Very well timed video for me. When I was 18 I used to race and had a top 3 time on a local 10 mile tt. Then I broke my back and had 2 yrs in a wheel chair and 8 years off the bike. I’ve been riding again for 2 years and my fitness is just starting to get good. I’m heading back to where I grew up on Thursday and am going to try and beat my 18 year old self on that same race. Been getting my position dialed in the last few weeks. Really enjoyed the video. Has me more stoked up to go then I already was!
Not a Vegan or a racer but I never miss your video's as they are some of the absolute best online as they are both interesting and funny. I really enjoy them.
FWIW I've had it happen to me and done the same. Sometimes it's just about psychologically showing yourself you are strong. I had nothing in my legs thur, sub 1k watt sprint, did 1236w SEATED last night. Mentally being on point is just as important as physically
Totally can happen!!!...sometimes! I did a race up an HC climb (0-1500m in 21km on a Saturday in June. Legs were hurting walking up stairs the next day. Road race on Monday (public holiday)- best legs ever!!
I understand though. If it’s what you can handle mentally that’s fair, but then complaining about it comes off a bit whiny. No hate though love your vids.
The relative openness of the hips is what affects your power on the TT bike. It is very different between the two types of bike. Could have been your position above the pedals on a bike not fitted to you. You should have a TT saddle which is positioned right below the sitz and really only supports you (boys are way out in front). Recommend the pigeon for TT position. Stretches gluts at the same time. Work your way to laying flat. Works. Pedals by Garmin? Work as designed (poorly). Congrats on the KOM. If you are going uphill, how did that work on the TT? Rocked the 10 miler. Love your videos, keep them coming!
Great Vid! It might interest you to know that in the UK the amateur 10mi TT National Champs was Won in 2015 on a bike that cost less than £1000 & no power meter, computer or HRM. So often riding on feel can sometimes be better... sometimes
Tyler i totally get what your saying and unless you try it and apply yourself you won understand. I watched your video and thought exactly and even the zwift races thanks
Really enjoyed this video. Spent 2 hours setting up my time trial bike properly now, feeling inspired to get in the hours in the aero position after this!
Really enjoyed this video T!!! Well done, what an improvement over such a short period of time! Have been doing TTs for a few months now and like it a lot. Got 8th last Saturday with 45.2kph av over 22kms. Am curious if you'll keep this up. Perhaps it really suits you, I guess so!
Try watching TV or reading while in an areo position. When I first started tt position, I couldn't do more 20 mins, now I can do 112 miles at 90% tt. Core works helps a lot. As for the balls issue, I don't actually sit on my saddle, I balance my bum on the beak of my time trial saddle... otherwise, after 4 or 5 hours, you can forget about any more kids
Gj, sounds like time trial has good carry overs for overall fitness. I see some comparisons between your 2 week program and how I train in powerlifting. Just watching these videos is helping me get the lingo, abbreviations, typical racing environments and conditions... all helping me on my road bike journey. I could have had a road bike over 10 years ago but didnt have the 900 bucks cash to buy it, stuck with mountain biking since then, using a hybrid bike now. It sucks but I'll use what I have.
good job. good vid. a week of tapering before race might be another useful trick. saving your matches for your tt stage could give u another boost. but its good you gave yourself for the team the stage before. i understand your team gets two chances to win when you go into a break and go full hero mode. next time they can give you the limo ride all day the day before the tt.
T - regarding "ball placement", just continue to tweak that ISM saddle. A tiny tilt angle adjustment can result in a major improvement in comfort! I don't even own a TT bike, but have been demo-ing several of their saddles, and am a true believer in their design concepts. I think it was Phil Gaimon that turned me on to their stuff when he started his video series a couple of years, right after I'd purchased my road bike, and was having comfort issues on the saddle. Give more than one model a shot, and don't be afraid to experiment with setup.
Great video bro, they really inspire. Totally sympathize with the "pain" of a TT fit, def a lengthy process, no fun. Glad it became fun in time for you.
Tyler - Awesome video man. Couple of things I noted. #1 you should have done/should do a FTP test (just do a ramp test bro) in the TT position to determine your correct FTP for that position. As you noted you couldn't hold the prescribed power as the position is so much different. Proper zones is going to allow you to finish those workouts. #2 I'm not so sure that bike is too small. Before you buy anything get a TT fit by someone that does TT fits. Everything I've heard is that the TT bike is generally a size smaller than your normal road frame size. But again...if you're going to drop that money get a fit first and make sure you get the right size and are in the best position to make power and be aero (and are legal in case someone decides the UA-cam hero should have their bike checked). #3 when are you coming to PA to visit your coach? Turns out he lives 2 blocks from me and Erin is on the race team with his GF (trying not to name names here). If you happen to come around Oct 6th my father puts on a hill climb TT I'd LOVE to see you smash. Hell I'll pay your entry.
After watching those old clips of the early days of VC, You look your best today. Kudos bro. You can clearly see that Vegan Glow radiating from you. Amazing changes after 5 years of vegan. That's when most of the metabolic damage has repaired itself and the real gains kick in. May not have a 5 w/kg FTP, but you feel amazing just living clean. Btw, showing up for races in the van is the shizzz. I couldn't have it any other way!!
Oh wow this is what i am doing now. Reloading the gun for another TT 3wks out. It is uncanny. Where do my balls go? When is my disc getting here. Which risers should i install. The chain needs a speed wax. Can i destroy my PR. This is it. Breathe.
Zwift is awesome for intervalls. It has totally ruined outside intervall training for me:) I heard someone said that you have your own jersey in zwift? Is that so, if so what is the code to get it?
To get the Jersey you need to join the event I am throwing on August 7th or the first Wednesday of every month. Gonna be sick! Stay tuned for the official announcement.
The Vegan Cyclist Nice! Hopefully it is at a respectable time for us from Europe. And great video! Got a the Mountain TT state champs for us in the under 17 cat in 5 weeks where I want to get the win after I got 2nd in the TT champs. So thanks for this training advice!
Yo Dude, I love the videos you make. I gotta say, you have such a gift in going deep and your numbers are impressive, but I feel like you don't get the results to match? From your racing videos I've seen, you love being active at the front of the race and always seem to be going off the front. I wonder if you conserved yourself better and race smarter, you'd have more results by now? Reminds me of Lance Armstrong's 'It's Not About The Bike'. He mentions wanting to tear the legs off his rivals but that meant he always used to go too early and blow.
27 mph for 10 miles sounds amazingly fast to me. I don't know of any local racer who can manage that. One TT racer who has been "stalking" me on Strava did 12 miles at an average speed of 25.4 mph at an average power output of 300 watts. The very next day I beat his KOM with an average speed of 26.8 mph, but that was on a racing recumbent. I doubt I could have averaged even 23 mph on a TT bike.
It might have helped if you “undergeared” yourself on the TT bike and spun at a higher cadence than you would on the road bike. I’m a professional triathlete and I always use a cadence of around 100-105 since you can’t actually push as hard on the pedals!
probably there were another factors (environmental, position etc..) due to the fact that its almost impossible to add 2.7 km/h by adding 31 watts when ridding in this speed
My smart trainer watts are so much lower than I can produce on the road. I can barely maintain 200 watts on the smart trainer for a few minutes. Anyone know what’s up?
A lot of people have the same issue I heard (I don't have a trainer myself, but read about it). Probably heat and position too stiff (cannot move as on the road)
That bike actually looked pretty good on you fit wise. Smaller is lighter and it allowed you to have a more forward position. Some time trialists actually prefer smaller bikes. Just saying. Great video thanks!!
So on the road bike I like to spin high, but in the TT position its so hard to spin fast and not rock all over the place. Towards the end I got better at it but still liked a cadence around 70-80 in the TT position.
I think 95% of your "gains" are adaptation to the TT position. Its really insane how much power you lose when in a position you dont really know well. It feels like : " How can this little watts be so hard when i have done more than that on my roadbike without any problem"
Hey Tyler were the pedals you had trouble with the Favero Assiomas? I’ve recently experienced greatly decreased battery 🔋 life in my left pedal, and a guy I know on Strava has had more serious battery problems. I really love my pedals but am a bit concerned.
Nice job on the improvements and thanks for the video! Can you share some of the stretching/yoga/mobility work you did to improve your position? It seems like off the bike work is a big factor on a TT bike (or even when getting aero on a road bike).
TTs are about CDA and fit and not so much about watts. If you had invested the time to get a proper aero fit you would have been faster at 280W compared to the 320 in the end. It's not hard to be reasonably good in a time trial if you already have good FTP. Get a fit and spend the easy days (Sweet Spot/Tempo) on the TT bike.
Brother, I've been riding a TT bike that's been too small for me 10 years. I went and got it fit. You could probably pick up a used aluminum one on eBay for cheap.
What chainrings are you running (front sprockets) @90 rpm in 11t rear 50/34 - 11/28 = 32.86mph 52/36 - 11/28 = 34.17mph 53/39 - 11/28 = 34.83mph 54/42 - 11/28 = 35.49mph I am running 50t in my front "giving up" 3mph on 90 rpm. I am seriously ready to switch my chainrings..
Question: where can I find that TT training plan in Training Peaks? Something to try over the winter, to increase baseline power output, for my Triathlon efforts 😉
3:56. “Day two also had me trying to figure out where to put my balls...”. That’s real analysis right there, people.
Went to the comments expecting to see this exact line quoted
Get well d00d! Have plenty of time to catch up on Norcalcycling and the VC videos over next couple mths i'm sure. -U10
Ball placement is the underrated subject in cycling
the illustrious woodcock johnson
Very well timed video for me. When I was 18 I used to race and had a top 3 time on a local 10 mile tt. Then I broke my back and had 2 yrs in a wheel chair and 8 years off the bike. I’ve been riding again for 2 years and my fitness is just starting to get good. I’m heading back to where I grew up on Thursday and am going to try and beat my 18 year old self on that same race. Been getting my position dialed in the last few weeks. Really enjoyed the video. Has me more stoked up to go then I already was!
Dude this video was really interesting , I think you should do more training programs they make some killer content 🤙
Not a Vegan or a racer but I never miss your video's as they are some of the absolute best online as they are both interesting and funny. I really enjoy them.
On day 11 you’re complaining about not having anything on the legs. But on day 10 you decided to do a race instead of recovery.
You sound like my coach lol
FWIW I've had it happen to me and done the same. Sometimes it's just about psychologically showing yourself you are strong. I had nothing in my legs thur, sub 1k watt sprint, did 1236w SEATED last night. Mentally being on point is just as important as physically
Totally can happen!!!...sometimes!
I did a race up an HC climb (0-1500m in 21km on a Saturday in June. Legs were hurting walking up stairs the next day. Road race on Monday (public holiday)- best legs ever!!
My thought exactly. Don't complain about the workouts when you don't follow the plan...
I understand though. If it’s what you can handle mentally that’s fair, but then complaining about it comes off a bit whiny. No hate though love your vids.
Undergoing the transition from being used to a road position to TT position right now. I totally feel you. The beginning is so accurate haha
Okay so.. the amount of time and effort that was put in to this video 😲
Amazing work man. And also, your fitness is getting there 😃💪
Your enthusiasm is amazing bruh. Keep it up!
The relative openness of the hips is what affects your power on the TT bike. It is very different between the two types of bike. Could have been your position above the pedals on a bike not fitted to you.
You should have a TT saddle which is positioned right below the sitz and really only supports you (boys are way out in front).
Recommend the pigeon for TT position. Stretches gluts at the same time. Work your way to laying flat. Works.
Pedals by Garmin? Work as designed (poorly).
Congrats on the KOM. If you are going uphill, how did that work on the TT?
Rocked the 10 miler.
Love your videos, keep them coming!
If you had put a picture of Ivan Drago on the wall next to your zwift set up = +18-25 watts.
LOL
AHAHAHAH
This is accurate. I've done it.
If you additionally listen to Rocky vs. Ivan theme during the fight = New FTP is your old VO2Max.
I really, really, really liked this particular video. Great stuff always, but this one was a step up.
Perfect timing! I have my first ever Time Trial race on Thursday. Thank you!
I've never been so interested at such a long video
i was riveted the whole way through
awesome that your aero gains were so palpable
Love these training plan type of videos! Please do more of these!!
Great Vid!
It might interest you to know that in the UK the amateur 10mi TT National Champs was Won in 2015 on a bike that cost less than £1000 & no power meter, computer or HRM. So often riding on feel can sometimes be better... sometimes
If you just train w a power meter (bikes at the gym for me) you can get a good feel about where you should be to keep power and you train it in there
Yea half the kit was donated to him 🤣
Tyler i totally get what your saying and unless you try it and apply yourself you won understand. I watched your video and thought exactly and even the zwift races thanks
Really enjoyed this video. Spent 2 hours setting up my time trial bike properly now, feeling inspired to get in the hours in the aero position after this!
TT bikes are for invertebrates.
LOLOL....that one got me good.
Tyler and going for hero breakaways. Name a more iconic duo
Great run through!! Zwift really is great! It has made me fitter in the winter during “off season” than the summer months. Haha
This was a great video. I enjoyed the balance of a technical training video with VC flair of course. Keep on
This video taught me that zwift races are a suitable substitute for any workout
For real though, I freaking love zwift racing.
Really enjoyed this video T!!! Well done, what an improvement over such a short period of time! Have been doing TTs for a few months now and like it a lot. Got 8th last Saturday with 45.2kph av over 22kms. Am curious if you'll keep this up. Perhaps it really suits you, I guess so!
Do a yoga for cyclists video please. Thanks
Yeah and warm up/warm down stretches if he does them.
Yes
Yes please
yoGA with Adrienne has a yoga for cyclists video.
That's awesome idea !!
Try watching TV or reading while in an areo position. When I first started tt position, I couldn't do more 20 mins, now I can do 112 miles at 90% tt. Core works helps a lot. As for the balls issue, I don't actually sit on my saddle, I balance my bum on the beak of my time trial saddle... otherwise, after 4 or 5 hours, you can forget about any more kids
Who keeps disliking these videos??? Just stop watching them! Great video Tyler!
@@thebullhornjournal has to be! 🤣
Gj, sounds like time trial has good carry overs for overall fitness. I see some comparisons between your 2 week program and how I train in powerlifting. Just watching these videos is helping me get the lingo, abbreviations, typical racing environments and conditions... all helping me on my road bike journey. I could have had a road bike over 10 years ago but didnt have the 900 bucks cash to buy it, stuck with mountain biking since then, using a hybrid bike now. It sucks but I'll use what I have.
good job. good vid. a week of tapering before race might be another useful trick. saving your matches for your tt stage could give u another boost. but its good you gave yourself for the team the stage before. i understand your team gets two chances to win when you go into a break and go full hero mode. next time they can give you the limo ride all day the day before the tt.
T - regarding "ball placement", just continue to tweak that ISM saddle. A tiny tilt angle adjustment can result in a major improvement in comfort! I don't even own a TT bike, but have been demo-ing several of their saddles, and am a true believer in their design concepts. I think it was Phil Gaimon that turned me on to their stuff when he started his video series a couple of years, right after I'd purchased my road bike, and was having comfort issues on the saddle. Give more than one model a shot, and don't be afraid to experiment with setup.
Between TT training and swimming. A little bit of run training and you’ll be in Kona in no time!! :)
Great video bro, they really inspire. Totally sympathize with the "pain" of a TT fit, def a lengthy process, no fun. Glad it became fun in time for you.
The more I watch you, the more I love you.
Huge awesome dad to awesome dad hugs dude.
Love from Canada :)
Never clicked on a VC video so fast !!! :D
Bro, that outro was on point!
Awesome vid!! Love that you share the training plan with us!!
ALWAYS enjoy your training videos...very helpful
I’ve found a lot variation for power irl vs Zwift especially in Intervals in Erg mode.
Tyler - Awesome video man. Couple of things I noted. #1 you should have done/should do a FTP test (just do a ramp test bro) in the TT position to determine your correct FTP for that position. As you noted you couldn't hold the prescribed power as the position is so much different. Proper zones is going to allow you to finish those workouts. #2 I'm not so sure that bike is too small. Before you buy anything get a TT fit by someone that does TT fits. Everything I've heard is that the TT bike is generally a size smaller than your normal road frame size. But again...if you're going to drop that money get a fit first and make sure you get the right size and are in the best position to make power and be aero (and are legal in case someone decides the UA-cam hero should have their bike checked). #3 when are you coming to PA to visit your coach? Turns out he lives 2 blocks from me and Erin is on the race team with his GF (trying not to name names here). If you happen to come around Oct 6th my father puts on a hill climb TT I'd LOVE to see you smash. Hell I'll pay your entry.
im training for the 24 hour TT World champs in cali
@Brainjock pretty self explanatory isnt it?
Did the relay a couple years ago. Those top guys are amazing. Best of luck.
@Brainjock like they hour record but for 24 hours. Whoever rides the furthest in 24hr wins.
This is still one of my favorite videos!
Watched this again for about the 20th time..you crack me up!!
Another class video from VC
Great video. In trying to do a TT and these type of videos are really helpful. I feel that road race is out of my league, but might be able to do. TT.
5:04 - Which yoga pose requires toilet brush ?) Great video btw😇
Hahaha!
TT is the best road discipline - all about you without any of the pack games.
Yea I just recently got into cycling (gravel), but I really see myself being pulled towards TT.
You ARE a spectacular inspiration!
Awesome video, awesome outcome!
After watching those old clips of the early days of VC, You look your best today. Kudos bro. You can clearly see that Vegan Glow radiating from you. Amazing changes after 5 years of vegan. That's when most of the metabolic damage has repaired itself and the real gains kick in. May not have a 5 w/kg FTP, but you feel amazing just living clean.
Btw, showing up for races in the van is the shizzz. I couldn't have it any other way!!
Appreciate your content 👍 keep making great stuff
Heck yeh!!!!!! Nice upload. We want more!!!!!!!
Awesome video VC!!!
outdoor watts are always higher than indoor watts an TT Watts are alway lower than roadbike watts
Congratulations on you 100k subs. Your content is 🔥🔥🔥
Oh wow this is what i am doing now. Reloading the gun for another TT 3wks out. It is uncanny. Where do my balls go? When is my disc getting here. Which risers should i install. The chain needs a speed wax. Can i destroy my PR. This is it.
Breathe.
Hey bro you did great. Great advices for my to start my tri b training.
dude, you should do a review of that van setup
Zwift is awesome for intervalls. It has totally ruined outside intervall training for me:)
I heard someone said that you have your own jersey in zwift? Is that so, if so what is the code to get it?
hvah Id also like to know
To get the Jersey you need to join the event I am throwing on August 7th or the first Wednesday of every month. Gonna be sick! Stay tuned for the official announcement.
The Vegan Cyclist Nice! Hopefully it is at a respectable time for us from Europe. And great video! Got a the Mountain TT state champs for us in the under 17 cat in 5 weeks where I want to get the win after I got 2nd in the TT champs. So thanks for this training advice!
Yo Dude, I love the videos you make. I gotta say, you have such a gift in going deep and your numbers are impressive, but I feel like you don't get the results to match? From your racing videos I've seen, you love being active at the front of the race and always seem to be going off the front. I wonder if you conserved yourself better and race smarter, you'd have more results by now? Reminds me of Lance Armstrong's 'It's Not About The Bike'. He mentions wanting to tear the legs off his rivals but that meant he always used to go too early and blow.
I have zero sprint. So sitting in at a crit or flat road race gives me a zero chance of winning. I am more of a domistiqe than anything
Nice job I'm looking forward to more TT videos on your own machine which your mph will be more then 27 mph I'm sure of it....🤙🤙🤙🤙
27 mph for 10 miles sounds amazingly fast to me. I don't know of any local racer who can manage that. One TT racer who has been "stalking" me on Strava did 12 miles at an average speed of 25.4 mph at an average power output of 300 watts. The very next day I beat his KOM with an average speed of 26.8 mph, but that was on a racing recumbent. I doubt I could have averaged even 23 mph on a TT bike.
I love TTs and zwift races
Bruh ..!! U could have told us this was a Zwift commercial. Lol. Playin. I agree
Could you post the details of your program ? number of set , / series / time off / work time / effort level ?
When are you and Cam going to Zwift race again?? 😎🚴🏻♂️🏆
It might have helped if you “undergeared” yourself on the TT bike and spun at a higher cadence than you would on the road bike. I’m a professional triathlete and I always use a cadence of around 100-105 since you can’t actually push as hard on the pedals!
Can you make a workout video for strength core training? Really interesting subject.
probably there were another factors (environmental, position etc..)
due to the fact that its almost impossible to add 2.7 km/h by adding 31 watts when ridding in this speed
Bro.. Canyon has some sick tt bikes
Those are great bikes, but that speed concept is right with them.
My smart trainer watts are so much lower than I can produce on the road. I can barely maintain 200 watts on the smart trainer for a few minutes. Anyone know what’s up?
A lot of people have the same issue I heard (I don't have a trainer myself, but read about it). Probably heat and position too stiff (cannot move as on the road)
Dipsy Teletubbie ah ok, thankyou that’s true.
Bobby
That’s quite typical. For me 5-10% lower on trainer.
Major causes: physiological(heat stress) and biomechanical(fixed position on trainer).
great video, looking at doing TT's so this was good inspiration
Favourite VC video
That bike actually looked pretty good on you fit wise. Smaller is lighter and it allowed you to have a more forward position. Some time trialists actually prefer smaller bikes. Just saying. Great video thanks!!
Love the vid. What was the synth tune at the end?
Awesome video! Stupid question, but isn't your cadence on the lower end?
So on the road bike I like to spin high, but in the TT position its so hard to spin fast and not rock all over the place. Towards the end I got better at it but still liked a cadence around 70-80 in the TT position.
The Vegan Cyclist Okay, knew there was a good reason! Thanks for the answer, another amazing video from you.
Can you please make a video with an honest review of the giro vanquish helmet?
How fast do you think you would have done the TT part in your roadbike?
I think 95% of your "gains" are adaptation to the TT position. Its really insane how much power you lose when in a position you dont really know well. It feels like : " How can this little watts be so hard when i have done more than that on my roadbike without any problem"
Hey Tyler were the pedals you had trouble with the Favero Assiomas? I’ve recently experienced greatly decreased battery 🔋 life in my left pedal, and a guy I know on Strava has had more serious battery problems. I really love my pedals but am a bit concerned.
Nice job on the improvements and thanks for the video!
Can you share some of the stretching/yoga/mobility work you did to improve your position? It seems like off the bike work is a big factor on a TT bike (or even when getting aero on a road bike).
That power2max classic is a bullet proof power meter
TTs are about CDA and fit and not so much about watts. If you had invested the time to get a proper aero fit you would have been faster at 280W compared to the 320 in the end. It's not hard to be reasonably good in a time trial if you already have good FTP. Get a fit and spend the easy days (Sweet Spot/Tempo) on the TT bike.
11:06 right when that headwind strikes
Sick outro track! Love it :)
Tumbsdown are from your competitors
Brother, I've been riding a TT bike that's been too small for me 10 years. I went and got it fit. You could probably pick up a used aluminum one on eBay for cheap.
So the time your power meter doesn't work, you go 1 mph faster.
Maybe going by feel is good to free limitations?
You must be really loving Lebowsky
Great video man! But I don't get that bento box thing. Why didn't you take it off? Or did I miss the information in the video?
Great story! Could you do a video on your stretching routine? Cheers
Really interesting video.
What chainrings are you running (front sprockets)
@90 rpm in 11t rear
50/34 - 11/28 = 32.86mph
52/36 - 11/28 = 34.17mph
53/39 - 11/28 = 34.83mph
54/42 - 11/28 = 35.49mph
I am running 50t in my front "giving up" 3mph on 90 rpm.
I am seriously ready to switch my chainrings..
Hey VC, so you mentioned in the video you use HVMN Ketone Ester. Do you think it actually makes any difference?
100%. It should be considered doping
@@TheVCAdventures Are you already on a Keto diet? I wonder if the Ketone works well if you are not in ketosis.
@@mrJoey3131 It probably works better on regular diets...extra fuel source. Carb power + ketone power.
Hey vc!great video!A zwift race is considered endurance or intervaled training?
Great video and very impressive Gains.
So, what happened to the TT bike you used when you did the TT beginners tips vid?
Can you give some tips on core work to be able to hold those agressive aero TT positions?
Planks a good place to start and superman pose.
Brilliant - great job 😊
Question: where can I find that TT training plan in Training Peaks? Something to try over the winter, to increase baseline power output, for my Triathlon efforts 😉
How long does it take to get accustomed to the TT position and riding in the aero position out on the road? Feels so jittery and unstable..
Is there any chance, that you could send your 21 days workout schedule