Story 1, op needs to not only a get police escort but move and post that recording online letting everyone, know he sa and abuse her so he can't go near her or any woman without everyone knowing he did, especially since op has a witness and everyone knows why op can't have children herself making what he did even more horrifying then it already was.
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Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is shelly renee white
The 1st story just reminds me of a story I saw about a guy that went to a abortion clinic that people where protesting at and started handing out adoption papers and people were yelling at him about him harassing them... sometimes I hate people and others I love them so much
I don't understand insurance companies who refuse to pay for hysterectomies unless someone is passed birthing age, especially knowing there are health issues. I was lucky. Hyster at 33 due to adenomyosis.. and no man needed to sign off for me. It was, "this is the cure"... "okay"... done. It should be that easy for everyone
OP: "What attracted me to him is that he was just so sweet and kind 🥺" Also OP: *proceeds to describe an absolutely vile and manipulative piece of shit*
tbf narcissists tend to love bomb and mask a lot of bad behavior--they can seem perfect for quite some time. If they're smarter than OP's ex, then they'll slowly warm their victims up to their manipulative behavior until it feels normalized. Fortunately, OP's not insecure, and her ex is not one of the smart ones.
Story 1 - op dodged a nuclear missile. It's the "Babe I can't believe you really thought I would hurt you just because I tried to keep you hostage and lied about my vasectomy". This was baby trapping plain and simple. Men or woman should never be tricked into parenthood. This guy took advantage of op when she was too depressed to think and properly consent. He's an unhinged creep. If he wanted kids he could have dated a woman that wanted them. I think he targeted op specifically because she seemed a lot more easy to control with her past and other issues. (PTSD and depression). Story 2 - NTA. Nobody deserves to be in a physically and emotionally abusive relationship and I'd ask sophia if she's sure she wants a psycho to be the incubator of her baby. Op should have been recording olivia acting like a psycho after the first time she abused him. Story 3 - ngl. I was really hoping op didn't abandon the dog with his sister and mom. Usually an unhinged sibling is always emabled by equally unhinged parents. Op's sister is the apple that didn't fall far from the nutjob tree.
Story 1: wow, that guy was essentially a rapist. If he wanted kids so bad he needed to find someone who wanted kids. She had every right to that abortion with that and her medical issues. Those states that refuse to tie tunes until layer in life and with a "husband's"permission are misogynistic and dangerous.
Not even essentially. I believe legally, it can be considered rape, since her consent was implied to only be valid so long as he was using some measure of birth control. If you're having sex with someone and say no at any point, and they don't stop, that's rape. If she says "I'll only have sex if you wear a condom" and then he lies about wearing one, it's rape. Her saying "I'll only have sex without a condom if you get a vasectomy" and then lying about the vasectomy is a form of rape, which is why that one commenter mentioned that SA hotline
what he did was wrong and shitty but you cant call him a rapist, "rape" implies unconsenaul or no consent given penetration, in that case it was consenaul (the 'sex") he just lied about getting a vasectomy to be able to raw dog
I bet you the b@stard in story 1 would request the ‘husband stitch’ had she gone through with the pregnancy and delivery. 🥴 I pray for his future partners.
Ladies and gentlemen this story is a perfect example of when you're with someone and they are constantly trying to get you to do things you don't want to do that's your sign to freaking leave
A vasectomy only stops the transmission of sperm. The other two components of ejaculate (made by the cowper's and prostate glands) still come out. They're just blanks.
I lived in California when I got pregnant with an ex, nope abortion. It was a horrible and toxic relationship and I don’t regret to this day. Just one and as soon as I could I got my tubes removed, I was 28. I started my period too early (age 9) and some might say ha, you’re early for menopause. I don’t care, it’s a blessing for me, I’ve never wanted to be pregnant or raise a baby. And prolifers do confuse me, save children! But when they’re out anything goes. George Carlin had it right, pre born you’re good, born nope.
Story 2 this op. She has abused him physically and mentally and still stayed with her. Let's hope he divorces her not for his spineless sake but for his kids. Because if he doesn't sooner or later she will do the same to them
Its cuz no one believes when a man is being abused by a woman. Most cops take the man away even when hes been beaten to death and let the woman with no injuries stay if they get called for a domestic violence. Its literal policy for some precients to always take the man.
You're forgetting that she threatened to tell the cops that she hit him in self defense. Without video and audio proof, the cops would believe her. Then he would probably end up in jail. She would get full custody of those kids. They wouldn't have anyone there to protect them then.
Spoken like a naive teenager. Did you know the most life-threatening time for an abuse victim is when they leave? A lot of people don't leave because they're afraid they won't survive it. In this case, he's afraid of never seeing his kids again. He doesn't want them left alone with her. Whether you like his choice or not, he did what he did FOR his kids.
Am I asking for too much by saying that when your being abused like in story 2 just do what op did and get a recording of them talking about how they will make false claims
Bro i have moral issues with abortion when its 2 consenting adults and it being used as birth control but this was creepy and horrific. Can dudes file for reproductive coercion when babytrapped like that? That would be something useful for everybody that has been in this type of deal. But ole boy was on some serial killer vibes to me.
Vasectomies are possibly reversible. It's not guaranteed and the longer you wait, the less chance there is of reversal. Also they aren't 100% I hate when woman say "get a vasectomy" like mutilation is acceptable. There are lots of other birth control methods that don't require mutilation.
He lied about getting it. 💀 You do realize long term hormonal BC does increase the risk of some cancers? The best option for a woman who never wants children is to remove her tubes because 1. it reduces ovariam cancer 2. It doesn't have as sever side effects 3. You don't have to worry about forgeting or bc tampering. But guess what! Most doctors lose their shit if a woman wants permanent bc and claiming she needs a husband's permission or it is her duty to have kids. On top of that men don't have hormonal bc because it had a fraction of the negative effects female bc have and shut it down immediately. So men are left with vesectomies and condoms. Sure condoms are fine, but really they should be mainly used as STI protection and not the only BC you are using.
@@Moszanputting aside the fact the woman has more to lose getting pregnant (unless they want to be) they have the most options that don't require genital mutilation. Both mechanically and chemically than men. It is logical that they have more responsibility.
@@FalneyYou are obviously very ignorant about the side effects of birth control. Birth control meds can literally kill you in a not insignificant amount of cases due to the fact that it causes blood clots which can migrate to your lungs & kill you. It can change your whole personality, it can make you gain or lose huge amounts of weight so it can change your whole body, it can change how you see yourself & it can even change who you are attracted to (or make you lose attraction for your current partner who you're trying to please by taking it in the first place). Birth control meds aren't the easy peesy thing you think A 10 minute (I sat through my late husband's, holding his hand at his request) extremely minimal surgery where in most cases there aren't side effects (there can be but they are super rare) in comparison if you both don't want kids is just the common sense solution especially because women who would want their tubes removed (a way more invasive option according to doctors) rarely can find a doctor who will do so if you aren't over 35, don't have several kids already & without having your partner's written consent (like women are children & not whole adults). You can not want one yourself but trying to say that taking birth control isn't a huge imposition for a woman & is without major sacrifice is hugely ignorant.
Yeah, he tried to baby trap OP, but this rhetoric that vasectomies are "easy and simple to reverse" that women are pushing needs to end. Vasectomies can be reversed, but they're a) painful, b) not always reversible (I think the success rate is like 30% on average?), and c) can cause complications like permanent nerve pain. I also guarantee you that if you said to a woman "just get your Tubes tied: It's easily reversible, right?", they would flip their lid.
The reason for the vasectomies is because most cases women aren’t allowed their tubes tied. They either need to wait till after “birthing age” or get a partner to consent to having it done. Even still some doctors will just refuse to give women one. So no it’s not “just get your tubes tied” because women would be running to get it done if they could. Men have the freedom to get vasectomies whenever they want and your reasons for why they shouldn’t aren’t reasons. Those are the side effects of every surgical procedure. You don’t want it and thats fine but it’s easier to get a vasectomy than a tubes tied so it’s always going to be pushed more. Maybe if you want the same push for women, lobby and protest so women have more control over their body.
Someone doesn't know what birth control looks like for women, let alone the horrors we have to endure during 'routine exams'. At least during a vasectomy, you'd get anesthetic. They tell us 'there'll be a pinch and some pressure' then take a hole punch to our cervix, no pain meds, no prep.
I really really need people to stop thinking vasectomies are reversible in most cases they aren't and the longer you have one the more permanent it is you can't just get one and believe everything will be perfectly fine
Exactly! And if you said the opposite ("Just get your Tubes tied!"), they would flip their lid. This is just another example of growing misandry in the West.
@@MikeB-us5cgyes it is misandry that men have the freedom to get snipped whenever they choose but women must have a partners permission or wait a certain age or plead and beg their doctor for one.
@@MikeB-us5cgthere's too many ain't shxt men that men aren't addressing. We don't know which one will be shxt or when. What are men doing about this problem? I know men are scared of men too so why don't you help us?
@@MikeB-us5cgactually a lot of women do try to get their tubes tied! However unlike vasectomy, doctors wont do it without a husbands permission, a certain age, having so many kids, etc. so its near enough impossible to get.
I'm always puzzled by people who are over 18 and talk about "running away from home." No, love, you just left. When you hit the age of majority, you don't have any obligation to stay, especially if your parents are abusive like that mom.
sorry to the random few who don't fall in this category, but i have never in my life met someone named Olivia that was even a halfway decent human being. Amanda and Olivia are 2 female names that immediately puts me on my guard. Amandas can be good people in my experience, they're just all at least a little bit psycho 😂 again, sorry to the few people with those names on this planet that aren't train wrecks
Story 1: Well that was horrifying. Babytrapping is a really horrible thing to do to your partner. He sounds like a maniac.
37 is late to be having a child.
Wow is that guy manipulative and toxic.
He saw she was crying on the floor, and celebrated? So mask off. I'm sure he knew how horrible that was to do, but didn't care.
He absolutely planned to babytrap OP
Story 1, op needs to not only a get police escort but move and post that recording online letting everyone,
know he sa and abuse her so he can't go near her or any woman without everyone knowing he did,
especially since op has a witness and everyone knows why op can't have children herself making what he did even more horrifying then it already was.
The notion of a flawless marriage or relationship is a myth. There's no set formula for success; what works for one couple may not work for another. Yet, I've discovered that there's always a way forward, even in the most challenging times. Five years ago, my wife and I encountered significant hurdles in our marriage that nearly led to divorce. Despite the adversity, we managed to weather the storm and emerge from it with our bond renewed and revitalized
Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is shelly renee white
You wont regret it
The 1st story just reminds me of a story I saw about a guy that went to a abortion clinic that people where protesting at and started handing out adoption papers and people were yelling at him about him harassing them... sometimes I hate people and others I love them so much
I don't understand insurance companies who refuse to pay for hysterectomies unless someone is passed birthing age, especially knowing there are health issues. I was lucky. Hyster at 33 due to adenomyosis.. and no man needed to sign off for me. It was, "this is the cure"... "okay"... done. It should be that easy for everyone
I don't think the prolifers care one way or another what OP's reasons are if they are telling OP to hurt themselves.
Contrary to popular perception, very few people care about the reasons one might have for an abortion.
That's because they're not pro-lifers, they're anti-women.
Pro lifers are just ppl you wanna avoid in general. Women need to have the right to do what they want with their bodies.
OP: "What attracted me to him is that he was just so sweet and kind 🥺"
Also OP: *proceeds to describe an absolutely vile and manipulative piece of shit*
tbf narcissists tend to love bomb and mask a lot of bad behavior--they can seem perfect for quite some time. If they're smarter than OP's ex, then they'll slowly warm their victims up to their manipulative behavior until it feels normalized. Fortunately, OP's not insecure, and her ex is not one of the smart ones.
Jesus Christ in a montain bike, this guy doesn't have red flags, he IS the red flag.
He has more.red flags than a CCP Parade
more like Communist Parade in Pyonyang 🚩🚩🚩
The surrogacy is a two yes, one no situation
This sounds so unhinged.
Technically Assault and the OP could press charges.
Story 1 - op dodged a nuclear missile. It's the "Babe I can't believe you really thought I would hurt you just because I tried to keep you hostage and lied about my vasectomy". This was baby trapping plain and simple. Men or woman should never be tricked into parenthood. This guy took advantage of op when she was too depressed to think and properly consent. He's an unhinged creep. If he wanted kids he could have dated a woman that wanted them. I think he targeted op specifically because she seemed a lot more easy to control with her past and other issues. (PTSD and depression).
Story 2 - NTA. Nobody deserves to be in a physically and emotionally abusive relationship and I'd ask sophia if she's sure she wants a psycho to be the incubator of her baby. Op should have been recording olivia acting like a psycho after the first time she abused him.
Story 3 - ngl. I was really hoping op didn't abandon the dog with his sister and mom. Usually an unhinged sibling is always emabled by equally unhinged parents. Op's sister is the apple that didn't fall far from the nutjob tree.
Story 1 has a new update as of 8 days ago. Look up her username to find it but honestly it’s filled with mostly good things for OP and bad to ex
What do I search to find it???
@@Ajlikestraveling The username. It’s on the bottom of the screen as the title is being read. Also in the description
Fin is a monstrous liar and manipulator and when confronted on it will never admit to it. OP should document everything.
Story 1: wow, that guy was essentially a rapist. If he wanted kids so bad he needed to find someone who wanted kids. She had every right to that abortion with that and her medical issues. Those states that refuse to tie tunes until layer in life and with a "husband's"permission are misogynistic and dangerous.
The second he lied about a vasectomy to have condemless sex it became rape.
Not even essentially. I believe legally, it can be considered rape, since her consent was implied to only be valid so long as he was using some measure of birth control. If you're having sex with someone and say no at any point, and they don't stop, that's rape. If she says "I'll only have sex if you wear a condom" and then he lies about wearing one, it's rape. Her saying "I'll only have sex without a condom if you get a vasectomy" and then lying about the vasectomy is a form of rape, which is why that one commenter mentioned that SA hotline
It's called rape by deception
@@IslaKarieseit depends on the district unfortunately
what he did was wrong and shitty but you cant call him a rapist, "rape" implies unconsenaul or no consent given penetration, in that case it was consenaul (the 'sex") he just lied about getting a vasectomy to be able to raw dog
The first story the guy is a red flag!!! No, no a whole red curtain!!!!!
Not a red curtain… he’s the whole fucking RED RIBBON ARMY
I bet you the b@stard in story 1 would request the ‘husband stitch’ had she gone through with the pregnancy and delivery. 🥴 I pray for his future partners.
I wish these robot narrators would learn when "live" is pronounced with a short "i" and when with a long "i".
I'm so happy op in story 1 got away from him
Classic narcissist, it's all about me, me, me... Never cared about what the partner would want, ever.
Story 1 bro is a classic manipulator gaslighting and all
Ladies and gentlemen this story is a perfect example of when you're with someone and they are constantly trying to get you to do things you don't want to do that's your sign to freaking leave
Why didn't OP feel any "material" inside her? Why didn't the boyfriend look for a woman who WANTS to have children?
A vasectomy only stops the transmission of sperm. The other two components of ejaculate (made by the cowper's and prostate glands) still come out. They're just blanks.
This sounds criminal!!
she really looked over all those red flags
There was soooo many red flags with the first story. My god girl. Wtf
Everyone has the right to do what they need to do, take care of yourself.nta
I really gotta get my tubed tied...jfc..
*Where's The Video With The Rest Of The Updates!*
I lived in California when I got pregnant with an ex, nope abortion. It was a horrible and toxic relationship and I don’t regret to this day. Just one and as soon as I could I got my tubes removed, I was 28. I started my period too early (age 9) and some might say ha, you’re early for menopause. I don’t care, it’s a blessing for me, I’ve never wanted to be pregnant or raise a baby. And prolifers do confuse me, save children! But when they’re out anything goes. George Carlin had it right, pre born you’re good, born nope.
Story 2 this op. She has abused him physically and mentally and still stayed with her. Let's hope he divorces her not for his spineless sake but for his kids. Because if he doesn't sooner or later she will do the same to them
Its cuz no one believes when a man is being abused by a woman. Most cops take the man away even when hes been beaten to death and let the woman with no injuries stay if they get called for a domestic violence. Its literal policy for some precients to always take the man.
@@Kris-wo4pjWomen are frequently the biggest advocates for men online.
We KNOW what goes on behind closed doors.
You're forgetting that she threatened to tell the cops that she hit him in self defense. Without video and audio proof, the cops would believe her. Then he would probably end up in jail. She would get full custody of those kids. They wouldn't have anyone there to protect them then.
Spoken like a naive teenager. Did you know the most life-threatening time for an abuse victim is when they leave? A lot of people don't leave because they're afraid they won't survive it. In this case, he's afraid of never seeing his kids again. He doesn't want them left alone with her. Whether you like his choice or not, he did what he did FOR his kids.
He's not spineless, he's being abused. You on the other hand are bigoted and are the reason why stuff like that continues.
Am I asking for too much by saying that when your being abused like in story 2 just do what op did and get a recording of them talking about how they will make false claims
Story 1 is why everyone should vote blue this election year
MOFO BEAR!!!
Get recording and leave
Hello
I wanna see drake oiled up
Bro i have moral issues with abortion when its 2 consenting adults and it being used as birth control but this was creepy and horrific. Can dudes file for reproductive coercion when babytrapped like that? That would be something useful for everybody that has been in this type of deal. But ole boy was on some serial killer vibes to me.
Maybe you could not give away the whole story in the title?
With reddit stories, its needed because havig vague descriptions draws in fewer viewers for some reason 😅
Come on OP you're not a child. You must recognize toxic, manipulative AH's better and sooner.
Are you referring to the first, second or third story?
@@Moszan lol I can't remember
i disagree with abortion except for r### and this situation
Vasectomies are possibly reversible. It's not guaranteed and the longer you wait, the less chance there is of reversal.
Also they aren't 100%
I hate when woman say "get a vasectomy" like mutilation is acceptable.
There are lots of other birth control methods that don't require mutilation.
Yes, and he didn’t want them.
He lied about getting it. 💀
You do realize long term hormonal BC does increase the risk of some cancers? The best option for a woman who never wants children is to remove her tubes because 1. it reduces ovariam cancer 2. It doesn't have as sever side effects 3. You don't have to worry about forgeting or bc tampering. But guess what! Most doctors lose their shit if a woman wants permanent bc and claiming she needs a husband's permission or it is her duty to have kids. On top of that men don't have hormonal bc because it had a fraction of the negative effects female bc have and shut it down immediately. So men are left with vesectomies and condoms. Sure condoms are fine, but really they should be mainly used as STI protection and not the only BC you are using.
It's interesting how taking reproductive precautions falls squarely on the woman. And a lot of men don't want to do the same. Like... what?
@@Moszanputting aside the fact the woman has more to lose getting pregnant (unless they want to be) they have the most options that don't require genital mutilation. Both mechanically and chemically than men. It is logical that they have more responsibility.
@@FalneyYou are obviously very ignorant about the side effects of birth control. Birth control meds can literally kill you in a not insignificant amount of cases due to the fact that it causes blood clots which can migrate to your lungs & kill you. It can change your whole personality, it can make you gain or lose huge amounts of weight so it can change your whole body, it can change how you see yourself & it can even change who you are attracted to (or make you lose attraction for your current partner who you're trying to please by taking it in the first place). Birth control meds aren't the easy peesy thing you think
A 10 minute (I sat through my late husband's, holding his hand at his request) extremely minimal surgery where in most cases there aren't side effects (there can be but they are super rare) in comparison if you both don't want kids is just the common sense solution especially because women who would want their tubes removed (a way more invasive option according to doctors) rarely can find a doctor who will do so if you aren't over 35, don't have several kids already & without having your partner's written consent (like women are children & not whole adults).
You can not want one yourself but trying to say that taking birth control isn't a huge imposition for a woman & is without major sacrifice is hugely ignorant.
Yeah, he tried to baby trap OP, but this rhetoric that vasectomies are "easy and simple to reverse" that women are pushing needs to end.
Vasectomies can be reversed, but they're a) painful, b) not always reversible (I think the success rate is like 30% on average?), and c) can cause complications like permanent nerve pain.
I also guarantee you that if you said to a woman "just get your Tubes tied: It's easily reversible, right?", they would flip their lid.
The reason for the vasectomies is because most cases women aren’t allowed their tubes tied. They either need to wait till after “birthing age” or get a partner to consent to having it done. Even still some doctors will just refuse to give women one. So no it’s not “just get your tubes tied” because women would be running to get it done if they could.
Men have the freedom to get vasectomies whenever they want and your reasons for why they shouldn’t aren’t reasons. Those are the side effects of every surgical procedure. You don’t want it and thats fine but it’s easier to get a vasectomy than a tubes tied so it’s always going to be pushed more.
Maybe if you want the same push for women, lobby and protest so women have more control over their body.
Someone doesn't know what birth control looks like for women, let alone the horrors we have to endure during 'routine exams'. At least during a vasectomy, you'd get anesthetic. They tell us 'there'll be a pinch and some pressure' then take a hole punch to our cervix, no pain meds, no prep.
but you can't reverse getting your tubes tied..are you dense
If only men had a way to escspe baby trapping
I really really need people to stop thinking vasectomies are reversible in most cases they aren't and the longer you have one the more permanent it is you can't just get one and believe everything will be perfectly fine
Exactly!
And if you said the opposite ("Just get your Tubes tied!"), they would flip their lid.
This is just another example of growing misandry in the West.
@@MikeB-us5cgyes it is misandry that men have the freedom to get snipped whenever they choose but women must have a partners permission or wait a certain age or plead and beg their doctor for one.
@@MikeB-us5cgthere's too many ain't shxt men that men aren't addressing. We don't know which one will be shxt or when. What are men doing about this problem? I know men are scared of men too so why don't you help us?
Why would a 47 year old man want a baby anyway?
@@MikeB-us5cgactually a lot of women do try to get their tubes tied! However unlike vasectomy, doctors wont do it without a husbands permission, a certain age, having so many kids, etc. so its near enough impossible to get.
Story 3:
*John Wick Wants To Know **_Sister's_** Location !!!*
I'm lucky my hubs doesn't also want kids cuz I can't
I'm always puzzled by people who are over 18 and talk about "running away from home." No, love, you just left. When you hit the age of majority, you don't have any obligation to stay, especially if your parents are abusive like that mom.
sorry to the random few who don't fall in this category, but i have never in my life met someone named Olivia that was even a halfway decent human being. Amanda and Olivia are 2 female names that immediately puts me on my guard. Amandas can be good people in my experience, they're just all at least a little bit psycho 😂 again, sorry to the few people with those names on this planet that aren't train wrecks