Lucas Model 31 Horizontal Boring Mill - Removing the Table from the Bed
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2022
- Lucas Model 31 Horizontal Boring Mill - Removing the Table from the Bed
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I do love watching these big old machines come back to life!
Always love to see Keith produce an obscure and seldom used tool that's perfect for the job at hand. Never fails.
That machine looks way ahead of its time. You would think it was designed in the 40's or 50's. When I heard 1918, I was surprised...
Good morning, Keith. It's always a pleasure when I see you have uploaded a new video.
One thing I would like to mention - the location of your microphone means that as you turn your head from left to right while talking, the loudness of your voice changes drastically. Perhaps try pinning the mic in a central location? Or if it has a setting to make it less directional?
Anyway, it's a minor thing, and I always enjoy your content. On with the video, here's hoping the ways have minimal wear!
Jebus Martha YES!!! MOVE THE MIC, PLEASE!!!
Keith, I know you have more than one mic - so how about using another one on the other side of your apron - so your right mic is connected to the left audio channel and the left mic connected to the right audio channel - then we'll get wonderful stereo the right way round for watching your vids !
Always happy to wake up to a new Keith Rucker video.
Watching this get prettier and more precise will be a treat.
Fun to watch you take these huge metal puzzles apart! Love how careful and methodical you are. These tools have died and gone to machine heaven!
Good luck getting it back on.
Keith, I'm sure others have commented on this already, but it seems that you've got a narrowly focused directional lav mic there. The audio all but dies out when you turn your head away from it. No bueno. I'm gonna give a shout out to an American fella who hand builds his own mics and sells them for ridiculously cheap: Darren Nemeth of Giant Squid Audio Lab Company. He makes omnidirectional and cardioid lav mics in both mono and stereo configurations. $35 + $5 shipping in the US. He customized a couple for me with specific cord lengths per my request for mounting in my motorcycle helmets. They work great, and Darren is very accommodating. Cool guy.
13:23 A little stubborn? - I remember a philosophy of Brian Block's - "If at first you don't succeed, use a bigger hammer!" Well not quite the same case here, but you get my drift? lol. Hard to take in how old this machine is - from the 1800's ! She has stood the test of time for sure! Thank you for sharing, Keith.
Or in Brian's case, a bigger hammer drill - like the one he broke his floor with - and the drill !
It's interesting on these older boring mills how small the head is. I imagine all of the speeds and feeds were generated in a separate gear box (or gear boxes) and the head only needed to support the spindle and elevating leadscrew nut. I have a 1970's era Wotan boring mill and the head is quite large by comparison. All of the speeds and feeds are generated in the head itself and by necessity it must be large. I too, am in the process of rebuilding it. It is a very slow process. Ken
We have this same HBM at Southern California Railway Museum Machine Shop and I am very excited to watch this restoration. This is one of my personal favorite machines in the shop.
Reassembly is going to be interesting
8:35 scraps of old carpet help a lot with those kinds of thing
Great content Keith,thanks for the video🤗😎🤗😎
I assume you have played back and can hear your volume ramp up and down depending on the direction you turn your head, maybe centering your mic may resolve? But the omnidirectional gain is all over the place.
thanks keith
These machine are lost in a time long gone were there operators produced some of the finest parts for needy industry. The quality of these machines is something to admire simple set ups and low costs compared to todays CNC machines that have more demands in their operation before a single part can be produced. Await the next installment to breathing life back to this old master piece.
Cool project! I should thank you more often for what you do here on youtube. You are a great inspiration. Cheers from minnesota.
Oak Grove MN here.
Thank You !
Hi The sound is little bit of lack its go up and down then you turn yore head then you talk. Thank for a nice video
I've never done this kind of work but I take great pleasure in seeing you restoring these great machines. Thank you!
Really loving the Lucas videos, reminds me I've gotta put some work into mine this summer lol
Great video Keith, thanks for posting.
Really enjoy your videos. One suggestion I would make is on your gantry you ensure your wheels are going the direction you want to move the table in. It will make it a whole lot easier for you to move it. We use to move a 10000 lb centrifuge bowl with a gantry and we had to be very aware of the wheel direction.
Good point. Heavy casters often had flats for a big wrench or a stub of round stock to slip a pipe over to turn the wheels when loaded. Especially handy if the floor wasn't perfect.
Hey Keith. I was down in Tifton on Saturday playing music for the Barbecue festival downtown. Wish I had time to visit the museum, but it didn't work out. Love your channel.
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀
Thanks for sharing! Great work!
Great video Keith, keep'um coming..
Great looking machine and I can't wait to see it running. Some of the marks on the side of table are down right impressive. Impressive they could get a cutter over far enough to make those cuts in the table.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Great show today!
good job keith
Thanks, Keith
Always very interesting Keith thanks for sharing 👍
machines that built the world being given a second chance at life, brakes my heart to think of how many of these old machines have been scrapped, both my mill and lathe are older than i am and im 64. both are in my opinion better than the modern gear i have seen
Fascinating machine. From back in the day experience, I will suggest that the drive rods should have stayed with the table. i.e. pull the gib(s) and the three taper pins, push the table a few inches , lift it free and pull the rods later. I will also mention a technique I've used, to add a couple of turnbuckles between the hoist and the strap. Then you can lift precisely level if you need to. Less chance of bending something.
That may be the best way to reassemble too.
@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 Exactly. Trying to pin the rods to the base and then negotiate them back into the table would be a nightmare.
I'd tend to agree but Keith may well have decided to do it that way with a view to separating the parts for cleaning but yes the drive shafts could have been lifted off with the table.
As for 'precisely level', he'd got the lift correct but failed to use the OBVIOUS levelling screw sticking out of the end of the table ;) (Front to back, there was more table/cross slide to the back. Bringing that forward an inch or so would have levelled up the hang.
I was wondering if there was a risk of bending the rods or the screw doing this.. and, it seems like, for such a heavy machine, it might be possible to detach them at the gearbox & remove them through the table, before removing the table.. but I have never gotten that close to one of these..
@@windrk_6754 IIRC through is not possible because of the gearing. What I remember is lots of penetrating oil, lots of swearing and a big mechanic eventually just pulling them out of the table assembly.
You can see the wear in the center of the ways. It looks substantial.
Hiya Keith
Hi Keith, When you face the wall the sound bounces and it is much louder as you turn your head away the audio drops significantly. I am not sure what you can do about it. I have noticed over the last months the audio is not as clear as used to be. At times it sounds as though you are talking with gum in your mouth. Roger
The box ways are very similar to the ways I planned on the turret lathes. The front side had a rack seat and a gib
rail to be planned as well. The headstock and the bed way were all one casting. You had to pay attention to the length of the stroke so as not to hit the headstock. They made turret lathes with "A" type ways but I never got involved with them .
Keith I note when you turn your head towards camera the sounds dulls down, maybe splitting the mic channel so you have two mics on your apron bib. ( I know a never ending hassle ) This is an observation and hint not a criticism in any manner. I love your history lessens.
Keith, I really appreciate you and your videos, but the sound since you introduced the new mic just isn't doing you justice. It is hard to enjoy when the audio fades in and out🤨
HI Keith, never put your Porta power extentions on the ram end, always put them on the body. You are far more likely to bend the ram. Don't ask me how I know :)
G’day Keith I have a similar HBM when I serviced my table I found it easier to leave the rods in the table made it easier to re install.
Not too keen on your new microphone.
GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, LETS GO TO WORK...I AM READY...
Keith looks left, sound level good.
Keith looks right, what'd he say ?
Move the mic to center of bib pocket.
I agree with another viewer when you reassembled the unit put the rods in the table first.
So, if I understand this correctly, the more comments a YT channel receives, the more favorable the YT algorithm is towards that channel. I don’t always have a question or observation for your videos, but since I a big fan, don’t be surprised if you start seeing lots of “COMMENTs” in the future.
you need to mount a bar between both legs of your lift so you can push on it and move both sides at the same time ,it might help
FYI when you look to your right the Mic level drops real low. Just thought you would like to know
Like the video
Could that upcoming job be the steam stoker engine?
Mr. Keith Rucker can you please tell me what flashlight you had sitting on the machine in the video toward the end? Love your vids
I know that in the past you have used enamel paint on at least some of your machines. Will that be your choice for this one? Is enamel paint your favorite and would you recommend it?
Just a note, the mike you are using is VERY directional. The volume of your voice changes about two times depending if you have your head turned toward the mike or away from it. Hard when using headphone to listing to your video. You didn't have this issue previously.
I don't know if anyone has pointed it out but your audio has been shoddy lately. It goes in and out drastically when you turn your head and your pop filter is on the mic is not doing its job. Love the videos. Keep them coming.
It's because the mic he's using is a directional mic which would be fine if he was a reporter and his head didn't turn. But, because Keith tends to turn his head quite a bit, he needs a lapel mic with at least 90 degree pickup.
@@joshuablair6120 Sorry but why did you feel the need to give me a explanation to a statement I made to him? I never asked why and if I did I was clearly talking to him.
I've noticed that as well. I have commented on this on other videos; hopefully, Keith remedies the issue in the near future.
Has the Stoker Engine project been abandoned?
Do you have the tailstock?
Love your videos Keith, but I need to point out that your microphone is not serving you well. The audio fades to inaudible levels when you turn your head away from the mic. The audio varies from excellent when you speak towards the side the mic is attached to very low levels when speaking away from the mic. When audible the audio quality is very good. Thought you should know.
Did KR tell us what this Lucas 31 was initially used for?
Will you be draw filing the flats to get them close?
Was wondering what was taking so long. Then I went through your play list and saw how many projects you’ve had silmutaneously… you must be sleeping in your shop!
Looking forward to more!
Keith question how is it gowning with the Steam Stoker engine?
I suspect it's needing the attention of a horizontal boring mill ! Hence this video !
That looked like a very heavy table.
Hi Keith - thanks for filming another great project! What do you figure the table weighs? I'm guessing it's nothing less than 800 lbs and probably a good bit more. Best regards from your southernmost viewer in the continental US.
Capt. Blackheart Charlie
Key West
What happened with the stroker engine?
KIETH: That new mike setup is way too directional. When you speak with your head turned to the right the audio dies. Can you reposition the lav mike to a more central location? Perhaps, change the mike settings to omni directional from directional?? Or both! As it is currently set up, its really painful to listen to. many thanks.
Any news on the Steam Stoker Engine, Keith?
I am aware that you are working on some audio issues. FYI, the microphone you are wearing in this video is very directional. When you turn away from it the volume drops significantly. Overall, the audio on this video is very unbalanced. Also, of the various audio unit/microphone combinations you have used recently, your original setup seems to have produced the cleanest, most balanced audio. One man's observation/opinion.
The fun part will be when you install the table to the machine
Audio volume is still coming and going, depending on whether you are looking to the left or right. :-(
the sound sucks again, each time you turn your head away from the mike you become hard to hear.
Keith. What color did you decide to paint it with?
That’s heavy kit but if you have the equipment it no problem 👴🏻👍
You’ll need a second person to help put it back on?
I’ve noticed that since you started using your directional microphone the volume goes up and down when you move your head around. While the directional mic sounds really good when you are talking right in to it, the changes in volume make it difficult for me to listen. I’m partially deaf so I have to use headphones.
@@ralphgesler5110 yes, I watch every one of them. I really like his videos.
Just curious, what do you suppose that table weighs/
1918 end of WW1.
Would the HBM have been used on artillery barrels?
really appreciate your efforts providing this free content, i have enjoyed your content for a long time. but this new microphone setup is making it unbearable to listen to you.
Amazing that you can practically use something from the 18 and early 1900's today. Wish my car would last that long. Wait! Wish I can last that long! :)
Keith, the audio keeps fading in and out as you turn your head...
Is it just me or does that new mic suck, it's WAY too directional.
Should be a piece of cake to take your auto collimatior and map out those bedways to tell you what you are dealing with.
What ever happened to the stoker engine?
I suspect the Stoker Engine is the primary reason this Lucas HBM is being brought to some degree of precision function... just a guess.
Keith, please put your mic in the center of your bib. Every time you turn to look at the camera, we lose you... This is the second or third video where the volume bounces from 2 to 8 and back again... Thanks.
That load looks way of center in the slings.
It certainly won't be easy to get the table back into place on the three shafts.
Easy to fix with the built in adjusting screw.
@@millomweb One would think, yet it's hanging way off to our right.
I'm not there so I have no idea why Keith pulled it off like that.
I suppose he had a reason.
@@jimurrata6785 "Inexpertise".
He's a lovely fella and I'd have him as a granddad any day but he has gaps in his brain. I've seen him turning and supposed to be using the tailstock but he fails to get it fully pressed against the end of the work. Some people are just like that have apparent mental blocks. Still, what hid did was successful and safe.
Keith, you really need to change the location of your mic. When you are talking and turn your head to the right the audio is very weak. When you turn your head to the left the audio is almost too loud. JUST SAYING.
it'd be funny to make it extremely extremely precise
You must have the most understanding Wife....or the opposite and you don't want to spend time with Her.
BFT!
How the heck are you going to put it back on?
magic
Very very carefully!
All these have that scaring from where somebody let the machine go for a minute and the bit chews up the table. .... LOL... Somebody probably got fired every one of those chew marks.
But Boss, nobody did anything if they didn't do a mistake; Boss: this is not UA-cam, door's over there, bye.
Gib is a word whose nonexistence I would have heretofore insisted on. Can't get used to it, for some reason.
Newer machine probably would take three times as long to take down the table.
is it just me or is the audio all over the place?
When are ya gonna be able to get back on the stoker engine?
Sound is not as good as it used to be.
I'm dizzy. Every time you moved your head to the right while talking the mic didn't pick up well, and your voice dropped off some.
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