Vinnie Colaiuta & Karizma - Nothing Personal
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- The Alien performing at his best.
Vinnie Colaiuta is the most on demand drummer in the world.
He has played with (just to name a few of them) :
Frank Zappa, Joni Mitchell, Jeff Beck, Sting, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, George Duke, Leonard Cohen, Tom Scott, Backstreet Boys, Megadeth, Barbra Streisand, Paul Anka, Marilyn Scott, Allan Holdsworth, Asia, Chris Botti, George Benson, Lee Ritenour, Roberto Carlos, Duran Duran, Frank Gambale, John Patitucci, Chaka Khan, Jeff Berlin, Mike Stern, Abe Laboriel, Bill Evans, Olivia Newton-John, Stanley Clarke, The Commodores, The Temptations, Cristina Aguilera, Gino Vannelli, Quincy Jones, James Taylor, John McLaughlin, Andrea Bocelli, Joe Cocker, Jing Chi, Anastacia, Michael Bublè, Burt Bacharach........
Like him or not....Vinnie is untouchable. There's not one drummer alive or dead who could pull off the shit he does. Not only are those chops blazing, but to fit any and all ideas and metric modulation played to perfection inside of any time signature is astounding. Vinnie can also get a bit primal in his playing, unlike others in his league. He's Tony Williams, Steve Gadd, Buddy Rich and Jack Dejohnette rolled into one.
Weckl could do it and make it more musically interesting IMO, but i respect Vinnie's jazz chops for sure
Sorry...Weckl is too mechanical,cold ....Colaiuta aside from his chops,is “Versatility” in one man...Look at his discography.Incomparable.
The only other drummer I can think of that would have been able to do Vinnies's stuff similarly to how he does it would be young Jeff Porcaro. Back when Jeff was 15-16 years old around 1970-71, Jeff had chops similar to Vinnie 9 years later. Jeff had an absolutely ridiculously quick right foot, and insane left hand chops, doing some pretty crazy technical feats no one else could do at the time. And weirdly enough, one or two years later, he just stopped, and never did the technical stuff again. Just focused on time and groove, and that was it. Maybe that's why he went to all the trouble he did to make Vinnie the star he became in the early 80's, because Vinnie reminded him of himself when he was younger. Off course, Vinnie took it a whole lot further than Jeff did, but they were made of the same material for sure. Early Jeff just sounds like Vinnie.
It's not 1993 anymore, check out Justin Brown, Marcus Gilmore, Eric Harland...
@@abysssss They could play the same thing and both sound prefect yet different. Legends!
Colaiuta is one of the greatest who ever lived. I saw him with Zappa and Jeff Beck and he can lay down a fat groove and mean it. Also saw him with Herbie Hancock on Austin City Limits. Simply beautiful
Thankfully Vinnie is still well & very much alive ! Monster drummer !
There is a reason Vinnie is asked to play on hundreds of recordings from pop music to fusion and everything in between and the reason is his Musicality which is fenominal compared to all other drummers out there.
So true! I have a couple of favorite artists working with Vinnie and if they take another drummer, I am sad. Even if the other drummer is very famous. Vinnie does things, in which he is irreplacable.
Vinnie goes beyond being a good technical drummer, he has true muscianship, understanding of musical form, legendary site reading abiltiy and can add so much to a song in near perfect time. That is about as good as you can get! That is why he is in such demand, and why he is one of the worlds greatest drummers.
sorry to break it to everybody. Vinnie Colaiuta is the best drummer to have ever walked the planet. He's hired for more sessions than you'd ever imagine. No drummer can be that busy. Check his schedule for cutting Platinum albums on his site. IT"S SICK!
The thing is that Vinnie does a lot of classic licks that other guys like Gadd, Williams, etc. did years ago and Billy does his own thing and created so much stuff that all of the others are learning from. Billy just has a totally unique sound, I think Vinnie is still trying to define himself. I've heard vinnie play and I couldn't tell it was Vinnie, yet when Billy plays, it is identifiable within 2 seconds. It's real hard for people to have a definite sound and style that is unique.
Vinnie can sub for ANYONE...
nobody can do what he does...
Best Drummer Ever
Oh my God, Vinnie is a Monster! :)
Oh Vinnie, Vinnie...now, it's personal.
Neil Stubenhaus tying together all the beautiful madness, he really is something else. Great, just great
Vinnie is too complex for some people, Zappa created a monster with this man!
Amen!!😂👍
He was a monster before Zappa. How do you think he got the gig?
Mais uma confirmação de que Mr.Vinnie Colaiuta é um dos melhores, sua percepção musical é sensacional, sua dinâmica é perfeita...
Muito Obrigado Vinnie!!!!
vinnie you is awesome!
All i want for Christmas is Vinnie’s flow.🌊🎅🏽
Vincenzo is an Alien :), nice title, this guy is from another galaxy.
vinnie è semplicemente fantastico ;)
GREAT BAND, GREAT MUSICIANS. VERY UNIQUE AND SO INTERESTING MUSIC.
Best drummer of all time.No one combines everything he did all at once.
vinnie,the best.
Love this clip! Love Vinnie!
Stacks of textures and blinding speed=The Alien
Colaiuta is playing his own melodies over the song melody, he's not inserting things he's practiced for that song, like Weckl would do for instance and Vinnies way more consistant than Cobham. He's creating on the spot, so he's playing 'music' not just playing drums.
I don't know how 'displacing the groove' can get boring, especially at Vinnie's level, which is the bar raised to its highest.
I haven't heard any drummer who can play with the precision Vinnie does, he nails everything.
Maestro, maestro, maestro y maestro. Master, master, master and master.
esta de puta madre!! a colaiuta hay que hacerle un monumento, es un verdadero genio de la bateria
When I was 13 years old David Garfield came to my home town of Upland CA and jammed with our local fusion trio at a coffee house a few times. The trio was called Potato Salad (Kurt Doey- Guitar Felix-Bass Dave McNickels- Drums). They played a lot of Karizma tunes like I'm Buzzed, Big Bone, Los Labatomies tunes too. As a young teenager being able to see these guys rip in a coffee house for free was so cool, it spawned my music career! Any body ever heard of 'Potato Salad' the band..'?
Vinnie definitively my favorite drummer
Wooh!
he's just so good...wow
vinnie: por siempre el mejor!!!!!!!
vinnie is a balanced muso..a fuck off technical player with an amazing ear to play what the song needs..grooved technicality is what i call it ,as his dynamics are so effective they seem to blend with ease into the numerous compositons he's played on which is why he is in top demand...a comsumet professional without a doubt..thanks 4 the post!!
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I hear ya, man. Irony is so hard to decipher when things are written, rather than spoken.
OMG!! Vinnie !!!!
Vinnie = pure genius.
Good Lord... Respect...
Holy cow.
Sim, pra vida toda!!!
yeah thank u for that
It's like this, if I like the video, it is added to my favorites list. Anyone can check out what I like. If Vinnie is on a video I like, I add it.
But what is frustrating is people saying Vinnie is better than the legendary masters of jazz/fusion. Until he can spit out a recording/video that is, I just can't agree with those that think he is. There are other people other than myself that don't think Vinnie is or better than a legendary jazz/fusion master.
THANK GOD! Someone who totally, totally gets it! I have theories about why and how the players became better technicians and much, much less interesting musicians (e.g., the rise of rock and jazz curriculuum in music schools churning out proficient, if soulless robots) but don't find 2 many sympathetic ears on this score. My big problem w groove-meisters is their predictability. I mean, after a measure or two one totally gets it & they've nothing left to say that u can't see coming a mile off.
well said
Until now never heard the Actual proof influence in this composition... Nice!
He played with Sting in the "Soul Cages" world tour from 1992 and after that was invited to stay for the next album "The Summoner's Tales" from 1993.
i would love to see that concert
Vinnie is consistently fucking unbelievable - Jaysus!
@cavoglavi I play Gretsch USA Maple drums and I have had nothing but compliments on the sound. They are not as round sounding as say, birch drums or Yamaha, but do have that throaty drum sound that I love. Best sounding drums I've ever owned.
dios mio....dios mio....! que cosas!
If you haven't heard Vinnie play, you probably don't listen to music!
Not my favorite drummer, but definitivly one of the greatest of the world...
I think we are so lucky to have him with us. Avedis Zildjan once publicly said that he thought Vinnie was the best drummer in the world at the time. So did Mr. Remo (forgot his full name). Masters like Vinnie, they are as successfull and rich as they can get in this business. Corea, Hancock, Beck, Sting apparently love him. What should matter more to a professional musician than that when it comes to making a living?
He makes me wanna quit playing and sit in the audience for good, though (lol).
fantastico muito bom..
I've never thought of Vinnie as being 'better', and I'm sure that most other Vinnie fans don't either. I have never considered Vinnie to be 'better' than Williams or Rich, just different. I don't care about who is better, but I know who I would rather listen to.
This wasn't a contest of I can play better than they can. from an avid listener, I am listening to what they are playing, the melody, the arrangement, etc. and it is one of those songs/performances that I would listen to a couple of times, but that's about it. It's too bad, but a lot of the newer generation fusion players aren't putting out the same level of quality as the early masters have/are. I have actually played stuff they would have a difficult time playing, but that's not the point.
heelll yeeah
@Gorgalisin oh well, maybe I was too harsh, it's of course great to hear them play jazz and I love when a group has some flavor in their music and suddenly changes it to other flavor!
que mostro!!
the fill at 6:27 is sooooooooooo tasteful
nice to break it up with some space before he goes on another all out onslaught HAHAHA
GREATEST DRUMMER!!!!
Thanks Lord Jesus
The only person who could ever keep pace with Vinnie was Frank Zappa - Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar. Like most ex-FZ musicians, he's struggled to find any musical setting in which he can let rip because he would rip everybody's head off. He has to hold back, contain and protect most bands he's with. His Led Boots with Beck and Wilkenfeld illustrates how he played the other side of the rhythm and Jeff and Tal were just holding on to dear life to get to the end. Gets isolating when you are that musically ahead of your contemporaries - but Zappa gave him the best run for his money...
+strav12 You must not have heard Vinnie play with Chick Corea. ;-)
With Patitucci on bass? Yeah - that was awesome - and all respect to Corea - but not with the intamcy that Vinnie had with Frank through playing in his band? It was a stunning gig though!
Goynes42 Or Alan Holdsworth's secrets record!
I don't know about that; Alan Holdsworth and Herbie Hancock come to mind.
One thing that a lot of contemporary drummers miss the point on is that they seem to play to expose their massive amounts of chops, whereas the drummers from the '70's fusion era were playing more WITH the other band members and the song and it seemed much more cohesive. Sometimes Vinnie actually plays the song and doesn't put too much extra, sometimes he is just playing what someone else already did, or he's playing WAY too much and detracts from the actual song. It depends on the gig.
VInnie!!!! Stubenhaus (one of THE greatest!) gets lost after Vinnies solo bars at 06:54.
Mike - I believe thomas even took a few lessons from Vinnie. It's hard not to be influenced by his playing!
Well, juanbarros88, I have been practicing playing a groove and adding an extra beat or triplet at any point without thinking, so I know how to displace grooves, it is just a matter of doing when it actually makes sense to do it, but that depends on the song. Trilok Gurtu rails on Vinnie with beat displacement, but he does it and it fits the song, IMO.
I watched his solo and I can tell that Vinnie has pretty similar technique as Virgil Donati. Or Virgil has similar technique as Vinnie. Both of them are aliens (humans can't play like that!). They are so much different but they have similar technique. It's so awesome ^^
@Oneness100 Fine then, check out Vinnie playing with Jeff Beck recently. At the club in London is a really good one, you can see vids around. Also, him playing with Chick Corea and John Maclaughlin recently was amazing and some of the greatest fusion you'll see.
For what it's worth, Lars Ulrich can't hold a candle to this guy. That doesn't make Lars Ulrich a bad drummer. Vinnie is just the goods.
Get Karizma's album Document. Easily one of the most entertaining albums ever. And this song in particular, as if it wasn't fluid enough, sounds even better there!
Still, all the members shine here as they always manage to do! Killer performance!
Vinnie is Dirty Harry playing drums! Killing! Just saying'... ;-)
The best evere.....as usual :D ^_^
Here's the deal from my POV.. Vinnie is a great session player/sideman, that's his background. He can play lots of different styles and yeah, he has done some grooves that have made an impact (Sting Seven Days for example). What I am in conflict with is that some fans put Vinnie at the same level or higher than noted jazz/fusion legends which makes it sound like Vinnie is a better player than those with legendary recodings and awards from jazz mag. where Vinnie doesn't have. OK? Make Sense?
@Oneness100 Yay the Vinnie troll is back to continue his legacy! You are adorable! I think I speak on behalf of everybody who came to this video to marvel at superhuman drumming: we love our Vinnie troll!!! Life would not be the same without you. Please continue your amazing legacy and never let anybody's negative opinions keep you from doing what you believe in and what I believe is your sole purpose on Earth: which is being the Vinnie troll!
Go check out Vinnie on Ricky Peterson Night Watch (my nickname for the album is "sit back shut up and groove") just playing sick pocket with some occasional metric modulation. There's plenty of space. Please give the man his due. He can play as much or as little as he wants. He can be be a chops monster or a total pocket player. Gadd, Purdie, Porcaro give em all their due but please don't think Vinnie can't just lay down a grove forever if that's whats called for.
He may be busy, but that isn't saying that he is spitting out classic recordings.
I am still waiting for a listing of his classic recordings. the only ones that I can say are classic are more pop oriented rather than jazz/fusion oriented.
This band played at my cousins wedding. But nobody danced.
Dude, he did not get lost. Did you ever think there was just no bass written for that part. Why would he play through the whole song which has a lot more complex parts in terms of timing flawlessly and then get lost in a part like at 7:00. Vinnie's playing by himself there and you can clearly here the beginning of the beat. He definitley didn't get lost.
@skinnymoo Steve Gadd has played on more albums than any other drummer and is the most recorded of all time. Despite this i do agree with you, Vinnie is one of the best!!!
Who are the other musicians in this? Is that Mike Landau on guitar? I don't even have guesses for the others.
love vinnie's phrasing at 6:13
Thanks for setting us straight Scott...
Anyway...Gadd has certain qualities that make him one of the greats. Vinnie, Tony and Bernard Purdie all do or did too.
Isn't that what is great about music? There are alot of contributions from many places.
Holy shit..I never get tired of listening to Vinnie...he never sounds the same, and his technique, is, well....the best. I'm glad the keyboard player got rid of the corny earring and the pony tail by the way....
Neil Stubenhaus in at 01:25 !!! So tight that it is insane !!
Vinnie is an allien. But sometimes he makes someone lost in space and time. Like at 7:01. He is dangerous haha!!!
@Oneness100 Check out a CD by Allan Holdsworth called 'Secrets'
I am a Vinnie huge fan. However, the other musicians are just great. Let me mention Michael Landau -- on of the most creative guitar players around.
THE BEST!!! ANY DISAGREEMENT????
Where can i find this concert?Thanks in advance.
Respond to this video...
They're guessing at the time here trading 4's & 8's at the end of the song, I wouldn't call this performance 'at his best'.
A great example pros making it happen though.
I don't know the level of truthfullness, but there are a lot of pop recordings where the drummer isn't nailing the track and they edit the drum tracks to make them perfect. I haven't heard of any specifics, but I have heard that many, not all, of Vinnie's tracks are edited in post production. I've also seen videos on You Tube where Vinnie's time is fluctuating drastically. I'll dig some up and post the links to them.
You're a lucky guy then man! Vinnie playing with Jeff, with Tal Wilkenfeld back in 2008 is what I'm talking about. It's a great tour, I happened to catch one of the dates and if you can pick up the gig at Ronnie Scott's I'd advise. Clapton comes up and plays a couple of songs with him. So do Imogen Heap and Joss Stone.
But whatever, I think Vinnie's phrasing and unique, diverse approach to drumming is just the absolute top notch. Though I like all the other drummers you mention.
Keyboardist is the only one that can keep with vinnie
Vinnie says: In your face!
It is written in the partiture.
There are no mistakes.
Have you heard Document? Live at Ronnie's with jefff beck? or you think that classical is whet is selling more?
He played with Jeff Beck and Tal Wilkenfeld. Good stuff.
@Oneness100 Your comments are excruciating. Upload your own video. Add something to the world instead of trying to take something away. Or are you satisfied being the cynic? Destructiveness is laziness. Creativity is truth, honesty, bravery. Who are you to put Kyle, Megadeath or Billy Ray down, much less Vinnie? They're brave. They create. I've heard of them, I've never heard of you.
Level of creativity? Go to a Trilok Gurtu concert, check out the videos with him and Joe Zawinul and other concerts on UA-cam and catalog of recordings of his and with John McLaughlin. I don't know of anyone that has his level of creativity. The guy is from another solar system. Trilok bends time in such a unique way that is totally musical and not cliche.
Why would anybody invest so much energy in trying to prove Vinnie isn't that good...
Everybody seems to be an expert on youtube...
I'm going back to enjoy the great clip.
@italiarovinata Yep, he is the best and you showing everyone he plays for speaks for itself. Not to mention all the awards he has had so many awards. Everyone in the drumming community is aware of it. I first encountered him when he played for Joni. Also
I met Jaco and Pat. He is the world's best, I agree. Technically perfect.
@HamerD Can you be specific on what recordings, specific grooves, fills on specific jazz/fusion recordings that have been considered at Master Level that were original?
Titles are given by the industry. I don't make up the titles, it is just how the music industry describes different types of music. Just like being able to play a latin, funk, etc. Vinnie may be a great drummer, but I don't feel he has been on a classic recording in the genre commonly referred to as jazz/fusion. He may have played with many of the great artists, but I haven't heard a recording with him that I would listen to over and over and feel it was classic playing.