I use this with a red Komodo on a big FPV drone and it works great for that. I don't think I would want to use it very often handheld though. The need to calibrate the lens combo and the sync moves really makes it a lot more work... great video though
SteadXP has been around for many years. I don't know why they never tried to advertise it until this year when Sony already had it built-in in their cameras...
Well some of the new ibis systems are better than this, because no matter what he said in the video that its not DIS. It is DIS because it crops in the video. Such units like OIS and IBIS are all analog based which helps to maintain your full sensor size. But if they incorporate both it will just help more. Cause as his video showed in the software it cropped in very heavily, because of it being a DSLR making it where it can’t compensate for the heavy movement like IBIS would have. So I really do think they need to incorporate it, but both together is the best of both worlds.
Thanks for your video Tyler, I wanted to flag that as of now SteadXP doesn't deliver orders and acts like a dead business, but keeps collecting money from online orders. I strongly discourage to buy from them. Six months without replies to emails nor refunds.
It has to. Thats the only way this tech can work no matter who's technology is doing it. It's basically post stabilization (track motion in AE) but you're recording the camera movement rather than having your computer try to figure it out after the fact. So theoretically it would be faster than post stabilization and it is with Catalyst browse. I have never used this device so I don't know how fast it is.
Really nice to know such a genius product on market, although that imperfection stops me from purchasing it right now. Will keep an eye on it and hope it'll fix those bugs and become more user-friendly.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with it Tyler! Does it work well with longer focal lengths like 200-400mm? I'd love to see if those focal lengths on a gimbal combined with SteadXP create a near-Cineflex vibe.
Thanks for the follow-up, Tyler! I would gladly fund a Kickstarter for a v2 of the device + UI design. It’s very nearly a perfect solution, and so worthwhile to have a 3rd party device like SteadXP to be able to use on any camera, instead of being stuck with one system like sony.
Look, I have a question and maybe thats a great use for something like this, is there any way this can work as a virtual camera tracker in blender or c4D for compositing, I'm not that interested in the stabilization side, but if this can generate a perfect tracked virtual camera that would be awesome!
I have heard vfx people talking about this, i hope someone pulls it off. There are free open source projects like gyroflow that might make this happen. I have seen making their own "blackbox" and the results are better than steadxp
I contemplated digging into this after your first video, and after this one, the workflow just doesn't seem like it would be worth it, for any sort of project. Thanks for the followup!
Love your content and channel Have to respectfully disagree with one point. If you’re shooting with a degree of care FCPX stabilization is incredible ( as is PP and other plug in ) digital / post stabilization work flows. The amount of footage I’ve saved / used by running post stabilization on and had incredible results is countless. You can just slap it on and export, like you said - dial it down. If you’re getting shots especially for a film or paid work and post stabilization doesn’t give you butter smooth footage IMHO you need to go back to basics and get your filming / camera operation back in check ;) 🙏
To touch on Catalyst Browse and Sony's gyro system. Not unlike the Multi-Interface Shoe, this feature is something that all modern cameras should have. This is why companies like Tascam are currently working on a 3rd party solution for the MIS for Fuji and Canon. In regards to Catalyst Browse, it's a robust and easy-to-use system. Not just for Stabilization but for technical information about your videos, for browsing your videos, even color correcting. And yes very very good stabilization. You need to use a high shutterspeed, because of physics which is unfortunate. It seems that in order to gain some features modern Sony's are putting out it's opened a gap in the market for 3rd parties to fill the functions for other camera makers. In other words, if you shoot or will shoot Sony and wanted XLR audio paired with your video you'd get the MIS already, if you wanted very good stabilization you'd already get the Gryo and Catalyst Browse.
So this device doesn't deal with motion blur (which is all over the place) and usually gives away electronically stabilized footage? Sounds like a gimbal is still more practical.
Exactly, this is just software stabilization that every phone / gopro uses. It definitely has nothing to do with motion blurs and perspective distortions.
For those who are familiar with the insta360 range of cameras (I have the One R 1 Inch Edition), the FlowState stabilisation is akin to magic. If using nothing more than a selfie stick, not only does it look like you were filming on a dolly, it even removes horizon tilt. Granted, this is calibrated to the built-in lens modules, but there's nothing required than to turn on the camera and start filming. Even shooting at 24fps, the results are unbelievable. The software is also easy to use, though slow. So if this could be included in every camera, gimbals could well become a thing of the past. And also thanks for an honest review/feedback on this product.
This technology is super cool, but very cumbersome right now. I think that in a couple years we'll see cameras come with this pre-installed, which will be much easier from an operators standpoint. The thought of OIS, IBIS, and this working together in harmony in all the major camera brands will be truly revolutionary. Especially if you have all this working with traditional or electronic gimbals
Some of the new Sony cameras are already including it. Gyros in the camera record the movements as metadata that gets stabilized in their desktop "Catalyst" software.
This is old technology. The only difference is that it's not baked into the camera and better quality. I remember seeing camcorders decades ago that did this. They'd crop the sensor data to keep the center centered making it appear like the footage was being stabilized. Which I guess it kind of was.
@@pixxelpusher Sony has had the technology to do this in commercially available camcorders for decades. This is just an improvement on preexisting tech.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade I'm unaware of any consumer camera that's had 3-axis gyro in them apart from the newest line of Sony's (apart from 360 cameras that can do something similar as they capture the full 360 space and can essentially re-warp the view back to level for every frame using flowstate stabilisation which is amazing). Are you referring to sensor shifting? because even though similar in theory that's a bit different and very basic compared to what's going on here. 3-axis gyro will capture movement in full 3D space X, Y and Z and iron out movements in all those directions, which is why the results in Catalyst are so good, especially the bobbing movements in walking. Traditional methods can't do that even with lens and in-body stabilization turned on. Even better would be taking 6-Dof technology and Asynchronous Spacewarp from VR and putting it in cameras to completely smooth out and fix any jittery movements. There isn't any reason camera shake should exist in a modern day camera, footage should look like the camera is smoothly floating in the air.
I was on the original Kickstarter funding for this but the delivery took so long I gave up on it. When it finally arrived I was using a Panasonic GH5 which is superb and in-body stabilisation will only get better during the next few years
I use Sony Catalyst Browse for professional work and keep the SS cranked to 1/200 minimum and add pixel motion blur in AE in post if it looks wonky. For a narrative film that's probably not going to cut it but for a wedding film or restaurant promo no one has ever taken notice.
I can see this working really well with a glide-cam. I can see the software working well with a finished edit (do a finial edit, export the edit to the stabilization software for stabilizing, on set use a clapper board to know your focal length)
After hearing more detail the Sony version of this doesn’t seem so inconvenient! Tyler I know you’re a Canon guy but try a Sony camera with gyro data and catalyst browse. I’m not saying it will convince you to switch but it will make you realize what an unnecessary PITA this third party box it’s. No syncing, matching, separate black box, or jerking motion, no need to hog the mic-in port and a cage spot, nor need to insert lens metadata manually.
This. 100%! I used to whine about Catalyst Browse but now it seems like I've been spoiled by its "ease of use". This SteadXP garbage is just a hassle and would waste more hours than any professional should be willing to waste on a project. The title of this video should be "What you need to know so you don't buy the SteadXP" lmao.
Ok... so you ARE aware that this stabilization feature exists in a fully functioning, non pain-in-the-ass, integrated-into-camera form so why even bother with this joke called SteadXP?
@@stalman Im a Nikon shooter but tried catalyst browse in a ZV1 - its very good - I was amazed how smooth my footage was - personally I can't be bothered with gimbals so its definitely something that is swinging me to getting a Sony camera. I wouldn't be surprised if a gyro data feature ends up in Final Cut Pro.
Ive used catalyst browse on a ZV1 - I found it produced great results, I honestly didn't find it a hassle to use. My style of filming probably only uses the odd pre planned motion shots so I really don't have a issue with cranking the shutter. Its a much more desirable work flow than carting a gimbal around with me.
I'm wondering if there's an app can do the same thing. All google searches (so far) yield stabilization for iPhone footage, but not for a camera with the phone mounted on top. I'm thinking this may become standard at some point, like it is with the Sony. Nevertheless, each type of stabilization yields a different effect: IBIS, lens, gimbal, post, and Steadicam all yield different styles of footage. As a side note, I'm surprised more L-lenses don't come with IS, given the price tags on them.
That crop though, losing a lot of the frame in order to get stable footage. Why not just use a gymbal? aren't there any gymbals that are designed around holding the camera a certain way (like from the top as you were doing for the skiing and such)? If so, then I don't see the point of using this attachment that brings such a hassle of calibrating and shaking it before each recording under specific conditions etc when you could just use a gymbal and keep the whole frame the sensor's giving you.
Sony has this very same concept built-in in all it's recent high-end cameras. You shoot than use Sony's software to stabilize using the gyroscope data.
I’d buy a used gimbal over this, the fact you basically can’t use different lenses, or a mic, and you have to do this weird jerking motion every clip, just makes it sound too annoying to actually use.
This is a tech in infancy. Catalyst sucks for most shots so even Sony haven’t got it right. Plus catalyst doesn’t output the files I want. Maybe one day gyro will work well. Right now steady hands and a gimbal will rule.
That's what I was thinking from past two years, why camera don't have inbuilt gyroscope and accelerometer sensor, they can be used to stabilize footage much more and accurate. Also 3d tracking will be more easy using that data
Totally agree, that you should not specifically buy a camera brand for this type of stabilization. Same thing goes for color science, since its one of the easiest things to adjust in post. Dynamic range of the sensor should be very high on the list - if you're not yet locked in by lenses you own and such.
Great to see applications like this on the market. Things like this really is worth to be adopted from the FPV industry. Should be implemented across cameras internally.
I agree, stick with gymbal ....Way too much faf! Especially if you're constantly lens changing. Premier has warp stabilizer anyway, but like this device, it's still going to crop the image in order to stabilize.
I wouldn't call a piece of software that stabilizes the video using gyro data a "gimbal killer". You need to crop to stabilize and you need to proces every single video just to stabilize it. So that's going to eat into your resolution and processing time quite a bit. Now it does seem to do vertical stabilization... so that's neat. That could make it beneficial to add to a gimbal :P
It would be much better than the warp stabilizer from Premier Pro, or any other software automated stabilizer. But you will definitely lose your ability to record audio internally direct to your video file. Also it’s quite complicated and needs a lot of time to sync your data and export it via the software. So you’ll definitely safe time and getting better video quality (because you don’t have to crop in) while using a gimbal and it’s also much cheaper.
I am looking for simplicity, Love the Canon color but also love that Panasonic simplicity even more. The Gh5 does all of this (and in 10 bit 422) internally without effort, without extra cost and without time wasting, Thanks for showering us the workaround Tyler, but my Canon Lens on Gh5 Mk2 gives me the same result at half the cost.
I feel like if Canon or other camera brands, besides SONY because they have this technology already, take in this technology and just build their own device that would be probably be a lot easier and practical to use. Anyone else have the same thought?
I’m a loyal Canon user but the lack of in-camera stabilization is frustrating. And the lenses that do have image stabilization are priced at such a premium. I remember when Canon was on the cutting edge for video being shot on a DSLR, even being used on television shows. They’ve been playing catch up to Sony for so long. I really hope they have some surprises in the future.
I wonder if you could choose the amount of stabilization, so it doesn't look too clinically smooth. Like, if you could keep a bit of that handheld motion, just have it smoothed out...?
Does it work if you use IBIS or lens stabilizer or any other in-camera stabilization? I assume because the Sensor only knows the movement of the camera but has no idea what the IBIS is doing it would be out of sync?
can you compare Reelsteady with SeadXp? I know there are two versions of Reelsteady, the one for $99 and the other one which is around at $400. But since it does such a good job with gopro footage, it must be as good with other cams I guess.
How does this compare with Sony catalyst which I think is basically the same thing but using the gyro sensors built into the camera. Edit: nevermind. I just got to that point in the video 🙈 I hope you could get your hands on a Sony and test it side by side.
If you now what you're doing stabilization software works just as well - which means not that well. For example jerky motion will create motion blur unless you are using a weirdly short exposure time. Really not a great solution.
Olympus EM-1 series has semsor shift + optical + digital stablize(with slight crop) that is easy to use... mark iii with ninja V should give u great footage without the set up work
This is what Insta360 actually does with their weird video container: it just writes metadata from sensors and stabilizes picture in it’s own software afterwards. And this frustrates a lot of users who want very powerful cam that can compute picture instantly but… But this technique is very suitable for DSLRs because of weight since gimbal is very heavy. And you already ready to spend more time on that video then average action cam user
It looks complicated and time consuming. However, the results look very, very good. Hmmm ? This is a lot of cash to put out for this small, plastic, boxed, hardware accelerometer. Also, which version of the GoPro batteries are we talking about that it needs to function ? I think there are 3 versions of the GoPro batteries to date ?
Maybe in next few years yes. But for right now if its thats much expensive and the struggle need to do before and after is not worth of it there is gimbal anyway!
This cannot solve the motion blur caused by handheld shakiness (I'd assume), also it's cropping in the footage. Very niche tech, but I guess it's at a very weird spot where most professionals wouldn't use it?
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This deffinitly looks like an early but clever version of a stabalizing system that could get much more powerful in the next few years
Yes. They, perhaps, create a signal apart from sound embedded in the AV codec of some cameras.
It does, but the company has been promoting this product since at least 2015, always with the same crappy plastic box.
In Premiere switch to position scale rotation rather than subspace warp, that's how you deal with the warpiness
Fpv film industry is using it on drones attached to a red Komodo, it improves it a lot.
That's the only reason I would want one I believe. Any cinelifter setup.
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I use this with a red Komodo on a big FPV drone and it works great for that. I don't think I would want to use it very often handheld though. The need to calibrate the lens combo and the sync moves really makes it a lot more work... great video though
I’m literally watching this with my Red Komodo in mind. Glad to hear it works well together!
@@JonRatzlaff how do you watch youtube video with red komodo?
What frame rate are you able to use with the steadXP? He mentions you need minimum 1/500 do you also find this to be the case?
SteadXP has been around for many years. I don't know why they never tried to advertise it until this year when Sony already had it built-in in their cameras...
Because it's crap
Why am I unable to adjust the quality of the video??? I'm stuck at 360p
Same. I hope he re uploads the video
This is crazy! Can‘t wait till camera companys implement stuff like this into our cameras and AI to improve quality of the hardware 👌🏾
Was just about to say that. lol, for real though, still worth having for older cameras!
Division of Labor Sony A7S3 already has it
The new Sony cameras have it. A7C and A7Siii
@@WyvernApalis Darn, hopefully a MFT camera comes out with it
Well some of the new ibis systems are better than this, because no matter what he said in the video that its not DIS. It is DIS because it crops in the video. Such units like OIS and IBIS are all analog based which helps to maintain your full sensor size. But if they incorporate both it will just help more. Cause as his video showed in the software it cropped in very heavily, because of it being a DSLR making it where it can’t compensate for the heavy movement like IBIS would have. So I really do think they need to incorporate it, but both together is the best of both worlds.
Thanks for your video Tyler, I wanted to flag that as of now SteadXP doesn't deliver orders and acts like a dead business, but keeps collecting money from online orders. I strongly discourage to buy from them. Six months without replies to emails nor refunds.
1. Does it crop in significantly like Sony Catalyst?
2. If you are using the audio port does than mean you cant record sound?
1. Yes
2. Yes
It has to. Thats the only way this tech can work no matter who's technology is doing it. It's basically post stabilization (track motion in AE) but you're recording the camera movement rather than having your computer try to figure it out after the fact. So theoretically it would be faster than post stabilization and it is with Catalyst browse. I have never used this device so I don't know how fast it is.
I don't mind cropping.
Ok it's not a gimbal killer, I don't need to sell my Crane 3s yet.
Dude you could sell and get 10 of these.
And there for because math is reality.....
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I agree! Losing information for a steady shot is like putting warp stabilizer on my camera? This is definitely not a gimbal killer!
@@fepethepenguin8287 at least a gimbal doesn’t crop your footage… this is just a glorified warp stabilizer
@@capybara5494 Crop..... or Enhanced Zoom
Man i was so pumped with your last video which came out quite some time ago but this one just killed it. I'll just get a gimbal I guess
Really nice to know such a genius product on market, although that imperfection stops me from purchasing it right now. Will keep an eye on it and hope it'll fix those bugs and become more user-friendly.
I like how he gives us the pros and cons…most people don’t do that and you don’t know who or what to trust
This makes sony catalyst browse so much better and easy to use. Too much work to get the stabilization on this one.
Was thinking the same once he mentioned setup.
What camera do you use?
yep!
@@antony_reynolds A7s3
I like where technology of the stabilizer in cameras is going.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with it Tyler! Does it work well with longer focal lengths like 200-400mm? I'd love to see if those focal lengths on a gimbal combined with SteadXP create a near-Cineflex vibe.
Yeah thats actually a pretty incredible feature, you can have any focal length. I should try it
Thanks for the follow-up, Tyler!
I would gladly fund a Kickstarter for a v2 of the device + UI design. It’s very nearly a perfect solution, and so worthwhile to have a 3rd party device like SteadXP to be able to use on any camera, instead of being stuck with one system like sony.
Look, I have a question and maybe thats a great use for something like this, is there any way this can work as a virtual camera tracker in blender or c4D for compositing, I'm not that interested in the stabilization side, but if this can generate a perfect tracked virtual camera that would be awesome!
😲 That would be amazing.
I have heard vfx people talking about this, i hope someone pulls it off. There are free open source projects like gyroflow that might make this happen. I have seen making their own "blackbox" and the results are better than steadxp
All magic is complicated magic 🙃
I contemplated digging into this after your first video, and after this one, the workflow just doesn't seem like it would be worth it, for any sort of project. Thanks for the followup!
Love your content and channel
Have to respectfully disagree with one point. If you’re shooting with a degree of care FCPX stabilization is incredible ( as is PP and other plug in ) digital / post stabilization work flows. The amount of footage I’ve saved / used by running post stabilization on and had incredible results is countless. You can just slap it on and export, like you said - dial it down. If you’re getting shots especially for a film or paid work and post stabilization doesn’t give you butter smooth footage IMHO you need to go back to basics and get your filming / camera operation back in check ;) 🙏
Best thing on the FX6 is having basically this built in. its super impressive
To touch on Catalyst Browse and Sony's gyro system. Not unlike the Multi-Interface Shoe, this feature is something that all modern cameras should have. This is why companies like Tascam are currently working on a 3rd party solution for the MIS for Fuji and Canon. In regards to Catalyst Browse, it's a robust and easy-to-use system. Not just for Stabilization but for technical information about your videos, for browsing your videos, even color correcting. And yes very very good stabilization. You need to use a high shutterspeed, because of physics which is unfortunate.
It seems that in order to gain some features modern Sony's are putting out it's opened a gap in the market for 3rd parties to fill the functions for other camera makers.
In other words, if you shoot or will shoot Sony and wanted XLR audio paired with your video you'd get the MIS already, if you wanted very good stabilization you'd already get the Gryo and Catalyst Browse.
So this device doesn't deal with motion blur (which is all over the place) and usually gives away electronically stabilized footage? Sounds like a gimbal is still more practical.
Exactly, this is just software stabilization that every phone / gopro uses. It definitely has nothing to do with motion blurs and perspective distortions.
For those who are familiar with the insta360 range of cameras (I have the One R 1 Inch Edition), the FlowState stabilisation is akin to magic. If using nothing more than a selfie stick, not only does it look like you were filming on a dolly, it even removes horizon tilt. Granted, this is calibrated to the built-in lens modules, but there's nothing required than to turn on the camera and start filming. Even shooting at 24fps, the results are unbelievable. The software is also easy to use, though slow. So if this could be included in every camera, gimbals could well become a thing of the past. And also thanks for an honest review/feedback on this product.
This technology is super cool, but very cumbersome right now. I think that in a couple years we'll see cameras come with this pre-installed, which will be much easier from an operators standpoint. The thought of OIS, IBIS, and this working together in harmony in all the major camera brands will be truly revolutionary. Especially if you have all this working with traditional or electronic gimbals
Some of the new Sony cameras are already including it. Gyros in the camera record the movements as metadata that gets stabilized in their desktop "Catalyst" software.
This is old technology. The only difference is that it's not baked into the camera and better quality. I remember seeing camcorders decades ago that did this. They'd crop the sensor data to keep the center centered making it appear like the footage was being stabilized. Which I guess it kind of was.
@@pixxelpusher Sony has had the technology to do this in commercially available camcorders for decades. This is just an improvement on preexisting tech.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade I'm unaware of any consumer camera that's had 3-axis gyro in them apart from the newest line of Sony's (apart from 360 cameras that can do something similar as they capture the full 360 space and can essentially re-warp the view back to level for every frame using flowstate stabilisation which is amazing). Are you referring to sensor shifting? because even though similar in theory that's a bit different and very basic compared to what's going on here. 3-axis gyro will capture movement in full 3D space X, Y and Z and iron out movements in all those directions, which is why the results in Catalyst are so good, especially the bobbing movements in walking. Traditional methods can't do that even with lens and in-body stabilization turned on. Even better would be taking 6-Dof technology and Asynchronous Spacewarp from VR and putting it in cameras to completely smooth out and fix any jittery movements. There isn't any reason camera shake should exist in a modern day camera, footage should look like the camera is smoothly floating in the air.
I was on the original Kickstarter funding for this but the delivery took so long I gave up on it. When it finally arrived I was using a Panasonic GH5 which is superb and in-body stabilisation will only get better during the next few years
😎 Can’t wait to see this tech built into a cinema camera!
Won’t the shutter speed issue stop it from being more widely used professionally, especially in films?
I use Sony Catalyst Browse for professional work and keep the SS cranked to 1/200 minimum and add pixel motion blur in AE in post if it looks wonky. For a narrative film that's probably not going to cut it but for a wedding film or restaurant promo no one has ever taken notice.
Yeah there’s tons of professional work that has no problem with certain shots looking different. Depends what you do for work
I had really good results using ReelSmart Motion Blur to smooth out the shutter speed issues
Very interesting. Thank you for a detailed video, good or bad. I agree it's for professionals where it's worth the setup time. Results seem very good.
I can see this working really well with a glide-cam. I can see the software working well with a finished edit (do a finial edit, export the edit to the stabilization software for stabilizing, on set use a clapper board to know your focal length)
After hearing more detail the Sony version of this doesn’t seem so inconvenient! Tyler I know you’re a Canon guy but try a Sony camera with gyro data and catalyst browse. I’m not saying it will convince you to switch but it will make you realize what an unnecessary PITA this third party box it’s.
No syncing, matching, separate black box, or jerking motion, no need to hog the mic-in port and a cage spot, nor need to insert lens metadata manually.
This. 100%!
I used to whine about Catalyst Browse but now it seems like I've been spoiled by its "ease of use". This SteadXP garbage is just a hassle and would waste more hours than any professional should be willing to waste on a project. The title of this video should be "What you need to know so you don't buy the SteadXP" lmao.
its so obvious that he is just ignoring the sony function because he is Cannon camera user lol
Yup, that's literally what I said. I haven't used the new Sonys 😁
Ok... so you ARE aware that this stabilization feature exists in a fully functioning, non pain-in-the-ass, integrated-into-camera form so why even bother with this joke called SteadXP?
@@stalman Im a Nikon shooter but tried catalyst browse in a ZV1 - its very good - I was amazed how smooth my footage was - personally I can't be bothered with gimbals so its definitely something that is swinging me to getting a Sony camera. I wouldn't be surprised if a gyro data feature ends up in Final Cut Pro.
It’s basically Reelsteady for non gopros.
It’s fine as long as you are ok with fast shutter and not much motion blur.
Ive used catalyst browse on a ZV1 - I found it produced great results, I honestly didn't find it a hassle to use. My style of filming probably only uses the odd pre planned motion shots so I really don't have a issue with cranking the shutter. Its a much more desirable work flow than carting a gimbal around with me.
You are not aiming high with your work. Not aiming to be the best. You sound lazy. Change your attitude and your life will change too
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@@robertruffo2134 ZV1 is a consumer camera you bring on vacation and party. Why treat it like an Arri Alexa?
I'm wondering if there's an app can do the same thing. All google searches (so far) yield stabilization for iPhone footage, but not for a camera with the phone mounted on top. I'm thinking this may become standard at some point, like it is with the Sony. Nevertheless, each type of stabilization yields a different effect: IBIS, lens, gimbal, post, and Steadicam all yield different styles of footage. As a side note, I'm surprised more L-lenses don't come with IS, given the price tags on them.
That crop though, losing a lot of the frame in order to get stable footage. Why not just use a gymbal? aren't there any gymbals that are designed around holding the camera a certain way (like from the top as you were doing for the skiing and such)? If so, then I don't see the point of using this attachment that brings such a hassle of calibrating and shaking it before each recording under specific conditions etc when you could just use a gymbal and keep the whole frame the sensor's giving you.
Sony has this very same concept built-in in all it's recent high-end cameras. You shoot than use Sony's software to stabilize using the gyroscope data.
Hello, if anymore more experienced could answer: with a similar priced gimbal, it'd be possible to achieve the same results? Thanks,
I’d buy a used gimbal over this, the fact you basically can’t use different lenses, or a mic, and you have to do this weird jerking motion every clip, just makes it sound too annoying to actually use.
Love that I´m here so early. Love your channel Tyler, fantastic quality videos and a perfect aesthetic. Keep it up!
Would this interfere with a Tentacle Sync timecode input? If not, I may be very interested in checking this out with a 3.5mm y-splitter.
This is a tech in infancy. Catalyst sucks for most shots so even Sony haven’t got it right. Plus catalyst doesn’t output the files I want. Maybe one day gyro will work well. Right now steady hands and a gimbal will rule.
Ahhhh finally a reasonable take on this.
That's what I was thinking from past two years, why camera don't have inbuilt gyroscope and accelerometer sensor, they can be used to stabilize footage much more and accurate. Also 3d tracking will be more easy using that data
Totally agree, that you should not specifically buy a camera brand for this type of stabilization.
Same thing goes for color science, since its one of the easiest things to adjust in post.
Dynamic range of the sensor should be very high on the list - if you're not yet locked in by lenses you own and such.
Thankfully the a7s iii has this tech built in already.
Do you know if the regular a7iii does?
Currently no. There’s supposedly talk of it happening in an update but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
@@bentheremedia3011 Bummer but thanks for the response!
Great to see applications like this on the market. Things like this really is worth to be adopted from the FPV industry. Should be implemented across cameras internally.
Oh boy! Too many things to go wrong at a wedding. Sticking to a gimbal and post steady editing software.
Need the link to this gimbal
I agree, stick with gymbal ....Way too much faf! Especially if you're constantly lens changing. Premier has warp stabilizer anyway, but like this device, it's still going to crop the image in order to stabilize.
The problem with eis is that the motion blur from the shaking sometimes still there.
Thanks 👍 😊 for the honesty
They should license this tech to camera manufacturers. There’s no reason this couldn’t be done on camera. GoPro already does something similar.
It's basically RSGO for DSLRs but more complicated
I got to 2:15 and I’m like “yeah I’m out” but appreciate your videos haha
I wouldn't call a piece of software that stabilizes the video using gyro data a "gimbal killer". You need to crop to stabilize and you need to proces every single video just to stabilize it. So that's going to eat into your resolution and processing time quite a bit. Now it does seem to do vertical stabilization... so that's neat. That could make it beneficial to add to a gimbal :P
Yeah I wouldn’t call it that either, just a potetial alternative
It would be much better than the warp stabilizer from Premier Pro, or any other software automated stabilizer.
But you will definitely lose your ability to record audio internally direct to your video file.
Also it’s quite complicated and needs a lot of time to sync your data and export it via the software.
So you’ll definitely safe time and getting better video quality (because you don’t have to crop in) while using a gimbal and it’s also much cheaper.
I am looking for simplicity, Love the Canon color but also love that Panasonic simplicity even more. The Gh5 does all of this (and in 10 bit 422) internally without effort, without extra cost and without time wasting, Thanks for showering us the workaround Tyler, but my Canon Lens on Gh5 Mk2 gives me the same result at half the cost.
I feel like if Canon or other camera brands, besides SONY because they have this technology already, take in this technology and just build their own device that would be probably be a lot easier and practical to use. Anyone else have the same thought?
I’m a loyal Canon user but the lack of in-camera stabilization is frustrating. And the lenses that do have image stabilization are priced at such a premium. I remember when Canon was on the cutting edge for video being shot on a DSLR, even being used on television shows. They’ve been playing catch up to Sony for so long. I really hope they have some surprises in the future.
I wonder if you could choose the amount of stabilization, so it doesn't look too clinically smooth. Like, if you could keep a bit of that handheld motion, just have it smoothed out...?
Does it work if you use IBIS or lens stabilizer or any other in-camera stabilization?
I assume because the Sensor only knows the movement of the camera but has no idea what the IBIS is doing it would be out of sync?
It is indeed software stabilization because you have to crop in to make it work.
cant it also fix rolling shutter? If so, isn't this a HUGE pro to mention?
So it's basically reelsteadygo or gyroflow but now for more that just your FPV drone
Can use in blackmagic 6k?
can you compare Reelsteady with SeadXp?
I know there are two versions of Reelsteady, the one for $99 and the other one which is around at $400.
But since it does such a good job with gopro footage, it must be as good with other cams I guess.
Anyway it can't remove motion blur of shaking. But if shaking is not so hard, just jitter, post stab easily remove it.. so whats the difference ??
Amazing result!
How does this compare with Sony catalyst which I think is basically the same thing but using the gyro sensors built into the camera.
Edit: nevermind. I just got to that point in the video 🙈
I hope you could get your hands on a Sony and test it side by side.
If you now what you're doing stabilization software works just as well - which means not that well. For example jerky motion will create motion blur unless you are using a weirdly short exposure time. Really not a great solution.
Olympus EM-1 series has semsor shift + optical + digital stablize(with slight crop) that is easy to use... mark iii with ninja V should give u great footage without the set up work
Its just for canon? Or we can use on Sony?
Will this work with sony a6600? Also do you still have sound or i have to use external recorder for my sound?
This is what Insta360 actually does with their weird video container: it just writes metadata from sensors and stabilizes picture in it’s own software afterwards. And this frustrates a lot of users who want very powerful cam that can compute picture instantly but…
But this technique is very suitable for DSLRs because of weight since gimbal is very heavy. And you already ready to spend more time on that video then average action cam user
I’m surprised that no one made this earlier…
Thanks.
can't get anything higher than 360p even though it says 4k - think error on UA-cam Upload
It looks complicated and time consuming. However, the results look very, very good. Hmmm ? This is a lot of cash to put out for this small, plastic, boxed, hardware accelerometer. Also, which version of the GoPro batteries are we talking about that it needs to function ? I think there are 3 versions of the GoPro batteries to date ?
Also it will crop your footage for the stabilization to work. Soo not much upside to it.
Maybe in next few years yes. But for right now if its thats much expensive and the struggle need to do before and after is not worth of it there is gimbal anyway!
Does it work with manual lenses?
How to connect mic at the same moment ?
Panasonic S1 does it inbody almost like that tho :)
*how much is it and does it work with Panasonic Lumix G7 camera please?!*
This idea seems suitable for smartphones cameras as it always have a gyro and accelerometer. They only need a software.
Will this work on my bmp4k
1st minute in: why wouldn’t everyone use this?!
2nd minute: why would anybody use this?
ha ha ....
What if I want to record sound?
does it work within davinci?
Do you have to calibrate it each to time you switch lenses?
Each lens needs to be calibrated one time ever
This cannot solve the motion blur caused by handheld shakiness (I'd assume), also it's cropping in the footage. Very niche tech, but I guess it's at a very weird spot where most professionals wouldn't use it?
What kind of witchcraft is this???, Siri pops out out of nowhere every time I watch this video!!!!
FX3 has this built in and is AMAZING! STABLLIZATION OVER BUILT IN ND.
Why quality is only 480 p😅
Because it just uploaded, in like 20min youll have full quality.
@@SachinPatel-fy8vj Too quick on the trigger!
@@stalman Its currently stuck at 360p. I suggest if you can consider re uploading the video
@@SachinPatel-fy8vj lol it's still 360p
@@joranvancoillie8133 Thats normally the issue, but i guess not in this case. Something mustve bugged on Tylers or UA-cams end :(
So... like Sony's gyro stabilization but worse?
It's sense.
Van it be used in conjunction with a gimbal for smoother footage?
I just picked up that 20mm sigma. Love the image it produces but AF is loud AF 😂
Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is cinematic videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a suggestion.
After 6 hours this video is still 360p.
Does this work with a bmpcc 4k?
I work with a BMPCC4K and a DZO film cine zoom lens, would it work with that combo?
not bad. if they can improve that like gopro 9 do it.
and use it in headset plug instead of microphone. because i need record voice, or i should buy timerclock for sync and pocket recorder.
What about audio?