I'd love a Little Samson, but I'll never pay what people want for it. If I ever own it, it will be because I bought a lot from someone sight unseen and it turns out to be in it.
Prices will fluctuate, like with any market, but they're not going to drastically drop in price or tank... If you want them "Little Samsons", you're not only going to be paying for the game, you're also gonna be forking over that "finders fee"... Otherwise, good luck with your journey finding this at a yard sale bud... lol...
Retro video games is a horrible investment. As time goes by more and more people become disinterested in old video games. The newer generation is not going to care about NES games when they are i their 20s and 30s. Prices are going to go down on these games and systems as the demand for them also goes down.
@@FirestoneX Well, I am not a parent. And if I was I would not force my interests on my children. I would let them decide what they personally like or dislike. You fail as a parent if you force your kids to do things that they don't like.
Boomers are dying off and a newer generation wont be interested in 80s 8bit games. Well see a rise in demand for game cube and n64 games once all the gen Yers hit mid 20s to early 30s, its already happening. It's basic economics.
Boomers are not the generation associated with 8 bit gaming... that would be the forgotten generation: gen X'rs. We are not dying off; we are in our 40's and early 50's. My father was a boomer, his generation had practically no association with videogames at all.
- Jim Halperin owns WATA. Jim Halperin owns heritage auction. Jim Halperin is one of the three people that bought that $100,000 SMB - WATA recruits people with raw games. - WATA over states the condition of a item. (their grading scale is also misleading) Their 9.8 A+ are not even 80-85 VGA attempts. - Heritage decides what the price of an item should be and start pushing the price. - the auction opens and Heritage Auction uses undisclosed shill bidders to bid agents their own customers and drive up the sale price. - Heritage auction then contacts news outlets and gets a puff piece written. - IF heritage auction shill bidding wins the auction they get news outlets to write a puff piece about how "some collector" made this amazing purchase. That SMB fraudulent purchase has a lot of potential crimes. Also possible wire fraud. If any of those guys used a bank to get a loan that's also bank fraud. If it was worth 100k why did it take 3 people to get to that price? why are all the people that made that purchase involved in WATA and/or heritage auctions?
Hope it does drop. Great. More affordable for those of us who just want to play on original hardware and not spend a whole paycheck on a single game.Yay!
A hacked NES classic has the feel of the original hardware but it's a lot more convenient (save states, always works, HDMI, etc). Or just get a flash cart if you want to use the original hardware. There is absolutely no advantage to having the original game.
@@ZefTillDeath8878 saying there is absolutely no advantage to having the original game is 100 percent incorrect. There is lag, graphics differences, and just the fact you aren't using the actual cart that someone else used in the 80's and 90's is kinda cheesy. If you want proof, watch my life in gaming's videos on how it differs, especially for speed running.
I started to dump my collection in 2012 -2016, prices were getting high, I needed to pay for things, have 20k worth in games in my early 20's I decided to cash out. I had bought some atlas games for ps1 about 7 years earlier and they never went up just stayed the same. I just wasn't happy having so much stuff in my life and was seeking to be more or a minimalist. I can say I was both a Collector and Investor later. I started collecting when I was about 7 keeping every system and game box they came in.
I really enjoyed watching Pat the NES Punk and a bunch of other retro game UA-camrs back in 2014 (which seemed like the peak of retro game collecting, at least it was for me). I still enjoy collecting and playing retro and import games, but I've been so disconnected from the hobby for a while. I feel like this was the first Completely Unnecessary Podcast that I've seen in years. It's very interesting to hear the current state of NES collecting from Pat and Ian.
@@PatTheNESpunk I bought it last year for about $60 and had no qualms about the price once I played it :D. It might not be for the masses but there's a niche market there like me.
Absolutely. Go sell your video game collection Pat if you think it wont be worth anything in 10 years. We will all happily buy them, and resell them later on.
All of Nintendo's own games, your Marios, Zeldas, Metroids, Punchouts will retain value. Ninja Gaiden. Contra. Castlevania. Megaman. A few others that don't come to mind. Those IPs have cache that will always retain value. Otherwise, there's a ton of run of the mill licensed/third party games that will drop significantly. Bear in mind those of us who actually grew up with these games are now 40-50 years old and will probably be selling alot of this stuff soon, as life at this stage makes collecting plastic carts with 1s and 0s more and more impractical. The market for NES is about to get a ton of inventory over the next 5 years.
I think there will continue to be collectors, though possibly fewer, and that the condition of the games will make more and more difference in their sale value. The nice boxed ones will retain value, if not go up, while bare carts and such will go down or, if they're already very low, stay around the same price.
According to Pat's NES Collecting App, my collection is worth X amount of dollars. I'm still hoping for the NES market to crash because I don't care if X suddenly becomes .001 percent of its value. I like having/playing/ collecting these games and I don't see myself ever selling them. The sooner the crash, the more I can buy and play without feeling like I'm breaking the bank.
Same here. I've never kept my games as a retirement fund, more like for retirement fun. I've been waiting for the crash for so long, I'm glad is getting closer and closer as the decade is coming to an end.
The NES is probably my favorite console, but if the prices all went down I'd be buying more games right away. I stopped because of the current prices. Future me: Bonks Adventure, Little Samson, Panic Restaurant here I come!
I've lost my appetite for collecting the physical games due to the combination of lack of space and being able to play any game I want through emulation. I am keeping my childhood games and consoles, though, for sentimental reasons.
@@chestercopperpot9459 That isn't how it works. Demand is high right now so prices are high. When demand falls the prices will fall and they will stay there because the demand will remain low. The majority of the people that actually want these games to keep have them. When the prices fall the speculators will lose interest. The casuals that are just into it because it is popular will lose interest. And there will be no one to replace these people. Those of us just waiting for the prices to fall won't be enough to push them back up. Because personally I won't pay more than 20 to 30 for any of these games. If they cost more than that I simply won't buy them.
I have some ps1 games that I paid more for than I care to admit, but I got them because I have personal attachments to the games. They're not there for symbol status or to fill out a meaningless collection, and I certainly have no desire to sell them off no matter how much value they gain or lose. In ten years I'll still have those games for my personal enjoyment, while hipster collectors will only be able to worry about the money they lost.
So i agree somewhat, but my friend owns a very successful Video Game store and the customers are younger and younger which means though prices may drop the supply will as well. Stabilized prices due to increased intrest and demand...
Zev Zero i got in on GBA stuff about 8 years ago. I haven't checked prices in a while. The pokemon games used to be the most expensive, about 40-50 each. Luckily I got the the more expensive games early on. BTW: I'm a collector/gamer, absolutely no intentions of profit.
A SCN (scandinavian) version of Little Samson complete with box and manual in OK condition just sold for 250$ + shipping here on Swedish Ebay (called Tradera), i guess we ain't as crazy about those rare games over here =)
So here's the thing - in my estimation the primary thing that drives prices is the nostalgia of the generation that is currently coming into new *disposable income* . People want to play what they played when they were kids, and when the get to the point where they've graduated college, they don't have a family yet, they've finally got something better than a bottom of the barrel starter job... they've got cash that they want to spend. At this point that mostly describes people that are going to want games from fifth and sixth generation consoles. I think over the next 5 to 10 years those games are going to go up, and third and fourth will go down (especially third), and that cycle will continue through subsequent generations.
I remember a guy on Instagram who sold his complete NES collection even after selling his car for a stadium events. He now is into MTG while it's still trendy, it's all trends nowadays
I think prices will drop as everyone ages and naturally cares less and less. I'm 35, and It's the nostalgia of growing up with the NES that has made me want to try and collect as many games as I can. I went through a period of not caring or making much of an effort to keep buying random NES games and just by chance it was when prices were at their worst. I still collect now but I refuse to pay insane prices for rare games. I'm fine not having them, it really makes no sense to pay $1000 for a rare game even if I could afford it. I think prices drop when common sense kicks in, and also less people remembering or caring about the NES will drop prices of common games everyone had or played.
I’m in Japan right now and am amazed...they are dumping Famicom and Super Famicom games for nothing....Only a very few titles commanding any kind of high prices...I lived here for 10 years and have been back and forth over the last 10...never saw anything like this....It seems our childhood era is finally passing over here....ALSO...many people over here just selling on American EBAY....Things have changed.....
It's all us Westerners trying to pick up the games we never got to play from Japan I think, or otherwise have decided that the cheaper Super Famicom cart is better than paying the crazy SNES price. Even stuff like Saturn games it's nuts that the North American version is hundreds of dollars, but the Japanese version is selling for at least 50% or more less than that.
People who bought them for those huge prices were more in it for the status than the actual game. I'm glad to see the market drop so that people who actually give a shit will get their chance to try out these classic games
A properly archived cartridge with any batteries removed or regularly replaced might expect to last 50+ years. If stored any other way, it will vary greatly but as an electronic engineer and based on experience with older systems I'd expect to see the failure rate start to rapidly increase in the next few years. Price should be going down in this couple of years by law the older it’s less worth 😔 some day the nes will die also all the retro CRT TV’S where it was Design and meant to play
They'll drop bigtime. Nostalgia is what drives up prices and fewer and fewer people will be interested over the years. Most young people find the games, to quote them, "crap" already. Heck most young people consider ps1 "crap" and even laugh at PS2 games. Yes, there's some exceptions, but step outside of the enthusiast arena and you'll see it's true.
The value of money itself changes, i.e. inflation. If we see a big drop in the value of the dollar (through losing world reserve currency status, over-printing, etc) money will flood into tangible, collectible items.
Misrepresenting of the condition of graded coins has be illegal since 1990, because a owner of WATA was committing fraud by cracking low scoring graded coins. Dipping them and cleaning them. Then grading that coin with a much higher grade from his own grading company. It appears they maybe doing the same thing again but with graded games. Since there is no verbatim FTC or Federal ruling on Misrepresenting condition of graded video games.
The house analogy doesn't quite work. You get a beat up house and upgrade it, it normally sells for a good chunk more. There's a whole business for it.
I would be surprised if NES games drop as low as Atari 2600 games. The reason why is because NES is far more ingrained into our culture. While yes, the Atari 2600 is relatively well known, but in no point in my life has the Atari 2600 got as much attention as the NES, as many references on TV shows, as many people openly proclaiming their love for the system. 10 years ago if you were to visit a store catering to geeks, they would have t-shirts, pins and so on with NES stuff on them, and the same is still true. At most you could find an Atari 2600 t-shirt, if you were lucky. So this alone I think will prevent NES games from dropping to Atari 2600 levels.
@@paulmueller1520 Well, shows wanting to show games, and more "geeky" stuff from before the NES was released would of course likely go with the Atari, but shows set after 85? That's when the NES ruled. And heck, you even see shows set in modern times make references back to the NES, you never really did that with the 2600 after its prime, other than the possibly shows borrwing some sound effects that would be at home on the 2600 for computer or game sound effects.
I guess one thing that you could compare it to is vinyl, and even after 50 years some of the best selling and highest regarded albums still can be found for reasonable prices.
If you wanna make that comparison, pre-NES stuff is like cylinders and 10" albums, NES games are like 12" mono records. The amount of people still interested in those periods of music are miniscule and dwindling. Some will always fetch crazy prices, but it's not an evergreen market just because the medium is evergreen.
I respectfully disagree, the prices I am looking at in Canada are about the same as they have been for a while now. The sold carts that I am seeing have damaged labels and they are cheaper for a reason. I believe they will increase moderately just like wages and the cost of living. I think they are worth holding on to and the value will stay the same or increase slightly. Certain games may drop like snow bros but who knows the rarer ones may rise or drop slightly. Just my 2 cents anyway
It'll be like atari 2600 eventually. The gameplay of these games hold up more than atari 2600's, but still there will be less overall interest by the public.
Completely agree interest dwindles there's a rise of interest in PS2 original Xbox games GameCube games now even Xbox 360 ps3 games as different generations have more interest in different games and systems even now I see less and less interest generally outside of dedicated groups for early NES in general there's still a market out there but it not growing.
There will always be interest in retro games and original hardware and Every console has shuffle wear worth a buck a piece. That doesnt mean that the market will crash for titles that we have always loved and played, or even some hidden gems and uncommon titles. The market has almost stabilized for nes loose cartridge prices and I dont see long time collectors selling collections all at once for Penny's on the dollar they used to purchase the games. In my opinion. I could be wrong.
When I go to the Portland Retro Game Expo I think of titles like Little Samson as museum pieces. I'll be looking over a booth and they'll have some games under glass and I'll see Little Samson or other really expensive games and think "oh cool, they have one of those" but I have no intention of buying one. I'm there to find games that I haven't seen in the local game stores that are reasonably priced titles.
I agree with the conversation, what is failing to be realized is that the market is going to go back down, then up agian, then down again, then up again....its not going to be flat and dead forever
We just went to a post San Diego Comic-Con convention and, similar to retro games, the high quality Marvel Infinity Guantlet that was asking for $200-250 a year ago is now $125. There were retro game booths as well and I noticed the prices for one usual vendor were definitely down from say $60 for a particular game to $40 this year. I think stores and convention vendors are going to have to cut costs to keep things going, there’s too many new games, ROM systems, and bootleg disc makers now and, honestly, I just don’t think there’s that many buyers in the area anymore that can still afford eBay prices in their local stores.
Hey cool! I was looking for cartridge images for a video I was making and saw that the thumbnail image of rare NES games y'all used was from my website. Awesome! Love seeing it, and love what y'all do :)
I don’t think that prices on NES games are going to go down. Kids today fetishize the NES. It has nothing to do with nostalgia, just idealism. There is a purity to it that is inherently attractive.
I noticed at my local store that gamecube and ps2 era games are shooting upwards and the nes titles are starting to fall. Twilight princess was 45 when i bought it in box with manual 2 years ago, it was 150 after tax in box last weekend smh
Honestly I think there will be always collector. The era of Nintendo NES and on is a lot different from pre-crash. However as collectors mature, so their wants and goals. In my case, I only collect CIB or sealed stuff that I have a connection with and recently started collecting for Neo Geo AES. Instead of going for full collections per platforms.
Collect only what's valuable to you and has meaning to you. Keep it small..Rare $1000 games don't seem appealing at all if I have no memory of playing it. The most I've spent was one $299 item but Its a Rare Pokemon Gameboy advance SP Venusaur edition in box/beautiful condition. Had great memories of playing Pokemon a lot and its something that I truly wanted. Most of the time I usually spend roughly $20-50 per item, a few $100-150 max on a single item. There's a difference being a collector for something that you enjoy, collecting to "invest", collecting to fill the shelf's. If you're looking to make money out of this, this is not what collecting is all about...because if it becomes worthless then it wouldn't matter. There are many other ways in life that includes losing money. Everything in life is a risk whether you either gain or lose.
Looking back at this I think you guys were 100% correct in all your assessments, but no one seen this pandemic coming and it made markets go crazy. It’s just baffling at game prices right now. Will it last or what exactly will this do to the market going forward? I honestly have no idea or even a guess, but we are living in crazy times right now. Speculation and fomo are the driving forces imo.
I think prices have hit a plateau for the most part. There are fluctuations in any market but for the most part id say things are going to trend upward for the long term just at a very slow rate. Games are never going to plummet in value and stay there. Im sure if there was ever a "crash" more dedicated collectors like myself would swoop in and buy up tons of stuff raising the prices right back up. Games especially nes and snes were our generations childhood. Most of those markets stick around. Every generation has their nostalgia market. 40 years from now maybe. But the 16 bit era is still capturing new audiences all the time. We share with our kids and make new fans. The biggest thing right now is we are separating the true collectors from the meek.
I just went with the PAL versions for most of these games and saved a ton of money. The only trade-off is that the music is slightly faster, but it's better than getting a repro cart and they are still in English.
Loose carts will drop to mid 2000s prices. The main reason I believe this is because of the ease and availability to play these nes games. They can be played on emulator, nes classic, and probably most Nintendo consoles going forward via the subscription. The prices will drop, but I don't see them dropping to 2600 prices due to Nintendo still being relevant today.
I keep thinking I should sell my rare stuff now but the stupid collector mindset keeps my wanting to hold on. I’m gonna be kicking myself in 10 years and I don’t even have anything close to little Samson levels
I feel like the high price bubble has to pop sooner or later. I know this goes against the rules of Nintendo value but I feel like people are just going to get tired of paying high prices for simple games. Especially with more cost effective alternatives around. (And upgraded ports.) That and the hardware is going to start failing sooner or later. Game cartridges and worn CD's are beginning to show their age.
sonic dv exactly, I'm into magic the gathering and the cards that are played a lot and not reprinted go up consistently. The drops only happen when the reprints happen or the demand falls off. But even with less demand the prices stay high. No major drops
@@Clay3613 they did reprint I recall street fighter that glows in the dark and people went nuts cause they wanted the rare variant 🙄 also have people who own companies that do reprint on rare games that they now own the Ip or at least own the right to make copies again. So yes they could reprint the video games if the demand is there.
10 years ago the only way common folks had to play Nintendo games was by buying the games and finding their old nes and hooking it up. Today, people have more and easier methods of playing old nes games. It really eliminates the need for physical carts. 10 years from now could be even more so.
I hate to tell everybody this, but if the cartridge has a capacitor and/or battery in it; it will more than likely be toast in 10 years, thus worth nothing. Some electronic components have a limited lifespan, and the caps on most of the carts are of low quality and are often of the surface mount type. It's miraculous that most are working now. If they are worth something after they're not functional, that would be a surprise.
I don't think the floor for the truly rare and desirable stuff is going to fall out. Yes, it will for the commons and some of the undesirable titles. But I think, as time goes on, condition of the game becomes a bigger determinant of value than it is now.
It makes me wonder how pinball prices will shape. Most popular ones were produced in quantities between 10-20k and in 2002 when arcades went to hell these machines in great condition could be purchased for like 500 bucks.. and now it's 6x that price or even more for certain titles.
Both of you are wrong. Prices will fluctuate, but there will be no $1 games and as long as reproductions are available people will always pick a reproduction on the higher price games.
Its not the carts that are worth anything. (some are) Its the boxes, those carts came in. Thats where the moneys at. Back then those nes boxes weren't meant to be saved. For example: Super mario cart by itself 10$. Super mario complete in box (hang tab) 200$ and it keeps going up.
part of that too is I kept my games for so long.. in 2012 I started selling some of my games but I kept my original NES stuff and in fact kept buying NES stuff up until a few years ago and I still will if I get a good deal.. just haven't in awhile
A lot has to do with what the economy is going to be like in 10 years time as well. This country is around 22 Trillion dollars in dept, SO we very well could be looking at another Great Depression at some point in the next 5-10 years, IF we go into a situation where 60% of the country is out of work, and we have soup kitchens, and bread lines, everything from Classic Cars to Vinyl Records to Video Game Collections, will be getting sold off for pennies on the dollar just to make house payments/ put food on the table.
You sound just like one of those Montana survivalist apocalypse nuts. You got your bunker all ready for when the bombs drop? Seriously though that isnt going to happen. NES games aren't going to be worth as much because once my generation (I'm 39) that grew up playing these NES games gets their fill of nostalgia now or has already has got it in the past 5 years in this nostalgia remake reboot era we live in, I can guarantee that in 10 years when were all about 50 years old most of us aren't going to give a shit about reliving/wanting to play these or own any of this anymore. Our priorities will shift to less manchildren type stuff hopefully.
@@quibquatch3975 People who never grew up in the days of Golden and Silver Age comics are spending tens of thousands on certain issues. So there will always be a buyer for rare and famous games.
@@Clay3613 The golden age of comics appeals to a more broader audience than video games. Comic book characters such as Spider Man, Batman, Superman etc., spans across multiple media on a much larger scale. Batman and Superman will always be considered "classic", while Super Mario is more of a 80's/90's generational cultural nerd niche of people. Some NES games are "classic", don't get me wrong, but not even the same way and scale of Golden Age of comics. Those will have way lasting staying power and value than video games. Comics are a printed art form to be looked at, and video games are meant to be played on electronic devices. Two completely different things, and printed art is more accessible than some adult picking up a controller.
@Coaxial Flutter I am NOT a survivalist nut job, so you are WRONG about that, and I am 46 years old, will be 47 next month, so I am close enough to your age to have grown up playing the same games you did, I got my NES IN 1986 so I was about 14 years old you would have been around 7 in 1986, SO while I am a bit older we were still in the same "age group" when it came to the NES and SNES era of video games. SO grow the fuck up when it comes to the fact that this country is 22 TRILLION DOLLARS in dept, at what point does the rest of the world say, YEAH we are not going to buy up any more of your dept? and what point does the US say, yeah we can no longer pay social security payments, OR you will all have to go from getting 1300+ down you 600 dollars a month. The point I brought up was a valid point and you chose to look at it as some kind of rant on "DOOMS DAY" at 39 years of age you should be more mature in your responses to actual facts about how the economy now and what the economy 10 years from now MIGHT have an impact on video game collecting, or any other collections. Your Response is the kind of response from a 16-25 year old. Your 39, quit acting like someone half your age.
@@tbirum whoa there, slow down guy. Obviously you can't take a joke, but your twelve page essay response isn't helping you not look like you are sorta bananers. Going off about the government economy in debt and politics, and correlating that with video game collecting is sorta weird. Also a simple request, know the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE, especially if YOU'RE 46 years old. Anyways byeeeeeeee
Ian is right, car people do the same crap. They put 10k into a piece of crap and think its worth 10k. I got like 5k into this crusty old 51 chevy truck honestly I’d be happy to get 2 out of it. Maybe if i hold out forever some sucker will pay that much but i just want it gone
It's hard to say because most collectors are hoarding their favorite game over and multiple copies every color and revision of a console. Alot of people have stacks on stacks of games and multiple consoles... theres garages and storage units warehouses with overflow it just takes time for these people to either pass on or sell and that's when the market goes up and down. I myself collect one copy of a game and try for it to be complete if I can get a deal I'll buy another copy but thats rare for me especially where I live (NE) I have to rely on Ebay and that's a nightmare. You wont be able to walk into a store or flee market in Nebraska and hope to find anything in a like new condtion or have the box and paperwork that just has never happen for me but I see videos where people in other parts of the US can walk into stores and thrift and find gems but that's not happening here they put it behind glass lock up and mark the price for the highest sold on ebay most games have scratches dirt and corroded pins and part of the label missing or a sticker at the worst part lol.
That's not how it works. The prices drop because the demand goes low, the demand on fads never bounces back because other fads take over and previous fads become stigmatized, so prices never go high again. It happened to CPK dolls, Tickle me Elmos, comic books, and, most recently, mini consoles.
I buy old videogames to play them not hold onto them, frankly I hate the investors and collectors. I mean if you aren't going to play/enjoy them.....what's the point in spending money on them at all?
nes game prices will fluctuate as they always did but youtubers create spikes for certain games remember in 2015 or so when mario 3 was 50 dollars it regularly sells for fifteen dollars now at ebay auction and it takes most of a week long auction to reach that price remember the most desirable titles are the most produced titles and therefore none are worth more than 15 dollars each
There are other factors like strength of the economy and inflation. Plus if some clownish idea is implemented such as universal basic income(giving each citizen $1000 a month for doing nothing) you will see prices rise all over the place. I see prices remaining fairly stagnant unless some outlier event happens and prices spike or crash. If things remain fairly constant I still say the big crash will come when collectors start retiring and dying. I think there is overall too much of everything available in the hobby and I just doubt there will be enough of a market to absorb a huge sell off. Especially if the sellers just want to dump and cash out as fast as possible.
What do you think the NES game market will look like in 10 years? Worth more? Back to pre-2006 prices? 90s prices?
Pat the NES Punk how many games will the legend Tim Atwood have in 10 years?
I just sold little samson two weeks ago for $1,099.00 and a decent samson box for $850.00 last week
I'd love a Little Samson, but I'll never pay what people want for it. If I ever own it, it will be because I bought a lot from someone sight unseen and it turns out to be in it.
When Pat sells his collection then everyone else will.
Prices will fluctuate, like with any market, but they're not going to drastically drop in price or tank...
If you want them "Little Samsons", you're not only going to be paying for the game, you're also gonna be forking over that "finders fee"... Otherwise, good luck with your journey finding this at a yard sale bud... lol...
If you're buying old games to make a profit later down the road, then you aren't a collector, you're an investor.
Retro video games is a horrible investment. As time goes by more and more people become disinterested in old video games. The newer generation is not going to care about NES games when they are i their 20s and 30s. Prices are going to go down on these games and systems as the demand for them also goes down.
@@Chaoitcme well if the new generation doesn't care then you failed as a parent.
@@FirestoneX Well, I am not a parent. And if I was I would not force my interests on my children. I would let them decide what they personally like or dislike. You fail as a parent if you force your kids to do things that they don't like.
Games, comic books, online bad businesses, tulips. Once the bubble burst, they are worthless. All fads are terrible investments.
And it's a terrible investment.
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The funny thing is that even if the games stayed at the SAME value ($10 for example), you actually LOST money in 10 years because of inflation.
pre-2006 NES prices, what a beautiful dream...
That’s what they were doing! Dreaming! Prices are at an all time high right now! And we are almost four years out of Covid!
Boomers are dying off and a newer generation wont be interested in 80s 8bit games. Well see a rise in demand for game cube and n64 games once all the gen Yers hit mid 20s to early 30s, its already happening. It's basic economics.
Boomers are not the generation associated with 8 bit gaming... that would be the forgotten generation: gen X'rs. We are not dying off; we are in our 40's and early 50's. My father was a boomer, his generation had practically no association with videogames at all.
You don’t even know what a boomer is lol boomers were in there 30s and 40s in the 70s and 80s
The value of anything is whatever someone is willing to pay
The real bidding doesn't happen until the last 5 seconds on eBay auctions and the price shoots right up
Bid sniping. I use gixen.
- Jim Halperin owns WATA. Jim Halperin owns heritage auction. Jim Halperin is one of the three people that bought that $100,000 SMB
- WATA recruits people with raw games.
- WATA over states the condition of a item. (their grading scale is also misleading) Their 9.8 A+ are not even 80-85 VGA attempts.
- Heritage decides what the price of an item should be and start pushing the price.
- the auction opens and Heritage Auction uses undisclosed shill bidders to bid agents their own customers and drive up the sale price.
- Heritage auction then contacts news outlets and gets a puff piece written.
- IF heritage auction shill bidding wins the auction they get news outlets to write a puff piece about how "some collector" made this amazing purchase.
That SMB fraudulent purchase has a lot of potential crimes. Also possible wire fraud. If any of those guys used a bank to get a loan that's also bank fraud. If it was worth 100k why did it take 3 people to get to that price? why are all the people that made that purchase involved in WATA and/or heritage auctions?
Hope it does drop. Great. More affordable for those of us who just want to play on original hardware and not spend a whole paycheck on a single game.Yay!
Or you could always just buy a flashcart
A hacked NES classic has the feel of the original hardware but it's a lot more convenient (save states, always works, HDMI, etc). Or just get a flash cart if you want to use the original hardware. There is absolutely no advantage to having the original game.
@@ZefTillDeath8878 Scrambled graphics and game glitches for nostalgia factor.
@@ZefTillDeath8878 saying there is absolutely no advantage to having the original game is 100 percent incorrect. There is lag, graphics differences, and just the fact you aren't using the actual cart that someone else used in the 80's and 90's is kinda cheesy. If you want proof, watch my life in gaming's videos on how it differs, especially for speed running.
@Asrath Qathreth Where's the fun in that!?
I started to dump my collection in 2012 -2016, prices were getting high, I needed to pay for things, have 20k worth in games in my early 20's I decided to cash out. I had bought some atlas games for ps1 about 7 years earlier and they never went up just stayed the same. I just wasn't happy having so much stuff in my life and was seeking to be more or a minimalist. I can say I was both a Collector and Investor later. I started collecting when I was about 7 keeping every system and game box they came in.
20 years ago. I couldn't give NES gsmes away.
I remember buying nintendo 64 games for 50 cents in the early 2000's. No one wanted them.
I wish I wanted to play old games back then
I bought contra for .50 from Funcoland in 99
I really enjoyed watching Pat the NES Punk and a bunch of other retro game UA-camrs back in 2014 (which seemed like the peak of retro game collecting, at least it was for me). I still enjoy collecting and playing retro and import games, but I've been so disconnected from the hobby for a while. I feel like this was the first Completely Unnecessary Podcast that I've seen in years. It's very interesting to hear the current state of NES collecting from Pat and Ian.
I actually love Ghost Lion. I think it's a highly underrated JRPG on NES. Very under the radar!
Sure but no one wants to but it.
@@PatTheNESpunk You mean buy it, right?
@@PatTheNESpunk I bought it last year for about $60 and had no qualms about the price once I played it :D. It might not be for the masses but there's a niche market there like me.
I would grab that game but it's like 300 on ebay now :/
This is one of my FAV topics and it's not limited to NES games. We need alot more shows like this for alot of topics. Thanks for the vid guys.
If this is true then you should sell your NES collection now Pat, then buy it back 10 years from now.
Absolutely!!
Can I short sell NES games?
@@StompedKoopas how the heck would you do that?
Absolutely. Go sell your video game collection Pat if you think it wont be worth anything in 10 years. We will all happily buy them, and resell them later on.
All of Nintendo's own games, your Marios, Zeldas, Metroids, Punchouts will retain value. Ninja Gaiden. Contra. Castlevania. Megaman. A few others that don't come to mind. Those IPs have cache that will always retain value.
Otherwise, there's a ton of run of the mill licensed/third party games that will drop significantly. Bear in mind those of us who actually grew up with these games are now 40-50 years old and will probably be selling alot of this stuff soon, as life at this stage makes collecting plastic carts with 1s and 0s more and more impractical. The market for NES is about to get a ton of inventory over the next 5 years.
I think there will continue to be collectors, though possibly fewer, and that the condition of the games will make more and more difference in their sale value. The nice boxed ones will retain value, if not go up, while bare carts and such will go down or, if they're already very low, stay around the same price.
@@ericwood3709 yeah I agree with that
You can now get better more convenient versions of all those games
According to Pat's NES Collecting App, my collection is worth X amount of dollars. I'm still hoping for the NES market to crash because I don't care if X suddenly becomes .001 percent of its value. I like having/playing/ collecting these games and I don't see myself ever selling them. The sooner the crash, the more I can buy and play without feeling like I'm breaking the bank.
Same here. I've never kept my games as a retirement fund, more like for retirement fun. I've been waiting for the crash for so long, I'm glad is getting closer and closer as the decade is coming to an end.
The NES is probably my favorite console, but if the prices all went down I'd be buying more games right away. I stopped because of the current prices.
Future me: Bonks Adventure, Little Samson, Panic Restaurant here I come!
🤝
I've lost my appetite for collecting the physical games due to the combination of lack of space and being able to play any game I want through emulation. I am keeping my childhood games and consoles, though, for sentimental reasons.
I agree I was collecting prior to the crazy prices and now I just pick up games that I feel are a fair price.
Yep and the moment the price falls the demand will rise. Then people will up prices again. That is why you won't see it drop much.
@@chestercopperpot9459 That isn't how it works. Demand is high right now so prices are high. When demand falls the prices will fall and they will stay there because the demand will remain low. The majority of the people that actually want these games to keep have them. When the prices fall the speculators will lose interest. The casuals that are just into it because it is popular will lose interest. And there will be no one to replace these people. Those of us just waiting for the prices to fall won't be enough to push them back up. Because personally I won't pay more than 20 to 30 for any of these games. If they cost more than that I simply won't buy them.
I have some ps1 games that I paid more for than I care to admit, but I got them because I have personal attachments to the games.
They're not there for symbol status or to fill out a meaningless collection, and I certainly have no desire to sell them off no matter how much value they gain or lose.
In ten years I'll still have those games for my personal enjoyment, while hipster collectors will only be able to worry about the money they lost.
True passion!
same here man i started collecting all the old games that i loved as a kid and have no plans of ever letting them go again
CIB and sealed will continue to go up for some time. Common carts will definitely drop and already have to some extent.
Agreed and Pat just bought a sticker seal Mario because he knows this. Prices for condition, print run, and sealed are on fire like it’s 2012 again.
Wrong
7 years to go, this is not going to age well.
So i agree somewhat, but my friend owns a very successful Video Game store and the customers are younger and younger which means though prices may drop the supply will as well. Stabilized prices due to increased intrest and demand...
“GhostLion will be in the $2 NES bin in 5 years!” Wow!
lol ! Wrong it’s like 125.00 right now! They blew it on this prediction!
I would love to see a video on stuff like gameboy advance which seems like it keeps going up for some reason.
Zev Zero i got in on GBA stuff about 8 years ago. I haven't checked prices in a while. The pokemon games used to be the most expensive, about 40-50 each. Luckily I got the the more expensive games early on. BTW: I'm a collector/gamer, absolutely no intentions of profit.
At least we know that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde on the NES will still be worth a lot in 10 years, lol.
Little Samson is $2,500 right now
I wonder if “the guy with the accent” was BeatEmUpsWood.
A SCN (scandinavian) version of Little Samson complete with box and manual in OK condition just sold for 250$ + shipping here on Swedish Ebay (called Tradera), i guess we ain't as crazy about those rare games over here =)
So here's the thing - in my estimation the primary thing that drives prices is the nostalgia of the generation that is currently coming into new *disposable income* . People want to play what they played when they were kids, and when the get to the point where they've graduated college, they don't have a family yet, they've finally got something better than a bottom of the barrel starter job... they've got cash that they want to spend. At this point that mostly describes people that are going to want games from fifth and sixth generation consoles. I think over the next 5 to 10 years those games are going to go up, and third and fourth will go down (especially third), and that cycle will continue through subsequent generations.
I remember a guy on Instagram who sold his complete NES collection even after selling his car for a stadium events. He now is into MTG while it's still trendy, it's all trends nowadays
MTG has become nothing a speculators scene, plus you have to pay money to play unlike D&D.
MTG was trendy in 1995 lol
I think prices will drop as everyone ages and naturally cares less and less. I'm 35, and It's the nostalgia of growing up with the NES that has made me want to try and collect as many games as I can. I went through a period of not caring or making much of an effort to keep buying random NES games and just by chance it was when prices were at their worst. I still collect now but I refuse to pay insane prices for rare games. I'm fine not having them, it really makes no sense to pay $1000 for a rare game even if I could afford it. I think prices drop when common sense kicks in, and also less people remembering or caring about the NES will drop prices of common games everyone had or played.
I’m in Japan right now and am amazed...they are dumping Famicom and Super Famicom games for nothing....Only a very few titles commanding any kind of high prices...I lived here for 10 years and have been back and forth over the last 10...never saw anything like this....It seems our childhood era is finally passing over here....ALSO...many people over here just selling on American EBAY....Things have changed.....
It's all us Westerners trying to pick up the games we never got to play from Japan I think, or otherwise have decided that the cheaper Super Famicom cart is better than paying the crazy SNES price. Even stuff like Saturn games it's nuts that the North American version is hundreds of dollars, but the Japanese version is selling for at least 50% or more less than that.
I have about 400 nes games and I started collecting my old childhood things. Combined I have not spent a thousand bucks to get what I have.
People who bought them for those huge prices were more in it for the status than the actual game. I'm glad to see the market drop so that people who actually give a shit will get their chance to try out these classic games
crazy to think they are up on average 57% since this video. =O
A properly archived cartridge with any batteries removed or regularly replaced might expect to last 50+ years. If stored any other way, it will vary greatly but as an electronic engineer and based on experience with older systems I'd expect to see the failure rate start to rapidly increase in the next few years. Price should be going down in this couple of years by law the older it’s less worth 😔 some day the nes will die also all the retro CRT TV’S where it was Design and meant to play
They'll drop bigtime.
Nostalgia is what drives up prices and fewer and fewer people will be interested over the years.
Most young people find the games, to quote them, "crap" already. Heck most young people consider ps1 "crap" and even laugh at PS2 games.
Yes, there's some exceptions, but step outside of the enthusiast arena and you'll see it's true.
The value of money itself changes, i.e. inflation. If we see a big drop in the value of the dollar (through losing world reserve currency status, over-printing, etc) money will flood into tangible, collectible items.
I don't go to conventions to buy games anymore. I go to hang out and see people that I haven't seen in a while.
Misrepresenting of the condition of graded coins has be illegal since 1990, because a owner of WATA was committing fraud by cracking low scoring graded coins. Dipping them and cleaning them. Then grading that coin with a much higher grade from his own grading company. It appears they maybe doing the same thing again but with graded games. Since there is no verbatim FTC or Federal ruling on Misrepresenting condition of graded video games.
The house analogy doesn't quite work. You get a beat up house and upgrade it, it normally sells for a good chunk more. There's a whole business for it.
Just a heads up your audio and video sync is a bit off ! Otherwise great video.
I would be surprised if NES games drop as low as Atari 2600 games. The reason why is because NES is far more ingrained into our culture. While yes, the Atari 2600 is relatively well known, but in no point in my life has the Atari 2600 got as much attention as the NES, as many references on TV shows, as many people openly proclaiming their love for the system. 10 years ago if you were to visit a store catering to geeks, they would have t-shirts, pins and so on with NES stuff on them, and the same is still true. At most you could find an Atari 2600 t-shirt, if you were lucky. So this alone I think will prevent NES games from dropping to Atari 2600 levels.
@@paulmueller1520 Well, shows wanting to show games, and more "geeky" stuff from before the NES was released would of course likely go with the Atari, but shows set after 85? That's when the NES ruled. And heck, you even see shows set in modern times make references back to the NES, you never really did that with the 2600 after its prime, other than the possibly shows borrwing some sound effects that would be at home on the 2600 for computer or game sound effects.
The $600 ebay Little Samson 2 bidders any money on the 2 bidders are the same people selling at $1500
I had no idea!
No one other that the current generation will probably care about NES and rare games. Will be elvis collectables again
What is crazy to me is that people collect nes and they didn’t grow up with it.
@@thepolacek shocks me too
I’ll never get rid of my PS2 and PS2 imports or my other games no matter how old I am
I guess one thing that you could compare it to is vinyl, and even after 50 years some of the best selling and highest regarded albums still can be found for reasonable prices.
If you wanna make that comparison, pre-NES stuff is like cylinders and 10" albums, NES games are like 12" mono records. The amount of people still interested in those periods of music are miniscule and dwindling. Some will always fetch crazy prices, but it's not an evergreen market just because the medium is evergreen.
Chinese multicast will fill all collectors needs in 10 years
These guys have been predicting a huge crash since 2013. Its almost like they want it to crash.
They do but it won't
I respectfully disagree, the prices I am looking at in Canada are about the same as they have been for a while now. The sold carts that I am seeing have damaged labels and they are cheaper for a reason. I believe they will increase moderately just like wages and the cost of living. I think they are worth holding on to and the value will stay the same or increase slightly. Certain games may drop like snow bros but who knows the rarer ones may rise or drop slightly. Just my 2 cents anyway
It'll be like atari 2600 eventually. The gameplay of these games hold up more than atari 2600's, but still there will be less overall interest by the public.
Completely agree interest dwindles there's a rise of interest in PS2 original Xbox games GameCube games now even Xbox 360 ps3 games as different generations have more interest in different games and systems even now I see less and less interest generally outside of dedicated groups for early NES in general there's still a market out there but it not growing.
Oh, crap, I better start selling
My rule of thumb is:
If the game's mascot appears as a playable character in Smash, then their games will always hold some value.
There will always be interest in retro games and original hardware and Every console has shuffle wear worth a buck a piece. That doesnt mean that the market will crash for titles that we have always loved and played, or even some hidden gems and uncommon titles. The market has almost stabilized for nes loose cartridge prices and I dont see long time collectors selling collections all at once for Penny's on the dollar they used to purchase the games. In my opinion. I could be wrong.
I bought all my stuff at garage sales for like $1-$5 so either way make a profit! Granted i had to clean them etc.
When I go to the Portland Retro Game Expo I think of titles like Little Samson as museum pieces. I'll be looking over a booth and they'll have some games under glass and I'll see Little Samson or other really expensive games and think "oh cool, they have one of those" but I have no intention of buying one. I'm there to find games that I haven't seen in the local game stores that are reasonably priced titles.
I agree with the conversation, what is failing to be realized is that the market is going to go back down, then up agian, then down again, then up again....its not going to be flat and dead forever
We just went to a post San Diego Comic-Con convention and, similar to retro games, the high quality Marvel Infinity Guantlet that was asking for $200-250 a year ago is now $125. There were retro game booths as well and I noticed the prices for one usual vendor were definitely down from say $60 for a particular game to $40 this year. I think stores and convention vendors are going to have to cut costs to keep things going, there’s too many new games, ROM systems, and bootleg disc makers now and, honestly, I just don’t think there’s that many buyers in the area anymore that can still afford eBay prices in their local stores.
Hey cool! I was looking for cartridge images for a video I was making and saw that the thumbnail image of rare NES games y'all used was from my website. Awesome! Love seeing it, and love what y'all do :)
Looks up ghost lion... $150+ loose.
The shipping on that damn book is as much as the cost of the book. No thanks Pat!
I don’t think that prices on NES games are going to go down. Kids today fetishize the NES. It has nothing to do with nostalgia, just idealism. There is a purity to it that is inherently attractive.
Goal 2 NES loose is currently sitting at $35.00 on 5/9/24 - everything is still expensive.
Sorry Pat, but you were wrong on this one! 😂Little Sampson is 2,500 now, and every game is at an all time high!
I noticed at my local store that gamecube and ps2 era games are shooting upwards and the nes titles are starting to fall. Twilight princess was 45 when i bought it in box with manual 2 years ago, it was 150 after tax in box last weekend smh
Honestly I think there will be always collector. The era of Nintendo NES and on is a lot different from pre-crash. However as collectors mature, so their wants and goals. In my case, I only collect CIB or sealed stuff that I have a connection with and recently started collecting for Neo Geo AES. Instead of going for full collections per platforms.
Collect only what's valuable to you and has meaning to you. Keep it small..Rare $1000 games don't seem appealing at all if I have no memory of playing it. The most I've spent was one $299 item but Its a Rare Pokemon Gameboy advance SP Venusaur edition in box/beautiful condition. Had great memories of playing Pokemon a lot and its something that I truly wanted. Most of the time I usually spend roughly $20-50 per item, a few $100-150 max on a single item. There's a difference being a collector for something that you enjoy, collecting to "invest", collecting to fill the shelf's. If you're looking to make money out of this, this is not what collecting is all about...because if it becomes worthless then it wouldn't matter. There are many other ways in life that includes losing money. Everything in life is a risk whether you either gain or lose.
Looking back at this I think you guys were 100% correct in all your assessments, but no one seen this pandemic coming and it made markets go crazy. It’s just baffling at game prices right now. Will it last or what exactly will this do to the market going forward? I honestly have no idea or even a guess, but we are living in crazy times right now. Speculation and fomo are the driving forces imo.
I think prices have hit a plateau for the most part. There are fluctuations in any market but for the most part id say things are going to trend upward for the long term just at a very slow rate. Games are never going to plummet in value and stay there. Im sure if there was ever a "crash" more dedicated collectors like myself would swoop in and buy up tons of stuff raising the prices right back up. Games especially nes and snes were our generations childhood. Most of those markets stick around. Every generation has their nostalgia market. 40 years from now maybe. But the 16 bit era is still capturing new audiences all the time. We share with our kids and make new fans. The biggest thing right now is we are separating the true collectors from the meek.
I just went with the PAL versions for most of these games and saved a ton of money. The only trade-off is that the music is slightly faster, but it's better than getting a repro cart and they are still in English.
Loose carts will drop to mid 2000s prices.
The main reason I believe this is because of the ease and availability to play these nes games. They can be played on emulator, nes classic, and probably most Nintendo consoles going forward via the subscription.
The prices will drop, but I don't see them dropping to 2600 prices due to Nintendo still being relevant today.
10 years from now I won't be collecting.. I've already cut my collection down under 1000 games... and that's for all systems..
I keep thinking I should sell my rare stuff now but the stupid collector mindset keeps my wanting to hold on. I’m gonna be kicking myself in 10 years and I don’t even have anything close to little Samson levels
As for NES games and SNES games I have all of them ever made on both the NES & SNES mini’s
I feel like the high price bubble has to pop sooner or later.
I know this goes against the rules of Nintendo value but I feel like people are just going to get tired of paying high prices for simple games. Especially with more cost effective alternatives around. (And upgraded ports.)
That and the hardware is going to start failing sooner or later. Game cartridges and worn CD's are beginning to show their age.
Wouldn't that just make them more expensive? They become rarer
sonic dv exactly, I'm into magic the gathering and the cards that are played a lot and not reprinted go up consistently. The drops only happen when the reprints happen or the demand falls off. But even with less demand the prices stay high. No major drops
@@nikmidclayton5933 The cards can always be reprinted though, just like coins can be re-minted. Unlike 8-16 bit video games.
@@Clay3613 they did reprint I recall street fighter that glows in the dark and people went nuts cause they wanted the rare variant 🙄 also have people who own companies that do reprint on rare games that they now own the Ip or at least own the right to make copies again.
So yes they could reprint the video games if the demand is there.
10 years ago the only way common folks had to play Nintendo games was by buying the games and finding their old nes and hooking it up. Today, people have more and easier methods of playing old nes games. It really eliminates the need for physical carts. 10 years from now could be even more so.
I hate to tell everybody this, but if the cartridge has a capacitor and/or battery in it; it will more than likely be toast in 10 years, thus worth nothing.
Some electronic components have a limited lifespan, and the caps on most of the carts are of low quality and are often of the surface mount type. It's miraculous that most are working now.
If they are worth something after they're not functional, that would be a surprise.
I don't think the floor for the truly rare and desirable stuff is going to fall out. Yes, it will for the commons and some of the undesirable titles. But I think, as time goes on, condition of the game becomes a bigger determinant of value than it is now.
It makes me wonder how pinball prices will shape. Most popular ones were produced in quantities between 10-20k and in 2002 when arcades went to hell these machines in great condition could be purchased for like 500 bucks.. and now it's 6x that price or even more for certain titles.
but you cant play pinball on other systems like you can on nes etc, emulation and mini consoles
Both of you are wrong. Prices will fluctuate, but there will be no $1 games and as long as reproductions are available people will always pick a reproduction on the higher price games.
Sold my collection in 2016 and never looked back.
10years from now....It's already started. Figures and toys are the go to now. Toys that made us is helping that.
Ghost Lion is a great game!
Its not the carts that are worth anything. (some are) Its the boxes, those carts came in. Thats where the moneys at. Back then those nes boxes weren't meant to be saved. For example: Super mario cart by itself 10$. Super mario complete in box (hang tab) 200$ and it keeps going up.
part of that too is I kept my games for so long.. in 2012 I started selling some of my games but I kept my original NES stuff and in fact kept buying NES stuff up until a few years ago and I still will if I get a good deal.. just haven't in awhile
Many will drop, but not to Atari levels. I expect Genesis and Saturn to start trending upwards though.
A lot has to do with what the economy is going to be like in 10 years time as well. This country is around 22 Trillion dollars in dept, SO we very well could be looking at another Great Depression at some point in the next 5-10 years, IF we go into a situation where 60% of the country is out of work, and we have soup kitchens, and bread lines, everything from Classic Cars to Vinyl Records to Video Game Collections, will be getting sold off for pennies on the dollar just to make house payments/ put food on the table.
You sound just like one of those Montana survivalist apocalypse nuts. You got your bunker all ready for when the bombs drop? Seriously though that isnt going to happen. NES games aren't going to be worth as much because once my generation (I'm 39) that grew up playing these NES games gets their fill of nostalgia now or has already has got it in the past 5 years in this nostalgia remake reboot era we live in, I can guarantee that in 10 years when were all about 50 years old most of us aren't going to give a shit about reliving/wanting to play these or own any of this anymore. Our priorities will shift to less manchildren type stuff hopefully.
@@quibquatch3975 People who never grew up in the days of Golden and Silver Age comics are spending tens of thousands on certain issues. So there will always be a buyer for rare and famous games.
@@Clay3613 The golden age of comics appeals to a more broader audience than video games. Comic book characters such as Spider Man, Batman, Superman etc., spans across multiple media on a much larger scale. Batman and Superman will always be considered "classic", while Super Mario is more of a 80's/90's generational cultural nerd niche of people. Some NES games are "classic", don't get me wrong, but not even the same way and scale of Golden Age of comics. Those will have way lasting staying power and value than video games. Comics are a printed art form to be looked at, and video games are meant to be played on electronic devices. Two completely different things, and printed art is more accessible than some adult picking up a controller.
@Coaxial Flutter I am NOT a survivalist nut job, so you are WRONG about that, and I am 46 years old, will be 47 next month, so I am close enough to your age to have grown up playing the same games you did, I got my NES IN 1986 so I was about 14 years old you would have been around 7 in 1986, SO while I am a bit older we were still in the same "age group" when it came to the NES and SNES era of video games. SO grow the fuck up when it comes to the fact that this country is 22 TRILLION DOLLARS in dept, at what point does the rest of the world say, YEAH we are not going to buy up any more of your dept? and what point does the US say, yeah we can no longer pay social security payments, OR you will all have to go from getting 1300+ down you 600 dollars a month. The point I brought up was a valid point and you chose to look at it as some kind of rant on "DOOMS DAY" at 39 years of age you should be more mature in your responses to actual facts about how the economy now and what the economy 10 years from now MIGHT have an impact on video game collecting, or any other collections. Your Response is the kind of response from a 16-25 year old. Your 39, quit acting like someone half your age.
@@tbirum whoa there, slow down guy. Obviously you can't take a joke, but your twelve page essay response isn't helping you not look like you are sorta bananers. Going off about the government economy in debt and politics, and correlating that with video game collecting is sorta weird. Also a simple request, know the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE, especially if YOU'RE 46 years old. Anyways byeeeeeeee
Ian is right, car people do the same crap. They put 10k into a piece of crap and think its worth 10k. I got like 5k into this crusty old 51 chevy truck honestly I’d be happy to get 2 out of it. Maybe if i hold out forever some sucker will pay that much but i just want it gone
2010-13... Right when collecting or recollecting became not very economical with the NES.
That's why I went with Sega, and I'm glad I did.
this did not age well.... little sampson is trending at $2200 loose lol
Bad investment buy games you want to play it's a hobby not an investment. Go buy real estate if you want to make money. Have fun!!!
Agreed, Its a hobby not an investment. It's meant to be for fun.
Why not both? My bank account with profit injections would like to argue with your statement. ;)
It's hard to say because most collectors are hoarding their favorite game over and multiple copies every color and revision of a console. Alot of people have stacks on stacks of games and multiple consoles... theres garages and storage units warehouses with overflow it just takes time for these people to either pass on or sell and that's when the market goes up and down. I myself collect one copy of a game and try for it to be complete if I can get a deal I'll buy another copy but thats rare for me especially where I live (NE) I have to rely on Ebay and that's a nightmare. You wont be able to walk into a store or flee market in Nebraska and hope to find anything in a like new condtion or have the box and paperwork that just has never happen for me but I see videos where people in other parts of the US can walk into stores and thrift and find gems but that's not happening here they put it behind glass lock up and mark the price for the highest sold on ebay most games have scratches dirt and corroded pins and part of the label missing or a sticker at the worst part lol.
And then since the prices will drop the demand will raise more people will want to buy and the prices will sky rocket again..
That's not how it works. The prices drop because the demand goes low, the demand on fads never bounces back because other fads take over and previous fads become stigmatized, so prices never go high again. It happened to CPK dolls, Tickle me Elmos, comic books, and, most recently, mini consoles.
hopefully the chips hold out for another ten years because you might find the abundance of games you refer to might not be as big later on.
Is the battery running out in the 1-up button? Is its life...LIMITED?
I buy old videogames to play them not hold onto them, frankly I hate the investors and collectors. I mean if you aren't going to play/enjoy them.....what's the point in spending money on them at all?
Enjoy them by playing them
nes game prices will fluctuate as they always did but youtubers create spikes for certain games remember in 2015 or so when mario 3 was 50 dollars it regularly sells for fifteen dollars now at ebay auction and it takes most of a week long auction to reach that price
remember the most desirable titles are the most produced titles and therefore none are worth more than 15 dollars each
There are other factors like strength of the economy and inflation. Plus if some clownish idea is implemented such as universal basic income(giving each citizen $1000 a month for doing nothing) you will see prices rise all over the place. I see prices remaining fairly stagnant unless some outlier event happens and prices spike or crash.
If things remain fairly constant I still say the big crash will come when collectors start retiring and dying. I think there is overall too much of everything available in the hobby and I just doubt there will be enough of a market to absorb a huge sell off. Especially if the sellers just want to dump and cash out as fast as possible.
if you don't want your universal income check donate it or give it back
we're at the point where the cart shells are worth more than the common sport games