Ciara came out when I was a freshman in college and had a distinct lane aside from Beyonce. She was actually better off than Rihanna🔥 However, when Rihanna🔥 made her switch.. It was more authentic to who Rihanna is as a person. Rih was always pop majority.. She just changed her approach and because it was real, the world fell in love with it. In short, Ci and Chloe struggle with creating music that embodies their being. Energy is undeniable and ppl can see through trying instead of being.
@@ajollypanda4175 What I shared leaves space for Chloe to evolve. I'm just speaking to why she hasn't taken off yet, compared to her peers. I hope she still does. She's in her mid 20s. If you learns from it, time is still on her side. However, if she doesn't play her cards right, she can have a story similar to Ciara. As I shared before, life happens to us all, it's mostly about how respond. Well see how Chloe moves from this point.
To me I always felt there was a interesting comparisons to Ciara VS Rihanna and tinashe mainly Ciara and Rihanna not bc of the iconic Twitter beef they had but mainly bc of how similar their career journeys have been I think what made Rihanna stick more despite having much more disadvantages and factors working against her was she had a smart business sense of her music, fashion and entrepreneurship reminds me a lot of 80s Madonna where like Madonna knew to be on top is to be ahead of curve against everyone or standout among the crowd. When the EDM, electropop sound was booming she combined that sound with reggae, dancehall, R&B and hip hop to standout musically against Gaga, Katy, and Kesha and then when that era was finishing its peak, she did a 360 with her 2015 droplet singles era and her masterpiece Anti. Even her venture in fashion and beauty, she still went against the grain and broke down both industries, Ciara’s business idea in music was always about going wherever the wind blow, going wherever it’s popular and trendy at the moment, never taking risks or taking herself seriously as a artist, even as a dancer, she’s reminded the same, where as someone Beyoncé evolved and developed into dancing styles and techniques that Beyoncé in the 2000s wouldn’t have been able to do. For tinashe, I always envisioned her as what Ciara could’ve been if she was more serious as a artist and debuted in the social media/streaming era of music, like tinashe having all the issues she’s had with RCA of course she’s lot going to achieve chart topping superstar status but she is however well respected among her peers and has a huge International cult following fanbase I feel as a whole Ciara is a sad case of wasted potential with her music career but I’m so happy for her with her personal life amazing husband and family and has so many business ventures and deals she don’t need music no more but you can tell she still wants it
I never seen Ciara as an L she’s very known & is THAT GIRL. 👸🏽 Ciara falling of was never a thing tbh 💯 When she doesn’t drop music she stays relevant because she has multiple hits and she has a loyal fanbase. People will always fw her because of how she is as a person. Her career is not limited to music. She’s a brand within itself.
She is usually positive. But ppl love the ppl who are in drama and always in negative situations. But ciara every time she does something and shes happy all these men and some women love to hate on her
The woman can’t do anything, the minute they see her in anything, they attack her and tear her down, Glad she has strong Mentals, and a wonderful support system around her ❤ She will continue to thrive 🎉
Love Ciara, Her 3rd Album Fantasy Ride Was Mishandled & It Was A Good POP album. Some say she went POP to FAST & Some say the hanging with the Kardashians in 2009 changed her. She Addressed This In The Song You Got Me.
Also Fantasy Ride is past gold status now close to platinum status same thing for the Basic Instinct album. Which has the number one hot one hundred single Ride. And the follow up singles platinum singles Speechless and Gimmie Dat. The Ciara album has went platinum as well and double platinum singles Body Party and I’m Out.
Hear Future speak Makes me scream in laughter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 He talk like a 17 year old boy being in grown folks business 😂😂😂 Clown behavior is strong in future blood we see
I’ve honestly never perceived her as a flop until around the level up era but her beginning days were very iconic and I still listen to the old stuff these days
I think Ciara does have longevity and has made an impact in music (rnb/soul). Yes Jazze Pha produced SOME (not all) of her earlier hits: 1;2 step, Get Up, So what (field mob song that featured Ciara) and Thugstyle + Pick Up the phone from Goodies. She had worked with other producers post Jazze that give her hits for example on her second album the evolution she worked with Pharrell (I Proceed) willIAm(Get in fit in), Darkchild (Can't Leave em Alone), Polow da Don (Promise & later Never Ever on fantasy ride) and Lil Jon (Thats Right & C.R.U.S.H) The Dream &Tricky Stewart (Ride) she still was a household name during that time and tbh her popularity only declined after her second album because she was introduced as the queen of crunk&b (although she always humbly declined that title) people linked her to JUST that sound so when she crossovered audiences and became international known with the sucess of her debut most were expecting songs that song like Goodies, 1;2 step and Oh but people forget ciara is an r&b artist crunk&b is literally crunk with rnb. She has always had longevity in music period because of r&b thats why if she releases some songs that dont chart as well as others they're still staple hits like (And I, Never Ever) etc she still has has her core fan base that have been there since day 1. She has had a messy dating history with Furture & 50cent mostly but thank God he sent someone that's for her and makes her happy plus blessed her with 3 kids and loves her other child as well. Ciara is literally one of the only female artists who didn't completely crossover to pop like Beyonce (still does r&b) and rihanna (who was always pop) that still charts today and gets platinum and gold hits. I hate to do the names comparisons cause i love some of these artist too but girls that came out in Ciara's era of early/mid 00's most have stopped there (Ashanti, Nivea, Keyshia Cole, Amerie, etc) with the exception of Ashanti and Keyshia Cole both have 1 hit song each in 10's era the rest haven't even got that meanwhile Ciara has a hit every era if the album flops so she still will secure that platinum hit and now she's independent so all that money in extra residuals goes to HER. They said her career was done after Fantasy Ride but she has still secured hits in the 10's decade and is starting with the 20's 10's decade hits: 5th self-titled album- platinum (as of 2023) Ride ft Luda-platinum Body Party-double platinum Im Out- gold I Bet-platinum Level Up-platinum, double platinum (as of 2023) 20's era so far: How we roll ft Chris Brown- (not certified yet but charting and getting radioplay with 35M views on youtube) Id say ciara has has a successful music career and yes the music may not hit the same as her earlier days its because she has a mature sound now and is a mom/wife so her music isnt as sexy-sensual and hood girl as before but she can still make cute dance tempo bops and can even do more ballads she just needs to work with current producers id love to hear her with Jazze again but he hasn't did anything memorable after Cherish. Ciara has inspired many artist of the generation after her including Kehlani, Victoria Monet, Tinashe, Normani, Summer Walker just to name a few she has a special career in music where she can keep rebranding herself over and over with time and make hits as long as its R&B
I’ve never been a fan of Ciara’s even though I like some of her early 2000s stuff. But it seems odd that she doesn’t have better music or isn’t bigger. She’s beautiful, she can dance, she seems sweet as hell and her voice is just fine. Her music as of late is super forgettable and not something I’d even bother with. So hopefully she can find the right writers and producers to give her a career a real boost outside of all that goofy social media stuff she keeps doing
People thought she was a man...? See this is exactly what i mean when I say that transphobia doesn't just affect us trans people. It literally affects cisgender people also...
Regardless what anyone says, ciara has maintained longevity, loved internationally and is doing just fine without black america, with little promotion her new music is going gold and platinum. Proud of her
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Great comment but why throw black America under the bus? LOL.
@@lamontjohnson5810 because that's where she received the most amount of hate, she does incredibly well in Africa and has toured many times, she's also just generally well received globally compared to black America.
@@lamontjohnson5810 😂 right! What we do!? 😂
This is ignorant because a lot of black people liked her.
She also had beef with Riri and of course the misogyny of the industry is where they tried to bury her.
The gag is her career never flopped. Success doesn’t look the same for everyone & I love that. She’s super successful in multiple ways.
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Exactly. The title to this video is problematic and click bait-ish.
Totally agree.
THAT PART💪🏽🫶🏼🤎
That’s crazy, I can’t believe BET banned Ciara ! And then got sexy red headlining in 10 years. BET is such a joke.
Like!!!!
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They banned her????? Whaaaaaat
Thats cause BET isn’t even owned by black people 😭
They banned her?
Based on the 3 goals she wrote, she’s accomplished all of them 👏🏾 can’t erase Ciara’s mark ever
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Na not the last goal
Amen 🙌
@@MaxJulienOyou must be a future fan
Period
Listen....Ciara seems to have accomplished all of her life goals so far. I never understood the hate she gets but there are still millions, including myself, that are fans & appreciate her contributions to music & dance. She's still winning imo!
I think because she was a contender with Bet and Rih people were expecting more out of her but I honestly just appreciated her. I hate that she had to answer to the industry about being a “flop” because I still love her stuff like that new song with Chris
@@GezebellifestyleLISTEN “How We Roll” was & still is on repeat on my playlist. It’s so underrated and should’ve blown up.
She's always been hated and overlooked, I've always thought it was jealousy! Like the she a dude mess from back in the day, people just hated that she was so effortlessly gorgeous.
It’s not a competition. She’s remained in our faces and much more successful then a majority of the people from her era.
She just comes across as trying to be famous now. Like when she hires film crews to follow her around. It’s ok to not be relevant anymore
@@Cameron-wi9io That’s what they all do. That’s what the PR and Publicists are for. The paparazzi aren’t psychic. None of it is random for any of them.
Period
Exactly!!!!
@@Cameron-wi9ioyet you on HER video watching her. She’ll always be relevant thanks to people like you
The misogynoir in Ciara’s career was crazy.
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No fr
It really reaalllly was
Typical women blaming man for everything
What’s that word sounds right lol
At the end of the day, she's living her best life with the family she's created with Russell Wilson. Not to mention, she's already got a lot of classics under her belt.
She also created a family with Future too.
@@AlwonDomzShe didn't create a family with Future.
She had a child by him.
Having a family and having a child are two different things.
She has a FAMILY with her husband
Ciara, Future and their child will always be a biological family. That doesn’t stop being a fact just because…
Ciara is set for life and is educated with degrees unlike a majority of black artist in rap and r&b
@@AlwonDomzcompared to Russell he ain't in Russ's hemisphere Russ income is stomping with the big dogs Future's just clapping with some random puppies🥴
So basically Ciara has always been an underdog and yet the black community love to pretend as if they were supporting her since she first came out. Poor Ciara I am so happy she was given an amazing man. Respectfully deserved!
They only want to support a black woman when it’s time to hate Beyoncé & Rihanna. It’s not that hard to actually support an artist that you love and genuinely like
Not sure how you deducted she was always an underdog from this? I grew up with her and the video explains that upon her entry, she was welcomed, overall. Just life happens to everyone and how you respond colors where you land.
I disagree. I grew up on Ciara. I remember when goodies wasn’t on TV & radio yet & only on “RealPlayer.” In the early 2000s. I also remember EVERY girl loving her & her music regardless of the rude jokes that every celebrity deals with, from goodies till now. Every single she made was on 106&park. Ciara wasn’t no flop like Christina milian or somebody. She was always a star since day one in her own lane. She was different. Still is. A true hit maker. Literally.
Girl you know a lot of the black community is miserable as fuck. I realized that we do this with a lot of our artists later on when everyone, at the time that they came out, was bumping to the music. Bow Wow is another example. He may be corny and he may be annoying, but when people start dragging his career I’m like…but all of us…were listening to him though…🥴
@@Jessica.ShawnteYuppppp!
Ciara wasn’t a flop in my eyes. but should’ve been way bigger and given her flowers . She can dance her ass off. She’s the best female dancer in the industry now and then. Shorty got that footwork down Pat. I say her and Chris brown are twins signing and dancing with exquisite footwork.
Her net worth is is only $20 million dollars. That's not bad but it could be a lot higher in 20 million. She should be least worth between 70 to least 95 million because of her singing acting dancing skills. No she might not had a hit song in a while , or sign to a major label anymore but she deserves her fuckin flowers damnit.
@@larrymarshall8900Did you say "ONLY"? TF 🤦🏿
It's folks out here who don't even have $1000 in their bank account.
She came at a time when you had to have a great singing voice. She’d do great in today’s musical world because a good singing voice is no longer required to be a great singer.
@@blkwomenrinthebuilding20m
For a celb is not 20m for a reg person…they have BIG bills, and a team to pay…
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I don't understand why she gets hate. I like her story. I like that she went from negative to positive and she leveled up in all kids of ways. I can't stress enough how much I like hearing about her story. Imagine going from a serial dater, serial impregnator, to a man who loves her, protects her, honors her, and is loyal to her. PHEW! shes one blessed woman and I want a story similar to hers.
She avoided Future’s toxic ways and he is someone who Fboys praise rn
Because people wanna see a black woman do Bad!!! Even our own kind of people!!! That’s why we can never rise above bs!!
Ciara is way more than her relationships
I believe people hate her for that exact reason. She avoided being stuck, trapped with a dusty bandit. They resent her for showing women that there is better and you can do better. By the way, I never thought or personally know anyone else who thought she was a man.
It’s almost like they expect her to fail!!! She did 1000 percent better and look happier since Russel. I’m telling you our own race of people can be toxic as well!! Black men seemed mad that she got with a better guy. They expected her not to find better. It’s sad how black women are perceived and treated by our own race!!
As much as I love Beyoncé and Riri, Ciara needs to be given her flowers for her dance skills alone. One of the best dancers out there.
At the end of the day a music artist is considered "conventionally successful" when they're able to connect with an audience, when they give us hits. Ciara has sold 55 Million records WW has given us hits for several decades at this point. She has at least one platinum song on all 7 of her albums. Her latest single How We Roll is Top 10 on Urban and Rhythmic radio. If that's not longevity IDK what is.
Yup🔥👏👏👏👏 she does not have to be seen as the greatest of her generation to be successful. That comes with its own stressors lol I think ppl get frustrated because they see she had the potential to be as big as Janet but she didn't quite make it there. That's still ok tho. She's doing well.
Right, agreed. Lots of other artists from around her time period are nowhere to be seen
@@coreybrownCYoBrown Yeah, Ciara was never an industry favorite so even when she was in her prime label execs never believed in her vision. She never gave up her soul and still became an icon. do ya thang, CI!
@@Isthisjoebiden Yep, Ciara is at the top of her games when you compare her to ALL her peers who came out around the same time
The ONE thing I think U FAILED 2 mention is Her “Beef” with RiRi….That was a HUGE part of the Blackball!!! It started over a comment Ciara Made regarding RiRi NOT being so nice when She saw Her at an Event
Ciara’s Tweet: “Trust me Rhianna u dont want to see me on or off the stage."
Rihanna’s Tweet: "U gangsta huh? Haaa...Good luck with bookin that stage u speak of."😅
Riri ate that icl 😭😭
Oh yeah I remember this
Ciara was already getting blackballed before this beef. Her losing favor in the industry is the reason why Rihanna (who is a sl@ve to the industry) dissed her at the party Ciara referenced on fashion police. Yall be so ignorant on everything tryna educate people, please stay in yo lane
@@CiaraContentit's not that deep! Also the RiRi beef probably didn't help!
@@CiaraContentAlso RiRi is not a $lave to the industry! She hasn't dropped a album in years!
Is it just me or do she look like a goddess? Shes so pretty
Drop dead beautiful
Damn!!! The disrespect….they gave her her masters for free🫣Sheesh!!!!!! They didn’t believe in her at all
Now, that is unheard of in the music industry. They basically said to her: "take your trashy music away from here!" 🤣 (I don't believe she is trash btw)
Considering the amount of production money they spended on her sound and visuals (her shit looked fancy) and the records she sold in return, you can see she wasn't really profitable for them; but it is still crazy that they just handed to her the masters back 😂
Her record label did her so dirty. I can't believe they basically told her that her music career is a flop. they gave her masters for free. thats a slap in the face no? She's such a strong humble woman to this day. All love to CiCi.
As a Ciara fan, Future is misogynistic trash however I ain't gone lie, he really helped revive Ciara's ATL sound with that 2013 album. It sounded like it could've been her 3rd album after The Evolution. I give him credit for that.
he might've helped her pick radio-friendly songs to go on the album, but you must know, as a Ciara fan, Body Party initially came from the minds of Ciara herself and Jasper Cameron. They laid down the foundation of that record and then Past and Mike-Wont-Make-it came in later to give her the My Boo sampled beat and new hook.
@CiaraContent Future still had assistance on Body Party, I'm giving him credit for his part. In the past (Basic Instinct album), Ciara tried to return to her ATL sound but it fell flat. With Future assistance on the self-titled album, his input really made a difference.
@@TheMelody15 Basic Instinct track listing was not Ciara's doing. Jive, who went defunct after Basic Instinct, forced Ciara to leave off some of the best material she had recorded during those sessions. She had bangers like Blauw, Gifted, Listen To My Song, This Is What Love Is, I Don't Care, Shut Em Up, Flaws & All which all were radio friendly potential hits. Those record execs were sabotaging Ciara from all fronts.
Future doesn't deserve hardly any credit. The biggest song from that era is a song that would've never come together had Ciara and Jasper not started writing on it.
@CiaraContent Blauw & This Is What Love Is sound like Fantasy Ride throwaways.
Gift and Listen To My Song are pretty good tracks but aren't hits.
I Don't Care is the weakest, definitely needed to be left off.
Shut Em Up and Flaws & All definitely should've been on Basic Instinct.
What I am trying to say is Future's assistance helped Ciara back in 2013 (not taking away her contributions)
@@TheMelody15 I've never heard a Ciara fan diss the radio smash that Blauw coulda been. Have you heard it recently? That was a crossover hit waiting to happen.
& then you don't like I Don't Care? but you think Flaws coulda did something? I feel like IDC would've been huge for her, way more than Flaws.
She also didn't over sexualize herself and carried herself respectably. She's always been cool as hell.
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Going the pop route after her 2nd album was a huge mistake... Ciara's fanbase didn't want that style of music from her and it showed in how poorly Fantasy Ride sold...The Crunk&B sound was all hers and she abandoned it early
Exactly.
The only pop single to come from that era was Love Sex Magic and it was the most successful song released from that project. All of her other singles were Urban and they weren't being supported heavily by Urban radio because the music industry was not playing a fair game with Ciara
@@CiaraContentexactly. She has several pop hits but Jive went thru a merger during that time and became RCA. Ci lost the people in the building that signed her and really believed in her
BET knows d*mn well they could have played that “explicit” video on UNCUT. That show/segment was WILD!
Right!!!
Justice for Ciara. So glad the industry can’t break her
People were acting like supermodels were are not as tall or muscular as Ciara or even taller. I don’t get how people can mistaken her for a dude. That never made any sense. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
It never made since to me either. She has always looked feminine to me. They couldn't find anything bad about her to say, so they made up rumors which sucks. She didn't deserve it and I never believed it. She handled that scandal with grace.
honestly black people are very very closed minded even more closed minded then, most didn’t even actually pay attention to supermodels unless it’s Naomi Campbell
I can't claim to be a Ciara fan but I love her biggest hits. She had the looks, the talent and a massive start to her career. Imo she just lacked some identity to her image like Beyonce and Rihanna, which goes a long way into building a solid fanbase. Modeling would've really suited her because she has that VS type of body. Still I'm really happy that she's found real love and happiness with Russell. Their relationship reminds me there's still hope for me 😂❤
You do know she’s been a signed professional model to the top agencies like Wilhelmina since 09 right?
She should definitely got into modeling she had and has the look, the body, and the height. I’m so shocked she never did. And she should’ve became a professional dancer
i feel the same exact way. i enjoyed her top singles but i still don’t feel drawn to her simply cause i don’t really know what makes her stand out? i think her branding as a singer could be tightened up to better communicate that.
I was OBSESSED with her song “Oh”. I would be out in my yard pretending I’m in a music video lol she has some bangers
Girl I would pretend it was me singing that song you hear😂
I love Ciara so much. Rihanna, Beyonce and Ciara will always be my top 3 favorite artists of all time. I don't like what happened to Ciara throughout her music career, but she is still an inspiration. Her growth, resilience and determination always makes me have flames of hope that will never burn out. Thank you Ciara for everything and continue to keep doing your thang ❤️💖❤️💖❤️
I fell like her going into the alter ego thing was bad because everyone was doing it and it seemed unnatural for her and it may have seemed cringy I don’t know why others got away from it but yea
I think the idea was great for the time. It’s was probably just the branding of her alter ego. It’s was to “kiddie” ie, Beyoncé has Sasha Fierce. Super C was very cringy. She should’ve went with her nick name “CiCi” or something that could resonate with the young adult /adult audience
I didn't care for it either. I did like some of the songs off fantasy ride though.
You def deserve more follows for your vids. Ciara’s rise and fall is interesting. It’s sad that they gaaaave Ciara her masters like… artist don’t get that chance. It showed how much faith they didn’t have. That’s crazy.
Thank youuu
Yesssssss I Agree❤
People thought she was a man? She's a gorgeous flamboyant natural kibbe body type, like the supermodels
@@Ceetv.Clarissa is it possible you consider re-naming the video? the content of the video is not reflective of the title. Can you rename it to something more respectful?
@@Ceetv.ClarissaI like the deep dive of this video, however the title comes off shady
I wish I would have "flopped" Ciara style - mrs. is rich, gorgeous, has a beautiful family of her own PLUS the cherry on top - Future acknowledged indirectly his loss lol, good for you sis
Till this day I’m still Trina figure out how she did that Microphone trick on promise
Completely unrelated to the overall topic, but it’s crazy to me that they gave Ciara her masters for FREE while they were keeping Taylor Swift’s masters under lock and key like it was in Alcatraz. It just goes to show that record labels will often work against you at times, and give your art away for free if they don’t believe in it, or won’t give you the rights to it at all when they know it’s extremely valuable.
Or Ciara didn’t sell out for fame
@@TheeJayMac0214That part. Ciara didn’t sell her soul. There’s more to Ciara than just music. She is a phenomenal woman…wife, mother, model, philanthropist, an amazing host, speaker, engaging, beautiful personality. She has it all. She seems to have an amazing life. She’s not a slave to the music industry.
@@RG-cw8yg you're right and I have so much respect for Ciara. She talented, smart and classy who never degraded herself to make it to the top. So proud of her for taking matters into her own hands and became in control of her career/future 😊.
I have every Ciara album. This woman is what talent is. You never hear about her screwing anyone over. About her being part of the illuminati. Going to industry "parties". You don't see her bashing other artist. There is always a light around her. Seems like a great mother. Has a great husband. Other than Janet, no female artist touches her on stage. I dont think the Jazzy Phae situation hurt her. I also dont think Future helped her. Other hip hop producers have worked with her and it was cool. I think her changing her sound hasnt worked. Even "How We Roll" with CB wasn't it. Crunk&B isnt a thing anymore but R&B is. She need to get back to that Promise, Body Party and Ride types of songs. Thats what we need from her. Her performances hasn't lost a beat.
The “illuminati” stuff isn’t real for anybody. It’s just something losers on the internet say about VERY successful black artists. So her not being linked with that isn’t really saying much. But she did have public beef with Rihanna via Twitter where they both bashed each other.
2013 they tried to say she was apart of Illuminati. I know cus it was something my brother, sister and I researched heavily 2009-2017
"How We Roll" is in the exact lane of Promise, Ride, & Body Party 🤔😒
It is literally her biggest Billboard hit since Body Party 💁🏾♂️ Its currently Top 10 on Billboards R&B/hip hop airplay chart
Actually she did wear a "Golden Dawn" jacket which is part of that "illuminati" stuff
True. But she is Janet's musical daughter. Hard to out perform the blueprint.
There is nothing manly about this woman. She’s the epitome of ‘level up’ and the power of belief, prayer and manifestation. 🙏🏽
Ciara is just fine!!! It seems it's mostly our own community that's always putting each other down...smh...I'm so happy she seems to be doing well and HAPPY...I wish her well
This part!!! Why make a vid like this with that title? And compile all the negativity in her life?
I’m sure Shakespeare was able to take some breaks and put out some less popular stuff without getting called a flop. Achievements are cumulative
The energy behind this is weird and judgmental. She could’ve framed this same information as a vid of all of Ciara’s triumphs
This is why it doesn’t pay to be famous fr. your life becomes public property for people like this to comment on unprovoked
I think Ciara and Russel are so blessed as a unit is because they waited before they got married. They were friends first. God wrote her love story so beautiful.
They were MADE exactly for each other, look at what Russell is going through right now with his career and Team, the sabotage, the lack of support, down playing of his contributions, accomplishments and talents, it’s the SAME thing Ciara has had to face in her entire career, it’s like they are ying and yang. No wonder they click and hold each other down so much, beautiful couple ❤
We need a study done on why our multi-talents die out faster than the just-singers. Ciara, omarion, jacob latimore, prodigy, these are world class entertainers who could light any stage right now. and the multi-talents who are still relevant have contemporaries who are bigger than they are who only sing
i see it in the sports world too, fans in soccer & the nba seem to like the pure scorer more than the guy that can do multiple things elite
My theory is that people with multiple talents (triple threat type of people) are harder to control. They have too much talent and creativity to be put into a box as a one trick pony. Whereas the one talent pony only has one chanel to showcase themselves and therefore are insecure and out of desperation allow themselves to be controlled. It also depends on the connections you have in the industry. Look at Miley Cyrus. Her father is a country singer, her god mother is a super star. Dolly Parton even own theme parks in Tennessee. Miley is very talented but also had people already in the industry behind her.
That’s a good take ^
I think it has to with these multi talent people not excelling at anything. Like they can do all these things but they’re not the greatest at it. Like Taylor has her writing, Ariana has her voice, bey has her performances, even someone like jlo can actually dance. A lot of the people you named aren’t a master at any one thing, they might be good at it but there’s someone better at the same time. Ntm outside factors like hit potential, marketability, label backing, consistency, etc.
@@dillondenman6446 my exact thoughts jack of all trades master of none
@@obitouchiha7040the curse of versatility
I don't like folks downing her .. she is a star on her on right
CiCi deserves so much more love and respect! Everytime I see her perform live I am simply baffled that she isn't treated in the same way the artists like Bey and Rihanna are. She has hits and she has so much talent! Nobody dances like Ciara! I hope she gets another number 1 album and more recognition!
Her, Janet, and Aaliyah were the Dopest, sexiest to do it.
All 3 kinda similar when you think 🤔
For sure. I remember back in the day everyone comparing her to Aaliyah but if anything she takes more from Michael and Janet. @@devantejackson5085
We as black people always got to be negative towards each other. We have nothing to do with her personal life. People need to mind their business. I like Ciara music. Wish she got more recognition. Glad she’s happy that’s all that matters. Be blessed C.
I don't care what any one says. Ciara owned her Career no matter what. I may not listen to her everyday, but she will never leave my childhood.
I listen to "Like A Boy" to this day! TIMELESS song ❤️🔥
I love that 2. ❤❤❤❤❤
Sold 45 million records, thats how we roll debut at what number 3/ on two separate charts, own publishing and 9 top ten hits is a failure? Wtf😂😂😂 Almost 20 years later. What do yall call successful?
underrated, not a flop!
@@amoragirl15 Ok, that make sense.😂😂
Compared to her peers like Rihanna, she's underrated. She's even been dropped by her record labels for poor album sales, rarely tours overseas because she's not so popular! She's compared to the likes of Kelly Rowland!
@@diamondseries7221 Kelly hasn't sold half of what Ciara sold. Kelly doesn't even have a hit what are you saying?😂😂 Everyone isn't B and Rhianna but Ciara has definitely made waves. She's still out here!
@@missmusicalpsychic7421 Kelly and Ciara are besties! Both have sold about 40 million records, won one Grammy each and both have at least one stand out track on each album. Kelly is even better because she's from Destiny's Child
I would love to have a downfall like CiCi she’s living her best life 😂
Ciara's albums aren't really flops considering she has gold/platinum certification from each project. A lot of the women who came out when she came out don't even have that
You can have one hit in a flop lackluster album. It happens often
A gold/platinum singles doesn’t mean an album didn’t flop. Her sales started declining after her sophomore album.
@@AngeBiampandouhun go make music then and see
If you ask me between her more successful counterparts namely Beyoncé and Rihanna.. Ciara actually is the biggest winner socially. Her husband is not connected to wild accusations with underage girls, possible outside children from his d__g running days, or facing criminal charges from stupid decisions. She found a good man in every way with no negative publicity or baggage. I love that for her
That part. Ciara didn’t sell her soul. There’s more to Ciara than just music. She is a phenomenal woman…wife, mother, model, philanthropist, an amazing host, speaker, engaging, beautiful personality. She has it all. She seems to have an amazing life. She’s not a slave to the music industry. I’d much rather have Ciara’s success over Beyoncé and Rihanna. Ciara is simply winning in life.
I still like her because she’s authentic…no bbl just a real body & she can dance her butt off. Great personal journey as well
I haven’t cared for any of Ciara’s music ever since she went independent and started having this pop generic sound. She was so much better in her Goodies and Promise days. I even loved her song with Crime Mob called “So What”. I wish she could get back on track. Her first album was everything but It seems she’s happy now with her kids and husband. ❤
She’s doin better know and is happier than those who been downplaying her❤️
Uggh so glad u posted 😩the tl was BORING
ciara's pop girl era with super ci was great, her label literally just did not green light her to execute it. u can hear that alter ego very clearly on certain tracks of fantasy ride. she sounds more sassier, confident and powerful - along with evolution - those are ciara's best album eras.
to sum it up - ciara's career is an example of how it is a must for a record label to truely believe in their artist & commit to them and if they didnt, sadly this is the outcome.
times have thankfully changed - but ciara's story shows how the time for musicians and potential careers has changed. she deserves her flowers and i am genuinely in awe of her and how much she has been able to deal with. truely an unbreakable and powerful woman
Ciara’s success seemed more like pure luck than anything else. She came out the hugely successful crunk era and had super producers behind her. She also filled the gap left by Aaliyah, being a performer whose powerful dancing made up for a not so stellar vocal talent. Ciara is a product of an era in R&B and is not a standalone talent that can evolve with the times.
So succinctly put. I don't know why people are glossing over the fact that Ciara's vocals were not that great.
this doesn't make sense since Ciara has plenty of hits outside of crunk music. yall tried to put that label on her and she fought against it very successfully. Ciara can't evolve with the times? Then how was she able to sample a sound on vine and turn it into the double platinum hit that is Level Up? That song came out 14 years after her debut. that is not luck. That is a hard working artists who has talent. Yall have no talent at all in any facet of business and yall want other people to sit in the same seat as yall. It aint happening with Ci
@@tamaramlindi Britney's, Janet's and a slew of other dancing divas didn't have operatic, church like vocals. There is more to artistry than being a powerhouse singer. Let's be serious
@@tamaramlindiRihanna’s vocals aren’t great either. Yet, people support her and beg for her to release new music.
@@CiaraContentWell stated. Rihanna’s vocals aren’t great. Yet, she’s been overhyped throughout her career and people stay begging for her to release another album.
It's crazy that her video was banned. Nowadays, the videos we see on TV used to only show late night on uncut. I mean, that video didn't have cheeks out or anything.
There’s conflicting stories about that - apparently bet asked the team to make some changes to the video, nothing was done and so they refused to play it. Ciara tried to play it up like it was banned in order to create some buzz cause the rest of the album was flopping 🤷♀️
This title is rude asf, you did NOT have to go that hard on her… she still had a good career
right
The cha-millionaire had me weak.. it’s pronounced kamillionaire 😂 ❤
Me to 😂😂😂😂
Its weird how ppl think Ciara is the only one that has gone through this
I met Ciara on a movie set in 2011. It’s funny because I didn’t know it was her at first and she was so humble and talented. Still is! God bless her! 🙏🏼❤️
She actually remained relevant through it all! Going viral and platinum too despite what they wanted to happen
Career is THAT woman. Classy and doesnt compare herself to other females. She chose family. Which is awesome.
I love how most of the comments are coming to Ciara defense for the life of me I will not understand the constant hate and disrespect she gets it’s disheartening when it come from our community been a Ciara fan since day one best dancer hands down just seen a video of comparing Keri hilson career to Ciara and I couldn’t even take it seriously
It’s disgusting people made that rumour up about her. Some people are so mean spirited. And if she went and got a bunch of surgery they woulda clowned her too. I enjoy her older stuff not so much her newer stuff but I respect her as an artist
Still so proud of her. She has accomplished a lot .
I think the difference between Rih and Ciara is that Rihanna was more versatile from the start. Rihanna released Pon De Replay, SOS and Unfaithful in less then 1,5/2 years. That’s already so much versatility and that made her different from all those other girls. Those other girls were still doing the same sound and things.
She ain’t write her music, the others did. Anybody can pick versatile songs when all you gotta do is listen to them and sing them like the others wrote for you
@@msawmusic She wrote not all of them but later she did but at the end of the day she is the most successful here so clearly no one gave two shits about those writing credits except for you and the 3 people that liked your comment
@@msawmusic and one thing you can’t deny is that Rihanna knows how to deliver a song even tho she didn’t wrote it. You can write whatever you want but if you can’t carry the song then it’s pretty useless. She DELIVERED Love the way you lie, Love on the brain, Kiss it better, Rehab, Russian Roulette and all the other hits she had. But it speaks for itself
@@RihannaChristina I will never deny it, but let’s not act like it’s not easier to deliver a song a producer and writer already figured out for you than to create from scratch. Hence why Rihanna doesn’t own her masters and Ciara does.
At the end of the day....Ciara is WINNING!
I always supported her 🤷🏿
‘Ohh’… WAS MY JAM back in the day.!!!! 🥰 God bless her,,, she grown so much and it’s really lovely to see. ❤
To even address a rumor as silly as this lady possibly being a guy is very in my opinion disrespectful. The media commonly makes claims about black women being male. That tidbit has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on her career or lack there of. We are our own worst enemy @Clarissa. C
The internet did not start in early 2000s.. it was social media getting more popular with Facebook coming out.
The hold Ciara had on me as a young teen was crazy, loved her music, played her albums, thought she was so graceful yet with a cool edginess to her
Plus her dancing 😫😍
She’s such a great entertainer ❤
I had her 1st 2 albums. Idc what they say I still love Ciara and I am happy for her growth as an artist ❤️❤️❤️
Wow they banned her video ride and now look at every female artist now and their videos smh
I loved her first two albums like the majority of the public. After her second album, it was like she became a "singles" artist meaning you like certain singles not the album. When BP was released, I bought a Ciara album for the first time since TE. It's great that she found happiness.
6:00 nowadays Ciara probably would’ve felt pressured to get a bbl early on in her career.
It’s sad that Ciara didn’t reach the level of someone like Rihanna. Reminds me of Victoria Monèt. So talented yet underrated.
Future did nothing but bring her down
and try to embarrass her! like i hate him for playing her like that
2024 Can't believe it's been 20 Years Since CiCi Impressed the World 🌎 with her Sweet Voice, Dance Skills, and Stage Presence.
She reminds me of Both Janet and Aaliyah(R.I.P.)and All 3 got the Best Abs I ever seen 😅,
I Wish All 3 Could've Collaborated like Whitney(R.I.P.), Faith Evans, and Kelly Price did on the song
"Heartbreak Hotel".
Also, I Can't believe it's been 20 Years Since her Freshman Album "Goodies".
Time Flying Definitely 🕊️🕊️
CiCi Deserves her Flowers 🌹🌹.
Certified Legend and a Certified Baddie 😍.
Keep Doing these videos Queen 👑.
Just thinking back on them messy ass chat rooms and forums in the early internet days gives me a headache. 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
I got mad love for Cici aka Super C. I think her albums are underrated, and given time to sit and listen to each one of them, people would realize their are some hidden gems on each of them. The 1st track off the Fantasy Ride album is 🔥 to me. And the Jackie(BMF) track on the Jackie album is fire too.
Ciara’s story is very similar to what's conceptually going on with Chloe Bailey. For me, Ciara’s legacy was compromised by the clash between persona, aesthetics, authenticity, and the Internet. Ciara’a original sound, Crunk & R&B matched her aesthetic. Then as all artists do, Ci had to decide how she would evolve to expand her reach and longevity. This transition also happened as the Internet was encouraging stars to share more about themselves as people versus letting their talent speak. I distinctly remember when the public grew annoyed with Ciara for becoming more of a socialite and becoming the friend of Kim K, along with Lala. That's the Super Ci era. This happened around the time Ciara was exploring the road of going pop/ leaning into the Janet vibe. She had to define a lane that could keep the black audience while getting more white people to support her. This then created a huge issue around authenticity. I think she should have perfected the pop sound and stayed the course. Sex Live and Magic was a moment. Ciara just needed to perfect the sound and had to figure out how to take that vibe throughout an album. Because she had room to improve, many fans were not sold on her being pop. Then when she went back to R&B. Many of us started to see more of her persona, in which it didn't match the hood/ urban vibe. Which is why many see her, to this day, as corny. This is the Chloe correlation. Chloe energetically feels more like a good girl but presents a sexy, bad girl image. Ciara introduced us to her as this cool hood adjacent good girl but then went Janet but then back to sexy hood adjacent girl.. But talked like a valley girl.. Smh just too much lol Then yes, the situation with Future had many men stop supporting her. However, with tenacity, Ciara turned that breakdown into triumph. This is when the GP started to accept her more good/upper-class persona. From here, she needed to and still needs to find music that matches her persona. However, her being so seasoned in the game is working against her. At this point many of us want her to have her vibe/sound figured out. Also, why are her brand/mogul decisions not amplifying her as a dancer? The decision to pursue modeling, acting, and skincare instead of fitness, dance, and or dance competition shows. Smh. Poor biz decisions have also added to the GP losing interest/removing support. All and all. She's doing well but not sure she'll be as big as her peers. That's okay. She's still successful. Not everyone is meant to be the mega superstar. She doing well and there is a place for her type of Star.
Tbh I don’t see any parallels with Chloe and Ciara story. At a very early age Ciara established her sound. Although, birthed out of a trend she’s had to learn how to adapt with the time and culture to still maintain an audience. Marketing plays a huge role in her career and because she didn’t have a strong brand it would be harder to maintain the spotlight with the likes of Rihanna and B. While Chloe on the other hand was and is both an actor and singer simultaneously. She was beginning to find her sound with her sister but completely changed her sound/identity because she’s still learning and trying to explore. I feel like during the time she separated from her sister we saw her trying to explore and find herself personally and artistically at the same time. She tried to see what would stick to get a hit by pushing out music that was more sexual/body focused because that was/is keeping her relevant and engagement. Talented nonetheless, she has yet to find her signature sound in my opinion and she just needs time to grow and mature into it and not force it because it’ll make people not connect with her at all. There stories are different in my opinion.
@@jathanblake the end of your post is what I think Chloe and Ciara share in their career experiences. Like Chloe, Ciara was trying to find her sound and lost ppl during that process. Ciara is still deeply experimenting with sonics. We still can't say this or that sounds like a Ciara song. Also, parallel and correlation aren't the same. Correlation is a bit more casual and loose when describing similarity. Chloe and Ciara aren't having overt similar experiences. I was drawing connections around the concepts pertaining to lacking authenticity/ a firmed identity that could then translate through their music. You ended up articulating it in your post. I think we're on the same page but saying it differently.
@@jathanblake and actually Ciara’s initial brand was very strong. Just that the subgenre of Crunk and B wasn't. The subgenre was so weak it doesn't exist anymore. The industry reps foresaw that being an issue. To sustain, Ciara would have had to carry that sound on her back. This is part of why she made a pivot. Also, this speaks to lack of marketing. How would they market that? I think answer was fusing it with pop. Again, think Ciara needed to perfect thst vibe. Truly embrace being a pioneer.. Ciara came out when I was a freshman in college and had a distinct lane aside from Beyonce. She was actually better off than Rihanna🔥 However, when Rihanna🔥 made her switch.. It was more authentic to who Rihanna is as a person. Rih was always pop majority.. She just changed her approach and because it was real, the world fell in love with it. In short, Ci and Chloe struggle with creating music that embodies their being. Energy is undeniable and ppl can see through trying instead of being.
This is a reach. Chloe has full creative freedom over her music and is still learning. She has alot more to give.
@@ajollypanda4175 What I shared leaves space for Chloe to evolve. I'm just speaking to why she hasn't taken off yet, compared to her peers. I hope she still does. She's in her mid 20s. If you learns from it, time is still on her side. However, if she doesn't play her cards right, she can have a story similar to Ciara. As I shared before, life happens to us all, it's mostly about how respond. Well see how Chloe moves from this point.
To me I always felt there was a interesting comparisons to Ciara VS Rihanna and tinashe mainly Ciara and Rihanna not bc of the iconic Twitter beef they had but mainly bc of how similar their career journeys have been I think what made Rihanna stick more despite having much more disadvantages and factors working against her was she had a smart business sense of her music, fashion and entrepreneurship reminds me a lot of 80s Madonna where like Madonna knew to be on top is to be ahead of curve against everyone or standout among the crowd. When the EDM, electropop sound was booming she combined that sound with reggae, dancehall, R&B and hip hop to standout musically against Gaga, Katy, and Kesha and then when that era was finishing its peak, she did a 360 with her 2015 droplet singles era and her masterpiece Anti. Even her venture in fashion and beauty, she still went against the grain and broke down both industries, Ciara’s business idea in music was always about going wherever the wind blow, going wherever it’s popular and trendy at the moment, never taking risks or taking herself seriously as a artist, even as a dancer, she’s reminded the same, where as someone Beyoncé evolved and developed into dancing styles and techniques that Beyoncé in the 2000s wouldn’t have been able to do.
For tinashe, I always envisioned her as what Ciara could’ve been if she was more serious as a artist and debuted in the social media/streaming era of music, like tinashe having all the issues she’s had with RCA of course she’s lot going to achieve chart topping superstar status but she is however well respected among her peers and has a huge International cult following fanbase I feel as a whole Ciara is a sad case of wasted potential with her music career but I’m so happy for her with her personal life amazing husband and family and has so many business ventures and deals she don’t need music no more but you can tell she still wants it
I never seen Ciara as an L she’s very known & is THAT GIRL. 👸🏽 Ciara falling of was never a thing tbh 💯 When she doesn’t drop music she stays relevant because she has multiple hits and she has a loyal fanbase. People will always fw her because of how she is as a person. Her career is not limited to music. She’s a brand within itself.
righttttt!!!
She is usually positive. But ppl love the ppl who are in drama and always in negative situations. But ciara every time she does something and shes happy all these men and some women love to hate on her
The woman can’t do anything, the minute they see her in anything, they attack her and tear her down, Glad she has strong Mentals, and a wonderful support system around her ❤ She will continue to thrive 🎉
Yeah. She deserves her peace. Happy for her 💕
Love Ciara, Her 3rd Album Fantasy Ride Was Mishandled & It Was A Good POP album. Some say she went POP to FAST & Some say the hanging with the Kardashians in 2009 changed her. She Addressed This In The Song You Got Me.
When she left jazzy , and went Hollywood , her career ended
Also Fantasy Ride is past gold status now close to platinum status same thing for the Basic Instinct album. Which has the number one hot one hundred single Ride. And the follow up singles platinum singles Speechless and Gimmie Dat. The Ciara album has went platinum as well and double platinum singles Body Party and I’m Out.
The "Ciaras a man" shit was WILD to me. She is soooo gorgeous.
I remember Wendy said she needs to let go of music and be a model . I miss Wendy so much!!! 😩😩😩😂❤️
Hear Future speak
Makes me scream in laughter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He talk like a 17 year old boy being in grown folks business 😂😂😂
Clown behavior is strong in future blood we see
I’ve honestly never perceived her as a flop until around the level up era but her beginning days were very iconic and I still listen to the old stuff these days
Wait... She never had a downfall
I think Ciara does have longevity and has made an impact in music (rnb/soul). Yes Jazze Pha produced SOME (not all) of her earlier hits: 1;2 step, Get Up, So what (field mob song that featured Ciara) and Thugstyle + Pick Up the phone from Goodies. She had worked with other producers post Jazze that give her hits for example on her second album the evolution she worked with Pharrell (I Proceed) willIAm(Get in fit in), Darkchild (Can't Leave em Alone), Polow da Don (Promise & later Never Ever on fantasy ride) and Lil Jon (Thats Right & C.R.U.S.H) The Dream &Tricky Stewart (Ride) she still was a household name during that time and tbh her popularity only declined after her second album because she was introduced as the queen of crunk&b (although she always humbly declined that title) people linked her to JUST that sound so when she crossovered audiences and became international known with the sucess of her debut most were expecting songs that song like Goodies, 1;2 step and Oh but people forget ciara is an r&b artist crunk&b is literally crunk with rnb. She has always had longevity in music period because of r&b thats why if she releases some songs that dont chart as well as others they're still staple hits like (And I, Never Ever) etc she still has has her core fan base that have been there since day 1. She has had a messy dating history with Furture & 50cent mostly but thank God he sent someone that's for her and makes her happy plus blessed her with 3 kids and loves her other child as well.
Ciara is literally one of the only female artists who didn't completely crossover to pop like Beyonce (still does r&b) and rihanna (who was always pop) that still charts today and gets platinum and gold hits. I hate to do the names comparisons cause i love some of these artist too but girls that came out in Ciara's era of early/mid 00's most have stopped there (Ashanti, Nivea, Keyshia Cole, Amerie, etc) with the exception of Ashanti and Keyshia Cole both have 1 hit song each in 10's era the rest haven't even got that meanwhile Ciara has a hit every era if the album flops so she still will secure that platinum hit and now she's independent so all that money in extra residuals goes to HER. They said her career was done after Fantasy Ride but she has still secured hits in the 10's decade and is starting with the 20's
10's decade hits: 5th self-titled album- platinum (as of 2023) Ride ft Luda-platinum
Body Party-double platinum
Im Out- gold
I Bet-platinum
Level Up-platinum, double platinum (as of 2023)
20's era so far: How we roll ft Chris Brown- (not certified yet but charting and getting radioplay with 35M views on youtube) Id say ciara has has a successful music career and yes the music may not hit the same as her earlier days its because she has a mature sound now and is a mom/wife so her music isnt as sexy-sensual and hood girl as before but she can still make cute dance tempo bops and can even do more ballads she just needs to work with current producers id love to hear her with Jazze again but he hasn't did anything memorable after Cherish.
Ciara has inspired many artist of the generation after her including Kehlani, Victoria Monet, Tinashe, Normani, Summer Walker just to name a few she has a special career in music where she can keep rebranding herself over and over with time and make hits as long as its R&B
Ciara is FOREVER bae! I will NEVER tolerate any Ciara slander, EVER! ❤ 👑
Seems like she has accomplished all three goals 🖤🖤
I’ve never been a fan of Ciara’s even though I like some of her early 2000s stuff. But it seems odd that she doesn’t have better music or isn’t bigger. She’s beautiful, she can dance, she seems sweet as hell and her voice is just fine. Her music as of late is super forgettable and not something I’d even bother with. So hopefully she can find the right writers and producers to give her a career a real boost outside of all that goofy social media stuff she keeps doing
Ciara is extremely underrated!!!! I seen her perform live and she an amazing dancer and performer.
Ciara always had a striking face.
BET banned "RIDE" ?? For dance moves???
I love and will always support Ciara
I really hope she uses Goodies in an ad one day. Target or something. The nostalgia and production it brings is impeccable.
We appreciate your insights. You'll always have our support.
They claimed Aaliyah was a male too 🤦🏾♀️🙄
Never heard that
No they didn't😒
yesss they did
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@@o13sweetboy look it up
@@MsDisneylandlover look it up
She seems to be thriving now 🤷🏽♂️.
People thought she was a man...? See this is exactly what i mean when I say that transphobia doesn't just affect us trans people. It literally affects cisgender people also...