Why Nancy Sinatra Couldn’t Compete with Ava Gardner?
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📍 Frank and Nancy met in 1934 in New Jersey. Frank 19 Nancy was 17 years old.
They got engaged almost immediately but in the years that followed they didn't really see each other as Sinatra worked non-stop.
When Nancy realized that Frank had cheated on her with another woman, she wanted to end their relationship, but she vowed that there would be no more. Nancy forgave him and married him. In September 1950, a restraining order was issued against Nancy, beating actress Ava Gardner, who was later married to Frank.
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I would rather never marry then be married to a man who constantly plays the field.
But it’s Frank Sinatra so.......
I agree!!!!! It's not worth it. Fame doesn't exempt these men from being faithful. These celebs need to just not marry. They don't respect the sanctity of it.
My first husband cheated on me on our honeymoon. It went downhill from there.
@@mchapman132 Wow I am so sorry.
@@sylviaking8866 - me too. Lol
"Her dignity was indestructible." Good for her. She had nothing to be ashamed of and I'm glad she lived a long life! Especially outliving her unfaithful husband.
Barbara, are you talking about Ava or Nancy? Ava died when she was 67 or 68. Frank Sinatra lived until his 80's.
What are you talking about? 🤔
@@sylviacarlson3561 Nancy. She died at 101 in 2018
@@oceanhedonist265 I'm using a quote from the video about Nancy Sinatra.
The one who doesn't end up with the man isn't always the loser.
Wise words!
Amen!!!!
Preach!
its not worth it lmao, let other people deal with the stress.
Debbie Reynolds
Because she was a responsible woman and Ava wasn't exactly wife material. However Frank wasn't exactly husband material. Awm
Two trashy people who deserved each bother. I feel for Nancy, she could have done so much better.
Amen. Sums it up perfectly
Ihatedayslikethis1 ,people do always, he has done good things too. Awm
He married her before he got famous, and she was a drag on that! Most people who come from nothing to be as famous as Frank.....is not surprising they ' move on'! Can't blame them!
She was no ' show business' type.....she would be a load. Too bad....but, he did a lot for her all his life.
Ruby , he was famous even in the early 40s as a matinee type singing idol. Awm
Sinatra was a FIRST CLASS PUTZ!!!! Ava Gardner COULDN'T COMPETE with Nancy!!!! She had morals, was a GREAT MOM, and worked hard!!!! My heart goes out to her!!!!
Nancy really was an attractive woman. She seemed like a smart woman too. I think its possible that if Frank was just an ordinary working stiff and not a celebrity they might have stayed together like other average couples. But the temptation and love of women got to him. He probably got married too young and didnt sew his wild oats. Some men never settle down. She said she didnt want him anymore , she couldnt deal with his affairs . Some men like to stay with their wives and have their "cake and eat it too." Maybe he would have liked that. But Nancy was too hurt. You cant blame her.
THE WHOLE FAMILY WERE PATIENTS OF MINE, THEY WERE SO NICE, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TYPE PEOPLE
I agree, Ms. Nancy was beautiful too, I wish she could have had the Hollywood glam squad, not to look like Ms. Gardner, but to be fair. Ava Gardner and Frank Sinatra deserved each other. Ms. Gardner broke Frank's heart, like he broke Nancy's. "Goody goody! Hurray and halleluia you had it coming to ya!"
So many women want to be a bride.Few women know how to be a WIFE.Nancy Barbato Sinatra was exemplary.
Nancy Sinatra (daughter) spoke very highly of Ava Gardner and had a good relationship with Ava her entire life. Maybe watch the Nancy Sinatra (JR) interviews, you may look at Ava much differently as I did.
What a lovely woman! Mrs. Nancy Sinatra held her head high and focused on the love for her family, including Frank. A class act!
Yes, she was a classy sophisticated lady. 🌹
I agree
A women with respect and class till the end. 🙏 RIP
A Class act....yes. She knew what was important.
She seemed strong too. Some people would think her weak for staying with him and putting up with that. But I think it's the opposite. It takes a strong woman to deal with all that and keep going and not give up on him or the marriage. She really tried. She gave it more than I could.
I have no empathy or respect for homewreckers. The level of pain being inflicted on the person being cheated on is hideous.
@Sylvia King. Pray for the them because God knows people in this world are very broken hun, some much more than others. God bless.🙏
I have no empathy for martirs.
Between the vows to another person and our own dignity, I believe we shoudn't romanticized the eternal love and have a little more of self-conscious and self-love.
There is no love for another if we dont love ourselves.
Do you mean Frank, as he is the one who broke up the home?
It hurts, an immeasurable pain that never goes.
Cheating can also be very dangerous and fatal. But the guilt is not of love... love happends and its beautiful when is so heart felt. Nor the homebreaker's exclusive fault. The end that is married... Frank I mean. If they agree he can sleep around is one thing but exchanging vows of exclusive love and then have others but still return to the major one because of her cooking habilities is not right.
So the married man is a womaniser and a cheater, but the title focuses only on the idea of a supposed rivalry and comparison on two women...
You clicked!!
You understood the assignment.
@@krystallovesclassics508 no. She didn't.
Because it DID become a competition. Duh.
One woman wasn't enough for Frank! 😜
It is sad that she never remarried and always did let him come back to her whenever he wanted and it suited him. To be honest...I do not think this to be so praiseworthy. Not at all.
That's how women were raised back then.
@@americanwoman445 I believe, that was true devotion. She took her marriage vows with her to the end.
I think that's how they were raised, your identity was wrapped up and validated via your husband.....
The thing is, their children must have absolutely loved it. Nancy's self respect didn't depend on Frank's behavior. She chose to be a good mother and good person regardless of Frank's character flaws. It has taken me a long time to see how much strength, self respect and discipline this takes. Each case of divorce is different and this arrangement would be improper in some cases but in this case, it seems good. Nancy won - kept her head above the fray. That means her children won too.
@@danacaro-herman3530 Well he had already broken their marriage vows. So why should she keep them?
Nancy Barbato was an elegant classy LADY!! So so sad how she was treated and discarded like she was an old shoe.
Yes, but she rose above it and her reputation was always very good. Classy, indeed! I don’t think she ever gave up hoping that Frank would return to her but, instead, he married Barbara. 😬 I wish that he had gone back to Nancy.
A plain Jane if there ever was one! Hehehe
Nancy was loved
Never thrown away
Frank made sure she was taken care of.
@@doniellestenson3502 well at one point he anulled their marriage and made their three children illegitimate (in Catholic Church terms) without even telling her or the kids so no, he wasn’t always kind or taking care of her.
I've never understood what any woman saw in Frank Sinatra. Other than his voice he just came across as a mean person without humor or personality to offset that meanness. Now, Dean Martin on the other hand had great looks, humor and personality and his voice was icing on the cake.
"He came across" was used appropriately because those who were close to him knew him as a very caring and generous man. He willingly helped people who he didn't even know who experienced hardships, financial and otherwise and he was a philanthropist. He never wanted it publicized because he wasn't doing it for publicity like many other famous people do. After his death it was disclosed.
Janet Claire Burke
Now, let's not get started on Dean Martin! His behavior was in the same category as Frank Sinatra!
I thought Frank was better looking after he got older even at 80. Liked his fuller looking face. Dean Martin was handsome but I couldn't like him because of his drinking. Some said he only faked looking drunk. Even if he faked it it doesn't make him appealing at all. Just never could respect him even if he did look good and sing well.
@@beverlymccollum8861 I read in a Dean Martin biography that the "drinking" was a schtick. He wasn't the big drinker his stage character depicted. In fact, he was a bit of a homebody who liked to stay in and eat his dinner on a tray in front of the tv! I agree about Sinatra becoming better looking with age.
Did you ever read about how Dean Martin treated his wife? An eye opener....
Nancy was the epitome of a beautiful loving wife and mother.R.I.P. Nancy.
I thought Nancy was stunningly beautiful inside and out. What an amazing women and mother. The kids were truly blessed and they know it.
All three of them truly loved their mother. Nancy lived to be over 100. Rest In Peace, Nancy - a lot of people appreciated and admired you.
@@ilanamillion8942 What a lovely tribute Ilana, I'm sure she's with Our Merciful Savior.🙏
I agree, Mr. Sinatra said he would never have left his wife if he had to do it all over again. Eva lost . Hollywood makes stars blind to reality.
Ava was one the most beautiful woman ever.
Nancy Sinatra: Stunningly Homely I would say!
Frank should have stayed with Nancy. It is the eternal trap of successful men. They begin to think they deserve better than the best. They don't realize what they already have.
It is not only a woman 's beauty to make a happy family.
Also, Ava herself said she wished that she never went to Hollywood, but stayed in North Carolina, got married and had a bunch of kids.
I guess she would have been a lot happier this way.
She could have left Hollywood if she wanted to
@@Kofferkoala Ava enjoyed life. With that Great Beauty? Impossible!
Riiight.
@@loribernardisunwell9663 She did she went to Spain but directors chased her over there and she finally moved to London. She left Hollywood and all the wolves, back years before her screen life ended. She was done with the paparazzi'.
Nancy Barbato Sinatra was a strong woman of impeccable character. Even though Frank broke her heart she maintained her dignity and carried on as a dedicated and devoted mother. She made amends with Frank and they maintained a friendship which I am sure made the children happy. What more can you ask for in a woman. I think she did the right thing by not becoming bitter and miserable. I just wish she had met somebody else who would have loved her and she would have loved him,and he would have appreciated all she had to offer. I think she was happy though and that's what really matters
At that time the Catholic church wouldn't have smiled on remarriage for her or him. I don't think he cared. Her reputation would have been destroyed. She wzs looking after her daughter's futures especially but Frank Jr. too.
@@denicesanders4586 - divorce and remarriage is permitted with an Annulment. I’m Catholic, first marriage annulled and I remarried in the church.
It’s not easy to obtain, it took 19 months, but it was worth it.
Bit old fashioned.. theres more to women than just being a good wife and mother
@@janestub Yes, but we are talking about a marriage that took place in 1939 and standards for women were different than now. That's what prompted the woman's movement. Nancy did have an active social life but she didn't meet another man. She had it all together.
@@janestub - that’s part of the problem. A woman can have a good, fulfilling life as a homemaker and mother and be very proud of it. Children do better with stability, coming home from school and mom home, not walking into an empty house. Dinner at a regular time, two parents. It may sound corny, but it’s healthy. I was raised like that. My children were 10, 2 and 1 when I got divorced, and I had to go back to work. I had a good career, but I missed much of their ‘firsts’. That’s the biggest regret of my life......I can never get those years back of their childhood.
Nancy Sinatra did it right. She stayed true to her values even with a philanderer husband.
Ava was absolutely ravishing, a truly stunning woman. If she wanted your husband - he was gone. Nancy was a beautiful woman herself and managed to keep her self respect, dignity and happiness in spite of Frank's horrible behavior. Nancy refused to be bitter and angry. She chose to live a good life, loving her children, family, friends and even Frank. Ava never found happiness and seems to have drunk herself to death.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder---is the old saying, and still remains true! As for myself, I never thought Ava Gardner was all that beautiful, but, to each his own!!!
@@jayonnaj18 I'm guessing you are a woman. lol. Maybe you should take another look at Ava in her prime.
@@paulascott5701 What does being a woman have to do with finding Ava Gardner beautiful or not? From your name I gather you are a woman yourself, yet you sing Ava's praises. Personally, I believe that Frank Sinatra would've cheated with anyone, no matter how beautiful or ugly the woman would have been. Ava Gardner was just present in the right place, at the right time. As for my personal taste in women: give me voluptuous, busty beauties like Anita Ekberg and Liz Taylor any day over beanstalky Ava Gardner.
@@margueritenoiris9355 You miss my point entirely. Frank ran around on every woman he ever dated or married. Getting him to bed seems to have been easy. Getting him to leave Nancy and their 3 children was not easy. It took Ava years - she was stunning when Frank took up with her. When a woman like that comes after your husband, you can tell him goodbye. I promise.
I find Nancy as pretty as Ava.
Nancy Sinatra shouldn't have had to compete Ava Gardner. Ava should have had better rearing, and been taught to respect marriage vows.
Oh yes, Nancy's brother or dad should have beaten up Frank.
This video should have been titled "Why Ava Gardner couldn't compete with Nancy Sinatra." What a saint of a woman.
Oh please. No one is ' a saint '! . She was an average broad who couldn't accept reality!
@@Melinda8162 Franck Sinatra was average two.
@@lindachamuel5098 *too
@@Melinda8162 agree. Ppl want to martyr Nancy just because Frank left her. They did the same to Debbie Reynolds.
@@trawlins396 👍. 🤣 😂
Good family woman, decent human being, deserves a medal even though I loved his music he hurt her terribly
I think Frank was a complete ego maniac and had several affairs on his poor wife so how is it her fault.
Stop whining. No one said it was Nancy's fault. You have no idea what Frank was so hush. .
Gardner doesn’t like to be treated the way she treated others. If Frank cheats on Nancy to be with her why is she surprised he cheated on her? I knew that when I was17, a cheater is a liar; if they cheat on the wife what makes you think they’re not going to cheat on you?
Because Ava had been around, because she was new, because she didn’t need a man so was aloof unless she decided otherwise, because Nancy was a normal decent homemaker and mother who basically loved and needed him, and wanted to love and take care of the kids. He knew Nancy would put the kids first if he wasn’t around and used her as a emotionally crutch all his life until the end.
Nancy knew exactly who she was marrying, she allowed herself to be treated in such a disrespectful way, I wish she would've known her worth, she was beautiful person.
How would she know that her husband would cheat? What woman knows that?
Kim - As my mother used to say - "You NEVER know a man until you live with him!" She was a VERY WISE WOMAN!!!!
That much is true, but yet and still he had no right to do what he did to her. She could have done MUCH better with someone else. Rest easy "REAL" Mrs. Sinatra
@@mjohnson1741 because he was already having other sexual relationships before they married which she knew about and he already had a reputation as a womaniser.
@m Johnson - the narrator in the video literally said she knew he was a womanizer before they were married. I mean... what more did she need?
Ava was wild.Nancy was a nice Italian girl.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
Sinatra sold his soul to the devil. Abandoning his wife was the first act. The lure of glitter and glam, fame and fortune has been the ruin of many. He was never happy and that's why he drank; he said he couldn't stand being sober. Stayed drunk to block out God. He got his way, he's now permanently in a place without God.
💯💯💯
Wow. You’re gross. Wishing someone a place in hell? Get help.
What a shame.
That is Just SO NOT TRUE! ASSUME. You Make an A-S-S-U-M-E. Stop Judging!
You Know So Little and Yet you Damn him to Hell?
Imagine if your wrong? What awaits You ?
i am sure your a nice person but stop Damning people to hell.
God already has a judge and it is not you nor I , so give it a rest
He used to sleep with Nancy in between marriages - their daughter Tina said so. Nancy still considered him her husband.
I've got to agree, until death do them part.
Moral of the story
Marry for money
Invest in the kids
Live without caring about the dude
Die happy
I agree 100%
i agree almost completely. adding in they were poor and teenagers when they married. so nancy got screwed and still maintained dignity. if there is a "saint" she was.
That's a depressing philosophy. But most wives of rich men do just that.
If I had my way I would have flamed out beautiful and died young rather than betrodden with illness and looking like a crone, nobody wants to go out this way. We all want to go when we've done our best but the world has other plans, we are meant to stay for our own learning or to help others. I'm stuck helping others, I would rather just go. I am ill enough to just go now but God has a different plan. You get stuck on the people you have chemistry with but true love is day to day dealing with good and bad issues and still going forward despite whatever happened in the past.
Wow Nancy Snr living until 101 amazing, my mother is 93 I am 62, god bless Nancy, I felt sad when the daughter said she often heard her sobbing, god bless her 💕♥️🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️💖
She knew what he was before she married him. Like, they say " love is blind".
Sinatra was a narcissist. They do not disclose themselves so I doubt Nancy really knew what she was marrying.
Nancy Sinatra a classic strong enabler and the relationship was fraught with toxic codependency. Frank/Ava were classic narcissists.
It's not like she was the only one he was cheating with. He cheated on Nancy alot
Nancy was absolutely stunning 🤩 he was a fool. God Bless this precious beautiful lady. She’s in Gods hands know and truly loved 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️🥲
@Geraldine Modica. Amen!! I believe so too Geraldine.🙏
Oh stop lying ffs.. She was just average.
@@trawlins396 So what?? Can't anyone have a good life just because he/she is average??!
Nancy settled lolll well she had the last laugh
Nancy handled this whole situation very dignifiedly.
@@ageofvintage2106 I'm glad she had a long life
Sinatra was a total bum !
I wish she had re married and had been happy.
What was tragic is that Frank applied for an annulment from the Church to marry Barbara Marx in the Catholic Church. That must have broken her heart. She had 3 kids for crying out loud.
@@GiftSparksHe didn't marry Barbara Marx until 1976. If Frank and Nancy Sr. were going to going to patch things up they had time. He also squeezed in that ill-fated marriage with Mia and also was engaged to Lauren Bacall before that.
@@GypsyFairy85 I think she could deal with the fact that they were divorced. But getting an annulment is different. It's saying that the marriage was never valid to begin with. That is what was upsetting. They were married and had had 3 kids. He should have had respect for that and not gotten the annulment.
She (Nancy) carried him on her back, and he repaid her by public humiliation. Nice.
I'm African-American and I love me some Frank Sinatra. I'm sorry y'all, but his first wife Nancy was so stunningly Gorgeous!
Frank Sinatra is my favorite singer! Great taste in music my friend! 💙
Wth does being African-American have to do wit anything?
Yes she was pretty.
@@doriangray2020 exactly. I can't stand when ppl say that as if it's relevant. A LOT of blk ppl loved Frank..
Nobody cares what race you are. You aren't the only AA person that loved Frank. EVERYONE in America did at one point.
Ppl say Gardner is so beautiful, and I could never see it. I only saw her as an attractive older woman. Then I saw her screen test. Her accent was so thick, they did it as a silent short and wow. Incredible beauty.
I HAVE TO AGREE
@@siegridthomas9674 Ava was gorgeous...
Avas was one of the most beautiful women of the planet , without make up and without sleep , you can say whatever but you can’t deny facts
it's only some women who discredit her beauty, but the truth is she was beautiful. I've only seen her in barefoot contessa and damn in that scene when she steps up in a white gown before her statue...I was in awe of how gorgeous that woman was
Nancy was such a great example of feminine dignity. You can’t control or predict what a man does. But you can control how you react. Being bitter and vengeful is understandable and even fun, but it’s best not to let anything pull you out of character. You can regret the situation, but there’s nothing to regret about staying classy. Many people internalize the shameful things others do to them. But Nancy kept her pride throughout everything and never wanted pity. It’s so admirable and rare. Frank should’ve never left her. 😒
Well said!
@@tanyamoretz Let's just agree to disagree.
He really threw away gold. Ava did seem like a nice person. It is sad Nancy Sr., never remarried. She was a catch.
I think it’s admirable whether they’re a woman or not. This is so old fashioned- how women are supposed to be ladylike and composed at all times-men’s rage is accepted and sadly expected. It’s built into our culture.
@@lindseyl5842 Yeah, I agree. I didn't mean to sound old-fashioned. For me, what makes people like Nancy more worthy of admiration is that they don't allow other people to embarrass them. Their divorce will always be known as a loss for Frank, and that's mostly due to how dignified Nancy was before and after all the scandals. I'm definitely not saying that I, in any way, accept or expect Frank's impulsive immaturity in his marriage. I'm just pointing out that Nancy could have easily sold secrets and tabloids to get revenge on him and Ava for hurting her family. But she chose not to. She walked away with her pride, despite a humiliating and powerless marriage. She kept control of herself and her perception, even when she couldn't control anything else. I don't know how I would do that without becoming a train wreck.
Nancy was to nice for Frank!
Nancy had class, Ava just had beauty.
You can say that again!! AGREED!!
They married in the church of
Our Lady of Sorrows..well that should have warned her of her future with Frank.
Australia 😢😢
Well, actually she could. The marriage between Frank and Ava was turbulend and short lived. She aborted his baby. Nancy on the other hand gave him three children and many happy moments. Frank's bahaviour after the divorce indicated that he still loved her and wanted to be a part in her life, altought she didn't take him back. Such an unfaithfull husband can be a source of misery, but Nancy managed to be happy without him. In the end she had the last laught.
Yeah I guess He was paying for the roof over her & their children & the rest so he felt "entitled" to turn up when he felt like it 🤔
So in some ways she could not properly move on with her life & I don't mean just to meet someone etc of course he should see his children as much as possible but the fact he discussed his later relationships with her
Really?? Boy BYE💯 👋🤎🤎🤎🙏
@@debbiebarrow7557 perhabs she felt "entitled" to keep beeing cared for financielly after all he did to her? I can imagine that this made him have false hopes, so she had a certain power over him.
A totally remarkable and classy woman. May she RIP.
Oh so it was OK for Ava taking a husband. But when it happened to her she stamped her feet. SMH
Pretty little brat used to getting what she wants but not much more
Karma
She was a bit hypocritical considering she was already cheating on Frank too.
Shame on Frank
AND Ava.
Never settle, ladies!
Narcissistic men are like narcissistic women constantly needing to prove they can have anything they desire. But underneath all that false bravado lies a scared little boy who thinks he won't be loved or worshipped anymore. How tragically sad because in the end it wasn't as important as he thought it would be. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Living in the New York area and being in and around show business a lot of my life I always heard that this woman was exceptional.And she was. I think it’s fantastic that her children great respect for her and that she lives so long and host a dinner for them and all their friends so often. That really says a lot for all of them.
This is VERY simple: Sinatra was married but he saw a hot actress he would’ve never been with had he not been famous. He was clearly thinkin with his johnson. All of his morals, values went out the door. Lots of people done it. Its not right, but it happens. Ava has gone on record in sayin they had an “incredible sex life”
She aborted his baby. He bought her a mink coat with her own credit card. Yuck!
@@nadyarossi5102 There’s some things they did, if they had the internet in those days, they couldn’t leave their house. Ha. I wasn’t an Ava fan anyway. She looked too high maintenance. It really didn’t work cuz they were too much alike. Strong willed, hard headed, moody personalities.
@@nadyarossi5102 and?
@@nadyarossi5102 you just wanted to spread gossip.
@@trawlins396 You have a good day.
Nancy Sinatra lived to 101 ... even outlived Barbara Marx Sinatra !!
Probably cos she was single most of her adult life!
She sure deserved to live all those beautiful years
Wow, Old Blue Eyes did get around didn't he, certainty had his share of beautiful woman. Not sure how happy this made him as he ended up an old grumpy drunk in the end although he voice was amazing a true singer. Some should of told him the grass is greener on the other side of the hill, it's just harder to chew! I felt sorry for Nancy, sounded like a hard working mother and wife something that was rare in that game. Thank you really learnt a lot about Frank but not all that surprised, that spreadsheet is now getting out of control. Cheers Brenton.
Mrs Sinatra is a beautiful woman that deserves respect! She put her children 1st! Look how well they turned out. She looked so happy 😊!
I think Ava looked much older than her contemporaries in Hollywood. She was stunning but always looked a decade older. Probably the alcohol.
That wasn't really the case until she hit her mid 30s. But, yes, she admitted the booze (and smoking) hurt her looks. She believed she could have stayed a major sex symbol for an extra 10 years or so if she hadn't lived so hard. I agree. She was still beautiful in her 50s but it was a more matronly sort.
She definitely looked way too old for her years.
Tremendous respect for Nancy Sr.
I heard a woman say that after the JFK Assination America lost its innocence and you only need to watch these to see how true that saying is
EVERYONE has said that. That is far from an original thought. It was true.
Nancy Sinatra Died: July 13, 2018 at age 101. Perhaps the best revenge is living well?
I never understood the fuss over Sinatra. There was ABSOLUTELY nothing attractive about him
You clearly don't understand how sex appeal works. It has nothing to do w looks. Ava said he "oozed sexuality". He was sexy in his prime because he had that certain "swag".
Tha k you.This was a lovely and informative video.I had always admired Nancy, she had dignity, and class.
No one could compete with Ava Gardner
I just don't get it. Ava was not "all that!" But, Frank was sure smitten.
@@nadyarossi5102 I think you have to be a man to get it😏
@@nicholasschroeder3678 C'mon, Nicholas. Not all men are dogs! There are men with moral convictions, that love their wives, children, families and can resist temptation.
@@nadyarossi5102 I'd like to think I'm one of the better ones. But if Ava came a knocking....I just don't know....😏
@@nicholasschroeder3678 Tsk tsk! :-)
When Scorsese is going to make that damn biopic on him ?! Since the time he talks about it... It won’t be easy to find the right actor portraying him though. He was a larger than life character !
Well, they could ask Frank's son Ronan Farrow, I mean "alleged" son.
@@mjohnson1741 lol, it's true that he strangely looklikes him but Can he act ?! 🤔 I found him a bit effeminate (frank was virile) and then he's not an actor at the base, he's a journalist. Idk 😒.
Frank that pip squeak is possible. But. They can never find a woman as beautiful as his 2nd Wife
@@fareedmalik6777 It doesn't really matter. It's about the portrayal. A convincing acting.There's a lot of good biopics where the actor doesn't looklike this real person. But the result is good. Katherine Beckinsale played Ava in Aviator, it was fine.
@@lindseycarribean5113 Really? I would have accepted a younger Monica Bellucci. Beckinsale did not have the body nor face but also the allure and presence. Kate said in an interview that ‘on every page of the written script said Ava was the most beautiful woman on earth which was unnerving and how do you play that?’ At that time everyone I know felt Beckinsale was disappointing
She let herself be a doormat for a man who wasn't worth her time after he cheated so blatantly. That's not holding your head up high in my book. Sure its best not to be bitter but no way would I still cook for him and do the 'wifey chores' and then watch him skip off again. Personally and I'm not trying to be mean but his look never appealed to me. I see a scrawny not very good looking man. His asset was not his appearance but his voice (to some find it ok) and his subsequent pocketbook.
I agree with everything you said
I agree! No one should ever be a doormat man or woman. I wouldn't be Ava Gardner for anything, what an empty wasted life.
I WILL say this, to ME Frank was ridiculously handsome (BUT THAT'S ME THOUGH). However, great looks is NOT enough to hold a marriage. I DO see what you are saying though because, had his behavior been much better he would not seem too bad to you. The inside is what matters most. Then again, I STILL agree with you
You are forgetting that Nacy was raised in a much different time. She lived her faith and Church teachings. I think there is much to learn from her life: loyalty, dignity and commitment.
Nancy was the only wife recognized by the Church.
Don't forget that marriage was completely dissolved in the eyes of the church so that Frank's marriage to Barbara would be recognized.
Not true. Frank, Barbara Marx & their attorney paid off the Catholic Church to obtain an annulment for Frank (from Nancy Sr.) Nancy was doubly betrayed!
Catholic Church is IMMORTAL. HOW DO YOU DISSOLVE A MARRIAGE AFTER 35 YRS AND 3 CHILDREN LATER?
Ava Gardner was quite a looker -- that woman would be hard to resist!
Frank Sinatra's wife was a saint 'cuz I don't think I could do that one! 😬
That would be a very poor excuse to cheat zelda. Becuz marriage is not just physical attraction.
Ava was extremely beautiful. I'll have to say I wouldn't mind looking like her. However, Nancy wasn't bad looking at all.
@@janejones7638Ava Gardener was absolutely gorgeous. Nancy was actually very pretty. Ava was the firecracker and Nancy was the stable one.
@@thegem597 What if I tell you I don't believe in marriage! 🤔 How about that, get off your high horse girl?!🤭 People doing some terrible, awful, disgusting, hideous, things in the name of marriage.😑
@@janejones7638 Nancy was a good looking woman too she got Frank Sinatra. 🙂
Absolutely nobody could even dream to compete with Ava
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Never thought she was much to look at personally
Even Liz Taylor said she was more beautiful than herself. When Night of the Iguan was shot, Liz stuck to Richard Burton like glue for fear he would succumb to Ava. Hemingway adored Ava.
I mean no one could compete with Ava Gardner like she was INSANELY beautiful. The stories from people who knew her said she the pictures and movies didn't do her justice
????? She wasnt that beautiful
@@ertfgghhhh neither are you
@@crimsonclover3643 u tried it, lol
@@ertfgghhhh jkjkjkjk, She was beautiful for that decades beauty standards (and even todays tbh) but lke I said, the pictures and movies didn't do her justice
I don't care how beautiful someone is. He made vows and broke them. If he wanted to fark around, he shouldn't have been married, or he should have left the marriage before getting in anybody else's pants. Both he and Gardner had no morals, only id.
Your narration is excellent: very well=done and not boring.
Have you done a video on Larry Olivier and Vivien and also Liz & Dick ? I don’t remember. This is the trio of crazy love for sure ! Oh I forgot Callas & Onassis.
I read Gardner's Biography. She was lovely looking but but not too smart. Hooks up with Mickey Rooney ...and he cheats on her. Hooks up with the horn player who treated her like an uneducated fool...and finally "gee, maybe another famous man will give me a good marriage especially if we drink a lot...yup!" Later George C. Scott beat the crap out of her. No wonder she died fairly young. Sad.
I actually prefer Nancy to the "Stars". She's so solid and beautiful. Less drama and more pure Love.
Geeze What Nancy senior had to put up with .. She Had the Patience of an Angel ...
Frank and Ava were reckless selfish people .... God Bless Nancy Snr .
I totally agree with you ruby jean ruby jean.
Tittle should be: "Why Frank Sinatra couldn't keep a woman." Stop blaming the women. He made the vow and he broke it.
I mean who could compete with Ava Gardner? She was stunning! Face & body!
11:52 I remember reading that Nancy was hiding her pregnancy (with Nancy Jr.) with that strategically placed hat.
Ladies....observe the life and morals of Nancy Sinatra....because this is how it's done! A true class act!!
A beautiful tribute to an amazing woman! Frank and Ava don't hold a candle to Nancy, Sr!!!
Frank thought with his salami too often
My dad's sister, could have and was a time or 2,mistaken for Ava Gardner. Until sbout the age of 5 or so, i thought she was Ava, and just stayed in town between pictures . She also led a tumultuous life. Ava was one of the best and most amazing actresses in the Business. It's a shame she didn't find any escape from the drama in her life both on the screen her in her private life.
Yeah ok. Sure. 👌
Ava Gardner was a sweet woman who was sorely treated by her husbands, Mickey Rooney and Frank Sinatra. In his autobiography, "Life's Too Short," Mickey talks of his regrets for the way he treated his young wife. Frank, for all his charity, was a constant womanizer. There wasn't one who could keep him except his last wife at the end of his life. He was loyal to Nancy in that he supported her for her entire life and was a devoted father.
Was his last wife the one that he was cheating on with Mia Farrow? This would have been in the 70s after Frank and Mia divorce
@@merricat3025 No.
LETS FACE IT---AVA married Rooney for the money and career boost and then when Sinatra came along he could help her career and financial life even better. AVA SOLD HERSELF FOR GAIN,, short and simple.
@@alicephillips3214 Ava was divorced from Mickey in 1943 and did not marry Frank until 1951. Her film career was much bigger than Frank's. She didn't need a boost from him.
Sweet woman!!! She was a homewrecker.
Sinatra was a talented singer/actor. He was also an extremely promiscuous,
hard-drinking man. Ava Gardner was simply an extremely promiscuous hard-drinking
woman.
James Kaplan in his definitive biography on Frank called her "a beautiful nihilist".
She achieved nothing of value, apart from her endless quest for gratification.
She ruined many marriages, including her own.
She drove Frank to near-suicide. Ironically he made his greatest music, because of his destructive relationship with Ava. Eventually, he dropped her as her drinking and wanton behaviour got wilder. Her excesses destroyed her looks and she died alone aged 67.
Nancy Sinatra behaved with enormous dignity throughout Frank's shabby behaviour.
She never remarried and didn't write any kiss and tell stories about her time with
Frank. A lady of true dignity. Even Frank regretted his treatment towards her.
She outlived both of them for many years.
He had a wonderful wife but just was a man that fooled around and most men do anyways, I was married four times and I’m only fussing one of them didn’t cheat, I can’t prove it but after we settled down together it felt like a perfect marriage but after he passed from cancer I was hold g my breathe for some time half expecting some female to show up to tell me he wasn’t faithful but that never happened, I was lucky once, he was the only man I ever met in my life that I’m pretty sure didn’t cheat, I’m including boyfriends, they all did
All men cheat.
It seems to me Frank & Ava were horribly selfish people who deserved each other.
Good for Nancy. She had a good long life and loved by her children. Maybe after Frank she didn’t want another man. She was comfortable healthy had many friends and was respected by those who knew her. I say she was better off just being friends with him.
What a piece of work Frank was. He didn't deserve her.
Kudos for Nancy. Admirable woman!
She was too good for Frank S also a natural beauty she had every thing a man could want in a women what she saw in him I !L CANT UNDERSTAND HE HAD THE BEST .
Nancy was a CLASS ACT!!! That's a whole lot more than I can say for Frank or Ava!
Nancy had little self esteem. She far outdid Ava as a woman in so many way. Beauty fades but virtue grows. Frank was a fool.
Gardner famously said: "He is only 110 pounds, but 10 pounds of it is c**k!"
It was Sinatra's world. Everybody else just lived in it. There was no way a globe trotter in demand for decades by a billion people could stay home. Just no way. Frank always took care of his family even if he broke Nancy's heart.
Anyone think it’s funny they named both their kids after themselves, kinda narcissistic if you ask me 😂
It should be "Why Nancy Sinatra couldn't compete with her husband's ego."
My aunt was good friends with Nancy Frank's wife they went to school together in jersey city nj public school #5, they stayed friends until she my aunt passed away in 1979, my aunt told me that Nancy didn't deserve what she went through with frank she said she was a strong woman who held her head up high but she didn't deserve everything that frank did to her, may she RIP GOD BLESS YOUR SOUL NANCY, AND TO MY AUNT MINNIE GOD BLESS YOUR SOUL YOUR TRULY MISSED AMEN. 🙏🙏🙏
Nancy, was a classy woman. Frank let his ego overrule his good sense. Ava Gardner was more beautiful, but she was a drunk and she aged very badly and lost her beauty. Nancy ended up looking and smelling like a rose.
Good on her great lady.
It is notoriously hard to stay faithful in Hollywood, especially when you reach a pinnacle of popularity--and women just throw themselves at men (and vice versa).
Because NOBODY can compete with The Barefoot Contessa!
When did Nany die? She was obviously a good mother. While she did agree to a divorce, I believe she felt marriage was for life. I've read that Frank said that he'd have stayed with Nancy if he had it all to do over. I feel badly for his last wife. I'm sure he didn't mean it that way but it's almsot like saying he'd rather have stayed with Nancy than get with her eventually.
She died in 2018. She was 101.
No one could compete with Ava. She was stunningly beautiful, but easy. Nancy was too good for Frank.
She married him and she knew what he was like...... Errrrr what did she expect?
Nancy was a lady in every sense; never gave into bitterness. Her children have always stated what a devoted mom she was. Womanizers are a nightmare to any wife.