@@correioanacabral true! Also she was purva bhadrapada moon in indian astrology which is the male lion. 🦁 Indians use the moon nakshatra to describe someones essence and appearance. Most of the women cast in “femme fetale” roles like her have Purva Bhadrapada as a moon placement or somewhere prominent. (14-27 degrees tropical pisces).
Ava appeared with Gregory Peck in 3 films; they remained life long friends. When Ava died at her home in London, UK, Greg went to her home and brought her beloved dog and her long time house keeper to his home in California. They both stayed with him until their deaths. They were beautiful on screen together!
M Mireaux true & though not as talented or career as good(not that she was lacking in either) Yvonne De Carlo in terms of beauty would be in the "Ava Gardner ballpark"
I'll state the obvious, but Ava Gardner proves that what Hollywood mostly lacks now was in great abundance in her case: grace, beauty, poise, and true sex appeal without being smutty.
Charlize Theron Kate Winslet Ashley Judd Zoe Kravitz Reese Witherspoon Halle Berry Just to name a few that posses the qualities you listed and are not “smutty”.
@@hsd287 Those aren't mutually exclusive. Afaict, it basically had the bare minimum technology for a television production (eg, cameras, mics, etc). As it pertains to the essential elements of the program (rather than what it took broadcast to a home audience), it is definitely low tech.
Ava Gardner! Earth-shaking beauty; a face to die for. Dreamiest speaking voice ever. I could look at just her hair all day long. There was nothing overdone or phony about her; even her name was the real deal. A WOMAN TO BE ADMIRED FOR ALL TIME! (notice how at the beginning even the unflappable John Charles Daily was visibly shaken by her, as I STILL am while writing this!)
yes, she had John visibly shaken up. Someone said in the comments that she looked mannish. My goodness - NOT! she's a Southern girl and when a Southern girl is pretty- they are THE PRETTIST! I think she's much prettier than Elizabeth Taylor!
What could I add to many of these fine comments? She was glamorous, very,very beautiful and in my opinion the most beautiful of Hollywood, since its inception. A very simple and modest southern girl. They say she had such a strong southern accent, many of the people working with her when she first arrived in Hollywood, could not understand her. I would of loved to hear her talk, in her natural southern way, before the studio had her work with a diction coach to lose that beautiful and charming accent. An interesting quote by Miss Gardner: "I wish to thank Hollywood for giving me all the things I never wanted." .
+empirical43 that's exactly what i'm searching for and striking out :( I want to hear her original voice. I bet it was lovely. Gosh she's so elegant and beautiful geez!!!! I'm in my 30s but I love movies of old all the way back to silent films. The women were just breathtaking even when smoking which I loathe. :)
If you search YT, you can see a clip of her presenting an Oscar in the 1940's where you can still hear her accent. She sounds nothing like she does on here. MGM must have had her in elocution lessons every single day. It is unreal how different she sounds. Tone and everything.
+MissMcD Find the "Oscars" channel here on YT. They have a clip of her presenting in the 1940's and you'll be able to hear her accent. I'm sure it wasn't as thick as when she first arrived in Hollywood but you can still hear a bit of it.
This beautiful woman was from North Carolina. She grew up poor but became very famous and very wealthy. We in North Carolina are very proud that she represented us in the movie industry. She was so beautiful and so talented and she made other of the bright stars look dim.
Timeless beauty. I'm Generation X and she is by far one of the most stunning actresses I've ever seen or known of. Its no wonder Sinatra was quite literally crazy about her.
Just 19 and new in Hollywood, Ava Gardner married Mickey Rooney, the biggest box office star of his day. Years later Mickey wrote in his autobiography that he had the best sex of his life with Ava. Upon hearing this, Ava responded, "I'm glad one of us enjoyed it."
Idk if I believe that because in her autobiography, as well as Lee Servers "Love is Nothing" and in "The Secret Conversations", she admitted that not only did she lose her virginity to him but sex is all their marriage basically consisted of. She was like a nympho. They were even sleeping together after the divorce - at the same time she was sleeping with Howard Hughes.
Her virginal perspective on what constitutes great sex may have changed after Sinatra and others. Maybe Hughes was even worse in the sack than Mickey. Ava described Hughes as the most shy and eccentric man she ever met. I don't know how germ-phobic he was at that point.
+Bigwave2003 True. In her autobiography she claims she never slept with Hughes but admitted to it in "The Secret Conversations" and talked about how good he was in bed. Who knows what's true though. Supposedly her autobiography was heavily edited and toned down. Both are interesting reads though.
The tragedy of her autobiography, among many, is that she truly wanted to learn the craft of acting. She didn't want to just be up there to be gorgeous. But nobody cared about her learning it. They were happy for her to just be up there looking luminous, and her life might have been so much happier if she had been given any room to develop and grow her talent. She might also have been less likely to be prey to predatory men like Sinatra, Shaw, and Scott.
Ava was incredibly sensuous, and the camera loved her. Arlene Francis was very beautiful as well, and what a wonderful voice. Steve Allen was a true wit.
19:15 When Arlene asks Ava if she's happy about being married there is an awkward silence and no response. At the time Ava was married to her third husband, Frank Sinatra (1951-57) and the relationship was notoriously volatile. One Sinatra friend observed that they were both passionate and short-tempered: If he threw a coffee cup at her, she'd throw a chair at him.
Yes, that somewhat awkward response about being happily married, combined with all the great groundwork questions by the witty Steve Allen, led Bennett Cerf to correctly conclude that Ava was the celebrity challenger. Of course, even though Ava and Frank had a tumultuous relationship, they were still very much in love. During the making of Mogambo, at the time of this WML show, Clark Gable got a gum infection that forced him to return to Los Angeles because he insisted on seeing his own dentist. When Gable returned to the set, Frank Sinatra brought with him spaghetti, tomato sauce, and other Italian foods. Frank and Ava prepared a massive Italian feast for the entire company.
@xxGodx. My father was married for 47 years to to his third wife, until he became a widower. Now, a year after her death, he claims he doesn't love her anymore and is angry at her for what she "took" from him - his wife and children, who had been ages 2, 5, 6, and 8 at the time of their marriage. After she passed away, he said they had both been narcissists!
@@lray1948 uhh.. .... Please call me out but unless I'm getting my timelines juxtaposed here (always a possibility) I think Jack Paar came before Mr Allen in that particular/specific department
Her hair was naturally curly, so there was literally no need for her to even style it. Most of her hair cuts are of the type where she could just shake it out and it would fall perfectly. The studios probably tried to style it lots of times. Towards the 70s she started straightening it. But I believe these are her natural curls in their natural state here. Very beautiful thick hair.
Again, Dorothy never ceases to amaze! Based on the previous questions asked, she had nothing to go on, yet in 4 questions she gets the answer...maternity ward/hospital.
But in the blind questions at the beginning, someone guessed "She runs a hospital". Although Daly denied it, to keep the game going, this was true. How did they know? Did she have an "I run a hospital" vibe? If I saw a lady like that, although she looked strong and no-nonsense it wouldn't have been my first guess.
@@tannwich5350 My grandmother was like that, and also was the head nurse at a hospital in NY. I do believe that strong, somewhat stern yet kind vibe was exactly what this woman was giving off, so based on that, it must be that kind of personality went hand in hand with running a hospital or nursing unit.
Lol, pretty much a testament to her beauty! Her hair here is a simple layer cut that was put into rollers and finger tousled, with a little brush at the bangs. On some people, it would look like just a mess of bed-hair curls, but on her it looks amazing!
Yes! Elisabeth followed her husband to Puerto Vallarte to keep an eye on him while shooting "Night Of The Iguana" (my favorite Tennessee Williams work!). Elisabeth Taylor had to watch out for gorgeous Ava! (That Richard wouldn't get too chummy with her, I mean...!)
Elizabeth Taylor was scared of Ava's beauty. She traveled to Puerto Vallarta w/Richard Burton to make sure he did not go off with Ava when they filmed Night of the Iguana. Ava came to work every day in a bikini in a boat. Liz countered by wearing a bikini all day and stroked Richard's neck and massaged him between takes. Puerta Vallarta was a funky fishing village in those days w/o 5 star hotels. Liz fought for her man because as she said, "Ava was the most beautiful woman ever. Ever."
@Pan Lam I've always wondered why men don't get called "whores" (or various other names that women get called) for the very same behavior! (I hope I haven't opened a can of worms!)
@@lanacastillo49 LOL. You're either jealous or way too into Marilyn. There's nothing long or mannish about Ava's face. And though Marilyn was a sex symbol, that was mostly due to media hype. She was never as beautiful as the likes of Vivian Leigh, Liz Taylor, or Ava Gardner. Sorry~
_De gustibus non est disputandum_, which is Latin for "in matters of taste there can be no disputes," or more commonly rendered as "there's no accounting for taste." And while thinking of pithy sayings, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." It has been my experience that while the majority of adult males might have a personal favorite, they would not have turned down the opportunity to be seen on even one date with any of these icons of Hollywood beauty.
You are quite right, I would not have turned down any opportunity to be seen with any one of these icons. I saw many of them 1st hand as a stage hand and they all were gorgeous all though the ones i looked twice and 3 times at were the red-heads. We all have our personal favorites and O'Hara, Fleming and Jeanne Crain were mine.
+Etnalleb I am more familiar with some beautiful redheads of more recent vintage. I am thinking of Stefanie Powers (I loved "Hart to Hart" and her chemistry with Robert Wagner; as Max said, "She's gorgeous."), Jill St. John, Ann-Margret (I consider strawberry blonde to be red), and two who I especially enjoyed: Marilu Henner (I envy her memory abilities) and a star from my old neighborhood in Queens, Bernadette Peters.
This footage is so old it feels like a secret is being exposed. Wow, TV looked so unfamiliar to me. The product is showcased in a really interesting way. It seemed so simple. With everything today being over the top, this is.... so simple and almost innocent.
Wow what a classical beauty so very well mannered i loved ava gardner as a boy because my aunt looked like her in a way and loved to sing and was well mannered boy i sure miss those days instead of what i see in 2018
when his voice cracked as she sat down she didn't let him off the hook whatsoever or relieve any pressure. look at the way she looks at him...but maybe she couldn't have done it even if she wanted to. look at the way she looks. period.
He was always pretty cool, but here he's flustered. Who can blame him? A woman who can make a man stir through 50-year-old black-and-white footage must have been something in the flesh.
Her face was gorgeous and her speaking voice was tantalizing, as was her giggle. Her duel with Barbara Stanwyck in East Side, West Side is unforgettable! It's a shame the toxicity that surrounded her life.
There's not much to add about this woman.Arguably the most beautiful woman ever to grace the silver screen.But totally untameable(why would you want to).
Being 58 years old myself, I am so sad I missed all the mystery guests than have been on this show. So so glamorous, and I have read that nearly all of them loved being on WML. You can't find anyone from today that is as beautiful and glamorous as Ava, Lauren, Kim Novak, etc. I am thoroughly enjoying watching these clips. I laughed so hard at the Rosalind Russell clip.
aishah abdelnoor with your name you must have been one of those hired rioters (aka "demonstrators") in Baltimore......... & oh btw i NEVER read replies
I love the hair back then - if you wanted curly hair it was OK, if you had natural curly hair than that was even better - now everybody's got to have straight hair.
Ava is a goddess; green eyes, cleft chin, check bones for days, beautiful neck, widow's peak - sexy, gorgeous hair, perfect nose, small frame, elegant, smoked which was ok back then. At 17:41 Ave looks right into the camera. Wow! Kapow!
She walks in beauty like the night - Ava Gardner was one of the most beautiful women of all time. My favorite movie is 'One Touch of Venus'. Absolutely stunning.
winomaster Yes. There was no PC then, and people were nice to one another whether they liked them or not. And everybody had been taught good manners from childhood. I remember a different world from what we have to endure now.
God knows that - thanks to UA-cam ! - I've been watching many episodes of WML with numerous mystery guests, and among them charming men and beautiful ladies... And God also knows how much I'm fed up with reading here things like "This artist is the greatest and the most this and that. Period", as if I had no other choice than agreeing on those mere expressions of a preference ! But let me say that, in my humble opinion, this heavenly creature named Ava Gardner seems to surpass all the WML ladies in beauty, charm, class, elegance, femininity and natural sensuality, and that the merest smile of hers seems to half-open the gates of Paradise... I know this is not a contest, but she appears and I'm just transfixed... (By the way, John Daly's reaction when she sits down next to him is adorable !)
I am THRILLED to see now, many episodes in their entirety. I am particularly keen to come across Martin & Lewis - as their entrance in the clip provided had their entrance omitted. And according to the panel the roar was unparallel. What’s My Line? I would like to Thank You for all your work re: editing these gems - I know it is time consuming and not always appreciated by the viewers.
One Technicolor picture that comes to mind with Ava Gardner in it is the 1951 film version of the Jerome Kern/Oscar Hammerstein II musical is _Show Boat_. The Broadway musical premiered in 1927 and was based on Edna Ferber's 1926 novel of the same name. (There were two previous movie versions in 1929 and 1936.) Though presented in Technicolor, the 1951 film version was not filmed in any "wide screen" format. Worth seeing. I note that every time Ava Gardner's name comes up in connection with a clue or response on _Jeopardy!_, Alex Trebek always says that Ava Gardner is his favorite movie star ever and that he is totally fascinated with her. I can see why, from looking at this episode of _What's My Line?_ I'm impressed, by the way, to have learned that this was Ava Gardner's first television appearance.
@@wtju3883 We also have to give some credit to Annette Warren, who dubbed the singing voice of Julie for the 1951 film. By the way, "Show Boat" is always two words in the title of the novel, the stage musical, and all three films.
Miss Gardner is without a doubt one of the most gorgeous women ever to appear on the big screen. The delightful film 'The Little Hut' (1957) is all the proof one would ever need of the woman's stunning beauty and charm.
The most beautiful woman who ever graced the earth, and she starred with the most beautiful man, Errol Flynn in Hemmingways 'The sun also rises', a pleasure to watch...
gcjerryusc Marilyn was so beautiful, but I am biased in that I prefer brunettes, sorry, regarding Flynn, he aged remarkably well considering the life he led, and I am, believe me, an expert where Errol is concerned, [I first read My Wicked Wicked Ways in 1960 as an 18 year old and have read all in-between....
Ava was instructed by Hollywood moguls to rid herself of her Southern accent, [she came from Grabtown], she was a lovely home-town girl, a talent scout spotted her photo in a shop window and that was the end of her life on earth, from then on she was thrust into the Hollywood melting pot emerging as a hard, callous and unforgiving woman. Regarding Rooney, he persued her relentlessly, followed her everywhere, bombarded her with gifts and flowers and then, [after charming her mother] married her, only to leave her, on their wedding night, 'cos he was drunk untouched, [she was a virgin], the morning after her bed was empty as he had gone playing golf, Jesus, I would still be there fucking her....
+Tommy Hall According to her interview with Peter Evans, the man she hired to do her autobiography and then got cold feet when she realized just how juicy the book would be about many other people in Hollywood who were still alive, Ava was the one who pursued the voice lessons on her own. MGM was perfectly willing to keep her as part of their stable of attractive young women with little talent. She wanted something bigger than that. Once she realized how much her accent was holding her back, she wanted to get rid of it. No matter how beautiful she may have been, there were many beautiful women in Hollywood whose dialog would be understood by the audience.
Well my love, I think you are wrong there, the burning question Evans wanted to ask Ava concerned the size of Sinatra;s member, he kept postponing it, time after time, she rang him up at all times of the night just to chat but each time he never plucked up the courage to broach the subject, she may have got cold feet, but Evans died before he completed his interviews, the book is a record of his conversations with her prior to his unfortunate demise.
+Tommy Hall Well, my understanding is that Evans died in 2012, long after Gardner died in 1990, and she cut off the project of him ghostwriting her autobiography a number of years before her death. So his death didn't cut anything short other than perhaps some editing and fine tuning of "Ava Gardner: The Secret Conversations". And it is my understanding that he deliberately did not publish it himself but arranged for it to be published after his death. One other thing I forgot to mention in my previous post is that she also backed away from Evans and the writing project when she learned that Sinatra had sued Evans and the BBC previously. As to the specific question you claim Evans wanted to ask, but couldn't, I find no evidence of it. Ultimately, neither of us were there, but since Evans knew that Gardner was no prude and had opened up with chapter and verse on her relationships, I would be surprised if there were any questions he didn't think he could ask her. And I would think that an Englishman associated with the BBC could find a very proper way to ask the most indelicate question if he wanted to. Now as to the rather familiar way that you addressed me (in light of the fact that to my recollection this is the first time we have conversed), I can be charitable ... once.
Ava was stunning, female stars had such glamour and charisma - and a bit of mystery about them - back then.It really added to their allure. But I have to say I was a little shocked at how thin she was when she stood up to leave, so it seems the slender figure is not such a modern obsession!
@@suellennixon Very true. You only have to buy vintage clothes to know that. A UK size 12 from the 'Seventies would be tiny in 2021, like a UK size 8 or 10 today. Shops are making clothes and everything else bigger to accommodate our growing frames! I just bought a garden bench advertised as a 'two seater'. When it arrived and I assembled it, I found it fits three, normal sized (ie not obese) people.The obesity epidemic is a huge problem, no pun intended. Its causes are complex of course, but I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact modern economies expect men and women to work outside the home full time. This means there is no home maker to prepare a home cooked meal every day for the household. Everyone's too tired/busy to cook a meal from scratch, so we are living on quick (though not nutritious) convenience foods, ready meals and snacks. Meals (if you can call them that), are blasted in a microwave for 3 minutes and ready to eat. And we're giving this crappy, high carb, low nutrient food to our growing children. It's likely laying down fat cells in them young, which remain forever and make it easier to gain weight - as well as programming their brains to be addicted to fat and sugar. When I was a kid there was no McDonalds. Those companies get to children young and made them addicts (fast food is literally addictive as crack cocaine to some brains). It was a special treat to have a take out meal like fish and chips or Chinese food. Mum and dad would treat us maybe once every few weeks. Now people seem to eat takeout several times a week. Many are cash rich, time poor - ie working long hours, therefore willing to pay for a cooked meal rather than buy ingredients and make it from scratch themselves, as they don't have time when they get home. I also think we've become a society of snackers, constantly grazing on crisps/chips and candy. People are afraid of feeling hunger - that stomach rumbling sensation that tells you you need to eat soon, is perfectly natural and normal. It used to be called 'working up an appetite'. Then when you finally got to eat, you really enjoyed it! Something radical must happen if we are ever going to turn back the clock. But I worry the genie is out of the bottle now, never to return. People today just don't have the time or inclination to eat better! It's very sad for the next generation who don't know any better.
@@glamdolly30 YES! Let me just add that the obesity epidemic you speak of really took off in the 1970's when food companies conspired to blame weight gain on "fat" instead of "sugar" and then started putting out "low in fat" or "no fat" products so that in buying these, people would actually think they were safe from piling on the pounds - NOT. It is a big fat lie, we all know nowadays that sugar is to blame for obesity and diabetes and heart disease etc but companies lied, sabotaged and swindled the american people. With the expansion of american fast food culture, epitomized by Burger King and McDonalds, the obesity epidemic as imported from the US, is a worldwide problem, a pandemic, in fact. In a country like Kuwait, on the persian gulf, the obesity rates have spiked and obesity is a growing health problem especially in children and the issue has been ascribed to the recent set up of Burger King and/or McDonalds in the country. I am not speaking as an american but as an european woman, this is a very serious matter and I can't help but cringe when I hear of "fat acceptance" - not for me, thanks.
@@KTR2022 You are 100% correct, full fat was painted as the bogyman - and animal fat was supposed to be the very devil, when in fact people got fat on convenience foods containing vegetable oil and the dreaded 'trans fats' which as you know are an artificially manufactured fat our bodies don't process easily. I remember as a child my mother refused to give us real butter but instead insisted on margarine - she had an uncle who was a doctor and a leading light in the low fat fervour gripping Western nations. He got it totally wrong of course - natural animal fats like butter are not the enemy, but a natural, nutrient rich food - eaten in moderation. I eat butter today but not to excess - a little goes a long way. Margarine tastes vile and has as much nutritional value as face cream! The real culprit as you say, was sugar/white refined carbs. And what do manufacturers put into low fat foods to replace the fat and make them taste palatable? Sugar of course. Many people got fat on a low fat diet!
@@glamdolly30 YES! Some of my family members keep buying these "low in fat" or "light" or "diet" products, they are seduced by the prospect of eating something very good and delicious without putting on weight. I have to remind them that the product boasts an absurd amount of sugar and won't do them any good. It will cause a great spike on their sugar levels and make them moody, anxious and hungry in two hours. People are being swindled, in America, in Europe, everywhere. I have, in the past two years, started a low sugar diet and I have since then felt repulsion towards sugary food and drinks - I feel sickened by them and not tempeted when I see other people eat them. There is a very logic answer to this: the less sugar you eat the less sugar you crave, sugar works in the brain as dopamine and drugs and that's how to get rid of it. I've revealed my magical formula to some people when they ask me how to stop sugar cravings, I tell them "if you want to stop craving sugar all you have to do is stop eating sugar" but they can't give it up. I confess that there was a time when I myself swapped butter for magarine but I was quite ignorant about trans fats at the time and I did it because I have a gut issue with dairy - it was a biiiig mistake and I got rid of it when I realised what I had in hands. Ignorance promotes obesity.
One more who says Ava Gardner was one of the most beautiful...if not THE most beautiful...of the Hollywood stars. And by all accounts one of the most real and down-to-earth women out there. I think her close friendship with Grace Kelly to be one of the more interesting ones; on the surface you would think they had absolutely nothing in common, but there must have been some common thread there because their friendship lasted for thirty years, until Grace's death.
hcombs0104:. In 1952/53 they were together in Africa with a Very difficult director John Ford, horrifically hot and humid weather, Sinatra's careen was in the toilet and Ava went to beg an obnoxious Harry Cohn of Columbia to get him the role of Maggio in From Here To Eternity, she stopped in London to have Sinatra's son aborted without telling him till later, she was sleeping with a couple of bullfighters from Spain, passionately in and out of love with Frank... with all that chaos she found a peaceful companion in Grace Kelly, who also slept with almost everyone with whom she ever made a movie, and there was sexual tension with Gable. By the way, Sinatra and Ava loved each other until her death, and Sinatra picked up the tab for all her medical and living expenses toward the end of her life. There are multiple sources documenting all of this... makes for some fascinating reading about some very complicated and people.
Ava Gardner had a classic beauty that can be found in some of the Greek statues! Her profile looks just like one of those timeless pieces of sculpture by the Greeks who almost worshipped beauty and the human body! Indeed, this little girl from North Carolina grew up to be an iconic beauty that has yet to be surpassed.
Ava was divinely beautiful and her life story was as"shocking" as even Confidential Magazine portrayed it. - A true she-cat hedonist. She said "I was beautiful but I had no morals." Well, a fine actress - more so than she's given credit for. A wonderful, smoky singing voice. - Sometimes I wonder what being perfectly beautiful can do to a woman's mind though. Look at Marilyn. - Goddesses pay a high price for being goddesses. And getting old is tough for every lady, pretty or not. I read a Kenneth Tynan piece where he visited her before her death. He said you couldn't tell it was Ava - just a grey little old woman. And she kept flipping through stacks of photo albums: "Wasn't I beautiful? Wasn't I beautiful?" Gosh.
+Gail Jarvis Yes, everything you say is true. For example, the magnificent Ava Gardiner was a serious drinker, and the destructive consequences of that habit made themselves painfully apparent only 6 or 7 years after this show was aired, by which time her legendary beauty had faded considerably.
+eoselan7 That's true, the drinking, and the irrepressible false confidence and unrealistic self-image that is fed by financial rewards, huge mansions, and being an inside member of the Hollywood clique of other gorgeous and frequently empty people. - Lately, I've noticed a bombardment of "never seen before" photos of M. Monroe. - I wonder that she ever found time to make a movie. When you are worshiped for your transitory beauty, and locked into what you see in the mirror, the future is your enemy. What a price to pay.
+Cassie Miller Right you are. In fact, don't we all place too much importance on beauty? Still, what I see "on the streets" is very different from what I see when I pick up a mag-rag, which I avoid doing. - Go to the supermarket and you get bombarded by anorectic out of wedlock floozies, (which is a kind word). Makes me harden back to the time when the news was news, not the recent flashes of bottom and bosom. Ava Gardner was an original. No one else like her. Fine actress too. She belittled her talent. Thanks to classic, "old" movies, we can come to appreciate that. Thank you for the comment.
No matter how beautiful a woman is considered by her public, I've never seen one who didn't point out some flaw they felt that they had when they were interviewed on the subject of their attractiveness, even when they were in their prime. With society equating so much of a woman's value with her beauty, no wonder we tend to get so concerned with anything that we feel detracts from it. Either that or we reach a point where we throw up our hands and say "the heck with it."
And, David, Bennett Cerf was SO erudite, witty and charming, don't you think? I found a quote of his today that I think you will appreciate: "The Detroit String Quartet played Brahms last night. Brahms lost." (!!!) 😊😊😊
Not your fault, since this is so widely misquoted: Bennett didn't coin this phrase; he merely collected it in one of his books of anecdotes. Original version: "A Detroit music reviewer contributed this phrase: 'The Blank String Quartet played Brahms last night. Brahms lost.'"
Ava Gardner is gorgeous, beyond gorgeous. I'm so glad this is available because it's the first time she was on TV, maybe the only time. Not sure. It's too bad John didn't let her talk because I wanted to hear more of Ava and less of John. At 17:42 Ava looks right into the camera - cool. She was near sighted.
Hmmm. She certainly is very beautiful, but there are other contenders for the most beautiful, and it's really a matter of individual taste. I speak as a man. Rita Hayworth, Kim Novak, to mention but two.
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Ava Gardner... To me she definitely was one of the most beautiful women of all time
Indeed!
Couldn't agree more. I just simply adore her beauty.
They all look good with makeup..
She is One of the most Beautiful women of all time, Second of coarse to Audrey Hepburn naturally.
She and Lena Horne were roommates. They were both very beautiful.
She's almost feline, like a luminous preening lioness... Literally stunning.
Looks incredible here!!
Yes. Along with Sophia Loren and Liz Taylor, the most stunning beauty in all of Hollywood history❗🎯
I dont mean to be the astrological weirdo lol but she was a Leo Ascendant, which is very fitting
@@correioanacabral true! Also she was purva bhadrapada moon in indian astrology which is the male lion. 🦁 Indians use the moon nakshatra to describe someones essence and appearance. Most of the women cast in “femme fetale” roles like her have Purva Bhadrapada as a moon placement or somewhere prominent. (14-27 degrees tropical pisces).
@@correioanacabral She was born on Christmas eve- Dec. 24. That's Capricorn
Ava appeared with Gregory Peck in 3 films; they remained life long friends. When Ava died at her home in London, UK, Greg went to her home and brought her beloved dog and her long time house keeper to his home in California. They both stayed with him until their deaths. They were beautiful on screen together!
Thanks for sharing Jane
When you say BOTH stayed with him until their deaths, did you mean Ava and the maid or Ava and her dog? It's not an important point, but I'm confused.
The dog and the maid stayed with Peck until they died. He supported them even when Ava was gone. God bless them all
Had no idea- one of reasons. I love Greg!
@@winomaster Well it certainly wasn't Ava. That might have been a bit smelly.
Absolutely one of THE most gorgeous women ever to grace this planet!!!
i think Kim Novak certainly deserves some consideration
john lewis Grace Kelly, too.
audrey hepburn I disgaree-SOMEwhat. Let's just agree that they were both 10's-PLUS, in their own right.
M Mireaux Rita Hayworth in her prime.
M Mireaux true & though not as talented or career as good(not that she was lacking in either) Yvonne De Carlo in terms of beauty would be in the "Ava Gardner ballpark"
Ava's beauty is just hard to define.
My Space indeed
Sultry
She was very beautiful one of Hollywood's true Goddess....
Can see why Sinatra never got over her. Ravishing.
When a woman's hair played a big role.
I'll state the obvious, but Ava Gardner proves that what Hollywood mostly lacks now was in great abundance in her case: grace, beauty, poise, and true sex appeal without being smutty.
Not sure about smutty
But I like smutty. It's the best part.
All true but not a very good actress compared to the likes of Bette,Olivia,Ann Sheridan et al.
Charlize Theron
Kate Winslet
Ashley Judd
Zoe Kravitz
Reese Witherspoon
Halle Berry
Just to name a few that posses the qualities you listed and are not “smutty”.
Ava was a smut! Lmao I read her book. She was classy in public but whew...that's how it should be
What I like about these shows is that no one is snarky or rude, but rather are polite and positive. 😊
I love how incredibly low tech this was, but much more entertaining than anything on tv today.
They should bring the show back!!! Nothing like it on the tube these days!
Yes your right
No
It wasn't low tech it was extremely good quality at the 50s time
@@hsd287 Those aren't mutually exclusive. Afaict, it basically had the bare minimum technology for a television production (eg, cameras, mics, etc). As it pertains to the essential elements of the program (rather than what it took broadcast to a home audience), it is definitely low tech.
Ava Gardner! Earth-shaking beauty; a face to die for. Dreamiest speaking
voice ever. I could look at just her hair
all day long. There
was nothing overdone or phony
about her; even her name was the real deal.
A WOMAN TO BE ADMIRED FOR ALL TIME! (notice how at
the beginning even the unflappable John
Charles Daily was visibly shaken by her,
as I STILL am while
writing this!)
yes, she had John visibly shaken up. Someone said in the comments that she looked mannish. My goodness - NOT! she's a Southern girl and when a Southern girl is pretty- they are THE PRETTIST! I think she's much prettier than Elizabeth Taylor!
Seriously. That hair needs star billing.
Just in awe of the courtesy and elegance of the people. Watching this 70 years after it was aired.
What could I add to many of these fine comments? She was glamorous, very,very beautiful and in my opinion the most beautiful of Hollywood, since its inception. A very simple and modest southern girl. They say she had such a strong southern accent, many of the people working with her when she first arrived in Hollywood, could not understand her. I would of loved to hear her talk, in her natural southern way, before the studio had her work with a diction coach to lose that beautiful and charming accent. An interesting quote by Miss Gardner: "I wish to thank Hollywood for giving me all the things I never wanted."
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+empirical43 that's exactly what i'm searching for and striking out :( I want to hear her original voice. I bet it was lovely. Gosh she's so elegant and beautiful geez!!!! I'm in my 30s but I love movies of old all the way back to silent films. The women were just breathtaking even when smoking which I loathe. :)
If you search YT, you can see a clip of her presenting an Oscar in the 1940's where you can still hear her accent. She sounds nothing like she does on here. MGM must have had her in elocution lessons every single day. It is unreal how different she sounds. Tone and everything.
+MissMcD Find the "Oscars" channel here on YT. They have a clip of her presenting in the 1940's and you'll be able to hear her accent. I'm sure it wasn't as thick as when she first arrived in Hollywood but you can still hear a bit of it.
+MissMcD o
MissMcD im 16 and started watching 40s and 50s movies this year and so far i love them and i love ava
This beautiful woman was from North Carolina. She grew up poor but became very famous and very wealthy. We in North Carolina are very proud that she represented us in the movie industry. She was so beautiful and so talented and she made other of the bright stars look dim.
Their is an Ava Gardner museaum too in N.Carolina?
Yes, in Smithfield, NC, where relatives still live.@@rodserling6955
Timeless beauty. I'm Generation X and she is by far one of the most stunning actresses I've ever seen or known of. Its no wonder Sinatra was quite literally crazy about her.
Just 19 and new in Hollywood, Ava Gardner married Mickey Rooney, the biggest box office star of his day. Years later Mickey wrote in his autobiography that he had the best sex of his life with Ava. Upon hearing this, Ava responded, "I'm glad one of us enjoyed it."
Idk if I believe that because in her autobiography, as well as Lee Servers "Love is Nothing" and in "The Secret Conversations", she admitted that not only did she lose her virginity to him but sex is all their marriage basically consisted of. She was like a nympho. They were even sleeping together after the divorce - at the same time she was sleeping with Howard Hughes.
Her virginal perspective on what constitutes great sex may have changed after Sinatra and others. Maybe Hughes was even worse in the sack than Mickey. Ava described Hughes as the most shy and eccentric man she ever met. I don't know how germ-phobic he was at that point.
+Bigwave2003 True. In her autobiography she claims she never slept with Hughes but admitted to it in "The Secret Conversations" and talked about how good he was in bed. Who knows what's true though. Supposedly her autobiography was heavily edited and toned down. Both are interesting reads though.
Hilarious! Serves him right for flapping his mouth.
Bigwave2003 he said horrible things about all his exes.
Everyone should read her biography. She was no phony and she took no crap from anyone. Shocking revelations about her life.
I wonder if it’s still available.
Very true and I’ll try to find the biography. I know Frank Sinatra talked her out of doing a autobiography.
The tragedy of her autobiography, among many, is that she truly wanted to learn the craft of acting. She didn't want to just be up there to be gorgeous. But nobody cared about her learning it. They were happy for her to just be up there looking luminous, and her life might have been so much happier if she had been given any room to develop and grow her talent. She might also have been less likely to be prey to predatory men like Sinatra, Shaw, and Scott.
I have a new granddaughter, her mother named her “Ava”. We all love the name and the beautiful lady that inspired us to name her . Very blessed.
She is so gorgeous. Her voice is amazing.
Ava was incredibly sensuous, and the camera loved her. Arlene Francis was very beautiful as well, and what a wonderful voice. Steve Allen was a true wit.
Most intelligent four ever on a TV panel to me...
Bill Brimmer - I think Steve Allan is so damn sexy, I love a man with glasses & a sense of humor❤️❤️❤️❤️
I totally approve this message. 😊👍
Ava’s voice, good god 😩 And her giggles and laughs, so cute. I wish we had an actual interview with her we could see. But I definitely cherish this!
Even her voice was gorgeous.
Wow! Ava Gardner was a stunner!
remingtonh ...reminiscent in her feline/cute dimpled way and colouring of aNOTHER stunner, Vivien Leigh...;)!
19:15 When Arlene asks Ava if she's happy about being married there is an awkward silence and no response. At the time Ava was married to her third husband, Frank Sinatra (1951-57) and the relationship was notoriously volatile. One Sinatra friend observed that they were both passionate and short-tempered: If he threw a coffee cup at her, she'd throw a chair at him.
She went to london to abort their baby
Yes, that somewhat awkward response about being happily married, combined with all the great groundwork questions by the witty Steve Allen, led Bennett Cerf to correctly conclude that Ava was the celebrity challenger. Of course, even though Ava and Frank had a tumultuous relationship, they were still very much in love. During the making of Mogambo, at the time of this WML show, Clark Gable got a gum infection that forced him to return to Los Angeles because he insisted on seeing his own dentist. When Gable returned to the set, Frank Sinatra brought with him spaghetti, tomato sauce, and other Italian foods. Frank and Ava prepared a massive Italian feast for the entire company.
Eisal Mazard - they were so much in love one reader said, yet she got an abortion?? Wow, that’s tragic for the baby!!
AZ Tech - wow, 2??? beautiful face of Ava, but murderous heart & soul, I wonder if she regretted it
@xxGodx. My father was married for 47 years to to his third wife, until he became a widower. Now, a year after her death, he claims he doesn't love her anymore and is angry at her for what she "took" from him - his wife and children, who had been ages 2, 5, 6, and 8 at the time of their marriage. After she passed away, he said they had both been narcissists!
OMG, but Ava Gardener was so incredibly glamorous...her smile alone would light up a room...
Steve Allen is the pinnacle of respectfulness, grace, humor, wit, charm, warmth, and overall decorum. A true gentleman to be emulated.
TheBigMclargehuge - I wish there were more men like Steve - lol
@@madambutterfly7513 Steve Allen was the first of the late nite talk show hosts. First host of "The Tonight Show" in early 50s
@@lray1948 uhh.. .... Please call me out but unless I'm getting my timelines juxtaposed here (always a possibility) I think Jack Paar came before Mr Allen in that particular/specific department
He was my favorite "4th panelist," his delivery was always hilarious.
@@drumbum3.142 - you're confused. Allen invented the "Tonight" Show. Paar came after him.
Her voice was softly caressing and her body rhythmically moving she truly was the world's most exciting animal
Caressing vocas indeed...specially when she says "yes it is" in response to the question of being in TV for the first time.
This woman is one of the few that was naturally beautiful. She was simply perfect.
Good grief , she is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen!
hell yeah she is
i love her chin.
I love her whole body...
the chin was that of an angel...made her face unique and GORGEOUS!!!@@tmac8892
Lauren Bacall was more attractive.
Ava’s dress is absolutely stunning on her and classic - it could be worn today without looking specifically “1950s””
That dress! Did you notice how slim she was? Gorgeous hair, great body, fabulous face, fabulous everything.
Ava Gardner was one gorgeous woman! 😍
Jade Zee think pneumonia took her life. Mary Elizabeth winstead is her cousin.
@@gutsfield3504 She had emphysema bad too. Too much smoking
She had such beautiful hair. It moves naturally and is
longer than most wore it.
Her hair was naturally curly, so there was literally no need for her to even style it.
Most of her hair cuts are of the type where she could just shake it out and it would fall perfectly.
The studios probably tried to style it lots of times. Towards the 70s she started straightening it.
But I believe these are her natural curls in their natural state here. Very beautiful thick hair.
@@NatashazDean917 I believe that's a roller set, though
The days when studios hired actresses based on their looks. then they taught them how to act-they all acted the same.
@@shhh3185good ole roller set lol
Ava seems so sweet and lovely but in real life a little tougher.
Again, Dorothy never ceases to amaze! Based on the previous questions asked, she had nothing to go on, yet in 4 questions she gets the answer...maternity ward/hospital.
But in the blind questions at the beginning, someone guessed "She runs a hospital". Although Daly denied it, to keep the game going, this was true. How did they know? Did she have an "I run a hospital" vibe? If I saw a lady like that, although she looked strong and no-nonsense it wouldn't have been my first guess.
Dorothy was a very smart lady with a very untimely and suspicious death. Look into that a little bit here on YT.
@@tannwich5350 My grandmother was like that, and also was the head nurse at a hospital in NY. I do believe that strong, somewhat stern yet kind vibe was exactly what this woman was giving off, so based on that, it must be that kind of personality went hand in hand with running a hospital or nursing unit.
I love Ava Gardner...the epitome of beauty and grace.
Ava Gardner had unbelievable hair here .. Wow!!
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Lol, pretty much a testament to her beauty! Her hair here is a simple layer cut that was put into rollers and finger tousled, with a little brush at the bangs. On some people, it would look like just a mess of bed-hair curls, but on her it looks amazing!
Talk about someone with unbelievable hair, take a look at Vestal Goodman in her younger videos
A good hair dresser does that
for what it's worth Elizabeth Taylor said Ava Gardner was beautiful
Yes! Elisabeth followed her husband to Puerto Vallarte to keep an eye on him while shooting "Night Of The Iguana" (my favorite Tennessee Williams work!). Elisabeth Taylor had to watch out for gorgeous Ava! (That Richard wouldn't get too chummy with her, I mean...!)
Elizabeth Taylor was scared of Ava's beauty. She traveled to Puerto Vallarta w/Richard Burton to make sure he did not go off with Ava when they filmed Night of the Iguana. Ava came to work every day in a bikini in a boat. Liz countered by wearing a bikini all day and stroked Richard's neck and massaged him between takes. Puerta Vallarta was a funky fishing village in those days w/o 5 star hotels. Liz fought for her man because as she said, "Ava was the most beautiful woman ever. Ever."
@@GElvis001 Married men should also abstain from such "immoral" things... Otherwise they adobt habits of whores...
adopt, sorry...
@Pan Lam
I've always wondered why men don't get called "whores" (or various other names that women get called) for the very same behavior!
(I hope I haven't opened a can of worms!)
She is feline like in her beauty.
James Dunn ...much alike as in the way of Sophia Loren..;)!
Her face is long and mannish unlike Marilyn
@@lanacastillo49 LOL. You're either jealous or way too into Marilyn. There's nothing long or mannish about Ava's face. And though Marilyn was a sex symbol, that was mostly due to media hype. She was never as beautiful as the likes of Vivian Leigh, Liz Taylor, or Ava Gardner. Sorry~
Vintage
@@lanacastillo49 You already said that honey. We know your thoughts on the matter
Ava's beauty and demeanor are mesmerizing. What a stunner!!!
Ava was one of natures perfect beauties. Stunningly Perfect.
The most beautiful woman of Old Hollywood, without a doubt. Her features are absolutely breathtaking, a dark feline-esque beauty. 🖤🖤🖤
The fact that Ava still looked absolutely stunning even with all that heavy drinking is crazy.
Ikr
Ava Gardner is a supernatural beauty!!
Incredible Ava,what a dream!
Imagine you're at the Stork Club in 53 and she shoots you one of these 17:43 . There was Gardner. Everyone else was scenery
:)
Comment and find of the century. My goodness.
She would have killed me...
What's My Line? 😘😘😘😘💤
She along with Liz Taylor & Dorothy Dandridge are the most beautiful women from that era. Absolutely stunning.
Maybe as far as brunette's go but i think Maureen O'Hara and Rhonda Fleming were the most beautiful of that era , I like RedHeads
Hayworth was a natural Brunette not a red-head but i agree she was in the very elite of the most beautiful.
_De gustibus non est disputandum_, which is Latin for "in matters of taste there can be no disputes," or more commonly rendered as "there's no accounting for taste." And while thinking of pithy sayings, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
It has been my experience that while the majority of adult males might have a personal favorite, they would not have turned down the opportunity to be seen on even one date with any of these icons of Hollywood beauty.
You are quite right, I would not have turned down any opportunity to be seen with any one of these icons. I saw many of them 1st hand as a stage hand and they all were gorgeous all though the ones i looked twice and 3 times at were the red-heads. We all have our personal favorites and O'Hara, Fleming and Jeanne Crain were mine.
+Etnalleb
I am more familiar with some beautiful redheads of more recent vintage. I am thinking of Stefanie Powers (I loved "Hart to Hart" and her chemistry with Robert Wagner; as Max said, "She's gorgeous."), Jill St. John, Ann-Margret (I consider strawberry blonde to be red), and two who I especially enjoyed: Marilu Henner (I envy her memory abilities) and a star from my old neighborhood in Queens, Bernadette Peters.
She is still more beautiful here as herself, unscripted than in any film role...My heart is in my mouth...!
Ava Gardner is nothing short of iconic. The best book about her is Living with Miss G by Mearene Jordan ( her housekeeper) it’s so so good.
My gosh! She is simply mesmerizing, hypnotizing..She's was a real life Greek or Roman goddess! WOW!
I love Arlene's added comment "are you glad?" after asking if she was married! Ava is clearly not amused!
Arlene was sometimes impudent, I've noticed it
Why did she ask that question
@@phillypayton9830 Maybe she was empathizing? Knowing how Hollywood marriages went?
@@phillypayton9830 - no one knows ... Arlene is allowed a few mistakes ... why bother asking.
This footage is so old it feels like a secret is being exposed.
Wow, TV looked so unfamiliar to me. The product is showcased in a really interesting way. It seemed so simple. With everything today being over the top, this is.... so simple and almost innocent.
Wow what a classical beauty so very well mannered i loved ava gardner as a boy because my aunt looked like her in a way and loved to sing and was well mannered boy i sure miss those days instead of what i see in 2018
I was simply reading The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo and now that I came upon her I can't help but picture her as Evelyn. She's just so beautiful
She makes me smile and only got lovelier with the years.
They are all so classic and sophisticated with the way they talk it makes them such charming and attractive people.
when his voice cracked as she sat down she didn't let him off the hook whatsoever or relieve any pressure. look at the way she looks at him...but maybe she couldn't have done it even if she wanted to. look at the way she looks. period.
He was always pretty cool, but here he's flustered. Who can blame him? A woman who can make a man stir through 50-year-old black-and-white footage must have been something in the flesh.
The segment with the maternity hospital administrator was a riot. You could see John squirming at some of those questions. :-)
I've only just noticed recently that you're no longer reluctant. :) I'm wondering why. . . ?
While I watched that segment my thoughts were why didn’t the 2 men stand when she shook their hands along with the last guest?
Her face was gorgeous and her speaking voice was tantalizing, as was her giggle. Her duel with Barbara Stanwyck in East Side, West Side is unforgettable! It's a shame the toxicity that surrounded her life.
When I was very young random passersby used to pause to stare at my mother because she so resembled Ava Gardner, something Mom enjoyed.
Lucky Lucky you to have those genes in your family!
A timeless classic beauty....RIP Ava.
good god ava gardener was so beautiful,i think the most beautiful of all time
There's not much to add about this woman.Arguably the most beautiful woman ever to grace the silver screen.But totally untameable(why would you want to).
Ronald Reagan
Being 58 years old myself, I am so sad I missed all the mystery guests than have been on this show. So so glamorous, and I have read that nearly all of them loved being on WML. You can't find anyone from today that is as beautiful and glamorous as Ava, Lauren, Kim Novak, etc. I am thoroughly enjoying watching these clips. I laughed so hard at the Rosalind Russell clip.
aishah abdelnoor with your name you must have been one of those hired rioters (aka "demonstrators") in Baltimore......... & oh btw i NEVER read replies
+aishah abdelnoor
What's your big problem?? What a way to talk! (No one would challenge you that there are gorgeous women all over the world!)
I love the hair back then - if you wanted curly hair it was OK, if you had natural curly hair than that was even better - now everybody's got to have straight hair.
I have yet to see a woman wear her straight hair on this show.
quelle beauté quelle grace .... magnifique Ava .... mercu pour ce moment d'exception !
Wow! Her and Yvonne DeCarlo were the most stunning women in Hollywood. No one even comes close today. 😍🥰
Ava is a goddess; green eyes, cleft chin, check bones for days, beautiful neck, widow's peak - sexy, gorgeous hair, perfect nose, small frame, elegant, smoked which was ok back then. At 17:41 Ave looks right into the camera. Wow! Kapow!
She walks in beauty like the night - Ava Gardner was one of the most beautiful women of all time. My favorite movie is 'One Touch of Venus'. Absolutely stunning.
Dorothy is always on the mark.
Ava and Elizabeth Taylor were the brunettes of the 50s. Thanks for the upload!
Part of the appeal of this show was that the people of this time were not so jaded about sex. Nor were they so frazzeled by political correctness.
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winomaster Yes. There was no PC then, and people were nice to one another whether they liked them or not. And everybody had been taught good manners from childhood. I remember a different world from what we have to endure now.
winomaster YES! Such sadness to live in these horrible times, surrounded by meanness.
winomaster
Bingo!!
God knows that - thanks to UA-cam ! - I've been watching many episodes of WML with numerous mystery guests, and among them charming men and beautiful ladies... And God also knows how much I'm fed up with reading here things like "This artist is the greatest and the most this and that. Period", as if I had no other choice than agreeing on those mere expressions of a preference ! But let me say that, in my humble opinion, this heavenly creature named Ava Gardner seems to surpass all the WML ladies in beauty, charm, class, elegance, femininity and natural sensuality, and that the merest smile of hers seems to half-open the gates of Paradise... I know this is not a contest, but she appears and I'm just transfixed... (By the way, John Daly's reaction when she sits down next to him is adorable !)
I couldn't say it any better myself
I am THRILLED to see now, many episodes in their entirety.
I am particularly keen to come across Martin & Lewis - as their entrance in the clip provided had their entrance omitted. And according to the panel the roar was unparallel.
What’s My Line? I would like to Thank You for all your work re: editing these gems - I know it is time consuming and not always appreciated by the viewers.
One Technicolor picture that comes to mind with Ava Gardner in it is the 1951 film version of the Jerome Kern/Oscar Hammerstein II musical is _Show Boat_. The Broadway musical premiered in 1927 and was based on Edna Ferber's 1926 novel of the same name. (There were two previous movie versions in 1929 and 1936.) Though presented in Technicolor, the 1951 film version was not filmed in any "wide screen" format. Worth seeing. I note that every time Ava Gardner's name comes up in connection with a clue or response on _Jeopardy!_, Alex Trebek always says that Ava Gardner is his favorite movie star ever and that he is totally fascinated with her. I can see why, from looking at this episode of _What's My Line?_ I'm impressed, by the way, to have learned that this was Ava Gardner's first television appearance.
ToddSF 94109 I second the motion. I loved her in Showboat, even though she was the supporting actress.
@@wtju3883 We also have to give some credit to Annette Warren, who dubbed the singing voice of Julie for the 1951 film. By the way, "Show Boat" is always two words in the title of the novel, the stage musical, and all three films.
Miss Gardner is without a doubt one of the most gorgeous women ever to appear on the big screen. The delightful film 'The Little Hut' (1957) is all the proof one would ever need of the woman's stunning beauty and charm.
The most beautiful woman who ever graced the earth, and she starred with the most beautiful man, Errol Flynn in Hemmingways 'The sun also rises', a pleasure to watch...
gcjerryusc Marilyn was so beautiful, but I am biased in that I prefer brunettes, sorry, regarding Flynn, he aged remarkably well considering the life he led, and I am, believe me, an expert where Errol is concerned, [I first read My Wicked Wicked Ways in 1960 as an 18 year old and have read all in-between....
Ava was instructed by Hollywood moguls to rid herself of her Southern accent, [she came from Grabtown], she was a lovely home-town girl, a talent scout spotted her photo in a shop window and that was the end of her life on earth, from then on she was thrust into the Hollywood melting pot emerging as a hard, callous and unforgiving woman. Regarding Rooney, he persued her relentlessly, followed her everywhere, bombarded her with gifts and flowers and then, [after charming her mother] married her, only to leave her, on their wedding night, 'cos he was drunk untouched, [she was a virgin], the morning after her bed was empty as he had gone playing golf, Jesus, I would still be there fucking her....
+Tommy Hall
According to her interview with Peter Evans, the man she hired to do her autobiography and then got cold feet when she realized just how juicy the book would be about many other people in Hollywood who were still alive, Ava was the one who pursued the voice lessons on her own. MGM was perfectly willing to keep her as part of their stable of attractive young women with little talent. She wanted something bigger than that. Once she realized how much her accent was holding her back, she wanted to get rid of it.
No matter how beautiful she may have been, there were many beautiful women in Hollywood whose dialog would be understood by the audience.
Well my love, I think you are wrong there, the burning question Evans wanted to ask Ava concerned the size of Sinatra;s member, he kept postponing it, time after time, she rang him up at all times of the night just to chat but each time he never plucked up the courage to broach the subject, she may have got cold feet, but Evans died before he completed his interviews, the book is a record of his conversations with her prior to his unfortunate demise.
+Tommy Hall
Well, my understanding is that Evans died in 2012, long after Gardner died in 1990, and she cut off the project of him ghostwriting her autobiography a number of years before her death. So his death didn't cut anything short other than perhaps some editing and fine tuning of "Ava Gardner: The Secret Conversations". And it is my understanding that he deliberately did not publish it himself but arranged for it to be published after his death.
One other thing I forgot to mention in my previous post is that she also backed away from Evans and the writing project when she learned that Sinatra had sued Evans and the BBC previously.
As to the specific question you claim Evans wanted to ask, but couldn't, I find no evidence of it. Ultimately, neither of us were there, but since Evans knew that Gardner was no prude and had opened up with chapter and verse on her relationships, I would be surprised if there were any questions he didn't think he could ask her. And I would think that an Englishman associated with the BBC could find a very proper way to ask the most indelicate question if he wanted to.
Now as to the rather familiar way that you addressed me (in light of the fact that to my recollection this is the first time we have conversed), I can be charitable ... once.
I love Daly's shtick of suddenly rising out of his chair whenever someone says anything untoward, and hereby resolve to adopt it in my everyday life.
A.J. Mell me too!!! Gets me EVERY time! Lol
I love it too! 😀
Ava was stunning, female stars had such glamour and charisma - and a bit of mystery about them - back then.It really added to their allure. But I have to say I was a little shocked at how thin she was when she stood up to leave, so it seems the slender figure is not such a modern obsession!
fat then would only be chubby now--people have just gotten much bigger
@@suellennixon Very true. You only have to buy vintage clothes to know that. A UK size 12 from the 'Seventies would be tiny in 2021, like a UK size 8 or 10 today. Shops are making clothes and everything else bigger to accommodate our growing frames!
I just bought a garden bench advertised as a 'two seater'. When it arrived and I assembled it, I found it fits three, normal sized (ie not obese) people.The obesity epidemic is a huge problem, no pun intended.
Its causes are complex of course, but I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact modern economies expect men and women to work outside the home full time. This means there is no home maker to prepare a home cooked meal every day for the household.
Everyone's too tired/busy to cook a meal from scratch, so we are living on quick (though not nutritious) convenience foods, ready meals and snacks. Meals (if you can call them that), are blasted in a microwave for 3 minutes and ready to eat.
And we're giving this crappy, high carb, low nutrient food to our growing children. It's likely laying down fat cells in them young, which remain forever and make it easier to gain weight - as well as programming their brains to be addicted to fat and sugar.
When I was a kid there was no McDonalds. Those companies get to children young and made them addicts (fast food is literally addictive as crack cocaine to some brains). It was a special treat to have a take out meal like fish and chips or Chinese food. Mum and dad would treat us maybe once every few weeks. Now people seem to eat takeout several times a week. Many are cash rich, time poor - ie working long hours, therefore willing to pay for a cooked meal rather than buy ingredients and make it from scratch themselves, as they don't have time when they get home.
I also think we've become a society of snackers, constantly grazing on crisps/chips and candy. People are afraid of feeling hunger - that stomach rumbling sensation that tells you you need to eat soon, is perfectly natural and normal. It used to be called 'working up an appetite'. Then when you finally got to eat, you really enjoyed it!
Something radical must happen if we are ever going to turn back the clock. But I worry the genie is out of the bottle now, never to return. People today just don't have the time or inclination to eat better! It's very sad for the next generation who don't know any better.
@@glamdolly30 YES! Let me just add that the obesity epidemic you speak of really took off in the 1970's when food companies conspired to blame weight gain on "fat" instead of "sugar" and then started putting out "low in fat" or "no fat" products so that in buying these, people would actually think they were safe from piling on the pounds - NOT. It is a big fat lie, we all know nowadays that sugar is to blame for obesity and diabetes and heart disease etc but companies lied, sabotaged and swindled the american people. With the expansion of american fast food culture, epitomized by Burger King and McDonalds, the obesity epidemic as imported from the US, is a worldwide problem, a pandemic, in fact. In a country like Kuwait, on the persian gulf, the obesity rates have spiked and obesity is a growing health problem especially in children and the issue has been ascribed to the recent set up of Burger King and/or McDonalds in the country. I am not speaking as an american but as an european woman, this is a very serious matter and I can't help but cringe when I hear of "fat acceptance" - not for me, thanks.
@@KTR2022 You are 100% correct, full fat was painted as the bogyman - and animal fat was supposed to be the very devil, when in fact people got fat on convenience foods containing vegetable oil and the dreaded 'trans fats' which as you know are an artificially manufactured fat our bodies don't process easily.
I remember as a child my mother refused to give us real butter but instead insisted on margarine - she had an uncle who was a doctor and a leading light in the low fat fervour gripping Western nations. He got it totally wrong of course - natural animal fats like butter are not the enemy, but a natural, nutrient rich food - eaten in moderation. I eat butter today but not to excess - a little goes a long way. Margarine tastes vile and has as much nutritional value as face cream!
The real culprit as you say, was sugar/white refined carbs. And what do manufacturers put into low fat foods to replace the fat and make them taste palatable? Sugar of course. Many people got fat on a low fat diet!
@@glamdolly30 YES! Some of my family members keep buying these "low in fat" or "light" or "diet" products, they are seduced by the prospect of eating something very good and delicious without putting on weight. I have to remind them that the product boasts an absurd amount of sugar and won't do them any good. It will cause a great spike on their sugar levels and make them moody, anxious and hungry in two hours. People are being swindled, in America, in Europe, everywhere. I have, in the past two years, started a low sugar diet and I have since then felt repulsion towards sugary food and drinks - I feel sickened by them and not tempeted when I see other people eat them. There is a very logic answer to this: the less sugar you eat the less sugar you crave, sugar works in the brain as dopamine and drugs and that's how to get rid of it. I've revealed my magical formula to some people when they ask me how to stop sugar cravings, I tell them "if you want to stop craving sugar all you have to do is stop eating sugar" but they can't give it up. I confess that there was a time when I myself swapped butter for magarine but I was quite ignorant about trans fats at the time and I did it because I have a gut issue with dairy - it was a biiiig mistake and I got rid of it when I realised what I had in hands. Ignorance promotes obesity.
I absolutely love Steve’s reaction to the audience when they chuckle. So far the maternity nurse is the funniest exchange I’ve seen.
Cerf caught Ava's short laugh and identified her with his quick ear for voices.
Wow, long time no see and this was a fav show of mine just a few years ago ! Nice to have found it on my cell with no ado from my part.♥️
One more who says Ava Gardner was one of the most beautiful...if not THE most beautiful...of the Hollywood stars. And by all accounts one of the most real and down-to-earth women out there. I think her close friendship with Grace Kelly to be one of the more interesting ones; on the surface you would think they had absolutely nothing in common, but there must have been some common thread there because their friendship lasted for thirty years, until Grace's death.
hcombs0104:. In 1952/53 they were together in Africa with a Very difficult director John Ford, horrifically hot and humid weather, Sinatra's careen was in the toilet and Ava went to beg an obnoxious Harry Cohn of Columbia to get him the role of Maggio in From Here To Eternity, she stopped in London to have Sinatra's son aborted without telling him till later, she was sleeping with a couple of bullfighters from Spain, passionately in and out of love with Frank... with all that chaos she found a peaceful companion in Grace Kelly, who also slept with almost everyone with whom she ever made a movie, and there was sexual tension with Gable. By the way, Sinatra and Ava loved each other until her death, and Sinatra picked up the tab for all her medical and living expenses toward the end of her life. There are multiple sources documenting all of this... makes for some fascinating reading about some very complicated and people.
They were both very talented. They were acting geeks in addition to being gorgeous.
what a beauty! she really knows how to show her stunning great looks with each turn of the head
Ava Gardner was a very attractive lady who left us way too soon. Rest In Peace, and overdue condolences to the family for your loss. 😔💐
Ava Gardner had a classic beauty that can be found in some of the Greek statues! Her profile looks just like one of those timeless pieces of sculpture by the Greeks who almost worshipped beauty and the human body! Indeed, this little girl from North Carolina grew up to be an iconic beauty that has yet to be surpassed.
Look at that bone structure 😍
Ava was divinely beautiful and her life story was as"shocking" as even Confidential Magazine portrayed it. - A true she-cat hedonist. She said "I was beautiful but I had no morals." Well, a fine actress - more so than she's given credit for. A wonderful, smoky singing voice. - Sometimes I wonder what being perfectly beautiful can do to a woman's mind though. Look at Marilyn. - Goddesses pay a high price for being goddesses. And getting old is tough for every lady, pretty or not. I read a Kenneth Tynan piece where he visited her before her death. He said you couldn't tell it was Ava - just a grey little old woman. And she kept flipping through stacks of photo albums: "Wasn't I beautiful? Wasn't I beautiful?" Gosh.
+Gail Jarvis Yes, everything you say is true. For example, the magnificent Ava Gardiner was a serious drinker, and the destructive consequences of that habit made themselves painfully apparent only 6 or 7 years after this show was aired, by which time her legendary beauty had faded considerably.
+eoselan7 That's true, the drinking, and the irrepressible false confidence and unrealistic self-image that is fed by financial rewards, huge mansions, and being an inside member of the Hollywood clique of other gorgeous and frequently empty people. - Lately, I've noticed a bombardment of "never seen before" photos of M. Monroe. - I wonder that she ever found time to make a movie. When you are worshiped for your transitory beauty, and locked into what you see in the mirror, the future is your enemy. What a price to pay.
+Cassie Miller Right you are. In fact, don't we all place too much importance on beauty? Still, what I see "on the streets" is very different from what I see when I pick up a mag-rag, which I avoid doing. - Go to the supermarket and you get bombarded by anorectic out of wedlock floozies, (which is a kind word). Makes me harden back to the time when the news was news, not the recent flashes of bottom and bosom.
Ava Gardner was an original. No one else like her. Fine actress too. She belittled her talent. Thanks to classic, "old" movies, we can come to appreciate that. Thank you for the comment.
No matter how beautiful a woman is considered by her public, I've never seen one who didn't point out some flaw they felt that they had when they were interviewed on the subject of their attractiveness, even when they were in their prime.
With society equating so much of a woman's value with her beauty, no wonder we tend to get so concerned with anything that we feel detracts from it. Either that or we reach a point where we throw up our hands and say "the heck with it."
Gail Jarvis - that’s sad
This show is frickin’ delightful! I found myself laughing along more than once.
Ava had those "flashlight" type eyes (she knew it) and turned them on and off as needed (notice how see uses them on John Daily as see sits down)
Simply stunning! Very soft spoken and seemed like a nice person as well.
Ava Gardner and Hedy Lamarr were the two most Beautiful Women in Hollywood.
Show stopper. Year before I was born. A much more gentile time when people treated one another with dignity.
Ava gardner the most beautiful woman that ever existed
Vivian Leigh and Hedy Lamarr was the drop dead Scarletts.
Steve was 32 years young when this was aired.
Steve Allen: "Are you a doll?" !!!
What a dear person Steve was! and so clever, funny and talented! WONDERFUL composer and pianist, too!
And, David, Bennett Cerf was SO erudite, witty and charming, don't you think? I found a quote of his today that I think you will appreciate: "The Detroit String Quartet played Brahms last night. Brahms lost." (!!!) 😊😊😊
Not your fault, since this is so widely misquoted: Bennett didn't coin this phrase; he merely collected it in one of his books of anecdotes. Original version: "A Detroit music reviewer contributed this phrase: 'The Blank String Quartet played Brahms last night. Brahms lost.'"
Sounds like he was a snob and a bore...
THAT DRESS AND AVA GARDNER WERE MADE FOR EACH OTHER
Wonderful actress ! When they ask her “are you glad” talking about her marriage at 19:21, Ava doesn’t answer and doesn’t seem really happy...
Leilita Leilita because Sinatra and her was sperate at that time and about to divorce. They declarated their speratin end of the year..
Stunning Ava!
Ava Gardner is gorgeous, beyond gorgeous. I'm so glad this is available because it's the first time she was on TV, maybe the only time. Not sure. It's too bad John didn't let her talk because I wanted to hear more of Ava and less of John. At 17:42 Ava looks right into the camera - cool. She was near sighted.
He always talks too much. Loves the sound of his own voice. And answers too many questions for the guests as if its so important…lol…
Without doubt the most beautiful woman whoever graced the earth.
Hmmm. She certainly is very beautiful, but there are other contenders for the most beautiful, and it's really a matter of individual taste. I speak as a man.
Rita Hayworth, Kim Novak, to mention but two.
Stone-Cold, Drop-Dead, Total knockout, she'd make a blind man look twice !! --------------------WolfSky9, 71 y/o
My beautiful Granddaughter was named for her and it fits! ❤️
I always had the impression that Ava Gardner was more full figured, but on this show she was very slim and petite.