I don't speak Japanese, but I used the translation captions, and I really enjoyed your comparison, and all the details you added. The Navi800 looks amazing; mine's in the mail right now. Have you tried the INFUN GT200?
I know the INFUN GT200, but I don't think it's better than the Navi 800, so I don't plan to buy it. Compared to B01, Navi800 has the disadvantages that the front is bright and the back is dark, and the approaching person feels dazzling.
@@chiguly You're right, the cut off line is not as sharp on the Navi800, however, the optics are better than the B01. The B01 has a conical flashlight-like main beam, similar to all the cheap (and expensive) bike lights that have no thought put into the actual beam pattern. Beyond that, it has some secondary illumination. The pro, as you said, is the cut off line. As for the INFUN, its strength is the width of its beam, its brightness, and its battery life. I love it. However, it is very heavy and requires a wire between the light unit and the battery. I do mostly use the GT200 on the lowest 800 lumen setting, so hopefully when I get the Navi800, I will be happy with the output. I'd love to try the Cateye Gvolt70 or Gvolt100, but I can't find anywhere that ships them to Canada 😔
@@NeutralGenericUser I can't speak English so I'll omit the reason, for various reasons I prefer the B01 optics, but now I'm using the Navi 800. Like the Gvolt100, CATEYE isn't an option because Gvolt can't turn on the light while powered via USB, and it's still microUSB. Although unofficial, B01 has switched to Type-C.
@@chiguly I really appreciate your replies. I wish I knew Japanese; I love Japan. Japanese people are so meticulous and detailed, and your video on these lights proves that. You won't find an English video that is this in-depth on these topics. Thank you!
@@chiguly - San and NeutalGenericUser-San. Really interesting and very good test. When I bought my B01 it had an issue with the led I thought at first since it sometimes stopped working. Battery was very snugg and tried both an 18650 and 21700 with the same horrific and dangerous result when driving at night in the middle of traffic. I emailed customer support and never ever got a reply from their 'very good' support. I received a full refund from the company I bought it from after a couple of messages. A couple of weeks later I decided to check it again and found out that there was something sticking on the contact inside the lamp. I cleaned it with some isopropanol and it worked normally. Now last week I noticed a rattle in the light. I hate rattles and decided to check. A small 'curly ring' fell out when I removed the battery. I think it is from the spring that makes contact with the plus side of the battery. edit : Just checked it with a flashlight inside the B01 and took a photo. I am going to mail them again. If I get a reply from them I will put it here. Edit 2 : Just managed to open it up at the front. Very tightly screwed and I needed to apply some force to open it. So you don't need to remove glass etc. Just the barrel and you are about 1cm away from the pcb. The contact spring is definitely broken. I am not going to keep myself busy with the support which did not even reply to me last time. I am going to try to install a new contact spring. Also just checked when I received the light. It arrived in September 2021 so it has not even survived 8 months and I do not ride off road only on asphalt. I would say that this has been a very bad experience.
In terms of usability and accessibility Lumintop beats Enfitnix flashlight. Two types of batteries: 21700/18650, and available with way better warmer LED with higher CRI. By the way, it's pathetic that there are so few USB-C bike flashlights with a removable cells and road legal light beam shape. In the case of Enfitnix, forcing you to buy their strange cells is too bad. In Lumintop you can use whatever baterry you want (almost).
Navi and LUMINTOP are good.(Wide:800>B01. Battery:B01>800. 800's battery is special but cheap.) Are you interested in Towild BR1000 and GENTOS XB-800R? ( I read GENTOS XB-800R's maunal. XB-800R's battery is similar to Navi 800. Are they the same?)
***2021年5月からB01がType-Cに切り替わっているようです、それと現在のB01は私の初期の物と違い色温度が低くかなり赤いです、これは大きなマイナスポイントです***
25:33で注釈を入れていますが誤字が有るのでわかりやすく訂正すると、B01は時速20km以上で走行する際に照らしてほしい前方数メートルのスポットを狙って照らしてくれますが、Navi800は全体や手前は明るいものの一番照らしてほしいスポットが暗く感じます(ネットのレビューに同様の意見があるようです)、そのくせ対向者にはNavi800の方が明らかに眩しいです。
公共・対向者への配慮、速度を出す、(夜間)目がいい若者、ならB01。
光量、ならNavi800(追加の欠点、PDで充電できません、片側がType-Aでないと駄目です)
手間を考えなければB01を2台付けるのが一番いいです。
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B01は2年を待たずに故障し(充電が正常にできなくなり)ました、バッテリーは問題ありません、現在はmicrousbからtype-cに変わり回路にも変更があったというレビューもあるのでこの点はどうかなっているかもしれませんが。
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Navi800は上側のカットが甘くStVZO系を言い切れません、EOS530というライトがしっかりカットされていてB01と2灯で運用すると光量と配光は完璧になります、興味がある方はこちらの動画をどうぞua-cam.com/video/EW4Sh2LfXp4/v-deo.html
素晴らしい比較
説明も完璧
ありがとうございます
I don't speak Japanese, but I used the translation captions, and I really enjoyed your comparison, and all the details you added. The Navi800 looks amazing; mine's in the mail right now. Have you tried the INFUN GT200?
I know the INFUN GT200, but I don't think it's better than the Navi 800, so I don't plan to buy it.
Compared to B01, Navi800 has the disadvantages that the front is bright and the back is dark, and the approaching person feels dazzling.
@@chiguly You're right, the cut off line is not as sharp on the Navi800, however, the optics are better than the B01. The B01 has a conical flashlight-like main beam, similar to all the cheap (and expensive) bike lights that have no thought put into the actual beam pattern. Beyond that, it has some secondary illumination. The pro, as you said, is the cut off line. As for the INFUN, its strength is the width of its beam, its brightness, and its battery life. I love it. However, it is very heavy and requires a wire between the light unit and the battery. I do mostly use the GT200 on the lowest 800 lumen setting, so hopefully when I get the Navi800, I will be happy with the output.
I'd love to try the Cateye Gvolt70 or Gvolt100, but I can't find anywhere that ships them to Canada 😔
@@NeutralGenericUser I can't speak English so I'll omit the reason, for various reasons I prefer the B01 optics, but now I'm using the Navi 800.
Like the Gvolt100, CATEYE isn't an option because Gvolt can't turn on the light while powered via USB, and it's still microUSB. Although unofficial, B01 has switched to Type-C.
@@chiguly I really appreciate your replies. I wish I knew Japanese; I love Japan. Japanese people are so meticulous and detailed, and your video on these lights proves that. You won't find an English video that is this in-depth on these topics. Thank you!
@@chiguly - San and NeutalGenericUser-San. Really interesting and very good test. When I bought my B01 it had an issue with the led I thought at first since it sometimes stopped working. Battery was very snugg and tried both an 18650 and 21700 with the same horrific and dangerous result when driving at night in the middle of traffic. I emailed customer support and never ever got a reply from their 'very good' support. I received a full refund from the company I bought it from after a couple of messages.
A couple of weeks later I decided to check it again and found out that there was something sticking on the contact inside the lamp. I cleaned it with some isopropanol and it worked normally.
Now last week I noticed a rattle in the light. I hate rattles and decided to check. A small 'curly ring' fell out when I removed the battery. I think it is from the spring that makes contact with the plus side of the battery. edit : Just checked it with a flashlight inside the B01 and took a photo. I am going to mail them again. If I get a reply from them I will put it here.
Edit 2 : Just managed to open it up at the front. Very tightly screwed and I needed to apply some force to open it. So you don't need to remove glass etc. Just the barrel and you are about 1cm away from the pcb. The contact spring is definitely broken. I am not going to keep myself busy with the support which did not even reply to me last time. I am going to try to install a new contact spring. Also just checked when I received the light. It arrived in September 2021 so it has not even survived 8 months and I do not ride off road only on asphalt. I would say that this has been a very bad experience.
Great and detailed review!
私も気になって両方かって同じ様な比較をして似た感想を得ました。
今はB01をもう一つ買って左右に配置し、ワイド運用としています。
Navi800を選ばなかった理由を伺ってもいいですか?
動画でも指摘があったようにNaviの上向きの光がきつい事が理由です。
動画よりももう少し遠方を照らす運用をしているので、
友人とB01を持ち寄って二灯仕様をテストした結果、
あの運用となりました。
@@qetuo2013 大変参考になる回答ありがとうございます。
B01で明るく照らしている所をNavi800で同様の光量になるように狙うと対向者はかなり眩しいですよね、現在そのようにして試用運用しているのですが、やはり良識ある人は躊躇されますよね。
navi800の電池はどういった時に交換するのですか?
電池単体で売ってますか?
モバイルバッテリーを持ち歩きたくない場合は出先で電池が切れた時に交換できると思います、私ならモバイルバッテリーから給電しますが。
今はAmazonで売っていませんが過去には電池が単体で売っていました、海外では現在も購入できます。
ちなみにNavi800は現在お勧めしていません、一般的な眩しいライトよりはいいですが。
@@chiguly 現時点で一番マシなライトはなんですか?
@@Pekkamu どちらも国内では販売されていないと思いますが少し高いRHL3000と安いけど光量がもう少し欲しいLIG113です、どちらもaliexpressから購入できます、RHL3000は安いタイミングがあったら買いたいです。
RHL3000は想像ですが、LIG113は現在のメインライトで動画も作っています。
@@chiguly LIG113良さそうですね
でも、通学で街頭のない川沿いを走る程度なので800ルーメンくらいでもいいかなと思ってます。その場合はやはりnavi800が良いでしょうか
Navi800のほうが照射幅が広くて歩行者とか縁石にも気づきやすいですね~。ただアタッチメントや電池の問題があるのでB01ユーザーなら買い換えずに使うかなぁ。
私は安いUltraFire502bを下向きでホルダーに付けて使ってます。
自分もGVOLT70、B01、NAVI800とそれぞれ使って見ましたけど専ら常用するのはNAVI800になりましたね。
他の二つは単体だと真っ暗な道ではちょっと心細い感が有ります。
併用するならGVOLT70とNAVI800が良いです。NAVI800とB01の併用は照射範囲が結構被る印象。そしてフロントタイヤ周りがメッチャ賑やかになるw
NAVIは爪が折れるってレビューがちらほらありますがどんなもんでしょうか
I wish lumintop had smart mode.. why don’t they make new Version? This model is old
In terms of usability and accessibility Lumintop beats Enfitnix flashlight. Two types of batteries: 21700/18650, and available with way better warmer LED with higher CRI. By the way, it's pathetic that there are so few USB-C bike flashlights with a removable cells and road legal light beam shape. In the case of Enfitnix, forcing you to buy their strange cells is too bad. In Lumintop you can use whatever baterry you want (almost).
So the enfitnix won't work with a normal 18650?
@@bumblebee4520 no, that's the point.
Navi and LUMINTOP are good.(Wide:800>B01. Battery:B01>800. 800's battery is special but cheap.)
Are you interested in Towild BR1000 and GENTOS XB-800R? ( I read GENTOS XB-800R's maunal. XB-800R's battery is similar to Navi 800. Are they the same?)
The most important requirement for lights is ANTI GLARE.
So BR-1000 and XB-800R are not an option.
私もNavi800とB01両方を買いましたがNavi800は欠点が多くて使う回数が減りました。Navi800は照射距離が短いのと
替えの電池が売ってないそして何より眩しいのがダメですね。B01は光の色(暖色系)が好みでないのが残念です。
2024年1月の次点で最も使用頻度の多いライトがROCKBROS RHL 3000です、このライトは眩しくもなく
照射距離、照射幅共に長くバッテリー容量も10000mAhと十分、価格はアリエクのセールで5300円でした。
Navi800が眩しいという人が眩しくないというのならかなり期待できますね、更にB01の様な暖色でないと、ちなみに先月ROCKBROSにRHLの1500と3000返すから貸してってメールしたんですけど(簡単に言うと)駄目でした。
プラス側にマイナス端子もあるタイプの電池なのかな?
リチウムイオン電池は過充電になると爆発するので
18650の飛び出ている方は保護回路が着いていて
飛び出ていない方は着いてないのだと思います
照射野の形状が・・・
Olight の方が やはり
理想的な逆三角形の照射形状だから
遠くの照射エリアが広い方が高速に対応してる
アタッチメントもやはり安く仕上げるために
enfitniz とb01は無茶なアタッチメント設計やなw
お、久々のチグリーのライト動画だ!ここでB01紹介されて、アマゾンで取り扱いされてから速攻買ったで
Navi800は自転車板ライトスレで「手前ばっかり明るくて扱いづらい」って聞いてたから手を出してなかったよ
Navi800はGVolt70、100みたいに遠くを照らすライトと組み合わせて使うのがよさそうだな
ありがとうございます、そのスレは見てないんですが、走行ラインを照らしてくれないという私の評価と一緒ですね。
他の人もそう言うとなるとやはりB01とどっちがいいいのか分かりませんね。
ナビ800の方は、カットラインが出てるようにみえました!
ua-cam.com/video/EW4Sh2LfXp4/v-deo.html この動画だと多少分かるのですがnavi800のカットラインは甘いです
0:04 amazaon ww猜疑サイトかってワロタw
NAVI800の電池が特殊だから18650使えるB01のがいいだろうな〜とか思いつつも、しかしいま自分は18650を複数持ってるわけでもないしそれ用の充電器も無い。
ので18650を使い回す環境構築にそこそこ金がかかっちゃう。
結局、ダイソーの500円のモバイルバッテリーを接続したりするならどっちも一緒だな〜と思うのですが、NAVIは爪が折れるって話が気になりますね。
表題のはコスパ最強かも知れないけど、
busch&mullerのIXON SPACEやsonのedelux2は高いけど明るさ、広さ最強っすよ。
電源特殊な奴も視野に入れるならsuper novaとかも凄い。
屁股,谢谢
最強の明るさではないのに謡い文句に偽りありだ。
最強=明るいなんて考えてませんでした(笑)知らないでしょうから教えておきますが、自転車用ライトの中では価格と機能でトップ3に入る、知る人ぞ知る2機種なんですよ
細かい説明が長すぎてだるい。
そこまで時間かける意味ないでしょ