doc steals the show in this movie.... and to have Micheal Beign play a bad guy for once too... hard to top this one. Bar scene where doc and ringo meet... WOW.
Great comeback indeed. I have this movie and watch it frequently. Makes you wonder though if Doc was really like that in real life. If he was then I would have been his friend instead of his enemy for sure.
Stone David Also if you watch closely, when he slings his guns, he slings one forwards and the other backwards just to show that he still has enough hand eye coordination to gun him down on the spot even if he is drunk.
When you realize: "There's no throne, there is no version of this where you come out on top. Maybe your army comes and maybe it's too much for us but it's all on you. Because if we can't protect the Earth, you can be damned well sure we'll avenge it!" was exactly the same thing Tony was saying to Loki as Wyatt said to Ike.
@David31567 Yeah, Doc instigated it all by winking at Billy, and as soon as Wyatt saw Billy's expression change... "Oh my God." And all hell broke loose! 😂
this whole scene is stupid, Earp carried a long barrel revolver and used it like a night stick. If you were wearing a gun he would grab your right hand and then draw his revolver with his right hand and whack you across the forehead with it.
@@DeBannanaKingOfAll Earp often had to deal with drunk cowboys and that's what he did. He would whack them across the forehead and stun them drag them off to jail. I wish people would do some research. but a lot of the story is missing as there just wasn't time to explain his relations with the cowboys etc.
I was in college when this movie came out. Me and a few guys were supposed to meet up with some girls afterwards for dinner; but the movie was so freaking awesome that we ended up buying tickets for the next show and watched it again instead of meeting up with the ladies. This was pre cellphone days; so when we showed up on Monday for class, the girls were pissed that we ditched them. Our history professor thought we were exaggerating about how good the movie was. The next day he came into class and told everyone that he watched it the night before, and it was the best action movie he had watched in years. The girls still didn’t talk to us for a few more days.
The fact that most people never realized that Ike Clanton was played by Stephen Lang, just shows what a great character actor he is. I know Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer get the attention (rightly so), but I have always believed that Lang played one of the best parts of the show, especially considering his actual screen time in the movie itself.
Him and Billy Bob Thornton. I know both actors but i wouldn't have recognized them without Google. I knew that they are on this movie but the entire time I was like "when the fuck are they going to show up? "
Love that scene you can see all his courage drain from his body and that quiver in his voice. Brilliant supporting performance. This film imo has the most impressive cast with meaningful parts in any film I've seen
How the heck did you notice he spun them in two directions? I went back and looks and by god you're right! You must have learned that on DVD extras or something. No way your eyes are naturally that sharp xD
Watch the way he spins the guns. He spins them in opposite directions. The fact that he could still do that when he's piss drunk makes him even more badass.
Val is brilliant, but you gotta love Kurt's unique lines like "Skin that smoke wagon" and "Turn your head into a canoe". Those expressions really capture the way they spoke back then.
@@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces First of all. Calm down.No one said anything about being a historian. I wasn't even being rude. I was just saying, this movie takes place before 1898. No need to start giving attitude for nothing.
@@nova_raindrop1257 The big “Gunfight at the O K Corral was in 1881. The coin Earp turned and laid on the Faro table during the Ringo/Holliday exchange in the Oriental Saloon was a U.S. Morgan silver dollar. Nice coins. I have a few of them.
plincoln21 from what I'm given to understand the real character of Ike Clanton was as a "a real ornery dislikable fellow with no real courage or conviction" so the actor must have really studied him in depth.
Doc Holiday.. with how careless he is.. is absolutely terrifying. He just does not give a fuck, and keeps performing visibly above others while drunk. I can't tell if he just does better drunk, or if he's handicapping himself.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that Kilmer, while holding his cup, spun both guns at the same time but in opposite directions? Dude did an amazing job from the dialect down to every last detail
Val Kilmer has been under rated as an actor for many years , awesome dude ! But this , i think is one of his greatest roles ! I know it's his sons favorite !
I still think that the real Wyatt Earpe would have pulled the trigger the instant the barrel of his pistol made contact with Ike Clantons head and asked who's next it would have got rid of some of his problems later on
So because the line is SO GOOD, you think that it couldn't have been written? What? IBE, inference to the best explanation, it was written. Fucking, google it, most of the stuff on this movie says the best lines were historical quotes. And the REAL Doc Holliday was a bad ass. Jesus kids are getting fking dumb these days.
You can genuinely see fear in Ike's eyes and hear it in his voice when he gets that revolver pointed at his head, even moreso when Billy says "Let's rush him" and Ike begs him no. Awesome acting!
Lot of good lines: Earp's "head into a canoe", Doc H's " two guns...one for each of yuh". But I kind of like Ike's delivery of "No. He ain't bluffing". The lovely lilt in his quaking voice coupled with Ike's facial expression of panic - it's a winner.
Tombstone is the only movie that when I see it playing on tv, network or cable, I have to stop and watch it. I’ve seen this movie dozens of times and still love it. Every actor nailed the roles they were given.
Damn Val Kilmer should have gotten an Oscar for this performance. I would rival it to the insanity of Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker. Not comparing the roles just the acting abilities they both have.
It's a fair comparison. Both men stole their respective movies! Although I'm with Aquapetloc Yapokankac, Val's performance here is just a little tiny bit more awesome.
@@harmonyjones8035 No, it is really not. Heaths performance was considerably superior and i am not talking about the Oscar which he earned, whereas this movie was not even nominated. Heath was one of the greatest actors of this generation. His talent was undeniable. He showed great charisma and great versatility in his roles. Val is good. That good? Certainly not. Even Marlon Brando dismissed his talent!
@@vardellsfolly5200 Nominations and awards mean nothing at all. Using our own eyes we can see that Ledger's only "famously good" work was in Batman. He did great! People loved his performance for a reason. But imagine that performance in your mind. Imagine his Joker and tell me if you think -- actually -- people are stupid and the performance was really nothing special. He died. That made a lot of people gush. I didn't gush. Dead or no dead, I look at the facts. Now imagine (or watch) Kilmer's performance in this film. His eyes, his voice, his mannerisms. They are AT LEAST as good as Ledger's overrated (but good) permormance as Joker. You'll argue with me now and say "Yeah but what about blah" but before you do, ask yourself if you'd be even talking about Ledger if he wasn't dead. He was talented (all actors are). But he was also dead. That made a lot of people delude themselves into thinking he was more than he was. Human nature! Nothing wrong in it! But it's unbalanced people like you and your opinon on great acting.
preston palomo Or maybe he was so drunk he spun it two different directions? Or maybe he's so skilled he can spin it different directions while drunk? Who knows with Doc! :)
I’ve seen this scene at least 47,000 times, and one of the most underrated things is the total lack of hesitation by Ike in complying with Wyatt. What a great cowardly heel. “Now tell ‘em to get back.” Exactly 0.0025 seconds later “Go on now get back.”
MY NAME IS DOC "I'm your huckleberry." - This quote represents my unwavering confidence and willingness to take on any challenge or confrontation. I see myself as the perfect match for anyone who dares to oppose me. "Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave." - With this statement, I am taunting Johnny Ringo, implying that he appears fearful and defeated. I revel in the psychological warfare of the moment, using my words to undermine and intimidate my opponent. "I have not yet begun to defile myself." - This quote showcases my rebellious and unapologetic nature. I refuse to conform to societal norms or expectations. I believe that true freedom comes from embracing one's own desires and indulging in life's pleasures. "You're a daisy if you do." - This remark is delivered with a mix of sarcasm and superiority. It suggests that the other person's actions or choices will ultimately lead to their downfall or demise. I find amusement in pointing out their potential mistakes or missteps. "I'm in my prime." - With this statement, I assert my self-assuredness and belief in my own abilities. I see myself as being at the height of my power and influence, ready to face any challenge or obstacle that comes my way. "I'll be damned." - This phrase reflects a sense of resignation or acceptance in the face of difficult circumstances. It conveys a recognition that sometimes life deals us unfavorable cards, but I am determined to face adversity head-on. "It seems poker's not your game, Ike. I know, let's have a spelling contest." - This quote reveals my sharp wit and enjoyment of banter. I use it to mock Ike, suggesting that his incompetence in poker renders him unfit for any intellectual challenge, offering a spelling contest as a sarcastic alternative. "It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds." - This statement reflects my self-awareness of my own contradictions and inconsistencies. It acknowledges that I may preach one thing but act in a way that contradicts those principles, indicating a certain level of moral ambiguity. "You know, Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it." - This quote reveals a vulnerable side to my character. Despite my rough exterior, I value friendship and loyalty. It expresses the significance of companionship and the emotional impact it has on me. "There's no normal life, Wyatt, it's just life. Get on with it." - This quote embodies my philosophy of embracing life as it comes, without seeking or expecting a conventional sense of normalcy. It encourages living in the present moment and embracing the unpredictability of existence.
This movie is one of best Westerns ever released, the cast had great chemistry and made each scene memorable. Val Kilmer should've taken home an Oscar for his Doc Holliday portrayal, robbed!
This is still one of my all-time favorite movie lines to this day. Kurt Russel's intense and genuine delivery of the perfectly-worded threat backed up by Ike's (Stephen Lang) true yellow-bellied provocateur colors being exposed at gunpoint is cinematic perfection that puts a smile on my face every time.
Coming here and seeing all the good reviews of this movie has made my day, was my late fathers favourite and mine too, glad Doc/Val get the recognition he deserves 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
My dad grew up in the streets of New York in the late 60's-late 70's... I've seen a few people doubt his word/resolve, but he never bluffed in serious situations. It's important to know if one of these people are bluffing when a friend thinks it's smart to take them on. Ike saved them all.
@@leftcoaster67 Wyatt was looking straight into Ike's eyes whe he said "You die first." As you said, Ike saw the determination. Yeah, and the gun as well.
Val Kilmer may not be the best actor out there but he was absolutely perfect and brilliant as Doc Holliday. This scene is a classic. "I got two guns, one for each of ya".
Haven't read a comment this unworthy in a long time. Kilmer was one of the best actors in his prime and pretty much made it impossible for anyone else to play Holiday.
Kilmer is incredible. He was even awesome in MacGruber. He typed and lip synced his few lines in Top Gun Maverick and made a highlight of an already great movie.
"I almost thought you wouldnt show" "Im your huckleberry" "My fights not with you Holliday." "I beg to differ sir, we started a game we never quite got to finish. play for blood, remember?" "I was only foolin" "I wasn't"
@@Shiirow in an interview with Michael biehn (Ringo) he said that when Ringo agreed to duel Doc that he perceived it as genuine fun. Two truly badass characters, did not give a fuck about death.
It's called the Oscars regressing into the same category as Nobel and Pulitzer. Once honored awards, now considered bad jokes among the civilizations of man. (I do 100% agree with you that Kilmer deserves an Oscar, though)
@@HK--nf1sc I think it was more than the competition. Michael Biehn said Val has an undeserved reputation as being hard to work with, but he just doesn't suffer fools gladly. Michael doesn't either.
Good catch, I felt it seemed off, but now I know it was stylistically off by Kilmer. Actually more difficult then two simultaneous symmetrical spins. Playing the mindless drunk.
That is the type of line writers will call each other in 3 in the morning to half brag to their writing friends about their brilliant quip and half double check if it was lifted, since only good ideas get plagiarized.
Funny stuff, I like also in the casino, where Ike tells Wyatt, law don't go around here, then a second, Wyatt as only he could cuts him off in mid sentence with, I heard you the first time, Well check it out yourself it is funny. The guy playing Ike here ho is he?
I think he's my favorite in this film. The whole cast is wonderful but I really liked him. You probably know this but you can also see him in Avatar, Gangster Squad and Don't Breathe. I haven't seen DB yet.
"You die first. Get it? Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe. Do you understand me?" Probably one of the best lines in the whole damn movie, aside from all of Doc's catchphrases lol!
This is one of my all-time favorite westerns. I don't usually watch many movies over and over again....... except this one. What a great cast put together. Kurt Russell held it together and Val Kilmer's best acting job in my mind. And did I say great cast......worth saying it again.
Yeah Steven Lang is a great actor. He's also good in the Movie: Avatar as Col. Quarich,Gods and Generals as. General Stonewall Jackson, Gettysburg as General Pickett which he filmed at the same time as Tombstone was getting film. And a few other actors from Tombstone were also in Gettysburg including Sam Elliott who played General Buford.
Stephan lang did a lot of period movies, his depiction of General George Pickett in Gettysburg was incredible, his look of shock and grief when his troops were mowed down attacking the union center was spot on.
@@jtm726 I knew he was going to be the main antagonist in Avatar but that speech he made to the newbies was inspiring. It really set the stage for how invested he was in fighting and how tough an opponent he was going to be.
"I have two guns; one for each of ya." Badass. Love, love, love Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer). One of the best performances to have been cheated out of an Oscar.
If you look carefully when Doc says "I have two guns, one for each of ya" he spins both guns, one backwards one forwards with the cup still on his finger. When the guns stop one is aimed at the mans head and one at his heart. Doc Holiday is truly a one of a kind bad ass!
The new one honestly just doesn't have that soulful feel that the original one with Yul Brenner and Steve McQueen did. That movie, Rio Bravo, Tombstone, and of course The Good The Bad And The Ugly hands down are the best westerns ever made. EVER O.O
@@MrNowayjose1 the new true grit or the John Wayne version? I prefer the John Wayne version purely for.the scene at the horse trader n the somewhat optimistic but open ending. The new one is fine but the ending is a bit of a downer.
Damn it all to hell, the Val Kilmer Tombstone clips are enough reason for a time machine to be invented so it can be used to right the injustice of him being robbed of an Oscar for supporting actor.
I more appreciated how Wyatt was standing alone in that street to dispense justice while nobody else stepped up, not even the sheriff who was merely rubbernecking. And then comes in Wyatt's best friend to back him up. It's not about stealing the show, it's about being there for your friend when he is being a suicidal maniac doing the right thing. That's what made Doc awesome.
It's a matter of persective I figure. Earp's been in enough life-or-death situations at this point to know that if a fight starts, with him in the middle of several opponents armed with guns, there's no way he'll survive. But he also know 1) most people are not interested in dying, and 2) the one that moves first is usually the leader. So when Ike stepped forward, Earp's world narrowed down to just him and Ike, and the fact that if he saw or heard *anything* moving suddenly near him, he would pull the trigger, killing Ike, and then try to get the next closest guy in his line of sight. He knew he probably wouldn't get the rest of them, but Ike's death was guaranteed. Ike could see this in his eyes, and not wanting to die, he told the others to back off. Wyatt's willingness to die trumped Ike's desire to live in this situation. Simple as that. Look up "Hagakure" if you want to learn more about this mindset.
@@eurosalamander Wyatt actually did face down a mob in Tombstone. The mob had come to lynch a gambler named Johnnie Behind the Deuce. Earp confronted them alone & told them that he would kill the 1st man that stepped forward and as many more that he could before they got to him. The mob decided that backing off was the wiser decision. All you have to do, if you wonder if Earp would have done as he told the mob; is to look at his photo and at his eyes. They are ice cold! He did not bluff! In fact, to illustrate the cold purpose of the man you only need to know what Virgil Earp's wife once said about him. "I never saw Wyatt ever laugh".
Jake Davis the late writer Kevin Jarre was writer for movie. Kilmer and Russell did help with lines and direct the movie original director Jarre was fired from directing and Director George Cosmatos was there more to keep things going smoothly while Russell helmed The Director chair as told by Russell himself. Actually Tombstone essentially had 3 Directors when Jarre was fired he took over writing.
I don't think there is a more "gangster" movie than this in existence. Every scene, every line is to it's core the hardest shit, and the older I get the better it gets.👏👏
He was taught the art of quick draw, gun slinging and twirling by a professional competitive quick draw artist that was there on the movie set while this shot was being filmed, in fact Val constantly walked around the set twirling and spinning his guns.
hughesfan100 Hey man, chill out. I heard ya, loud and clear, and agree. He was excellent as Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals (have it on DVD) and again in Avatar. He said he started lifting weights for a role on Broadway, and just took to it. Yeah, I'd say he did, haha.
hughesfan100 who r u mad at ? Im to old to be a yuppie. That was the 80s sorry if it was me ur mad at, no intention of making anyone angry. I can do that to my roommate LOL
Radrook it was because the preacher in the beginning said a pale white horse will come and riding him is death and when he sees him in the woods doc is super sick and pale just my take on it
@Urrcreavesh I always figured Doc did the cups because he didn't want to show Ringo has fast he was. Plus the cup scene was a great show of Doc's personality.
One of my favorite things about this movie has got to be all of the fantastic quotes. They kind of remind me of some of Clint Eastwood's lines in his classic movies. This movie is full of them and they just stick with you.
"Nope, he aint bluffing." Ike did it with a perfect squeak behind the words. Great acting.
"You're not as stupid as you look Ike."
Stephen Lang!
@@ralphcarmack4056 Cripes! Thx for pointing that out. I had no idea until you mentioned it.
*"He's bluffin', let's rush em!"*
Spoken exactly like someone who isn't about to have his brain take a step outside.
Ike was the biggest coward in the whole movie. All talk, no balls.
"I have two guns, one for each of you..." What a comeback!
doc steals the show in this movie.... and to have Micheal Beign play a bad guy for once too... hard to top this one.
Bar scene where doc and ringo meet... WOW.
that was really good.
Great comeback indeed. I have this movie and watch it frequently. Makes you wonder though if Doc was really like that in real life. If he was then I would have been his friend instead of his enemy for sure.
of ya*
Stone David Also if you watch closely, when he slings his guns, he slings one forwards and the other backwards just to show that he still has enough hand eye coordination to gun him down on the spot even if he is drunk.
"Your friends might get me in a rush but not before I make your head into a canoe"
Gold.
When you realize: "There's no throne, there is no version of this where you come out on top. Maybe your army comes and maybe it's too much for us but it's all on you. Because if we can't protect the Earth, you can be damned well sure we'll avenge it!" was exactly the same thing Tony was saying to Loki as Wyatt said to Ike.
I'm not afraid to die, as long as I take you with me! How do you beat a man who's not afraid to die!
@@markforster6457 Is that question? Or a statement?
@@robertwilliamson6121 That was the attitude Wyatt took in this situation.
@@markforster6457 Wyatt Earp was never wounded/shot. Ike Clanton was shot to death by several deputy sheriffs later during a robbery attempt.
"He's bluffin, let's rush 'em!". Nothing like one of your best friends using your own life as a poker chip.
Brother to be exact. Ike and Billy was Brothers. Bill was killed in O.K Coral
@David31567 Yeah, Doc instigated it all by winking at Billy, and as soon as Wyatt saw Billy's expression change... "Oh my God." And all hell broke loose! 😂
When Ike says “ no he ain’t bluffing” to me it makes the whole scene it’s the perfect line
You're not as stupid as you look Ike.
this whole scene is stupid, Earp carried a long barrel revolver and used it like a night stick. If you were wearing a gun he would grab your right hand and then draw his revolver with his right hand and whack you across the forehead with it.
@@cat-lw6kq ok boomer
@@DeBannanaKingOfAll Earp often had to deal with drunk cowboys and that's what he did. He would whack them across the forehead and stun them drag them off to jail.
I wish people would do some research.
but a lot of the story is missing as there just wasn't time to explain his relations with the cowboys etc.
@@cat-lw6kq You are overthinking this great scene, relax.
Tombstone is the film that holds the record for most badassery contained in one movie.
Thanks for inventing a new word: "Badassery".
No wonder, when you look at the cast list ... they don't make movies like this anymore!
Loaded with so many badasses, it could not help but take the prize.
Maybe. I saw a porno done by the cast of The View. There was an immense amount of bad ass in that movie.
@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 lol nice
I was in college when this movie came out. Me and a few guys were supposed to meet up with some girls afterwards for dinner; but the movie was so freaking awesome that we ended up buying tickets for the next show and watched it again instead of meeting up with the ladies. This was pre cellphone days; so when we showed up on Monday for class, the girls were pissed that we ditched them. Our history professor thought we were exaggerating about how good the movie was. The next day he came into class and told everyone that he watched it the night before, and it was the best action movie he had watched in years. The girls still didn’t talk to us for a few more days.
amazing story
i love this so much
I adore this story man! Hell, I would have done the same if I were in your shoes!
Decision well made sir 🤟
ahhh pre cell phones☺
I wonder if the girls were playing Tarot meanwhile.
The fact that most people never realized that Ike Clanton was played by Stephen Lang, just shows what a great character actor he is. I know Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer get the attention (rightly so), but I have always believed that Lang played one of the best parts of the show, especially considering his actual screen time in the movie itself.
I agree.
That's the same guy? Learned something today. The more you know ⭐🌈
Him and Billy Bob Thornton. I know both actors but i wouldn't have recognized them without Google. I knew that they are on this movie but the entire time I was like "when the fuck are they going to show up? "
Love that scene you can see all his courage drain from his body and that quiver in his voice. Brilliant supporting performance. This film imo has the most impressive cast with meaningful parts in any film I've seen
Indeed. One of the great character actors.
Drunk, flipping guns opposite directions...while still holding his cup.
Don't mess with Doc Holliday.
The man is genuinely terrifying. Legend has it -- his opponents were always to afraid to aim, and he was never afraid to die.
And didn't spill a drop either. :D
Holy shit. I just noticed after reading this comment he’s still holding his cup. Fucking legend
I missed that until i went back. 👍👍👎
How the heck did you notice he spun them in two directions? I went back and looks and by god you're right! You must have learned that on DVD extras or something. No way your eyes are naturally that sharp xD
Watch the way he spins the guns. He spins them in opposite directions. The fact that he could still do that when he's piss drunk makes him even more badass.
and he never drops his cup! lol he was awesome in this movie
He wasn't really drunk.
Watch each hand separately...The left hand spins it clockwise, the right spins it counter-clockwise...seems pretty difficult to me! lol
I've NEVER noticed that before. Holy shit that's class!
Kilmer is extremely dexterous.
Val is brilliant, but you gotta love Kurt's unique lines like "Skin that smoke wagon" and "Turn your head into a canoe". Those expressions really capture the way they spoke back then.
Back then in 1993. Or 1898?
@@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces Before 1898
@@Lookin4LoveInAllTheWrongPlaces First of all. Calm down.No one said anything about being a historian. I wasn't even being rude. I was just saying, this movie takes place before 1898. No need to start giving attitude for nothing.
@@nova_raindrop1257 The big “Gunfight at the O K Corral was in 1881. The coin Earp turned and laid on the Faro table during the Ringo/Holliday exchange in the Oriental Saloon was a U.S. Morgan silver dollar. Nice coins. I have a few of them.
Unlike HBO which is just fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Stephen Lang is a great actor. Never a bad role.
Stephen Lang played Ike so beautifully. He really made you hate him. Like really really really hate. Mark of a great actor.
plincoln21 from what I'm given to understand the real character of Ike Clanton was as a "a real ornery dislikable fellow with no real courage or conviction" so the actor must have really studied him in depth.
Steven Baker You can see it in just about every scene he is in.
I’d say the same for Joaquin Phoenix, playing Commodus,
Sort of like Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers.
Don't know about hate, but certainly want to slap the piss out of him with a spade shovel.
Doc Holiday made this movie. He stole every single scene he was in.
+TheDrexxus
if it wasn't for Val this movie would have been as memorable as the one kevin costner was in, which I never even seen
I disagree. That stupid accent Val Kilmer put on Doc Holiday takes me right out of the movie. It's down right cheesy.
Doc Holiday.. with how careless he is.. is absolutely terrifying. He just does not give a fuck, and keeps performing visibly above others while drunk. I can't tell if he just does better drunk, or if he's handicapping himself.
I do agree val Kilmer is amazing. That being said wyatt eryp is a badass in this movie
Everyone has their likings. I personally think his accent isn't cheesy at all, but hey, whatevz
"And you...music lover...You're next"
God i love how Val delivers that line
That was hilarious
Oh SuSAnNaaaa...Camptown RaCES?!
Even better, he spins the pistols in opposite directions.
Can we take a moment to appreciate that Kilmer, while holding his cup, spun both guns at the same time but in opposite directions?
Dude did an amazing job from the dialect down to every last detail
I didnt even notice that!! What amazing detail of badassery!!
Nice catch.
Val Kilmer has been under rated as an actor for many years , awesome dude ! But this , i think is one of his greatest roles ! I know it's his sons favorite !
Yeah, I did catch the spin. I agree, he nailed that character. In fact all of the cast turned in remarkable performances.
Going to practice. Too bad I don't have 2 of the same
Doesn't matter how many shitty movies Val Kilmer does... I still gotta respect him for Doc Holliday. lol
+OneManShow He should have been nominated for this one. And he did pretty well in The Doors.
After Battlefield Earth, "Well... he did play Doc Holiday".
Ian-Devon Lewis ff
He was brilliant in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
He was a good actor at one time, he pretty much quit Hollywood altogether.
I love the look on Ike's face once he realizes he dies first. Priceless!!!
So many great performances, of course great direction.
mannybrucesalvador his attitude changed real fast 😂
I still think that the real Wyatt Earpe would have pulled the trigger the instant the barrel of his pistol made contact with Ike Clantons head and asked who's next it would have got rid of some of his problems later on
He expected panic and fear not a determination to die and take him along.. LOL!
Notice that he considers death a horrifying experience but enjoys killing all those Mexicans at the beginning of the film. Typical human.
“I have two guns. One for each of ya.” I feel like he may have improv’d a lot of his lines in this
If he didn't, you wouldn't have gotten a badass Doc Holliday
So because the line is SO GOOD, you think that it couldn't have been written? What? IBE, inference to the best explanation, it was written. Fucking, google it, most of the stuff on this movie says the best lines were historical quotes. And the REAL Doc Holliday was a bad ass. Jesus kids are getting fking dumb these days.
@@hollisticbomber2660 calm your tits nancy
@@hollisticbomber2660 you're Jesus' kid too ya know
Wit the lil backspin wit the cup in his hand thats was badass
You can genuinely see fear in Ike's eyes and hear it in his voice when he gets that revolver pointed at his head, even moreso when Billy says "Let's rush him" and Ike begs him no. Awesome acting!
Moreso? What the fuck has happened to the English language.
@@TheMalf1978 Guy probably just forgot to space it. It happens.
what the fuck happened to you? you used to be somebody, a real contender.
@@TheMalf1978 he’s technically not wrong ya dumbass
Ike and the bartender is alos an amazing scene
Lot of good lines: Earp's "head into a canoe", Doc H's " two guns...one for each of yuh". But I kind of like Ike's delivery of "No. He ain't bluffing". The lovely lilt in his quaking voice coupled with Ike's facial expression of panic - it's a winner.
True. He didn't have to look to know that Billy was coming for Wyatt. He knew his brother.
Perfect counter moment to Ike's "Law don't go 'round here, law dog" moment from earlier.
Should of gotten an Oscar for the "no, he ain't bluffin'" line.
@@cjsrescues I agree. VK should've gotten an Oscar for "Why Johnny Ringo. You look like somebody just walked over your grave."
Best 'Ike Clanton' evah! Even love the name; 'Ike Clanton' - u don't get a better western name than that...
Tombstone is the only movie that when I see it playing on tv, network or cable, I have to stop and watch it. I’ve seen this movie dozens of times and still love it. Every actor nailed the roles they were given.
My opinion, every main character in this movie deserves an oscar. Each played their part as if living the movie. Absolute brilliant acting.
Stephen Lang was awesome as Ike. Everyone in the movie was a perfect pick for their role. Great actors - great movie!
Damn Val Kilmer should have gotten an Oscar for this performance. I would rival it to the insanity of Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker. Not comparing the roles just the acting abilities they both have.
agreed
You just compared Heath's performance with Val's!?
It's a fair comparison. Both men stole their respective movies! Although I'm with Aquapetloc Yapokankac, Val's performance here is just a little tiny bit more awesome.
@@harmonyjones8035 No, it is really not. Heaths performance was considerably superior and i am not talking about the Oscar which he earned, whereas this movie was not even nominated. Heath was one of the greatest actors of this generation. His talent was undeniable. He showed great charisma and great versatility in his roles. Val is good. That good? Certainly not. Even Marlon Brando dismissed his talent!
@@vardellsfolly5200 Nominations and awards mean nothing at all. Using our own eyes we can see that Ledger's only "famously good" work was in Batman. He did great! People loved his performance for a reason. But imagine that performance in your mind. Imagine his Joker and tell me if you think -- actually -- people are stupid and the performance was really nothing special. He died. That made a lot of people gush. I didn't gush. Dead or no dead, I look at the facts.
Now imagine (or watch) Kilmer's performance in this film. His eyes, his voice, his mannerisms. They are AT LEAST as good as Ledger's overrated (but good) permormance as Joker. You'll argue with me now and say "Yeah but what about blah" but before you do, ask yourself if you'd be even talking about Ledger if he wasn't dead. He was talented (all actors are). But he was also dead. That made a lot of people delude themselves into thinking he was more than he was. Human nature! Nothing wrong in it! But it's unbalanced people like you and your opinon on great acting.
The way Val twirled both guns in opposite directions was bad ass!!!
I never even noticed that until now!
Proof that he's not nearly as drunk as he's pretending to be.
***** he's no hypocrite, he just likes to sound like one. :p
+preston palomo And didn't even put down the cup! The man was ice cold.
preston palomo Or maybe he was so drunk he spun it two different directions? Or maybe he's so skilled he can spin it different directions while drunk? Who knows with Doc! :)
I’ve seen this scene at least 47,000 times, and one of the most underrated things is the total lack of hesitation by Ike in complying with Wyatt. What a great cowardly heel.
“Now tell ‘em to get back.”
Exactly 0.0025 seconds later “Go on now get back.”
Ike was always like this in the movie. He threw his sash on the ground rather than get killed.
Ike is a coward throughout the whole movie.
Even the train scene lol
MY NAME IS DOC
"I'm your huckleberry." - This quote represents my unwavering confidence and willingness to take on any challenge or confrontation. I see myself as the perfect match for anyone who dares to oppose me.
"Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave." - With this statement, I am taunting Johnny Ringo, implying that he appears fearful and defeated. I revel in the psychological warfare of the moment, using my words to undermine and intimidate my opponent.
"I have not yet begun to defile myself." - This quote showcases my rebellious and unapologetic nature. I refuse to conform to societal norms or expectations. I believe that true freedom comes from embracing one's own desires and indulging in life's pleasures.
"You're a daisy if you do." - This remark is delivered with a mix of sarcasm and superiority. It suggests that the other person's actions or choices will ultimately lead to their downfall or demise. I find amusement in pointing out their potential mistakes or missteps.
"I'm in my prime." - With this statement, I assert my self-assuredness and belief in my own abilities. I see myself as being at the height of my power and influence, ready to face any challenge or obstacle that comes my way.
"I'll be damned." - This phrase reflects a sense of resignation or acceptance in the face of difficult circumstances. It conveys a recognition that sometimes life deals us unfavorable cards, but I am determined to face adversity head-on.
"It seems poker's not your game, Ike. I know, let's have a spelling contest." - This quote reveals my sharp wit and enjoyment of banter. I use it to mock Ike, suggesting that his incompetence in poker renders him unfit for any intellectual challenge, offering a spelling contest as a sarcastic alternative.
"It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds." - This statement reflects my self-awareness of my own contradictions and inconsistencies. It acknowledges that I may preach one thing but act in a way that contradicts those principles, indicating a certain level of moral ambiguity.
"You know, Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it." - This quote reveals a vulnerable side to my character. Despite my rough exterior, I value friendship and loyalty. It expresses the significance of companionship and the emotional impact it has on me.
"There's no normal life, Wyatt, it's just life. Get on with it." - This quote embodies my philosophy of embracing life as it comes, without seeking or expecting a conventional sense of normalcy. It encourages living in the present moment and embracing the unpredictability of existence.
Because he's not as stupid as he appears, he saw a lot of action and he knew Wyatt is the real deal.
Kurt, killed it here. I love this scene. One of the best. "Not before I make your head into a canoe" Best line ever.
He couldn’t go with his main one liner splatter cherry pie all over the fuckin wall behind him because they were outside
This movie is one of best Westerns ever released, the cast had great chemistry and made each scene memorable.
Val Kilmer should've taken home an Oscar for his Doc Holliday portrayal, robbed!
The competition was intense that year. Hackman, Eastwood, Freeman Unforgiven. Nickolson A few good men. Sam Neill Richard Attenborough Jurrasic Park
This is still one of my all-time favorite movie lines to this day. Kurt Russel's intense and genuine delivery of the perfectly-worded threat backed up by Ike's (Stephen Lang) true yellow-bellied provocateur colors being exposed at gunpoint is cinematic perfection that puts a smile on my face every time.
That is the perfect description of Ike Clanton.
The versatility Lang shows, where he can play a cowardly cowboy and also play a cocky gun happy military general in Avatar
Ike played that perfectly, he really sounded "dead" scared.
This is a great western.
"You're not as stupid as you look, Ike"....makes me laugh out loud every time I hear it!
@Emiliano Miller Go on now get back.
Billy! He’ll kill me.
@@bryanprime3438 He's bluffin, let's rush em
Val Kilmer did kill this movie. He's the best Doc Holliday by far. Another great one with Val Kilmer is the saint. Good movie.
Check out Red Planet with Kilmer. I love that movie. Has Carrie Ann Moss too (from the Matrix)
Both Kilmer and Quaid played great roles as Doc Holliday. I am in the minority by giving the edge to Quaid's portrayal.
Kirk Douglas..bitches
I like Kirk Douglas! He's one of the very last Golden Age actors alive!
He was excellent in Heat
There is only one Val Kilmer. Respect! What a performance and what great writing. 'I have 2 guns one for each of you' .
Stephen Lang played a coward so freaking well in this movie its absolutely brilliant.
1:18 Doc spins his pistols in opposite directions......love it
Never even noticed that, makes this scene even more awesome!
THANKS dude... :D awesome skill indeed
JustineLaLoba that must have been a bitch to learn. As an actor
And still holding the cup at the same time
Didn't notice that till you mentioned it that is bad ass.
Coming here and seeing all the good reviews of this movie has made my day, was my late fathers favourite and mine too, glad Doc/Val get the recognition he deserves 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
BILLY:: He's So Drunk He can't Hit Nothin, In Fact - He's Probably Seeing Double
KILMER:: I Have 2 Guns, 1 For The Each Of Ya
No. He ain't bluffing.
leftcoaster67 yep, said that in the movie
My dad grew up in the streets of New York in the late 60's-late 70's... I've seen a few people doubt his word/resolve, but he never bluffed in serious situations. It's important to know if one of these people are bluffing when a friend thinks it's smart to take them on. Ike saved them all.
hahaha
Go on get back, Billy
@@bumaximous45 And you, Sandman, you're next.
"He's bluffing!" "No....he ain't bluffing!"
Ike could see in his eyes the determination. And the fact the revolver was cocked against his forehead.
You're not as stupid as you look Ike.
@@leftcoaster67 Wyatt was looking straight into Ike's eyes whe he said "You die first." As you said, Ike saw the determination. Yeah, and the gun as well.
@@i1uminoustv Vacancy open
@@loriwise236 now tell them to get back
Val Kilmer may not be the best actor out there but he was absolutely perfect and brilliant as Doc Holliday. This scene is a classic. "I got two guns, one for each of ya".
Haven't read a comment this unworthy in a long time. Kilmer was one of the best actors in his prime and pretty much made it impossible for anyone else to play Holiday.
Kilmer is incredible. He was even awesome in MacGruber. He typed and lip synced his few lines in Top Gun Maverick and made a highlight of an already great movie.
Everyone likes to point out Doc's lines in this movie, but "not before I make your head into a canoe" is pretty badass. And deserves as much praise.
The “you understand me” makes me feel like I’m a kid again and it’s my dad being stern. Lmao such a presence.
"Are you gonna do something', or just stand there and bleed" is also a killer line.
Admitted this scene centered mostly around Kurt Russell but Val Kilmer was a total badass in this movie.
Johnny Ringo: “I was only foolin”. Doc Holliday.....”I wasn’t” coolest line in the whole movie!!!!!
Yes it was
"I almost thought you wouldnt show"
"Im your huckleberry"
"My fights not with you Holliday."
"I beg to differ sir, we started a game we never quite got to finish. play for blood, remember?"
"I was only foolin"
"I wasn't"
@@Shiirow in an interview with Michael biehn (Ringo) he said that when Ringo agreed to duel Doc that he perceived it as genuine fun. Two truly badass characters, did not give a fuck about death.
"I was just foolin about"
Wyatt Earp is my friend!
“I have two guns one for each of ya” loooooove that line! Kills me every trip!
Tombstone is one of those movies that will hang around forever. Based on true life events. With top notch catch phrases and legendary performances.
How Val Kilmer didn't get an Oscar for Doc is astounding..
It's called the Oscars regressing into the same category as Nobel and Pulitzer. Once honored awards, now considered bad jokes among the civilizations of man. (I do 100% agree with you that Kilmer deserves an Oscar, though)
@@HK--nf1sc I think it was more than the competition. Michael Biehn said Val has an undeserved reputation as being hard to work with, but he just doesn't suffer fools gladly. Michael doesn't either.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya." hahaha. Awesome.
just recently figured out that Ike is played by Stephen Lang, highly underrated actor!
I agree. According to one of the crew, he showed up drunk every day. Talk about method acting.
@@markforster6457 You can almost see the booze sweating from his pores...
Tell ya this film is criminal that it still goes unnoticed. Got some of the toughest lines you will ever hear in any movie.
I have two guns; one for each of ya
I was just going to say that lol. I love that part.
I love how he spins them in opposite directions. Drunk, but still an ace pistolier.
Good catch, I felt it seemed off, but now I know it was stylistically off by Kilmer. Actually more difficult then two simultaneous symmetrical spins. Playing the mindless drunk.
That is the type of line writers will call each other in 3 in the morning to half brag to their writing friends about their brilliant quip and half double check if it was lifted, since only good ideas get plagiarized.
fenderstratguy great translation
Nope he aint bluffin, one of the funniest lines in this movie.
wow...and just watched Don't Breathe ....great actor !
"you're not as stupid as you look IKE...."
Funny stuff, I like also in the casino, where Ike tells Wyatt, law don't go around here, then a second, Wyatt as only he could cuts him off in mid sentence with, I heard you the first time, Well check it out yourself it is funny. The guy playing Ike here ho is he?
Stephen Lang...He also played in the movie "Gettysburg" the same year this was filmed....1993
I think he's my favorite in this film. The whole cast is wonderful but I really liked him. You probably know this but you can also see him in Avatar, Gangster Squad and Don't Breathe. I haven't seen DB yet.
"You die first. Get it? Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe. Do you understand me?" Probably one of the best lines in the whole damn movie, aside from all of Doc's catchphrases lol!
This is one of my all-time favorite westerns. I don't usually watch many movies over and over again.......
except this one. What a great cast put together. Kurt Russell held it together and Val Kilmer's best acting
job in my mind.
And did I say great cast......worth saying it again.
Ike actor was fantastic in this movie. Very underrated performance
Yeah Steven Lang is a great actor.
He's also good in the Movie: Avatar as Col. Quarich,Gods and Generals as. General Stonewall Jackson, Gettysburg as General Pickett which he filmed at the same time as Tombstone was getting film.
And a few other actors from Tombstone were also in Gettysburg including Sam Elliott who played General Buford.
Stephan lang did a lot of period movies, his depiction of General George Pickett in Gettysburg was incredible, his look of shock and grief when his troops were mowed down attacking the union center was spot on.
@@kdrapertrucker Lee: General, you must look to your division.
Pickett: General Lee... I have no division.
Lang is great actor. His performance as Stonewall Jackson in God's an Generals is lights-out.
@@jtm726 I knew he was going to be the main antagonist in Avatar but that speech he made to the newbies was inspiring. It really set the stage for how invested he was in fighting and how tough an opponent he was going to be.
"I have two guns; one for each of ya." Badass. Love, love, love Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer). One of the best performances to have been cheated out of an Oscar.
Best modern day Western! Probably one of the most quoted movies ever too!
I'd watch this scene over and over again..and still not bored. Wow.. What a performance, just brilliant.
And you - music lover, you're next!
James Edgar Drunk piano player. You're so drunk, you can't hit anything. In fact, you're probably seeing double.
+Jonny D. Kelly I have two guns... one for each of ya.
James Edgar wow your good
Jonny D. Kelly amazing, just amazing
Frederic fuckin Chopin ;)
Thanks to this movie, I was introduced to the lovely, soothing music of Mr. Frederic Fucking Chopin.
“You die first get it?” Kurt’s delivery of that line was so perfect
If you look carefully when Doc says "I have two guns, one for each of ya" he spins both guns, one backwards one forwards with the cup still on his finger. When the guns stop one is aimed at the mans head and one at his heart. Doc Holiday is truly a one of a kind bad ass!
val kilmer was just amazing in this film
This is one of the best western movies ever made. Watched The Magnificent 7 yesterday but it cannot compare to this.
Old one, or the new one?
New one.
The new one honestly just doesn't have that soulful feel that the original one with Yul Brenner and Steve McQueen did. That movie, Rio Bravo, Tombstone, and of course The Good The Bad And The Ugly hands down are the best westerns ever made. EVER O.O
@@zayerwilliams9836 True Grit as well
@@MrNowayjose1 the new true grit or the John Wayne version? I prefer the John Wayne version purely for.the scene at the horse trader n the somewhat optimistic but open ending. The new one is fine but the ending is a bit of a downer.
"No! ...he ain't bluffin'..." makes me chuckle every time
Damn it all to hell, the Val Kilmer Tombstone clips are enough reason for a time machine to be invented so it can be used to right the injustice of him being robbed of an Oscar for supporting actor.
"You're probably seeing double."
" I have two guns. One for each of ya."
So badass.
Just when I thought Kurt had the best line in the scene, Val comes in right at the end and steals the show XD
I more appreciated how Wyatt was standing alone in that street to dispense justice while nobody else stepped up, not even the sheriff who was merely rubbernecking. And then comes in Wyatt's best friend to back him up. It's not about stealing the show, it's about being there for your friend when he is being a suicidal maniac doing the right thing.
That's what made Doc awesome.
@fosterpainter that's really cool!
i watched this movie so many times that i practically knew the script. Best western on my list
How would ya like to have doc n Wyatt for friends?
Doc always came outta no where! Sweetttt!
I could never get tired of watching scenes with Val Kilmer playing Doc.
The balls on Wyatt for not fearing death in the eyes of multiple enemies
It's a matter of persective I figure. Earp's been in enough life-or-death situations at this point to know that if a fight starts, with him in the middle of several opponents armed with guns, there's no way he'll survive. But he also know 1) most people are not interested in dying, and 2) the one that moves first is usually the leader. So when Ike stepped forward, Earp's world narrowed down to just him and Ike, and the fact that if he saw or heard *anything* moving suddenly near him, he would pull the trigger, killing Ike, and then try to get the next closest guy in his line of sight. He knew he probably wouldn't get the rest of them, but Ike's death was guaranteed. Ike could see this in his eyes, and not wanting to die, he told the others to back off. Wyatt's willingness to die trumped Ike's desire to live in this situation. Simple as that.
Look up "Hagakure" if you want to learn more about this mindset.
@@eurosalamander Wyatt actually did face down a mob in Tombstone. The mob had come to lynch a gambler named Johnnie Behind the Deuce. Earp confronted them alone & told them that he would kill the 1st man that stepped forward and as many more that he could before they got to him. The mob decided that backing off was the wiser decision. All you have to do, if you wonder if Earp would have done as he told the mob; is to look at his photo and at his eyes. They are ice cold! He did not bluff! In fact, to illustrate the cold purpose of the man you only need to know what Virgil Earp's wife once said about him. "I never saw Wyatt ever laugh".
the fact he doesn't even flinch when pulling the hammer back and putting it right to someones head. the best damned acting you can get.
Kurt Russel was superb in this and other movies. And largely overlooked by much of Hollywood. He had me believing he really was Wyatt Earp.
I think Kurt played his career exactly how he wanted to. Probably got paid well, but didn't go Hollywood. Man of his own terms.
Val Kilmer's line is even better than Kurt Russell's... and that's a rare thing, to be able to top Kurt Russell for quotable dialogue.
The entire movie is just Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer one-upping each other's zingers.
Kurt Russell wrote in a lot of the lines anyways
Jake Davis the late writer Kevin Jarre was writer for movie. Kilmer and Russell did help with lines and direct the movie original director Jarre was fired from directing and Director George Cosmatos was there more to keep things going smoothly while Russell helmed The Director chair as told by Russell himself. Actually Tombstone essentially had 3 Directors when Jarre was fired he took over writing.
No not better
"" one of kurt russell's best proformances""!!!!!
Two guns...one for the each of ya....THAT LINE cracks me up to this day. The deadpan humour.
I don't think there is a more "gangster" movie than this in existence. Every scene, every line is to it's core the hardest shit, and the older I get the better it gets.👏👏
"No. He ain't bluffin'." Lol
He'll kill me.
ForceMaximus84 slow clap.......fades away
Great acting. You can actually see the panicked fear in his eyes.
"You not stupid as you look Ike"
Still to this day ,one of the greatest movie ever made .Like others Val Kilmer performance was amazing,yet he’s underrated imo !!
"You're not as stupid as you look, Ike." Love that line.
He never denied he was seeing double😂😂
Ike: "No....he ain't bluffin. G'wan now, git back...Billy! He'll kill me." hahahahaha true that though, he wasn't as stupid as he looks.
No one could play Ike better than Stephen Lang.
This movie, in general, was put together perfectly.
So true ..Ike survived the movie.. finally got chased and tossed the red sash. 👍👍🔥🔥
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
What a fantastic bit of writing.
Val Kilmer is/was the shit!
He was taught the art of quick draw, gun slinging and twirling by a professional competitive quick draw artist that was there on the movie set while this shot was being filmed, in fact Val constantly walked around the set twirling and spinning his guns.
@@davemaghoney7087 😅
I always thought Steven Lang as Ike Clanton was gold in this movie. Such a great actor
How in the hell is it that Stephen Lang, the actor playing Ike, looks YOUNGER in Avatar than he does here?? Amazing actor, and now, buff as fuck.
Adolph Oliver Bush He played in Avatar? I saw that movie 3 timesI didn't catch that what character did he play?
Lori Wise
The badass guy with the scars on his head, and muscles all over. He played that one, lol.
Adolph Oliver Bush OMG now I have to see it again,Thanks
hughesfan100
Hey man, chill out. I heard ya, loud and clear, and agree. He was excellent as Stonewall Jackson in Gods and Generals (have it on DVD) and again in Avatar. He said he started lifting weights for a role on Broadway, and just took to it. Yeah, I'd say he did, haha.
hughesfan100 who r u mad at ? Im to old
to be a yuppie. That was the 80s sorry if it
was me ur mad at, no intention of making anyone angry. I can do that to my roommate
LOL
I have two guns, one for each of ya.
One of the best parts of any movie ever.
Doc always had wyatts back. A bond more than friendship.
Stephen Lang.
a masterclass actor.
His stonewall Jackson is perfection.
Why Johnny Ringo you look like someone just walked over your grave...
Ringo must have seen something in the cup-twirling doc did at the saloon to try and back out that way.
Radrook it was because the preacher in the beginning said a pale white horse will come and riding him is death and when he sees him in the woods doc is super sick and pale just my take on it
Urrcreavesh what?
@Urrcreavesh I always figured Doc did the cups because he didn't want to show Ringo has fast he was. Plus the cup scene was a great show of Doc's personality.
Fights not with you Holliday
When you review every scene one at a time you realize how many great actors are in this movie .
I never saw the backwards flip until it was noted. I have this on VHS and would watch it constantly. Hells coming!!!!!!
Is it just me or is it that in every tombstone scene I watch on UA-cam everyone says val kilmer should get an Oscar (should tho)
Because he should have won one. Quite simply one of the finest performances on film.
He was up against shaw shank or Forrest Gump.
Yeh tho I do agree this performance was as outstanding as his performance in willow
I love how Doc is just casually strolling up finishing his drink gun ready to go at around 50 seconds in
One of my favorite things about this movie has got to be all of the fantastic quotes. They kind of remind me of some of Clint Eastwood's lines in his classic movies. This movie is full of them and they just stick with you.
"You're not as stupid as you look, Ike." Sweetest compliment in movie history. :D
My favorite scene from my favorite western. So many great lines.
Ike's expression was priceless
Best movie ever! "Not before I turn your head into a canoe." Need to remember that in case I ever need it.