Good video just would recommend a few things: 1. Remove the spline prior to cutting the pieces. 2. Put a book with a gallon of water or large ceramic floor tile in the middle of the screen before you install the spline this will help keep tension to avoid the hourglass shape or bowing in of the long side pieces. 3. Purchase the Screen Tight brand roller tool from Lowes or Home Depot it is bigger and will not cut the screen like that metal one will. 4. If you have extra spline or the old spline cut some 3"-4" pieces and then pre-roll each groove in the corner and install part way the short pieces of spline to ensure no wrinkles.
Thanks,Bill!!... going over your point #4.. if I understood right... you recommend cutting 3”-4” pieces of spline.. installing them on each corner.. and then rolling the shorter splines first (assuming a rectangular frame) .. finally rolling the LONGER splines.. is that right??- Thank you, Carlos.
Rule 2, expanded version: Even a seemingly small excess of tension/tightness in the screen will cause the frame to bend into an hourglass shape, especially the longer sides. To prevent this problem, create extra slack of the screen material by tiling heavy books or other flat heavy objects inside the frame and on top of the screen material, before you fasten the screen material with the spline. After installing, do not cut off excess screen material until you have checked that the frame has straight edges, by placing each edge on a flat table and looking underneath it. Passing some thin cardboard or thick paper is another good method to check for bending. In fact, do not trim off any excess screen material until you have tried installing the screen, just to be sure. Just thought this was a more clear way to say it. Feel free to use it. Thanks for the original tip, it is very good. Bending caused my original attempt to have gaps that insects could get through, and I wasted screen material because I foolishly trimmed off the excess without checking straightness and fit.
Your video here was the better of the 5 that I watched. I especially liked the trick of marking your cut by physically including the corners. I credit your instruction for the good results that I had making my screen. Thanks.
nicely done , lil tip if your house windows are not as pretty, measure 2x cut once. function over form test fit is a must(pre screen) then roll screen. if it fits nice! if not well you might have to start over, the screens have some play just get it the best you can to make it work:D
Arm chair quarterback here. If you cut a piece of trim and place it between you long side, that will help minimize the "squeeze" that occurs when you set the screen with the spline tool
Great video, my suggestion is inserting a thin piece of wood at the center of frame while you re screen to avoid the screen from pulling in at the center.
I'am 81yr old female trying hard, will this kit work for repair of one side of a 23W X 57L window? your directions were explained so good I think I can do this if, this is the right fit! 🙃Thank you
I totally had an AH HA moment when you added the corner pieces..DUH..I didn't account for those and my screen was too big...lol doing it again YOUR way! Thanks!
wow I bet that was worth the support ! great video and even greater time in thought of all the difficultys one might have....im glad to be an american today !
I just bought a house and not a single window has a screen. Thank you for this video. I will be getting those kits and be able to keep the bugs out and the cat in.
Thank you for a very well explained frame and screen install. Much appreciated I did like ,subscribe ,and hit the bell! Look forward to more of your videos
Appreciate you .Here I was doing math 😂. I just clamped the screen to the frame on the end I was installing the spline. Did opposite ends came out good
A very fine-toothed saw blade (small teeth) will work a lot better than one with fewer and larger teeth. Large teeth will hang up on the thin aluminum frame. Before assembly, you can clean up the cuts with a razor knife too, or anything sharp.
I think have Caradco crank windows as well. I think it’s the Heritage I or II. It has these hook locks that is mostly flush with the pocket. It also has these 4 female ports on the pocket. I almost think there was a screen that popped in there. Do you think a DIY like this one would fit enough on these? Someday if we keep these windows, I would like to find the OEM style screens for them, but I’m hoping a kit would work to get us there.
Hey Edmund, thanks for the recommendation. Sounds like you need to replace the screen but also you are having issues with the rollers/track where the door isn't sliding open smoothly?
Thanks!!! Help, I live in a manufactured home with old, old aluminum frame windows. Any tips? *Update: I ended up making screen frames out of wood and using my router to create the screen spline channels. The aluminum frame kits were more expensive since I had to replace every window screen in my house.
Excellent tutorial. I'm wondering why I cannot find a similar tutoral, but with STEEL screen mesh. That thing is sturdier, but it also it is a PITA to lay flat, get it straight and cut it. And the debri that it leaves... I wish I knew that before commiting on a whole roll that weights like a small child. Thank you.
This video briefly mentions metal screen vs. fiberglass screen. The big difference with the metal screen is that you do a first pass with the roller tool, using the convex end, and without the spline, forming the metal screen into the groove. Then you come back around and insert the spline, using the concave end of the roller tool: ua-cam.com/video/VzsgydHbY1g/v-deo.html
Not the way I would measure windows for a screen, I measure the opening size, and then add the frame width to my measurements for the vinyl windows that have the channel for the frame on all four sides. The screen frame is distorted from the mesh because the frame was not taped down to the table.
Thanks for sharing. I am not in love with the material quality / robustness of the common replacement frame kits like the one used in this video. I will try taping it down next time to see if that helps but I think the problem most will see when it comes to distortion of the frame would come from the tightness of the screen after installing the spline.
You said if I has any questions to ask? I want to know I want to build a screen for my bedroom for a rented Apt that my kids broke but I want it to look like the same as all the others so is there any way I can make it without those plastic corners on them???
I am trying to find your video on putting the screen in the frame, but the link in your video doesn’t work and I can’t find it on your channel. Does it no longer exist? Thank you for the video.
I have big windows. Do I build one large screen, or build two and place one above the other? The windows are about 36 x 72. Do they sell kits that large to build one, large screen?
Thanks for this video, but I would like to know how to make one for a double-hung window and how to make a screen for an exterior door panel. I keep breaking it, but it is not detachable. I would like to convert it to a detachable screen on my door.
As a rookie I tried doing it myself just with a hacksaw and matching it with the old frame and now I got few gaps on the sides...I don't have a work table to cut on
I built a screen that is 63 inches tall by about 32inches.It really bowed in in the middle. I tried to not pull too hard when putting in the screen. How can I make it stay straight?
Yeah, that can be an issue with these kits and especially the larger screens. Even with the screen wanting to bow does the window have a channel for the screen which might straighten things out once installed?
No channel. I had to take it apart and tape the frame down on all four sides to make the frame didn't bow in. It worked perfectly. So, if you are doing large screen, tape them down and take measurements on each end and the middle. This will assure the frame stays square.
So the mosquitoes come in to the opening along the edges on the the outside because it bows inward don't they have a center section that you could put in with tees that would support the center of the screen so it doesn't Bow in
I just made a screen from a kit and the 4 plastic corners that puts it together it made the screen not fit at all it practically doesn’t fit the window it just went over the brick idk what to do I need to cut all 4 corners shorter my windows are a little older and I live in an apartment that the screens were damaged and they need replaced and they just won’t fit
I know it's obvious, but under your "parts and tools" if you could add you also need a roll of screening. I automatically thought the kit from Amazon included the screening.
The screen frame should be installed the other way around to hide the black rubber to the interior residents. So the tab should be installed on the other side of the screen.
Can't stand when people paint the edge of the molding around windows and doors the same color as the wall. Attention to that detail makes a tremendous difference. Thanks for the video..
I am in an apartment with very old metal windows. There is a space for a screen but of course no screens anymore. The space for the screen mold is only 3/16" and so far I can't find a kit. I have been toying with building a wood frame but would rather use metal because I can't imagine sliding a wood frame back and forth to open the window. Yes the window is on the outside and the screen would be on the inside. Any help here?
"Height ... is probably the most difficult measurement to take." Indeed. Which is why it would have been really, really helpful if you had explained exactly you came up with the figure 35 5/8". I know you added something, but you never state how much. An 1/8"maybe?
Screen tight frames are just junk - even without the tension it will have a curve top and bottom . They make them in the factory and then if you buy a set like this you are throwing money away . just too flimsy - video is sponsored obviously .
Used to pay $150.00 to have it custom made. I am so thankful for your content!
Good video just would recommend a few things: 1. Remove the spline prior to cutting the pieces. 2. Put a book with a gallon of water or large ceramic floor tile in the middle of the screen before you install the spline this will help keep tension to avoid the hourglass shape or bowing in of the long side pieces. 3. Purchase the Screen Tight brand roller tool from Lowes or Home Depot it is bigger and will not cut the screen like that metal one will. 4. If you have extra spline or the old spline cut some 3"-4" pieces and then pre-roll each groove in the corner and install part way the short pieces of spline to ensure no wrinkles.
Awesome advice, thank you!!! I'm having to replace every single screen in my house just now. 👏
Thanks,Bill!!... going over your point #4.. if I understood right... you recommend cutting 3”-4” pieces of spline.. installing them on each corner.. and then rolling the shorter splines first (assuming a rectangular frame) .. finally rolling the LONGER splines.. is that right??- Thank you, Carlos.
@@karinaport Correct!! and just take your time!!
Thank you for your advice! Helped a lot, wish I knew this before I started lol oh well
Rule 2, expanded version: Even a seemingly small excess of tension/tightness in the screen will cause the frame to bend into an hourglass shape, especially the longer sides. To prevent this problem, create extra slack of the screen material by tiling heavy books or other flat heavy objects inside the frame and on top of the screen material, before you fasten the screen material with the spline. After installing, do not cut off excess screen material until you have checked that the frame has straight edges, by placing each edge on a flat table and looking underneath it. Passing some thin cardboard or thick paper is another good method to check for bending. In fact, do not trim off any excess screen material until you have tried installing the screen, just to be sure.
Just thought this was a more clear way to say it. Feel free to use it. Thanks for the original tip, it is very good. Bending caused my original attempt to have gaps that insects could get through, and I wasted screen material because I foolishly trimmed off the excess without checking straightness and fit.
Thank you so much! I followed your video exactly, and after one bad measurement and a return to the store later, I’ve got a brand new window screen.
😂 pretty sure we all have multiple trips to the store more often than we would like to admit.
Your video here was the better of the 5 that I watched. I especially liked the trick of marking your cut by physically including the corners. I credit your instruction for the good results that I had making my screen. Thanks.
I did not see how you added the spring at the bottom, which is why I watched the video!
Me too! I guess I’ll try one of the others.
I appreciate Scott's methodical instructions in the frame construction. Thanks!
Thanks Chris!
Thank you for this video, everything in detail and not too long or too brief. I've got a lot of screens to replace in the apartment
nicely done , lil tip if your house windows are not as pretty, measure 2x cut once. function over form test fit is a must(pre screen) then roll screen. if it fits nice! if not well you might have to start over, the screens have some play just get it the best you can to make it work:D
Video star at 4:00 . Your welcome.
Arm chair quarterback here. If you cut a piece of trim and place it between you long side, that will help minimize the "squeeze" that occurs when you set the screen with the spline tool
I’m so excited, I made one myself and love it, it ended up so well and beautiful.🥰🙏👏👏💪
Hey thanks.. you gave me some confidence… I’m gonna give it a try..
Thank you so MUCH! I would love to open my windows this year. You made it look very doable. Great and clear instructions🤗
Thank you. That's what really helpful.
Great video, my suggestion is inserting a thin piece of wood at the center of frame while you re screen to avoid the screen from pulling in at the center.
THANK YOU soooooo much ! Appreciated your info re: the measurements..i was able to do this all bc of your channel 👍
You’re a beast boy!!!
Beast Mode!
You can measure total length and - 1 1/2” from total length 👍
I'am 81yr old female trying hard, will this kit work for repair of one side of a 23W X 57L window? your directions were explained so good I think I can do this if, this is the right fit! 🙃Thank you
Great video with clear, easy to follow (I hope🙂) instructions. Wish me luck and thank you!!!
Thx bunches. Your tutoring video helped me a lot!🙏💪💕
Awesome, happy to help 🙌
thx for the concise video with explanation on how to make the measurements!
Thank you for the video as always, Scott! Really helpful walkthrough.
I totally had an AH HA moment when you added the corner pieces..DUH..I didn't account for those and my screen was too big...lol doing it again YOUR way! Thanks!
Thank you x 1000!
You bet 👍👍
wow I bet that was worth the support ! great video and even greater time in thought of all the difficultys one might have....im glad to be an american today !
You could use a jig that would keep the sides from pulling in.
I need to learn how to saw as fast as you do!
Hahaha, I wish in real life the projects went at that speed.
How do the leaf springs go in?
I just bought a house and not a single window has a screen.
Thank you for this video. I will be getting those kits and be able to keep the bugs out and the cat in.
Thank you for a very well explained frame and screen install.
Much appreciated
I did like ,subscribe ,and hit the bell!
Look forward to more of your videos
Appreciate you .Here I was doing math 😂. I just clamped the screen to the frame on the end I was installing the spline. Did opposite ends came out good
great vid really helped
good info
A very fine-toothed saw blade (small teeth) will work a lot better than one with fewer and larger teeth. Large teeth will hang up on the thin aluminum frame. Before assembly, you can clean up the cuts with a razor knife too, or anything sharp.
I think have Caradco crank windows as well. I think it’s the Heritage I or II. It has these hook locks that is mostly flush with the pocket. It also has these 4 female ports on the pocket. I almost think there was a screen that popped in there. Do you think a DIY like this one would fit enough on these? Someday if we keep these windows, I would like to find the OEM style screens for them, but I’m hoping a kit would work to get us there.
Good Day ... I like the way you explained. Can you make a video where you make and install a screen for a sliding door hopefully one that can slide
Hey Edmund, thanks for the recommendation. Sounds like you need to replace the screen but also you are having issues with the rollers/track where the door isn't sliding open smoothly?
great thanks
You are welcome!
NICE!!!
Crushing it!!
Thanks!!! Help, I live in a manufactured home with old, old aluminum frame windows. Any tips?
*Update: I ended up making screen frames out of wood and using my router to create the screen spline channels. The aluminum frame kits were more expensive since I had to replace every window screen in my house.
I'm in home depot they got aluminum ones
@@christianflores3437 👍 Thank you!!!
Thanks
Really cool video. Only thing is my windows have the pull pins to lock the screen into the groove. How to deal with that?
Same w
I have the very same issue and don’t see a kit that allows for that kind of installation. Does one exist?
which leaf springs did u use ?
Thanks!
Excellent tutorial. I'm wondering why I cannot find a similar tutoral, but with STEEL screen mesh. That thing is sturdier, but it also it is a PITA to lay flat, get it straight and cut it. And the debri that it leaves... I wish I knew that before commiting on a whole roll that weights like a small child. Thank you.
This video briefly mentions metal screen vs. fiberglass screen. The big difference with the metal screen is that you do a first pass with the roller tool, using the convex end, and without the spline, forming the metal screen into the groove. Then you come back around and insert the spline, using the concave end of the roller tool:
ua-cam.com/video/VzsgydHbY1g/v-deo.html
Did you mean to say, “PUTA?”
Not the way I would measure windows for a screen, I measure the opening size, and then add the frame width to my measurements for the vinyl windows that have the channel for the frame on all four sides.
The screen frame is distorted from the mesh because the frame was not taped down to the table.
Thanks for sharing. I am not in love with the material quality / robustness of the common replacement frame kits like the one used in this video. I will try taping it down next time to see if that helps but I think the problem most will see when it comes to distortion of the frame would come from the tightness of the screen after installing the spline.
I got a kit but do not have a spline roll tool. Is it a must or can I just push it in using something else?
I am trying to put a middle support but I haven't figure out how to put the chrome part inside to clip it
The other video does not pop up in the right corner. Where can I locate it? Thank you!!
I use a nickle no spline tool required...
where do you buy the screen kit
You said if I has any questions to ask? I want to know I want to build a screen for my bedroom for a rented Apt that my kids broke but I want it to look like the same as all the others so is there any way I can make it without those plastic corners on them???
Question
Is it better to put the screen on the outside of your house or inside?
To reduce save on electricity bill.
Did you purchase the screen separate from the kit?
I did, just purchase a role of 36 inch wide fiberglass screen. Best of luck on the project!
Nice video, what are your thoughts on making a frame
on a double hung window
4 1/2 ft and applying a horizontal part of the frame in the center
I am trying to find your video on putting the screen in the frame, but the link in your video doesn’t work and I can’t find it on your channel. Does it no longer exist? Thank you for the video.
Very informative video this one is thanks dear friend
Thanks Syed 👍
I have big windows. Do I build one large screen, or build two and place one above the other? The windows are about 36 x 72. Do they sell kits that large to build one, large screen?
Thanks for this video, but I would like to know how to make one for a double-hung window and how to make a screen for an exterior door panel. I keep breaking it, but it is not detachable. I would like to convert it to a detachable screen on my door.
As a rookie I tried doing it myself just with a hacksaw and matching it with the old frame and now I got few gaps on the sides...I don't have a work table to cut on
I built a screen that is 63 inches tall by about 32inches.It really bowed in in the middle. I tried to not pull too hard when putting in the screen. How can I make it stay straight?
Yeah, that can be an issue with these kits and especially the larger screens. Even with the screen wanting to bow does the window have a channel for the screen which might straighten things out once installed?
No channel. I had to take it apart and tape the frame down on all four sides to make the frame didn't bow in. It worked perfectly. So, if you are doing large screen, tape them down and take measurements on each end and the middle. This will assure the frame stays square.
I have been limited to my "handy man" capacity a stroke left of as a 'hand man' which not surprisingly makes everything twice as challenging. Haha
I need some exterior storm windows and was wondering if anybody knows of where I can buy some at a reasonable price?
In my area Menard has a reasonable supply.
I enjoyed the video. Great job mr potato head
Im trying to change out the window screens at work. But the springs are on the side, not the top or bottom......
So its pretty much stuck..😓
easy peasy just wish I had a hand saw instead of my table saw ha!
Can't find any already made
So the mosquitoes come in to the opening along the edges on the the outside because it bows inward don't they have a center section that you could put in with tees that would support the center of the screen so it doesn't Bow in
I just made a screen from a kit and the 4 plastic corners that puts it together it made the screen not fit at all it practically doesn’t fit the window it just went over the brick idk what to do I need to cut all 4 corners shorter my windows are a little older and I live in an apartment that the screens were damaged and they need replaced and they just won’t fit
I know it's obvious, but under your "parts and tools" if you could add you also need a roll of screening. I automatically thought the kit from Amazon included the screening.
Good wideo but you did not show how to install pull tabs...
Nice video. He's cute. Nice eyes
Im gonna try to put 8 mil clear vinyl for winter insulation. Has anyone ever tried that?
The screen frame should be installed the other way around to hide the black rubber to the interior residents. So the tab should be installed on the other side of the screen.
Really? Wouldn't that make it much harder to remove the screen?
One would think it’s common sense.. but no it’s hard.. and it pisses me off.. so thank you!!
Can't stand when people paint the edge of the molding around windows and doors the same color as the wall. Attention to that detail makes a tremendous difference. Thanks for the video..
4:10 you're welcome
How in the hell did you just willy nilly push those corners in? I had to use a mallet.
WOW! 💯
Show me how you put the springs in. Thats why I came on here
After examining the old a second time
Conclusion=do it right the first time you don't got to do it a second
You installed it inside the house? Don't they get installed outside?
I've never ever seen these installed on the outside. Maybe a regional thing in your area if that's the case.
I am in an apartment with very old metal windows. There is a space for a screen but of course no screens anymore. The space for the screen mold is only 3/16" and so far I can't find a kit. I have been toying with building a wood frame but would rather use metal because I can't imagine sliding a wood frame back and forth to open the window. Yes the window is on the outside and the screen would be on the inside. Any help here?
I'll call it the Replica Screen
X2
"Height ... is probably the most difficult measurement to take." Indeed. Which is why it would have been really, really helpful if you had explained exactly you came up with the figure 35 5/8". I know you added something, but you never state how much. An 1/8"maybe?
Incomplete instructional video
My screen bowed on the sides.
There is nothing below other than thick comments
Lots of talk, no action. Get to it man!
Wow this guy can’t add
You sped up the video during an important part of the process then suggested we watch a different video you made. Bush league dude.
Thanks for the feedback James.
Screen tight frames are just junk - even without the tension it will have a curve top and bottom . They make them in the factory and then if you buy a set like this you are throwing money away . just too flimsy - video is sponsored obviously .
You Did A BAD Job
You Must Do This By
Cutting 45 Degree In The
Corners, I Did Mine Like That
And Not Showing Plastics In The End.
Amén.
To much talking
Great video with clear, easy to follow (I hope🙂) instructions. Wish me luck and thank you!!!