I am certain that the way a Montante is used is one of the ways a dane axe woud be used during the late viking age. And the way he is defending the bridge in this video is what I imagine the berserker during the battle of Stamford Bridge would hold back the anglo saxon army for the king Harald Hardrådes army to assemble.
This is amazing, Nicollo is a great guy and that was awesome to watch. It is a little bit like a Renaissance Reenactment of the Berserker of Stamford Bridge 😂
I did some montante vs sword and buckler sparring today. I used s&b. My opponents main issue was using sufficient power as they were being gracious. As is often the case with significant range mismatches, it became a game of range control, binding and rushing. Hopefully once my opponent gains familiarity and confidence, we can get a recording worth sharing.
Could you show the actual tests against committed opposition? They look like exhausting tests/exercises once taking shots and defending shots come online!
You can’t do it with steel. That spadone can bend masks and the head beneath if kept at the pace needed to clear the space around. You need soft simulators, padded stuff ecc
@@A_Moustached_Sock That's incorrect, to avoid concussions even against fully armored opponents you'd need to pull your strikes to a point where it wouldn't be an accurate historical recreation anymore.
@anitaremenarova6662 Which is like that with any polearm. No weapon can be used to its most realistic, fullest extent in HEMA as all strikes must be pulled to some extent to try to prevent injury depending on the safety gear worn. I have sparred full speed with montante, as has another youtuber, Dequitum. I have a second dedicated HEMA channel. I'll be uploading sparring with a steel montante as Im getting tired of people perpetuating this belief that you can not spar with a blunted steel greatsword that is meant for sparring. However, I do say in my comment to pull your strikes even with steel armor. To say that would make it historically inaccurate is something I agree with to an extent, but it's still worth exploring. Provided you have competent and experienced HEMA practitioners using the montante and experienced HEMA practitioners going up against it, understanding the limitations that have to be set forth, and respecting the weapon as though it were live. Results will not be as conclusive as if we were using a live one, I agree. But that's the same with any weapon in HEMA. It isn't so useless to the point that we should just give up and deem it too dangerous, or it'd be so inaccurate we shouldn't even bother. This is just my thoughts on this. Other people dont feel safe doing so or think its a waste of time that is their prerogative, and I'll disagree with it and continue to present the points Ive found in my own testing.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Which is like that with any polearm. No weapon can be used to its most realistic, fullest extent in HEMA as all strikes must be pulled to some extent to try to prevent injury depending on the safety gear worn. I have sparred full speed with montante, as has another youtuber, Dequitum. I have a second dedicated HEMA channel Ill be uploading sparring with a steel montante as Im getting tired of people perpetuating this belief that you cannot spar with a blunted steel greatsword that is meant for sparring. I do agree with your point, however that pulling your strikes with the weapon can result in the conclusions of the exercise being skewed or not as realistic as they could be as a weapon meant for training interacts differently than a live one. To properly conduct an experiment such as this you would need competent and experienced HEMA practitioners to efficiently pull strikes, but for the attackers to also give respect to the weapon as though it were live. Due to the very nature of being unable to do with this with a live weapon and have committed attackers, it will always have conclusions that are not accurate to historical recreation. I go a step further to say that a good majority of HEMA techniques (Certainly not all) are not quite accurate to historical recreation as a sharp weapon interacts differently with another sharp vs how blunts interact or even synthetics or padded weapons. I do not believe, however, that just because something will not be "accurate historical recreation" does not mean it has to be discarded. HEMA is a martial art, and like any martial art, things should be explored and pressure tested in a safe and controlled manner. Bottom line, all strikes in HEMA need to be pulled period regardless of the weapon and protection used. Apologies if this comment seems like its disjointed. I tried replying to you a few times on the mobile app but I have discovered a bug where it dehighlights the users name I want to reply to and they dont get notified. I had written this out several times on mobile but it wouldnt notify you as well as wouldnt show my own comment I wrote out.
Filippo Vadi diceva che lo spadone è ideale quando su è da soli contro tanti avversari, "come una grande nave contro tante piccole galee" io lo prediligo su tutte come arma.
What about the first attacker trying to block the sword, while the others closing the distance? But of course it's better to have a spear to deal with such a beast)
This is a montante, they were smaller than the famous landsknecht doppelhanders (now more widely known as zweihanders) so I'm guessing around 68-70 inches or 175cm.
These types of swords were also often used as bodyguard weapons so the demonstration for enemies surrounding the wielder from both sides are on point too.
If you are asking Yourself: The Music I added now is from the UA-cam list itself, so it doesn't risk any scam.
I am certain that the way a Montante is used is one of the ways a dane axe woud be used during the late viking age. And the way he is defending the bridge in this video is what I imagine the berserker during the battle of Stamford Bridge would hold back the anglo saxon army for the king Harald Hardrådes army to assemble.
Ok, I knew you had a nerd hidden somewhere in there, but I wasn't expecting a warhammer 40k fan.
Praise.
Hehehe ;-)
I had to triple check that I had clicked on the right video since I have so much 40k in my feed 😂
@@Mustard_sock ahahahahahah. Me too
Didn't expect so see a 40K reference here. Great video. The Emperor protects.
Love the testing on the bridge!
This is amazing, Nicollo is a great guy and that was awesome to watch. It is a little bit like a Renaissance Reenactment of the Berserker of Stamford Bridge 😂
I did some montante vs sword and buckler sparring today. I used s&b. My opponents main issue was using sufficient power as they were being gracious. As is often the case with significant range mismatches, it became a game of range control, binding and rushing. Hopefully once my opponent gains familiarity and confidence, we can get a recording worth sharing.
"being gracious" is such a funny way of putting it 🤣
I do not envy the guy who gets walloped by a full speed montante flourish in sparring
Great video guy you got this.
It was great to watch that video again, very informative. Sorry it is under such bad circumstances. Keep up the excellent work.
Thank you!
Look up Diego García de Paredes at the Garigliano River bridge.
Too much fun is being had on that bridge!
Ahahahahahah! True
I wish we could map the bridge the fighters and the excellent choreography and animate a SOS with Bloodletters.
Glad to see this one saved, it's a fun one!
Thanks!!!
Always an awesome video!
Could you show the actual tests against committed opposition? They look like exhausting tests/exercises once taking shots and defending shots come online!
You can’t do it with steel. That spadone can bend masks and the head beneath if kept at the pace needed to clear the space around.
You need soft simulators, padded stuff ecc
@@A_Moustached_Sock That's incorrect, to avoid concussions even against fully armored opponents you'd need to pull your strikes to a point where it wouldn't be an accurate historical recreation anymore.
@anitaremenarova6662 Which is like that with any polearm. No weapon can be used to its most realistic, fullest extent in HEMA as all strikes must be pulled to some extent to try to prevent injury depending on the safety gear worn. I have sparred full speed with montante, as has another youtuber, Dequitum. I have a second dedicated HEMA channel. I'll be uploading sparring with a steel montante as Im getting tired of people perpetuating this belief that you can not spar with a blunted steel greatsword that is meant for sparring.
However, I do say in my comment to pull your strikes even with steel armor. To say that would make it historically inaccurate is something I agree with to an extent, but it's still worth exploring. Provided you have competent and experienced HEMA practitioners using the montante and experienced HEMA practitioners going up against it, understanding the limitations that have to be set forth, and respecting the weapon as though it were live.
Results will not be as conclusive as if we were using a live one, I agree. But that's the same with any weapon in HEMA. It isn't so useless to the point that we should just give up and deem it too dangerous, or it'd be so inaccurate we shouldn't even bother.
This is just my thoughts on this. Other people dont feel safe doing so or think its a waste of time that is their prerogative, and I'll disagree with it and continue to present the points Ive found in my own testing.
@@anitaremenarova6662 My reply is below theres a bug on mobile that dehighlights the user Im replying to name
@@anitaremenarova6662
Which is like that with any polearm. No weapon can be used to its most realistic, fullest extent in HEMA as all strikes must be pulled to some extent to try to prevent injury depending on the safety gear worn. I have sparred full speed with montante, as has another youtuber, Dequitum. I have a second dedicated HEMA channel Ill be uploading sparring with a steel montante as Im getting tired of people perpetuating this belief that you cannot spar with a blunted steel greatsword that is meant for sparring.
I do agree with your point, however that pulling your strikes with the weapon can result in the conclusions of the exercise being skewed or not as realistic as they could be as a weapon meant for training interacts differently than a live one. To properly conduct an experiment such as this you would need competent and experienced HEMA practitioners to efficiently pull strikes, but for the attackers to also give respect to the weapon as though it were live. Due to the very nature of being unable to do with this with a live weapon and have committed attackers, it will always have conclusions that are not accurate to historical recreation.
I go a step further to say that a good majority of HEMA techniques (Certainly not all) are not quite accurate to historical recreation as a sharp weapon interacts differently with another sharp vs how blunts interact or even synthetics or padded weapons.
I do not believe, however, that just because something will not be "accurate historical recreation" does not mean it has to be discarded. HEMA is a martial art, and like any martial art, things should be explored and pressure tested in a safe and controlled manner.
Bottom line, all strikes in HEMA need to be pulled period regardless of the weapon and protection used.
Apologies if this comment seems like its disjointed. I tried replying to you a few times on the mobile app but I have discovered a bug where it dehighlights the users name I want to reply to and they dont get notified. I had written this out several times on mobile but it wouldnt notify you as well as wouldnt show my own comment I wrote out.
Thanks for the video! What is the music which starts at 01:08
I need to know or I die😢
What caused the video to get copyrighted???
I explained it both in a video two weeks ago and in a Post in the community section. Check one of them out ;-)
Theres scammers that will claim on any song and its yp to the owner to refute not the claimer.
Its a massive issue across youtube
The Emperor protects, brother
Filippo Vadi diceva che lo spadone è ideale quando su è da soli contro tanti avversari, "come una grande nave contro tante piccole galee" io lo prediligo su tutte come arma.
"Run away ! Run away !!!"
What about the first attacker trying to block the sword, while the others closing the distance? But of course it's better to have a spear to deal with such a beast)
Not with a 1h sword. I tried and it doesn't work. Maybe with a shield and there are techniques explicitly against shields
How tall is zwiehander?
This is a montante, they were smaller than the famous landsknecht doppelhanders (now more widely known as zweihanders) so I'm guessing around 68-70 inches or 175cm.
If there are enemies on both sides of the bridge, it is already lost.
True!
These types of swords were also often used as bodyguard weapons so the demonstration for enemies surrounding the wielder from both sides are on point too.
Please put a mask on, my friend! In all seriousness, great video. Beautiful scenery!
Believe me he risked lesser than 0. Even if we wanted to go in, we couldn’t. It was too risky while wearing the mask.
Have a thumb sir