War and thunder is the most underrated drumline in the hbcu....southern wouldn't even challenge them in the boombox classic this year..smh..they called them out the stands.but southern didn't come...smh
Ms Valley State's percussion section should have been invited. It would have been nice to see the three of them displaying their talent at the same event.
@@jaylinjones1744 Maybe, but them fools got so much precision they didn't call them the Navy Seals of Drumlines for nothing, saw their vids by the way. But in your opinion, the only drumline that can beat WT is WT. (EDIT) Then again, MDFS and Cold Steel would be LEGENDARY matchups for WT
I really miss the old alcorn.. All this duplicate of W.T aint gone work.. I like their old pitch basses and that T.O.P sound.. Elmer fudd, white lightning, 31 32 etc But W.T is wayyyy too polished man!!
Bruh u aunt never lying tradition is 💀 on both lines especially with form and top copying off of jsu neither lines play their original cadences anymore
Bruh! You spoke nothing but the truth! You must be an old head T.O.P? Elmer Fudd, White Lighting, new thang, togetherness! I played in the mid 90’s under Ephriam (RIP)
Overview: I'm going to be unbiased. Jackson State's line is a line i thought was overrated until i saw them live in 2012. Ever since then I've been a HUGE fan. Alcorn State has made changes to their line over recent years. Let's see how it ended up. Presence- JSU: 9.5 ASU: 8 Uniformity- JSU: 9.5 TxSU: 8.5 Cleanliness- JSU: 9 ASU: 6.5 Material- JSU: 10 ASU: 7.5 Difficulty- JSU: 10 ASU: 7 Musicality- JSU: 9 ASU: 7.5 Overall- JSU: 9.5, ASU: 7.5 Snares- JSU: 9.5, ASU: 6.5 Tenors- JSU: 9.5 , ASU: 7 Multi Tenors- JSU: 9, ASU: 8 Basses: JSU: 9.5, ASU: 7.5 Cymbals:JSU: 9, ASU: 7 Overall: JSU: 9.3, ASU: 7.2 Final score: JSU: 9.4, ASU: 7.35 Result: JSU with the W. Overall, Neither line was perfect. I heard a little dirt in JSU, and there were some minor flubs here are there, but overall things were very balanced. I heard more dirt and less dynamic contrast in Alcorn's section. Jackson State mostly stayed consistent with their execution of material, while Alcorn had some moments of goodness and other moments where they seemed to drop the ball. While grading sections I tried to be fair while holding both lines to a high collegiate standard. Both lines would be decent enough to provide a meaningful experience for the average high schooler coming in as a freshman, so I won't go so far as to disrespect either line with insinuating anything otherwise. However, at the collegiate level, there is a higher standard, so the bar has been raised. Smaller things are supposed to be noticed, so just being "pretty good" won't be enough to get to the top.. If I were to be biased, JSU would have gotten all 10s, but I couldn't ignore a few moments of dirt and I saw a few minor areas where every single movement was not 100% uniform across the section. However, uniformity has always been strong with WT, but I think their bread and butter has always been their aggression which is top notch and this battle was no exception. Their unifirmity will always be exceptional but I sometimes notice tiny sacrifices for the sake of aggression. Alcorn seems to be heading in that direction, but when JSU has had it as their identity from their inception, the few decades of a head start becomes evident. Honestly, I consider JSU among the top collegiate drumlines, so anyone going up against them will have to be prepared. Most other lines' "A game" is just another Saturday for WT and there's only one line in the SWAC that I see consistently give them headaches every year. (PV) Great battle! Agree? Disagree? What do you think?
1. Cleanliness 2. Execution 3. Difficulty of material 4. Drumline basics (Stick heights, uniformity, etc.) I do it in that order. #4 is sometimes tied with #1.
This isn’t even a biased opinion. WT all the way. Power. Precision. Presence. All around. Now in my very so biased opinion. Slawcorn y’all came with it but y’all cadences childish. And y’all basses wanna be tenors bad af but that’s neither here nor there. Quints really about y’all best section. But anyways #WT #FAYH #2013
Alcorn know better than to go against JState with just one tenor drummer...off the rip they already lost just because of that smh forget the rest of the battle
Isaiah McGriggs what’s wrong with playing older that they made they gonna play em not waste them if the cadences still sound after so many years why stop
When you lose a band director things changes.. TOP will pick back up... WT was small too two years ago so don't say what happen to them.. Just like football team when jsu hate Alcorn kicking there ass in a game... And we will smash that ass again in Nov.. When the Braves come to Jacktown
I could tell WT was gone take the win on the first damn time they played, that cadence is deadly
What’s cool is the way the tradition keep passing down to the freshman who will one day pass it down to the next new group.
War and thunder is the most underrated drumline in the hbcu....southern wouldn't even challenge them in the boombox classic this year..smh..they called them out the stands.but southern didn't come...smh
jbu2009 well we know who DIDNT go to boombox classic 😂
bbrooks225 😂😂😂right
WT is overrated and they deserve to be
@@bbrooks225 lies....southern got eat alive on uglyford....
@@stid9505 lies you and bbrooks tell...fix the turn down ass dorm and stadium
Wtf happen to Alcorn tenor Line ?
🤣🙄🤣
I hope its gone..
Nah I think they didn’t bring the whole t-line 🤷🏾♂️
Folks still pluckin u cant lie 😂💯
😂😂😂
Ms Valley State's percussion section should have been invited. It would have been nice to see the three of them displaying their talent at the same event.
Valley nice
Sound quality is amazing
Am I the only one, when that second cadence started for WT, it just hyped me up
no shade...but T.O.P. looks like an award winning HS drumline vs WT looking like a really solid college drumline
JSU handed out they first of many L’s for 2019. You know WT wasn’t about no games when the weather changed
At this rate, the only drumline I see matching up to WT is Sudden Impact, and WT doesn't see them till September.
DeAndre Noel no offense but sudden impact can’t even look WT way.. they not funky enough
@@jaylinjones1744 Maybe, but them fools got so much precision they didn't call them the Navy Seals of Drumlines for nothing, saw their vids by the way.
But in your opinion, the only drumline that can beat WT is WT.
(EDIT) Then again, MDFS and Cold Steel would be LEGENDARY matchups for WT
@@dre9926 I agree MDF$ would be awesome vs WT and Cold Steel is just a MSD rip off
I wanna see WT vs BLOODY RAIN🔥
@@stid9505 ua-cam.com/video/0k1yqM7J6ho/v-deo.html
I really miss the old alcorn.. All this duplicate of W.T aint gone work.. I like their old pitch basses and that T.O.P sound.. Elmer fudd, white lightning, 31 32 etc
But W.T is wayyyy too polished man!!
They're wt clones
Bruh u aunt never lying tradition is 💀 on both lines especially with form and top copying off of jsu neither lines play their original cadences anymore
What the hell 😂 this mass band cadences lol Lord Jesus
Great job though Christian Cone 👍 and the rest of War and Thunder bass drums we gotta do better 💪
Bruh! You spoke nothing but the truth! You must be an old head T.O.P? Elmer Fudd, White Lighting, new thang, togetherness! I played in the mid 90’s under Ephriam (RIP)
Where calla way and meridian battle?
AnotherSharp tragic ass battle for meridian 😂
GäméTîmé Prøductiøns what you mean by that ?
JSU all the way, all the damn time 💯💪🏾😈‼️
🏀🏐🏐🍌🏉🏈🏉🏈🏓🏓🏓🏌️♀️🏌️♀️🏌️♂️🏌️♀️🏌️♂️🏂🎿⛷🏂⛷
Overview: I'm going to be unbiased. Jackson State's line is a line i thought was overrated until i saw them live in 2012. Ever since then I've been a HUGE fan. Alcorn State has made changes to their line over recent years. Let's see how it ended up.
Presence- JSU: 9.5 ASU: 8
Uniformity- JSU: 9.5 TxSU: 8.5
Cleanliness- JSU: 9 ASU: 6.5
Material- JSU: 10 ASU: 7.5
Difficulty- JSU: 10 ASU: 7
Musicality- JSU: 9 ASU: 7.5
Overall- JSU: 9.5, ASU: 7.5
Snares- JSU: 9.5, ASU: 6.5
Tenors- JSU: 9.5 , ASU: 7
Multi Tenors- JSU: 9, ASU: 8
Basses: JSU: 9.5, ASU: 7.5
Cymbals:JSU: 9, ASU: 7
Overall: JSU: 9.3, ASU: 7.2
Final score: JSU: 9.4, ASU: 7.35
Result: JSU with the W.
Overall, Neither line was perfect. I heard a little dirt in JSU, and there were some minor flubs here are there, but overall things were very balanced. I heard more dirt and less dynamic contrast in Alcorn's section. Jackson State mostly stayed consistent with their execution of material, while Alcorn had some moments of goodness and other moments where they seemed to drop the ball. While grading sections I tried to be fair while holding both lines to a high collegiate standard. Both lines would be decent enough to provide a meaningful experience for the average high schooler coming in as a freshman, so I won't go so far as to disrespect either line with insinuating anything otherwise. However, at the collegiate level, there is a higher standard, so the bar has been raised. Smaller things are supposed to be noticed, so just being "pretty good" won't be enough to get to the top.. If I were to be biased, JSU would have gotten all 10s, but I couldn't ignore a few moments of dirt and I saw a few minor areas where every single movement was not 100% uniform across the section. However, uniformity has always been strong with WT, but I think their bread and butter has always been their aggression which is top notch and this battle was no exception. Their unifirmity will always be exceptional but I sometimes notice tiny sacrifices for the sake of aggression. Alcorn seems to be heading in that direction, but when JSU has had it as their identity from their inception, the few decades of a head start becomes evident. Honestly, I consider JSU among the top collegiate drumlines, so anyone going up against them will have to be prepared. Most other lines' "A game" is just another Saturday for WT and there's only one line in the SWAC that I see consistently give them headaches every year. (PV) Great battle!
Agree? Disagree? What do you think?
For those of you that say JSU won, what criteria are you basing your judgment on?
1. Cleanliness
2. Execution
3. Difficulty of material
4. Drumline basics (Stick heights, uniformity, etc.)
I do it in that order. #4 is sometimes tied with #1.
Why do bass drum solos if its not toner basses. It sound like a bunch of noise.
WT claims another victim. Good job!
They both went Hurd I like both of them 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I can’t wait to see the band this year with some new sounds and moves JSU 🙌🏾
WT with the W. Tower of Power Quints was nice .
were the high school videos
This is it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Deterrion 1k We only captured our programs performance. This was not our event.
PLEASE tell me what mic this was recorded with?!?! Jesus...
YP Visuals Zoom H4n
All jokes aside, is Alcorn's percussion instructor a JSU grad?
No he went to southern
WT SOUND IS TO CRISP N CLEAN...WTttttttt...WAR N THUNDER...Ouuuuuuuuuu
Jsu smacked alcorn and jsu way deeper
Lol. Its the spring.
@@pwolfman1227 what that mean
@@leekman4684 lol. U really think they would have a whole section during the spring.
P Wolfman #12 I mean Jackson did soooo yea
P Wolfman #12 Jackson brought everyone lol
I heard tonal parts from t.o.p or am i trippin?
Michael williams you did i heard em while i was there
Yes our bass drums and tenors alternate to make the sound effects of tonal
For Alcorn to only bring 2 up rights, them niggas thumping that bih. ASU did aight, but JSU got that
Read the title and thought JState was gonna crush the self esteem of a high school band
I did too 💀
I swear i thought the same thing lol
Alcorn has tonal basses?
its funny how su fans always make their way on jsu videos....i spy maybe
They Drumline not worth shit tho tenors sound like ass they band just good
Man what happen on “Still Standing”?
WT looking like the second coming of their golden era.
Oh just Wait 😈
round 2 💪🏽💪🏽WT got this one
This isn’t even a biased opinion. WT all the way. Power. Precision. Presence. All around. Now in my very so biased opinion. Slawcorn y’all came with it but y’all cadences childish. And y’all basses wanna be tenors bad af but that’s neither here nor there. Quints really about y’all best section. But anyways #WT #FAYH #2013
Oh and another thing Slawcorn. Y’all not fonky at all. The last cadence y’all played bumped tho
WT obviously with the W.
JSU20’🔵⚪️
Alcorn know better than to go against JState with just one tenor drummer...off the rip they already lost just because of that smh forget the rest of the battle
LilMane318 they actually got 2 lol you just can see because of the formation
@@jalunreese3902 str8 up 💯💯
JSU took it with ease.
I thought this was gonna be a way better battle, wt really ain’t nothing to play with
Isaiah McGriggs what’s wrong with playing older that they made they gonna play em not waste them if the cadences still sound after so many years why stop
@isaiah mcriggs the only reason most of alcorn cadences new is because y’all just changed y’all style a couple years ago
WT with the W. When are we gonna see RR vs WT
@16:00 that grove FYI
When you lose a band director things changes.. TOP will pick back up... WT was small too two years ago so don't say what happen to them.. Just like football team when jsu hate Alcorn kicking there ass in a game... And we will smash that ass again in Nov.. When the Braves come to Jacktown
G-Wine Back 2 D Basic sounds like someone’s hating😂👀
Sound like alot of jsu fans hate Alcorn..
@@g-wineback2dbasic556cause they wanna be jsu 😂
11:16 whaaattt
Wt with the dub. Way cleaner and balanced
Look at lil Cal
Jim hill class of 08
definitely a great battle
It don't matter how good alcorn gets ...y'all still just alcorn, just as dusty and just as dirty....not the real ASU
Cadence at 13:06 💥💥💣
If you want SU FUNK FACTORY, COME WITH IT!
carl frisby sr. 👌🏾
This don't have nothing to do with that elementary ass drum line
Boy bye! Nobody outside BR wants to see y’all boring ass line
FUNK FACTORY NOT BUILT LIKE DAT.....BUT DEY CAN PLAY, JUS NOT CORP STYLE!
Junk Factory is soooo 1970’s. Smh
This a different kind of ass whoopin
WT🔥
WT with the but I I miss the old WT JSU nice tho this was close
WT deep this year👀
WT 🤫🔥
@5:56
is it me or this video is a lil speed up
djshowoff662 I think it's you fam
WT bring the pain every time
Alcorn plays like a high school trying to be JSU.
WT 04 tphif
#WT #FAYH 💪🏾
WT got that.
really slawcorn....this wasnt even close....
WT some bullies 💪🏿😎
JSU smoked them. 😂
Jsu must let sum old heads come back with all them people over there I’m j/s
Almighty King no. This is the current WT for the Boom
I'm so ready yo
Please stop the solos
without a doubt jsu
WT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
JSU All the way
"Hell Yea, Cone!" lmao
Alcorn starts strong though :9 Tasty :9
Second
Um no good participation though and togetherness but not college level especially from top musical SWAC band programs
wat u mean?
@@Bbaybird21 exactly...wtf does that mean
Huh
You sound like a MEAC n word...gon on somewhere.
They not ready for SU FUNK FACTORY! You all can talk that mess if you want! JUKEBOX FOR LIFE!
I would love to see that battle. How about it directors let's get it.
Su Drumline ain’t worth nothing with them untuned ass chest tenors 😂 they horn section is good that’s it they Drumline is ass