Is Primary Optics Good Enough?

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  • @carlosdaniels9515
    @carlosdaniels9515 3 дні тому +41

    The second he looked through the scope backwards, that infamous Navy meme came to mind.

    • @gunblasterr
      @gunblasterr 21 годину тому

      this is what happens when you listen to a flat range pistol shooter about combat reticle selections 😂

  • @ebenaceto9497
    @ebenaceto9497 3 дні тому +108

    Omg that shirt lol

  • @MegaAndy93
    @MegaAndy93 3 дні тому +42

    Cracked out Ben is back with unboxings lol

    • @StanlyTPT
      @StanlyTPT 3 дні тому

      censorship is societal cancer

  • @YeOldeHobo
    @YeOldeHobo 3 дні тому +27

    Introducing, the Primary Arms SLx, Stoeger Edition. In limited Stripper Gold color way, perfect for the h03 rifle in your life.

  • @BenBelkin
    @BenBelkin 3 дні тому +44

    Their premium scope is made in the LOW factory in Japan alongside other coveted brands.

    • @AJohnSmith
      @AJohnSmith 3 дні тому +5

      Nippon.

    • @grzegorzzak1109
      @grzegorzzak1109 3 дні тому

      According to ordered specs, with ordered criteruia of quality control.

  • @coach-
    @coach- 3 дні тому +14

    the PA prism would be so much better if they ditched the donut. ended up selling mine.

    • @gunblasterr
      @gunblasterr 21 годину тому

      flat range talk, the chevron alone isn’t enough to pick up under white light or bright days, also when not illuminated, I ll take Ben’s advice when it comes to flat range pistol shooting and that’s where it ends, Eotech, Trijicon, Sig all have donut reticles in service, this guy doesn’t even know what side of the optic to look through literally

  • @armorers_wrench
    @armorers_wrench 3 дні тому +14

    Out of all the Primary Arms optics I think the PLX-C's are the only ones you would like. They're actual premium optics on par with the Razer or any other high end LPVO. They have a FFP with a mil christmas tree(I think they have that in moa too). They also have a SFP that has a reticle very similar to the Vortex Razer 1-6 where its just a crosshair with a bright illuminated reticle that is actually as bright as a red dot. Idk if you put the battery in that lpvo but even the cheap one you got there really is "red dot bright" but I agree, the SLX glass looks like it cost $250. Which it did! So that's alright. But yeah, their premium optics are made in the same optic factory in Japan that makes the Razers and the Trijicon Credo's and such.
    I have the FFP one, it's legit. I just wish it didn't have the chevron and instead had a little dot for the center aiming point like the Nightforce FDMX reticle or whatever that's called.
    The great thing about the PLX-C is the glass is phenomenal and they have the best 1x of any lpvo AND they're way smaller and lighter than the Vortex Razer 1-6x. The 8x is tight but typically if you're shooting at 8x you're shooting from a supported position of some kind.
    Edit: DId they send you the 1-10x or the 1-6x?

    • @t3h8ar0n
      @t3h8ar0n 2 дні тому +1

      The 1-8 PA platinum LPVO's were made by Light Optical Works, the same as the Vortex Razor... I assume they are still both made there.

  • @jonengelbird7051
    @jonengelbird7051 3 дні тому +59

    Love the shirt lmao

  • @micfasto8700
    @micfasto8700 3 дні тому +7

    You look like the Navy captain mounting The Optics backwards

  • @Hunt2-pr5ku
    @Hunt2-pr5ku 3 дні тому +3

    With the Canik unboxing Ben was so excited to find the holster, mini Canik tool, etc. With this scope unboxing all he could find was a descant pack😂

  • @t3h8ar0n
    @t3h8ar0n 2 дні тому +2

    The Primary Arms Platinum scope line is made by Light Optical Works in Japan (same people who make scopes for Vortex, Nightforce, Bushnell Elite, etc.)... those are absolutely GTG. I havent tried the budget PA stuff, but I had the platinum 1-8 lpvo (the first gen), and it was a tank.

    • @mdmonroe82
      @mdmonroe82 2 дні тому

      Being made in the same facility is not the same as using the same experts to assemble or quality of parts.

  • @SemperFi_EDC_Guy
    @SemperFi_EDC_Guy 2 дні тому +3

    Yes on the shirt!

  • @LKaramazov
    @LKaramazov 3 дні тому +1

    What they tell me is that customer service also counts, and I tell you, they’re customer service is outstanding! They’ll back up their products and service no questions!

  • @seanwhite304
    @seanwhite304 3 дні тому +3

    Primary Arms GLX 1X ACSS Micro Prism is pretty legit . Also the PLX-C 1-8× FFP GRIFFIN MIL ACSS is one of the best LPVO for the money . P.A. GLX and PLX-C Optics I've had nothing but good things to say about .
    Huge fan of the Micro Prisms.

    • @alanmeyers3957
      @alanmeyers3957 3 дні тому +1

      There’s a difference between people who read reviews and people who actually use stuff.

    • @seanwhite304
      @seanwhite304 3 дні тому +1

      @alanmeyers3957 I for sure use them and quite a few buddies do as well . I ain't the best 2Gun / PCSL / USPSA Shooter . I'm just a mid B level . 2Gun is what I shoot most . I do prefer Eotech EXPS3-2 or EXPS2-2 paired with MICRO Triplier for 2Gun matches 450Y and in . IMO the Micro Prism Shines for people with astigmatism due to the etched reticle . I fucking love the Micro Prism for 100Y and in shooting or super up close CQB Distance Type PCSL Stages .
      PLX-C is IMO the best optic for the money . Its LW and COMPACT with phenomenal glass quality . I could be be wrong because it might be old news but N.F. , Vortex Razor and PA PLX-C / PLX are all made in same factory in Japan .

  • @Saboteur_91
    @Saboteur_91 2 дні тому +1

    This is like watching a kid get the wrong video game for Christmas 😂 I love it

  • @CaveLife652
    @CaveLife652 14 годин тому

    They're good for the money. I bought one of their GLx 1-6 FFP LPVOs with a mil grid reticle for $400 on sale. It's a pretty decent LPVO.

  • @Wmbhill
    @Wmbhill 2 дні тому

    PA’s GLx 2X has become my favorite carbine optic. So far it’s held up to 2 full seasons. Mine has done well over 50 full 8 hour days on the range, and many other shorter training sessions. My son’s has about half that, zero issues with either one. Toss the PA mount and order the ADM mount.

  • @bountyhunterguideservice6355
    @bountyhunterguideservice6355 3 дні тому +11

    I’m surprised they sent you anything other than the PLXc 🤷‍♂️. I haven’t put my PLXc through the wringer, but I like it so far. I like the Griffin Mil reticle, but you should compare the PLXc nova with the Razor gen 2. Bought it because the reviews were so good from so many guys I trust on UA-cam. Would be interesting to see if you like it. To confirm my purchase 😂

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench 3 дні тому

      I have the same one and have had it for a year and have been using it quite a bit. Furthest range I have to shoot at is 500m which is right around 550y. I've shot with it out to those distances using a 12.5" and it worked well. 1x is good and all that. Illumination sucks as it does for most ffp optics except the $2500 ones. So, yeah.

    • @jakesnyder4199
      @jakesnyder4199 2 дні тому

      I have both and while it is close, the Vortex edges out the PLXc. The extra weight isn’t noticeable and the eye box is better. That being said, they are both great but if I could only grab one, the vortex is what I’m grabbing.

  • @JoshuaE-BiblePatriot
    @JoshuaE-BiblePatriot 3 дні тому +5

    Ben you should try the Primary Arms 1-6 plxc 1-6. It is around 1600. I think you would love it. Good eye box and good reticle options

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench 3 дні тому +2

      It's a 1-8 but yeah Ben would like that one if he likes the Vortex Razer. Good reticle+eyebox+smaller+lighter than the vortex razer.

  • @mollyboggy4419
    @mollyboggy4419 3 дні тому +4

    I've been using a PA Nova for a year now and just got a Razor HD for black friday. Excited to try it out.

  • @2AlphaCrew
    @2AlphaCrew 2 дні тому

    My dad’s been using one for years. He loves it.

  • @johnmyers8855
    @johnmyers8855 3 дні тому +1

    I have the gen 3, 5x prism in green on one of my rifles for a couple of years now and it’s good enough for that set up

  • @kspen1336
    @kspen1336 День тому

    Ready for Ben's take on the Sionics.

  • @ripdoinksinamish
    @ripdoinksinamish 3 дні тому +2

    Some of the PA stuff is pretty good, especially their premium optics.

  • @Lwikfo
    @Lwikfo 2 дні тому +1

    The nova 1-6 has a great reticle and glass for it’s price

  • @xm15e2commando
    @xm15e2commando 2 дні тому

    I use the 1-5 First Focal Plane on my rifle, the aiming system is spot on to 300 yds without. It is good enough for me. I have multiple of their basic smaller field of view on the Aimpoint micro mounting system, none has failed me, thoug I did not pay for Aimpoint nor do I expect Aimpoint rugged.

  • @spacecaesar7619
    @spacecaesar7619 3 дні тому

    Having used Scopes from all three lines(SLX,GLX,PLX); yeah it seems to be. I've spent a lot of time behind a GLX 2.5-10x and while it's certainly not just as good as a Leupold or a nightforce I don't feel that the quality of the scope has ever been the cause of a missed target. Their SLX Nova is a genuinely impressive optic for what it costs, and the reticle is incredibly usable at close range. As for the PLX it genuinely seems to stand toe to toe with with the ATACR, VUDU and Razor.

  • @AJohnSmith
    @AJohnSmith 3 дні тому +1

    When did you graduate from the institute? Class of 2019?

  • @MrCashewkitty
    @MrCashewkitty 2 дні тому

    PLX line is actually one of the only LPVOs I'd own. The ATACR is by far the best I've messed with. Haven't tried any lesser known, high end options like Swarovski or Khales and such though

  • @HoboWithAK
    @HoboWithAK 2 дні тому +6

    That fuckin shirt😂

  • @Our_Patterns
    @Our_Patterns 3 дні тому +6

    Bro that shirt🤣

  • @kodiak7964
    @kodiak7964 3 дні тому

    The PLxC 1-8x is arguably the best LPVO on the market. The eye relief is unmatched at 1x.

  • @timgleason2910
    @timgleason2910 3 дні тому +1

    The new GLX 1x prism is also awesome

  • @charlescooper9390
    @charlescooper9390 3 дні тому +6

    Excellent T-Shirt.

  • @magdump_supreme420
    @magdump_supreme420 3 дні тому

    Also have a primary arms 1-6x lpvo. One of the cheap one idk exactly which. It’s been on various rifles of mine and still Works well. Scope has Seen over 5k rounds.

  • @WettDoggTV
    @WettDoggTV 9 годин тому

    They have a Ronin Aems, and it fucks.. Its significantly better than the regular version.. Plus it has what we all want, a badass dragon on it

  • @hawkgeoff
    @hawkgeoff 2 дні тому

    I hear you on the donut in the cyclops... It's an interesting optic in that being a prism you always have a reticle regardless of battery being good and they eye box doesn't suck too bad. For me it it's going to have the donut it needs to be way thinner..

  • @CutlassOutdoors
    @CutlassOutdoors 3 дні тому +1

    Best Primary Arms review ever 😂

  • @RyanM444
    @RyanM444 2 дні тому

    No experience on PA LPVO. I have used their microprism due to my horrific astigmatism. Being a micro prism, you have to understand its an etched reticle, like an acog, in a "1x" housing. Being an etched reticle you have a much clearer reticle picture. I put 1x in quotations because its not a true 1x, theres a slight magnification. You have to adjust the diopter on the prism to fit your eye. From my experience it held zero fine and was accurate. I ended up returning mine due to the eye strain it caused. Its a neat little optic, but not for me in the end. Curious to see your thoughts on it.

  • @StanlyTPT
    @StanlyTPT 3 дні тому

    I like how you trained & have control over your hose... Out here in the wild, hose be out of control... & it's worse it's improving... Cheers

  • @HKGunPlay
    @HKGunPlay 3 дні тому

    I have the 1x prism. I like it and it seems legit. I haven’t shit but a couple hundred rounds through it.
    Guy came to my channel and said he had issues with his but I like mine.
    The vortex 1-6 is what I have on my LWRC. I really like it as well.

  • @Windowlick_
    @Windowlick_ 3 дні тому

    With PA's stuff, you pretty much get what you pay for. The SLX stuff is mostly blah, but a few of their PLX things, like the PLXC, is pretty great.

  • @user-wc1em7pc2p
    @user-wc1em7pc2p 3 дні тому +6

    Their plxc is decent

    • @kodiak7964
      @kodiak7964 3 дні тому +2

      It's the best LPVO on the market. Better stats than the nx8. 9-Hole Reviews has an excellent comparison.

    • @user-wc1em7pc2p
      @user-wc1em7pc2p День тому

      @@kodiak7964 I tend to agree for certain use cases but I personally have come to love the VCOG 1-8 with the throw lever mount. I'm a big fan of simplicity and a basic battery, no leveling, and the robust nature wins it for me when I'm going out for work. However at home on my grab n go 18" rifles I do prefer the plxc for the price point and I genuinely love the reticle.

  • @zacnoding12
    @zacnoding12 3 дні тому

    PA GLX 2.5-10 on a SPR 18" upper and previously 1-6 GLX FFP on a 16" BCM. Ran roughly 5000 through each, totally capable and usable setups that lasted the time and an upper exploding on me due to bad ammo. Zero stop caps are super nice for elevation and returning to zero for distance. Chevrons still suck balls tho.

  • @FluffyBunnyArsenal
    @FluffyBunnyArsenal 3 дні тому

    If no, what's a good alternative around the same cost, or maybe just a little bit more?

  • @Daedalus1650
    @Daedalus1650 3 дні тому +4

    PLXc 1-8 is the best lightweight lpvo on the market right now

  • @JenkinsStevenD
    @JenkinsStevenD 17 годин тому

    I haven't had any issues with their optics. Their customer service is trash and they are comfortable with selling out-of-spec parts, filtering objective reviews that might cost them a sale, not refunding for returned products, and filtering comments on their online platforms. As far as I am concerned it is now less about how good the products are but more about what kind of company you are dealing with. As such Primary Arms gets a big fat F. I have about 4 of their optics and while they all work fine, I'll never buy another product from them, Primary Arms or not. Nor will I buy their products from third parties.

  • @ControlledPairsGaming
    @ControlledPairsGaming 2 дні тому +4

    That shirt is sick.

  • @Justin7Wooden
    @Justin7Wooden 2 дні тому

    I have a couple PA products and I really like them

  • @goobasippay938
    @goobasippay938 3 дні тому +2

    The mount on the primary micro prism SUCKS. It breaks if you torque it to spec after doing it one time. You can only use it once basically.

    • @mdmonroe82
      @mdmonroe82 2 дні тому

      That's weird. I over torque everything and none of my mounts have broken.

    • @goobasippay938
      @goobasippay938 2 дні тому

      @ the first time is usually ok, but if you were to take it off and torque it again it would probably break. Basically a one time use mount

  • @timgleason2910
    @timgleason2910 3 дні тому +1

    I have the PLX1-8 compact and fn love it.

  • @aaronvargas3580
    @aaronvargas3580 3 дні тому +2

    Where did you get that shirt?? lol

  • @jigthepuff4540
    @jigthepuff4540 2 дні тому

    It’s weird watching honesty for once.

  • @miniapplesun
    @miniapplesun 2 дні тому

    Can you talk about reticles and why you don't like the donut?

  • @DaveandDebe
    @DaveandDebe 2 дні тому

    Excellent Optics 👍

  • @mrushing76
    @mrushing76 День тому

    the PLx is good stuff...the others are just budget. I want that shirt btw.

  • @Airondot
    @Airondot 3 дні тому

    I thought the micro prism was great when I first got it when I was pointing it at my apartment walls. However I sold it after my first time actually using it at an outdoor range. The reticle was too hard for me to pick up and the outer ring is basically useless except for close range holdover reference points. It has good features on paper, unfortunately it doesn’t translate to real world usage for me.

  • @traillesstravelled7901
    @traillesstravelled7901 3 дні тому

    Not a fan of the low end red dots. Ok-ish on the mid, but definitely looking to upgrade. The doughnut doesn't bother me .

  • @petrilaakso7927
    @petrilaakso7927 3 дні тому

    I’d like to hear about that Vortex sight in IPSC rifle context. What’s good, what’s bad for that job.

  • @stealth7545
    @stealth7545 3 дні тому

    i got one of the cheap primary arms scope mainly because i didnt have an LPVO, didnt have a ton of money, and needed something more than a red dot but didnt have a ton of money, it will work until i can afford something better, then i can put the cheap scope on a less important rifle like a 10/22

  • @gouki9114
    @gouki9114 3 дні тому

    The new SLX nova is the only LPVO I own, just to see if I like them. For a first one its ok but I'm more interesred now in the PLX-c or a Vortex. The dot gets pretty damn bright and the eyebox takes some time getting used to it. If I had to start over, I'd get either of the ones mentioned above.

  • @gleamtarrest6310
    @gleamtarrest6310 3 дні тому

    Thnx Canik Boi!

  • @_Art.Vandelay
    @_Art.Vandelay 2 дні тому +1

    Ben’s trash is filled with more Canik/TTI add ons

  • @WyFoster
    @WyFoster 3 дні тому +2

    I think you meant to say "ARE Primary Optics good enough?"

    • @LKaramazov
      @LKaramazov 3 дні тому

      Good point, except “ primary” isn’t the name. It’s kind of a gray area though, and I’m not sure.

  • @Mrlarson100
    @Mrlarson100 2 дні тому

    Which Vortex is that?

  • @brianf5190
    @brianf5190 3 дні тому

    PA currently has a gen 3 Slx with 5.56 ACSS reticle on sale for $180. I already have various mounts, and actually prefer this reticle over the newer ones (like the fiber optic). I couldn't resist picking one up as a place holder to throw on whatever gun needs it for a while.
    Of course PSA also has the Strike Eagle 1-6× on sale for around $230 with mount.
    PSA also routinely offers the 1-8x S.E. on sale for low $300's without a mount, and mid $300's with one.
    None of these are my dream optic, but darn those prices are nice. I still know so many fuds and cheapo's running irons or maybe a basic dot. There's no excuse to lack magnification anymore. Plus a $200ish 1-6x will be worth a fortune in squirrel meat when the idiots in charge start WW3 and wreck civilization.

  • @user-ih7hc9ey6k
    @user-ih7hc9ey6k 2 дні тому +1

    Great shirt ahaha

  • @LTLC
    @LTLC 2 дні тому

    It's not just good... It's good enough.

  • @nvkulk
    @nvkulk 2 дні тому

    I too graduated from the Wuhan Institute.
    You have many question, Dr Wuhan I send you premium - answer question, hundred percent!”

  • @forestrussell-yount1355
    @forestrussell-yount1355 3 дні тому +2

    Now after that live stream Ben out here doing cheap product reviews bravo brother lol

  • @joeyxbat
    @joeyxbat 3 дні тому +2

    Ben gone green!😂

  • @user-ih7hc9ey6k
    @user-ih7hc9ey6k 2 дні тому

    I like the primary arms prism a lot for what it is but the chevron and their other reticle options are not very appealing

  • @magdump_supreme420
    @magdump_supreme420 3 дні тому

    I’ve got a primary arms MD65 red dot mounted on an AK gas tube and it’s got about 2k rounds maybe a little less, and hasn’t died yet. Video is on my page.

  • @741podnammoc
    @741podnammoc 3 дні тому

    Once again, betting Ben won't like it, but man I really need him to. Lol. Great shirt.

  • @Doc41295
    @Doc41295 2 дні тому

    Idk about the lower tier scopes but I do know the PLXc slaps.

    • @mindwreckRC
      @mindwreckRC 2 дні тому

      it better slap at 1300 dollars

    • @Doc41295
      @Doc41295 2 дні тому

      @mindwreckRC That's mid tier money for LPVOs. The vortex 1-6 are that much. The 1-10 and the ATACR are much more. The PLXc punches above its price.

  • @N238E
    @N238E 3 дні тому +2

    It depends on where your standard is drawn. Primary Arms may be good enough for Brass Facts, but definitely not good enough for Trench Grenade.

  • @kylehill4437
    @kylehill4437 2 дні тому

    I think they are excellent for the price, but Im a "buy once cry once" type of guy.

  • @johnm5131
    @johnm5131 3 дні тому

    "pretty good" is actually about as high a rating as Ben gives! LOL! Love these reviews tho, so dang honest.

  • @martyrobbinsismydad
    @martyrobbinsismydad 3 дні тому +2

    That shirt 🤣🤣

  • @JDMattern
    @JDMattern 3 дні тому +2

    Bruh your shirt 😂

  • @rpnbf8196
    @rpnbf8196 3 дні тому

    I was shooting an 11.5 on Wed that has the slx 1x and I can’t shoot it at speed anywhere near as well as my eotechs or red dots. Idk if it’s the parallax or distraction from having a perfect image compared to my crappy eye sight…but I struggle with it. I was so frustrated shooting it that I just ordered an inexpensive red dot for the rifle to replace it.

  • @elielaraujo4979
    @elielaraujo4979 3 дні тому +1

    Pirate scope

  • @steveg2277
    @steveg2277 2 дні тому

    Answer: No
    I don’t bet my life on “maybe”.

  • @jamesalexander7398
    @jamesalexander7398 3 дні тому

    Man you should reach back out and ask for the PLX Nova

  • @coyoteoaty4
    @coyoteoaty4 2 дні тому

    PA very top line optics barely tip into mid range quality. Razor has been proven in competition and combat for a decade. Not comparable

  • @bricethaice
    @bricethaice День тому

    i hate the acss reticle, they put that thing on everything now, thats probably the main reason i wont use PA optics now lol. they need to offer a simple reticle alternative.

  • @zact9941
    @zact9941 День тому

    Hey Ben, I am an lpvo nerd and live in Mesa. Lmk if you want to chat about these

  • @DanDannyDanielleBob
    @DanDannyDanielleBob 3 дні тому

    Seems like they sent you the cheapest stuff. I have a glx 1-6 it is ok. Too heavy, but I don't have anything to compare it to other than dots and an acog

  • @outboardprsnlstndup
    @outboardprsnlstndup 21 годину тому

    Forget your taste in optics, where’d you get the shirt?!

  • @joeboterf2523
    @joeboterf2523 3 дні тому +1

    Sell that shirt on benstoeger proshop

  • @SinistralRifleman
    @SinistralRifleman 3 дні тому +2

    The Primary Arms NOVA is an adequate sight for someone on a budget. The crosshairs are little to thick for my taste, and the 1X isn’t great. But it’s ok for 100-500 yard shooting.
    I’ve gotten some division top 3s with mine, but it’s not my first choice. It’s a place holder to show off different rifle configurations without having $1,000+ optics on them all.

    • @comacoda
      @comacoda 3 дні тому

      👋

    • @tfwwhennofitlitgf3300
      @tfwwhennofitlitgf3300 2 дні тому

      Hard to beat the Aurora 1-6 for $200 and Nova 1-6 for $250. And that's brand new. Even cheaper on GAFS.

  • @arlissyoung8899
    @arlissyoung8899 3 дні тому

    Green is the only way to go for me. I wished they had come out with it sooner. I have to many Red Dots to replace for green. If it doesn't come in green now I won't buy it.

  • @madisonberg627
    @madisonberg627 2 дні тому

    On todays episode: Does it fucks?

  • @niko2415
    @niko2415 2 дні тому

    Vector paragon 1x is much better than anything pa makes.

  • @rklkify
    @rklkify 2 дні тому

    primary arms fucked up not giving ben a plxc

  • @nathancummins8728
    @nathancummins8728 3 дні тому

    They need to send you a plx-c. Those are trash.

  • @mikef1949
    @mikef1949 2 дні тому

    They have a couple good optics. Not sure why they decided not to send you one of those. These guys are notorious for sending UA-camrs free shit and usually they get a favorable review because of it. They must not have done their research on you.

  • @hunterjones7909
    @hunterjones7909 2 дні тому

    Hey Ben, if you can tolerate sitting through the whole thing i was curious about your opinion on this. To sum it up he complains about the glock trigger, grip angle, people changing out every component they can, slide fitment, and the lack of innovation glock has had over the years. Thoughts?
    ua-cam.com/video/aO0f3hdVz98/v-deo.html

  • @TheJohnBrowningGunClub
    @TheJohnBrowningGunClub 2 дні тому

    PA prism is awful i had to send mine back

  • @johnbuntin7188
    @johnbuntin7188 3 дні тому

    Yeah hate the dount of death and the Chevron. Just give me a dot.