On a positive note, the defense actually tried to will a win today. Something is going on internally though, from week one until now, the team as a whole has looked disinterested, slow and sloppy. Players aren’t responding and my bet is that something political is going on from the top brass with Deshaun and the players are aware of it. It is difficult to describe but the play on the field is indicative of internal dysfunction of some sort. Cheers and good stream!
Got this in my liked videos. Listening to some music i must have liked after this one. Sitting here digging the music not knowing it's the intro😂 went to look at what it was and was mad confused. Cheers mate. This is awesome content
Stefanski is a former Coach of the Year who took us to the playoffs with Flacco off the retirement couch! You tryna tell me he watches Watson play QB and decide he give us the best chance to win??? 😂
Totally agree. Sadly the Indians owner went W.O.K.E. and changed their name. I still wear my Indians attire with pride and hope someone says something about it. Always ready!!!!
@chrisc3118 it's been all down hill since the started letting the blacks play. Slippery slope. This woke shit started with Jesse Owens at the Olympics.
I get what Stefanski is doing. He's always given his guys enough rope to hang themselves. I also understand that at this point, from an organizational standpoint looking to next year, we'd be better off "tanking" with Watson than bringing in Jameis and finishing with 6-8 wins. The issue with doing that is that Stef would irreversibly lose the locker room. He's in a tough spot and is going to have to balance the pressure from the front office and ownership with the pressure coming from the players. My guess is he continues to play Watson until the Bye week (3 more losses, yay!), then benches him. From there we'll coast with Jameis through 7 meaningless games. The only benefit to those final weeks is that we can actually evaluate the Dorsey offense and decide if Jameis and/or DTR can be a bridge QB for next year.
@@chrisc3118 does that even matter at this point? They obviously aren't going undefeated so that means playoffs are off the table. At this stage it's just about evaluating the rest of the roster and seeing what picks we end up with next year.
Clean house with all of them at the end of season. Time for a new start 😢😢. Keep Watson and Draft a QB. We have a team that will be attrective for alot of coaches or just make Vrabel the coach and new offensive coordinator. It could be a quick turnaround if Haskem acts now and see what happens, its too costly to just drop Watson plus this year it doesn't matter. Fire Stafanski and or the OC now...
Yup, just promote Vrabel because he will actually hold his players accountable and hire a real OC/Play Caller. They need to also fire DePodesta or Vrabel might not take the job.
@@roris5882He got fired from Tennessee because he failed to hold his OC accountable 😂. And he has similar winning percentage as Stefanski. Watson Warriors, like the massage enthusiast himself, continue to fail at looking at what's in front of them.
Terrible utilization of what talent we do have on offense. Terrible play calling in crunch times like 3rd down. Over thinking themselves rather than just run a normal play, ect, ect, ect...
People who complain about other players have to understand that until the qb is accountable no one else on the team will play good unless they are very professional
I disagree with your views.. I recall Watson get into his lineman for missing a block a Watson got kill over it by sports coverage. If you seen Watson interview after the game he told you who is the problem. A quarterback isn't going to go from 4,000 plus season to this crap. It's coaching point blank.
Wait are you Canadian? Forgive me if that’s a stupid question but I just found your channel and subbed. I like to think of Cleveland as southern Canada anyway 😂.
Okay we get it Watson sucks! But was it his fault that Stefanski called an end around to Tillman on a crucial 3rd down ? Was it his fault that the offensive line got 2 false starts while he drove them into the red zone to be in position to win the game??? Stefanski should be held just as accountable.
@@amkrajc lmao Watson does not have the equity to start changing the play call. Thats earned only after you start having some success on the team you are on.
@@Will71254 Remember when Bernie got benched for that because Belichick wanted to run the ball up the middle, with Metcalf, on 3rd and 7 and punt because he was a conservative defensive coach?
The Browns better fire Stefanski and promote Mike Vrabel if they want to start holding their players accountable. Stefanski is too soft to do it and he is too busy trying to be an outdated OC/Play Caller, that can't string 2 good games together, instead of a Head Coach. The team has too much talent to be this bad.
As average as his numbers were from yesterday they were actually even worse. People don't even realize he got 35 yd to Cooper on his final drive then a little dump off to pier strong that went over 20 yd. Take away either one of those plays and look at his overall numbers. Again I've watched this game live and I've rewatched it twice so far. It's so much worse than the actual stat line it's disgusting! He missed so many throws and walked into so many defenders it's unbelievable!
So Newsome and Emerson combined aren’t as good as Ward. Why has Berry refused to address the Mike LB position that would help out JOK even more. Myles Garrett doesn’t need another great defensive end to help him out. He needs a really good 3-tech that is an every down player. TJ Watt wouldn’t have the stats he does w/out Cam Heyward. All of the offensive assistants besides Deuce Staley needs to fired.
Its going to eventually be down to Watson or Stafanski hitting the road if this continues. Im betting its Stafanski going. Alot of what is wrong i blame on poor leadership from the coaches.
There has been zero consistency with Stefanski as head coach. Only 1 out of 3 seasons is a winning one. He wanted a QB that doesn't fit his system, so he can deal with the consequences.
Something needs to change, and I think it starts with a trade involving Cooper. This will likely happen after the loss to Cincinnati. And you’re absolutely right: we can’t be playing Dardan when we have someone like Thrash available! Also, it has to be said, there was a clear holding on Smith’s touchdown. Calls like that always go against the Browns.
Cooper does not want to be a Cleveland Brown. He’s only hanging around for his $20,000,000 a year paycheck. Next year, he will abandon the Browns to go somewhere else via Free Agency. Better to trade him NOW, and get something for him in return, then wait till the end of the year and get nothing when he abandons the team and abandons the fans. As I said: Cooper does not want to be in Cleveland. It shows.
Final comment…Tom Brady was able to be “confident” and “control his team” because Belichick created a culture where there was zero tolerance for mistakes like fumbles and false starts. Its starts with the coaching staff not the QB. Stefanski is a little bit too much koombaya.
Stop being such a Watson fanboy. I've seen all of your comments. All you want to do is defend Watsons horrible play. He has been good. Period. Offense score 9 points yesterday and has scored 20 points once all season long.
@@kiaadams104 Watson has been playing like trash. Im not here to defend him. Everyone just wants to say “oh he’s washed” like this guy just became bad out of no where. The reason he sucks is because the Browns suck.
Your opinion on Stefanski is completely upside down. He sucks. He always sucked. The COTY awards are nonsense and hold zero weight. AB sucks. DePo sucks. Dorsey was a token hire and not used and you wanna blame him?! 😂
Watson looked better playing under AVP as OC. The way this offense tries to set up plays downfield looks like somebody is playing madden and they expect you to just hit the throw button at the exact time you are supposed to. You need an OC to call plays under the assumption that the offensive line will not hold at all. You also need it to be simple for the QB where if the first read is not there then Watson needs to just run and get any progress.
Terrible utilization of what talent we do have on offense. Terrible play calling in crunch times like 3rd down. Over thinking themselves rather than just run a normal play, ect, ect, ect...
Maybe that's why Stefanski fired AVP because he was threatened by him taking over play calling. Then Stefanski replaced AVP with Dorsey, who isn't a threat.
@@RawDollar Exactly, plus it was AVP that won that playoff game with Baker, while Stefanski was sitting on his couch with Covid. AVP should have taken over play calling, but then the ownership would have realized Stefanski is just getting in the way. It's not like he holds his players accountable or anything a head coach is supposed to do.
Around the 47 minute mark no way this guy just said Martin Emerson and Greg newsome are good young talent, this is proof that the browns will be committing to a FULL rebuild very soon doing things like trading Garrett and ward while also letting Chubb walk in FA and firing every single staff member, Some browns fans just can’t handle the truth
Get ready to watch Deshaun start the rest of the year. Changing to Winston won't make anything better like you assume it will. If you can't see the Browns problems are bigger than Deshaun then you truly just don't understand. Stefanski has never won anything besides pointless COY awards and is a .500 coach. Way to hang on to mediocrity Cleveland fans.
What I saw today is several second and third string players on the field especially for the offense and I saw a team who was going to go ahead but mistakes by those second and third stringers and 1 or 2 by vets gave the Eagles the victory. The play calling did not lose the game and neither did Watson's play. Stefanski is our most winning HC since the Browns returned. Give him the right players and Stefanski will do well. They need to stick with him but Haslam will get mad and blame him for everything. Then the team will be looking for HCs every 1 or 2 years for who knows how long.
We have to bench Watson to see. I cannot judge the offense or play calling as long as Watson is starting. We know the offense can be good. It's mentally defeating to watch Watson miss open plays that could be tds.
Just promote Vrabel and fire Stefanski, DePodesta, and Berry if he wants another GM. Enough is enough of this inconsistentcy. They can't string 2 winning seasons together.
Sounds like you’re also blaming it all on Watson … 😂 You’re saying the rest of the team and staff is also terrible but still putting it on him … Dudes put the team in position to win the last 2 games … A penalty.. A drop .. A Called back TD .. Horrible play calls from Kevin on 3-1 to stop momentum… Missed FGs …. Clock management…. All that’s a factor how you grade Watson … Yall want him to make magic where it’s not simply because of how much The GM and Owners chose to play him …. STEFANSKI IS THE ISSUE ….
You may need to watch the film. The play calling is decent. It's just watson isn't going to open wr. His bad play is truly affecting the wide outs and defense. It's depressing for me to watch the game. I can only imagine how the team feels.
As he shuffles to the bank each week with that "I don't give a sh$t" look on his face. Man is evil. You are reaping what you have sown Cleveland. Sold your soul for Football Jesus. Instead, got Football Judas!
The same will happen with Stefanski. In the second half Watson looked much better and a penalty here and a penalty there lost the game for the Browns, They really were not outplayed by the Eagles for the victory.
I would make a bet that watson will not succeed on another team. Nobody will want him after this. I'm sort of blown away people considered him a top 3 qb in the NFL. He was good in garbage games. My only sincere issue with the coaching... that they are keeping him in there. Then letting baker go after he had a bad season with a season ending injury with his shoulder. I think coaching will succeed once they get rid of Watson.
@@amkrajc people said the same thing about Baker, Geno, and Darnold. Baker went to Carolina and was still terrible. He went to the Rams and looked better. Now he is in Tampa and is playing great. The culture and environment are huge factors. Thats why cleveland will never win
@RawDollar I honestly felt Baker was going to be good once he settled in an offense. I think Baker played under 4 play callers while in cleveland. With Watson, I just don't believe, that he believes in himself. I just don't see Watson being good anywhere. He could prove me wrong.
I kind of figured the offensive line would regress after Callahan left but I didn't think it would be this bad.
On a positive note, the defense actually tried to will a win today. Something is going on internally though, from week one until now, the team as a whole has looked disinterested, slow and sloppy. Players aren’t responding and my bet is that something political is going on from the top brass with Deshaun and the players are aware of it. It is difficult to describe but the play on the field is indicative of internal dysfunction of some sort. Cheers and good stream!
Video quality top notch
He’s always delivering. Very fortunate ❤☝️
Got this in my liked videos. Listening to some music i must have liked after this one. Sitting here digging the music not knowing it's the intro😂 went to look at what it was and was mad confused. Cheers mate. This is awesome content
Dude what kind of intro music is that I love it❤❤❤
Stefanski is a former Coach of the Year who took us to the playoffs with Flacco off the retirement couch! You tryna tell me he watches Watson play QB and decide he give us the best chance to win??? 😂
You’re still
Talking about the meaningless coach of the year? He’s a shitty coach.
Love your telecast. Good reasonable logic support your thoughts.😊
Your show is great my brother except don't give stefanski a pass this season play calling is just as bad as Watson's play. Both are horrendous.
They are and will always be the TRIBE/INDIANS to me!
Lets Go TRIBE!
Totally agree. Sadly the Indians owner went W.O.K.E. and changed their name. I still wear my Indians attire with pride and hope someone says something about it. Always ready!!!!
@chrisc3118 it's been all down hill since the started letting the blacks play. Slippery slope. This woke shit started with Jesse Owens at the Olympics.
@chrisc3118 tough guy eh?
0 points, 0 third down conversions, and less than 200 yards
I get what Stefanski is doing. He's always given his guys enough rope to hang themselves. I also understand that at this point, from an organizational standpoint looking to next year, we'd be better off "tanking" with Watson than bringing in Jameis and finishing with 6-8 wins. The issue with doing that is that Stef would irreversibly lose the locker room. He's in a tough spot and is going to have to balance the pressure from the front office and ownership with the pressure coming from the players.
My guess is he continues to play Watson until the Bye week (3 more losses, yay!), then benches him. From there we'll coast with Jameis through 7 meaningless games. The only benefit to those final weeks is that we can actually evaluate the Dorsey offense and decide if Jameis and/or DTR can be a bridge QB for next year.
I seriously doubt the Browns will win another game this year.
@@chrisc3118 does that even matter at this point? They obviously aren't going undefeated so that means playoffs are off the table. At this stage it's just about evaluating the rest of the roster and seeing what picks we end up with next year.
Several penalties cost the Browns the game today.
But it didn't have to. This game shouldn't have been close. There were tds left on the field because watson cannot seem to find the open wide outs.
Clean house with all of them at the end of season. Time for a new start 😢😢. Keep Watson and Draft a QB. We have a team that will be attrective for alot of coaches or just make Vrabel the coach and new offensive coordinator. It could be a quick turnaround if Haskem acts now and see what happens, its too costly to just drop Watson plus this year it doesn't matter. Fire Stafanski and or the OC now...
Yup, just promote Vrabel because he will actually hold his players accountable and hire a real OC/Play Caller. They need to also fire DePodesta or Vrabel might not take the job.
@@roris5882He got fired from Tennessee because he failed to hold his OC accountable 😂. And he has similar winning percentage as Stefanski. Watson Warriors, like the massage enthusiast himself, continue to fail at looking at what's in front of them.
The Browns over their last 11 games including the end of last season and preseason are 1-10. Get it yet?
Please sell the team
Terrible utilization of what talent we do have on offense. Terrible play calling in crunch times like 3rd down. Over thinking themselves rather than just run a normal play, ect, ect, ect...
People who complain about other players have to understand that until the qb is accountable no one else on the team will play good unless they are very professional
I disagree with your views.. I recall Watson get into his lineman for missing a block a Watson got kill over it by sports coverage. If you seen Watson interview after the game he told you who is the problem. A quarterback isn't going to go from 4,000 plus season to this crap. It's coaching point blank.
i agree!! with u
Watson is missing wide open WR..go look at film. Coaching might not be great but the biggest problem is Watson.
@@kiaadams104 yeah I agree he did the first half but the second half he was a lot better wasn’t he not?
@@Fresh20031 half of decent football versus 6 games of garbage. Yay. Watson Warriors are worse than Bker Bros at this point.
Wait are you Canadian? Forgive me if that’s a stupid question but I just found your channel and subbed. I like to think of Cleveland as southern Canada anyway 😂.
Okay we get it Watson sucks! But was it his fault that Stefanski called an end around to Tillman on a crucial 3rd down ? Was it his fault that the offensive line got 2 false starts while he drove them into the red zone to be in position to win the game??? Stefanski should be held just as accountable.
QB can make changes on the line. Which Watson sucks at.
@@amkrajc lmao Watson does not have the equity to start changing the play call. Thats earned only after you start having some success on the team you are on.
@@Will71254 Remember when Bernie got benched for that because Belichick wanted to run the ball up the middle, with Metcalf, on 3rd and 7 and punt because he was a conservative defensive coach?
The Browns better fire Stefanski and promote Mike Vrabel if they want to start holding their players accountable. Stefanski is too soft to do it and he is too busy trying to be an outdated OC/Play Caller, that can't string 2 good games together, instead of a Head Coach. The team has too much talent to be this bad.
I don't understand their thinking they have a 2 time coach of the year but his system isn't good enough for this qb? Ridiculous
As average as his numbers were from yesterday they were actually even worse. People don't even realize he got 35 yd to Cooper on his final drive then a little dump off to pier strong that went over 20 yd. Take away either one of those plays and look at his overall numbers. Again I've watched this game live and I've rewatched it twice so far. It's so much worse than the actual stat line it's disgusting! He missed so many throws and walked into so many defenders it's unbelievable!
So Newsome and Emerson combined aren’t as good as Ward. Why has Berry refused to address the Mike LB position that would help out JOK even more. Myles Garrett doesn’t need another great defensive end to help him out. He needs a really good 3-tech that is an every down player. TJ Watt wouldn’t have the stats he does w/out Cam Heyward. All of the offensive assistants besides Deuce Staley needs to fired.
Its going to eventually be down to Watson or Stafanski hitting the road if this continues. Im betting its Stafanski going. Alot of what is wrong i blame on poor leadership from the coaches.
There has been zero consistency with Stefanski as head coach. Only 1 out of 3 seasons is a winning one. He wanted a QB that doesn't fit his system, so he can deal with the consequences.
I'd rather keep KS. Let Watson walk.
Its a combination of things why the browns suck watson is a big part of it no doubt but play calling is ridiculous.
Watson just needs to shake off the rust. Have you seen his Houston footage?
Something needs to change, and I think it starts with a trade involving Cooper. This will likely happen after the loss to Cincinnati. And you’re absolutely right: we can’t be playing Dardan when we have someone like Thrash available! Also, it has to be said, there was a clear holding on Smith’s touchdown. Calls like that always go against the Browns.
Cooper does not want to be a Cleveland Brown. He’s only hanging around for his $20,000,000 a year paycheck. Next year, he will abandon the Browns to go somewhere else via Free Agency. Better to trade him NOW, and get something for him in return, then wait till the end of the year and get nothing when he abandons the team and abandons the fans. As I said: Cooper does not want to be in Cleveland. It shows.
Final comment…Tom Brady was able to be “confident” and “control his team” because Belichick created a culture where there was zero tolerance for mistakes like fumbles and false starts. Its starts with the coaching staff not the QB. Stefanski is a little bit too much koombaya.
Stop being such a Watson fanboy. I've seen all of your comments. All you want to do is defend Watsons horrible play. He has been good. Period. Offense score 9 points yesterday and has scored 20 points once all season long.
@@kiaadams104 Watson has been playing like trash. Im not here to defend him. Everyone just wants to say “oh he’s washed” like this guy just became bad out of no where. The reason he sucks is because the Browns suck.
Stop it. He was bad his last year in Houston too.
@@silversoulken that just shows you dont even watch football. His last year in Houston was his best of his career.
Great take...Fat g bush is awful to listen to ....glad you are doing what you do ..
Kool aid is not for everyone 😂
I concur I don't like g bushes takes, they all seem to be race based.
It’s late, but I’m in the 3 camp. He’s better than the replacement.
Give DTR experience now!
Your opinion on Stefanski is completely upside down. He sucks. He always sucked. The COTY awards are nonsense and hold zero weight. AB sucks. DePo sucks. Dorsey was a token hire and not used and you wanna blame him?! 😂
Boycott the games
Next week might turn into BottleGate2.0
Bro must not have heard how baker was getting down while he was in Cleveland lol bro was wildin wasn’t SA though to be fair
still had offensive issues that year
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Watson looked better playing under AVP as OC. The way this offense tries to set up plays downfield looks like somebody is playing madden and they expect you to just hit the throw button at the exact time you are supposed to. You need an OC to call plays under the assumption that the offensive line will not hold at all.
You also need it to be simple for the QB where if the first read is not there then Watson needs to just run and get any progress.
Terrible utilization of what talent we do have on offense. Terrible play calling in crunch times like 3rd down. Over thinking themselves rather than just run a normal play, ect, ect, ect...
Maybe that's why Stefanski fired AVP because he was threatened by him taking over play calling. Then Stefanski replaced AVP with Dorsey, who isn't a threat.
@@roris5882 come to think of it…what kind of a coach fires their OC after a successful season going 11-6?
@@RawDollar Exactly, plus it was AVP that won that playoff game with Baker, while Stefanski was sitting on his couch with Covid. AVP should have taken over play calling, but then the ownership would have realized Stefanski is just getting in the way. It's not like he holds his players accountable or anything a head coach is supposed to do.
@@roris5882it was the special teams coach as HC for the 2020 wild card win, but AVP calling plays. Still, fair enough point.
I wonder motivated the receivers are with being coached by their assistant female wide receiver 🤦🏽♂️
Around the 47 minute mark no way this guy just said Martin Emerson and Greg newsome are good young talent, this is proof that the browns will be committing to a FULL rebuild very soon doing things like trading Garrett and ward while also letting Chubb walk in FA and firing every single staff member, Some browns fans just can’t handle the truth
Martin Emerson and Greg Newsome would be a CB1 on about 25% of teams in the league
@@optimisticfanclub bro do you hear yourself rn😭😭😭
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Get ready to watch Deshaun start the rest of the year. Changing to Winston won't make anything better like you assume it will. If you can't see the Browns problems are bigger than Deshaun then you truly just don't understand. Stefanski has never won anything besides pointless COY awards and is a .500 coach. Way to hang on to mediocrity Cleveland fans.
What I saw today is several second and third string players on the field especially for the offense and I saw a team who was going to go ahead but mistakes by those second and third stringers and 1 or 2 by vets gave the Eagles the victory. The play calling did not lose the game and neither did Watson's play. Stefanski is our most winning HC since the Browns returned. Give him the right players and Stefanski will do well. They need to stick with him but Haslam will get mad and blame him for everything. Then the team will be looking for HCs every 1 or 2 years for who knows how long.
We have to bench Watson to see. I cannot judge the offense or play calling as long as Watson is starting. We know the offense can be good. It's mentally defeating to watch Watson miss open plays that could be tds.
Just promote Vrabel and fire Stefanski, DePodesta, and Berry if he wants another GM. Enough is enough of this inconsistentcy. They can't string 2 winning seasons together.
SUPERBOWL CONTENDERS?????😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Baker was our DonaldTrump.. 😆
Shut up loser
Sounds like you’re also blaming it all on Watson … 😂 You’re saying the rest of the team and staff is also terrible but still putting it on him … Dudes put the team in position to win the last 2 games … A penalty.. A drop .. A Called back TD .. Horrible play calls from Kevin on 3-1 to stop momentum… Missed FGs …. Clock management…. All that’s a factor how you grade Watson … Yall want him to make magic where it’s not simply because of how much The GM and Owners chose to play him …. STEFANSKI IS THE ISSUE ….
You may need to watch the film. The play calling is decent. It's just watson isn't going to open wr. His bad play is truly affecting the wide outs and defense. It's depressing for me to watch the game. I can only imagine how the team feels.
As he shuffles to the bank each week with that "I don't give a sh$t" look on his face. Man is evil. You are reaping what you have sown Cleveland. Sold your soul for Football Jesus. Instead, got Football Judas!
@@warrenash5370Really. This isn't good v evil, it's football
@@treyk4505 Stefanski couldn't string 2 good seasons together with Baker and it's no different then with Watson, a QB he wanted and received.
@@amkrajc factz. Play calling is fine. There are plays to be made on the field. Watson can't see or read a defense.
Here’s what will happen. Browns will move on from Watson. Watson will succeed on another team and Cleveland will still suck
The same will happen with Stefanski. In the second half Watson looked much better and a penalty here and a penalty there lost the game for the Browns, They really were not outplayed by the Eagles for the victory.
I would make a bet that watson will not succeed on another team. Nobody will want him after this. I'm sort of blown away people considered him a top 3 qb in the NFL. He was good in garbage games.
My only sincere issue with the coaching... that they are keeping him in there. Then letting baker go after he had a bad season with a season ending injury with his shoulder. I think coaching will succeed once they get rid of Watson.
@@amkrajc people said the same thing about Baker, Geno, and Darnold. Baker went to Carolina and was still terrible. He went to the Rams and looked better. Now he is in Tampa and is playing great. The culture and environment are huge factors. Thats why cleveland will never win
@RawDollar I honestly felt Baker was going to be good once he settled in an offense. I think Baker played under 4 play callers while in cleveland. With Watson, I just don't believe, that he believes in himself. I just don't see Watson being good anywhere. He could prove me wrong.
@@amkrajc He already proved you wrong he was top 5 QB 3 years in a row in Houston. Doing it once may be a fluke but 3 years in a row is not a fluke.
Get rid of stefanski who cares if we rebuild and he is not getting a job immediately