Hinduism Weakened India | Vishal Mangalwadi
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Indian philosopher Vishal Mangalwadi describes the centuries of damage which Hinduism inflicted on India prior to British colonisation.
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This is the truth We hindus in india must accept this
Lol you try to unite the entire subcontinent through military action ,even british with all there power had to allow 500 or so kings to tun there own parallel governments out there .
"I will pat my dog but I won't touch you", sounds like our political class.
yes but india always struggling with cowdung and cowurine
Hinduism never went global (though it was spared whole asia) because it is not a "missionary" religion, meaning that Hindus are not actively seeking to convert others to their faith. Instead, Hindus believe that each person has the right to choose their own path to salvation. Additionally, Hinduism is a very diverse religion, with many different sects and sub-sects, each with its own beliefs and practices, which can make it difficult for outsiders to understand and appreciate.
that's the reason it is a ferral religion. Hinduism sounds great in theory but failed to understand human psyche. People in those days needed solid moral anchors to unite, follow rule of law but Hinduism somehow thought that by giving fredom to choose one path it will lead to salvation but exact opposite happened because most people are tribal they need to given solid rules to follow
@@yono4633 First of all Hinduism is not feral. I don't know what reigion background you from but you using this intensionaly. Who told you most of the hindu are tribal?? The fact that Hinduism is not a "missionary" religion does not make it feral. Freedom to choose one's own path can lead to a greater sense of individual agency and personal responsibility, which can in turn result in a more connection with GOD. freedom to choose one's own path is not a weakness, but a strength, that Hinduism does not impose strict rules or moral anchors. If you want stay strict then follow Vaishnavism they've many followers worldwide which is fastest growing Hindu sect. Vaishnavism may be one expression of Hinduism that emphasizes set of strict rules and moral anchors, it is not the only one. ***Lastly, It is unfair and incorrect to make sweeping generalizations about a religion that you may not fully understand. Try to read Bhagavad-Gita... BTW i'm not Indian i'm from Bangladesh
Christian missionary’s do and should not force people to follow Christianity either. But Christianity is exclusive. Jesus describes himself as THE way THE truth and THE ALIFE. No one can come to the Father or enter heaven without accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior. But Christian’s are not to “force” people to follow Christ. Christ never taught the disciples to do so and they never did. They never took up swords and forced people to convert. As a matter of fact Thomas was killed by Hindus for simply preaching the gospel. Now, have their been self proclaimed “Christian’s” who have used Christianity to further kingdoms and to justify wars. Absolutely. But Christianity does not teach that. Christ did not teach that.
@@jjgems5909 yeah things are twisted now. People are now using Christianity to justify their political agenda.
Who said it was never missionary in nature. We converted the foreign Huns, Scythians and Greeks and took them into the hindu fold as kshatriyas. We lost our religious zeal to convert all of the subcontinent because in the early medieval times, we became over confident as the writings of Alberuni clearly mention. We also did not anticipate foreign invasions of the Turks because of bogus inter-fratricidal rivalries and loss of intelligence and new war technology. If Hinduism was the one which made India weak is something I consider as an unsophisticated argument. We had caste theology which saved our total rout from the subcontinent as compared to the fate of Buddhism and Jainism which did not follow caste hierarchy. Our strong religious mythology and caste theology is what saved us. What we could have done better at, was religious theology which we largely lacked. I accept your point which says that Hinduism is so diverse that most outsiders don't understand as they look from a monotheistic monochromatic lens.
Am from India and I agree with his assessment. India was never a Hindu country/lands. India is a Vedic culture which did not prescribe any religion and definitely not the occultist European paganism (named Hinduism in India). I am not a Muslim.
Yeah, it was never a collective religion
How would you define Sanaathana Dharma? Buddha and the Tirthankaras discussed Sanaathana Dharma.
Interesting. But how did India become wealthy and intellectual capital of world if it had divided society and not all individuals contributed to it's success?
Brahmins
@@bestvideos35 Brahmins took a vow of poverty and lived a very difficult life. They were suppose to study, meditate and engage in spiritual practices all the time.
Do you mean vaishyas and kshatriyas?
The varna system served several functions. One was separation of religion from state. Another was separation of religion from business. Another was separation of state from business.
@@bestvideos35The accumulation of vast wealth by hardworking Indians. Brahmins in temples has transformed religion into a lucrative business endeavor. Brahmins and upper caste pepole are the reason for the decline of Hinduism have you ever thought why countries like japan china has accepted Buddhism not Hinduism has created different identity with in the same race of people you guys are the reason for this dysfunctional society
Wonderful insights..thank you
He does not understand varna and jati (what he calls "caste" . . . a European word). He is also incorrect about the islamist invasions of the dharmic areas. It took islamists over a thousand years of tough fighting to conquer large swats of the dharmic regions. It took a very long time for Afghanistan (then part of India) to fall to Islamist invasions.
Why don't you understand the crux of the Statements that Hinduism is fundamentally weak & has Invited Invaders for that reason
Someone please tell these silly guys that "Hindu" and "India" are two forms of the same word for the Sindhu/Indus river. Saying that "Hinduism weakened India" is like saying "Anglicism weakened England".
correct.
word salad
This man is right
Trust me.. he's not lying...
Lol
@@wario5482yeah.... funny isn't it?
Every thing and everyone touched by the Word of God -blooms . The current n-w-o is using of strategy of those who are not accepting medical mandates are the new lower caste .
What we may be looking at here is a system of social organization that worked at a lower city or village level but have difficulty being scaled up to a larger national level. If the castes specialize into laborer farmer merchant artisan warrior priest etc. that could work until you need to shift to a new form of production. Priests will refuse to dig ditches or cook food and will keep the laborers out of their temples schools etc.
That's a lie, you know nothing about the Hindu society
When the British came to India, a majority of people in vedic patshalas (to become "brahmin" priests) came from families that were not Brahmin. Ergo, the system constantly tried to recruit talent from other groups and incorporate them.
Many of the students in temple schools (not the same as vedic patshalas) were designated by the English as "low caste". The English shut down most of these temple schools.
By some estimates British India had over 4 million groups or jatis. The British were completely overwhelmed by the complexity and diversity of what they encountered and couldn't make heads or tails out of what was happening in British India or Indian social structure.
Please read vikram sampath bravehearts of bharat...ur knowledge is laughable..please read persian record of religious reason to destroy kafir temple and idol...
india is great because of dharma
Haha
@@Lesboi what u need
@@ShubhamGupta-hg9md A mirror for you lol
@@Lesboi only becaue of hindus whole world knows how to count 0-9, algerba to Pythagoras to trignomentry. whole world should be grateful hindus
@@ShubhamGupta-hg9md thats like saying because of British we Indians know about law and order lol...why tf you want everyone and everything to be subtly subservient to India 🤔😞
Wow! Thanks for sharing. I didn’t realize what Caste was about fundamentally.
Lol, he is wrong and a propag andist.
He does not know much about jati and varna. "Caste" is a European word. He is a christian evangelical.
His understanding of history is also wrong.
FYI, when the British left British India in 1947, there were 540 kingdoms with 540 royal families. Half of these royal families were designated by the British as "low caste". The British did not understand India and Indian social structure. Or perhaps the British were trying to impune and discredit the Indian elite, rich and royal families by calling them "low caste."
People had no problem defending those temple because they had temples and mruitis at home.
Well replace the word Hinduism from casteism.
Than it Christianity, bcz Hindus didnt have it until British came and gave us the Christian word caste which Portuguese practiced.
100$ if u can point out words Caste in Hinduism and all groups had caste, u can see Monarch in Birtsih By berth u r given the king place in democracy and calls him highness from whom is high, I mean u dont even know one bit and talks about stuff which u cant comprehend and 2 christians talking about Marxist like Max Muller and talking about caste which they practiced more and calls everyone kaffir or infidel and they should be killed bcz they are of lower class.
Get Out of here.
Is that what he is attempting to do? By this do you mean varna and guna? The infinite nonbinary multiplicity of quality and diversity in the universe?
@@AnAn___ brother read your history textbooks and see impact of Hinduism is positive as well as negative also. And also India has been richest nation in ancient and mediaeval times.
@@SurroachAbhinav1110 We agree. He does not appear to understand varna or guna.
Part of the purpose of the varna system was:
separation of church from state
separation of church from business
separation of business from state
To say that just because by some estimates there were over 4 million groups or jatis, does not mean there wasn't unity in diversity.
This is disgracefully inaccurate - this is a great disservice to understanding the history and philosophy of India - indeed this is just a colonial narrative
agree
The amount of wrong information and false narration this Christian is spreading is incredible.
It should be easy for you to name the wrong information then
@@petros-estin-petra- well I mean if you really want to hear it then u must search it by your self.
@@vjpatel1311 so you've got nothing?
@@petros-estin-petra- doesn't feel important to rant on comment section like you.
@@petros-estin-petra- The only thing he's got is ignorance.
Thank you for your work John Anderson .
He is a liar and a prop agandist
THe Puranic and Koranic
Christianity is THE basis for a civilized society. Add to that, that God made and owns this world, therefore,
His rules are paramount and the chaos around us is the consequence of disregarding His rules.
Is it any wonder that the phrase "No law but God's law" was repeated throughout history?
You haven’t been to Japan have you 😂
@@chrisc2671
The capital of suicide in the world
Highest divorce rate in Asia
The lowest fertility rate in Asia
The most feminist country in Asia
Japan is a communist state with the highest taxes in the world aswell the locals have to pay 60% of their earning to the government
Japan is consumerism there is lack of community and religious unity
I take my catholic brethren in Philippines 🇵🇭 any day over Japan 🇯🇵
@@user-xi2dp3fi8k what do you mean by “most feminist country in Asia”? I’d say your beloved Philippines is yeah more feminist. I think there are probably ladyboys in the Philippines than in Thailand and if not more it’s just because they can’t afford it. Also the main reason the Philippines is so poor is that they are Catholic. They have a massive out of wedlock birthrate and because abortions are banned and the people just want to breed above all else they have extremely high rates of single mothers. Don’t tell me Japan is top of the list in all your categories.
A lot of what you say about Japan could also be said about South Korea which is a Christian country. The two are different ofcourse but no country is like Japan and Japan is just further ahead. Korea lags Japan in demographics for instance.
@@chrisc2671 I wouldn't want to grow up in modern Tokio nowadays.
@@chrisc2671 japan is the exception that too dont follow lindiusm type religion
His book changed my life!
So basically, earlier you were pathetic and now you are very pathetic..
Quite a change I must say... Lol
Western left and right is united when it comes ro denegeating hinduism. Thats the commom glue that binds it. Seeming opposition is just a deception. Their goals are common.
The royalty model of government had already weakened any attempt at nationhood. Kings and Princes have nothing to do except relive some _Ozymandias_ scenario (Sowell). The double whammy is religion. As long as your life, ambitions, wealth or hopes are the plaything of some imaginary fiend (no typo) humans cannot plan ahead or contribute to any mutually beneficial project other than filling the places of religion with wealth, proto-Lindisfarne. As Adam Smith took great pains to point out, we are united by our common humanity and willingness to mutually benefit our society. Quid pro quo. Nothing has changed except reluctance to work only with reality.
Interesting, I'd been talking about Lindisfarne just yesterday. Never thought about it in that way before, food for thought. Listening to Econ Prof Richard Werner though, the German monasteries invested local money in local businesses, a banking system, and provided food, education, medicine. Their disappearance was quite devastating. Still local banks are a tradition and a big ingredient in German success. Dwindling as they get taken over by a few big players, akin to the British model.
Religion spurred the first literacy and were the only ones attempting any type of charitable work for the post people. Yet you think it's religion holding back people from coming together to create some Utopia? That's funny.
Western civilisation today is playing out the battle between the "Divine right of kings" and the divine rights of every man.
@@kalburgy2114 Good point. My grandfather always said with rights comes responsibility. With privilege comes obligation.
@@kalburgy2114 Most especially those of the Left persuasion. They sense they are Princes in all but title. Except Hawke, I swear he was in the wrong party. The rest all tried to lead a clamouring, needy people. Which is also why I don't trust Abbott.
Intelligent people should read the newly released “Lords of the Deccan”, a book of history written by author Kanisetti. The book spills the bean on the origins of hindu-ism, the truth of which has been put out for decades by true Christian scholars.
Sounds like the USA.
Vishal Mangalwadi is a Christian missionary, beware of what he says.
So?
@@Theloneyat so he’ll criticize everything about India because he associates it with Hinduism. Idiot.
@@Theloneyat that's why he preaches against Hinduism, u clown.
@@Theloneyat He is being intentionally inaccurate in what he is saying.
@@AnAn___ Sounds accurate to me!
He is factually very incorrect because of following reasons :-
1) He did not mention that for how many thousands of years hindu kings ruled over Indian Subcontinent and only after the arrival of Islamic conquest the Hinduism became weak. Hindu Rulers managed to let Alexander to loose the Indian Subcontinent.
2) Subcontinent was divided because of it's massive diversity of different cultures and not because of Hinduism like Europe was divided into many empires but Christianity cannot be said to be a reason for division of European Empires.
3) Caste System was once a Varna System in which was socially divided but it became rigid during the Islamic Conquest.
4) Islamic coquest was not able to turn the Indian Subcontinent into Islamic nation because of rigid Caste System among Hindus. ( Not Justifying the Harsh System).
5) India got many famous temples and mind blowing architecture because of spread of Hinduism.
6) Neighbour should be treated like we treat god has always been a part of Hindu Philosophy (Athithi Devo Bhav).
Great Views
then why u guys only care about cowdung and cowurine?
jai hind, gobar gaumutra bhai 🙏🇮🇳
@@Michael-vw8vp
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@@Michael-vw8vp When you guys get refuted by points and facts then you cope by grasping at straws like "b-b-but cowdung & caste system" Lol.
Two bit missionary stooge
"WOKE" the new Hinduism?
Please elaborate. Frequently, many describe the ancient east as woke. What do you mean by this, though?
@@AnAn___ Before Muslim invasions of the Indian subcontinent, and Africa and Christian invasion of Australia india, Africa and America it was like woke culture ( eating, seccss and exploitation of each others) no concept of right and wrong, morality reason or integrity
This is good to see. Conservatives in the West need to realize that they stand for something quite different to the Hindu right-wing in India.
What is the difference? The global non woke need to unite.
Caste is not untouchability although untouchability is part of it. Caste is a hierarchical system of what were perceived to be different local races, with Brahmins at the top and untouchables on the bottom. Mangalwadi sounds to be a typical Dalit(so called untouchable) who has a hang up against upper castes, especially Brahmins. But I do broadly agree with his assessment that Hinduism weakened India. But he should have also mentioned how the unscientific reservation system, which was invented by Ambedkar as a wild vigilante justice against caste system of India, has also enormously weakened the modern Indian bureaucracy and continues to do so. I am an Indian.
Aren't u dark skinned South Indian who r considered to be shudras?
Inviting fake wokes on ur podcast is new trend this guy know nothing about India just another NRI cursing India
Seriously John Anderson, i expected you to be better than this.
Why?
@@petros-estin-petra- this guy is a propogandist.
@@petros-estin-petra- cause he is right wing fascist lindu got butthurt
u guys only care about cowdung and cowurine, jai hind, gobar gaumutra bhai 🙏🇮🇳
Absolute propoganda...inviting a christian to talk about hinduism...
We converted the foreign Huns, Scythians and Greeks and took them into the hindu fold as kshatriyas. We lost our religious zeal to convert all of the subcontinent because in the early medieval times, we became over-confident as the writings of Alberuni clearly mention. We also did not anticipate foreign invasions of the Turks because of bogus inter-fratricidal rivalries and loss of intelligence and new war technology. If Hinduism was the one which made India weak is something I consider as an unsophisticated argument. We had caste theology which saved our total rout from the subcontinent as compared to the fate of Buddhism and Jainism which did not follow caste hierarchy. Our strong religious mythology and caste theology is what saved us. What we could have done better at, was religious theology which we largely lacked.
Caste is not really important anymore as Savarkar writes but still its vestiges largely remain in the Indian society because we a still a third world pre industrial society. As Patricia Crone says that such societies will always have tribal identity overriding National identity. Yuval Harari says that religion is the greatest creation of human race and I clearly agree that it created a supra national identity which subsumed most tribal identities. Thus uniting mankind of a certain geography. Even sadguru says that caste is a local identity for social insurance and once India has an excellent all inclusive social coverage, we may all see the abolition of caste one fine day as Babasaheb Ambedkar theorized.
And i spot hinduophobics here
He is only stating an opinion, i doubt he is scared of Hindus (which is what phobic implies). Maybe learn to listen to someone else's view and then comment a flaw you find with his line of reasoning instead of saying what all Muslims say when they hear some criticism.
@@camelotchimp but his opinion is biased and I heard this alot of time since when the Britishers were doing there propaganda Ya that's why I said this it's a classic strategie of Jesus cult or anti India saying that the religion of India which flourished this country the soul of India its enemy, I can saw the history when people were really following there religion and then when the muslim invaders and Anglo imperialist did with this county even you can't find one country where communist Islam and Christianity can leave this together all are each other enemies but India is the only country where you can see a mosque together with church or communist cuz of Hinduism gives that thought that's why they are eager to destroy this and can think who can take over this land but then that's the end of humanity like if I said your people or whatever is the cuz of your society tho the fact is that how Christianity destroys european culture like that and then the Europeans destroyed Jesus cult in enlightenment era and we all know that when popes don't get their money they dumb there trash in Asia west are now following Hinduism cuz we do comparative studies rather than believing nonsense Propaganda read bhagwat Geeta or upnishad then I am totally assure that's enough to dismantle this video have a good day.
gobar gaumutra bhai, jai shree ganesh 🇮🇳🙏
The guy spews BS twice for every word
rice bag converted
What a propaganda going on here...
Huh?
Its a small channel with an almost 6 minute clip of a man stating his opinion and now all of a sudden its propaganda... 😂
indian live in delusion
Those 10 commandment that treat black as inhuman..destroyed native ...forced scientific temperament to shut...
gobar gaumutra bhai, jai hanuman 🙏🇮🇳
@@Michael-vw8vp u think that low jibes can mitigate what people has to suffer bcz of crusades
Come debate with me we will se what knowledge u gain
jai shree ram, gobar gaumutra bhai 🙏🇮🇳
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