Very helpful, had to set my discord mic to a good level and started looking for loudness meter plugins... turns out, my fabfilter suite had something that did the job already
Hi there, Excellent video in an easy and understandable way on how to use the Pro L-2. I have two questions tho. First off, could you please share the track's name? Secondly, do I have to keep enabling the Unity gain when using the plugin? I get a bit confused about whether I need to keep it active all the time or just need to be enabled to get an indication of when and how much limiting is going on. Thanks, Chris
Do you think it's better to have your mix too quiet initially, so there's no limiting going on when you reach your loudness levels? Maybe the dynamic range is too big with this method? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing a slight peak reduction is the best way to go. I don't like to overly squash the audio. In this video, nothing was being limited. What is everyone's preference?
Hey, personnally I master songs often below the limiting peak so i don't think you MUST be squashing the signal but sometimes it happens so for me it's fine eather way !
What is the purpose of using limiter if dont want to compress audio at all? Limiter is for compression, i always compress on master as much I want and I lower the output to match lufs I want. Using threshold for lufs is something i cant understand. Threshold is for setting up the level of signal that is compressed. Just like normal compresor, you set up gain reduction by threshold then you gain matching with gain knob
Hey, super helpful! I first used Pro-L back in 2013 and made a mess of the job I was producing. I went on a search to find what to use to get my levels right as I was mixing a bunch of TEDx vids. Anyway, I eventually settled on Toneboosters Barricade as my metering and very occasional limiting needs. Then the LUFS thing happened and I used Klangfreund LUFS meter for a while alongside Barricade. With all the other Fab Filter plugs I use religiously: Pro-Q3, Pro-DS and Pro-MB to find this loudness metering in Pro-L is a no brainer, especially with the target built in. Have you looked at Dynameter? I wonder what your thoughts would be? cheers!
True peak limiting can make your transients sound less good then as if you leave it off. So a lot of people turn off true peak limiting and instead they turn down their output level meter until they can see that the true peak levels are hitting below 0db. That's the first reason why. Nowadays a lot of people listen to music on lossy files like mp3. The producers know this, so they turn down their output volume gain even more so that their true peaks hit between - 1db and -0.3db. They do this to make sure that there is no distortion happening when someone transfers their master wav file to an mp3 file cause in this conversion their can also be distortion if the true peaks are to close to 0db. Some people also have a limiter where you can set a ceiling of - 1db this is nearly the same as turning down the output gain knob of the master. So just remember to make you song as loud as you need and let your true peaks not hit above -0.7db and you should be always save.
ah,..bs,...nobody does -14lufs ,...loudness war is back and it's disgusting,....now again the who has more money for better analog devices can get that 1-2 lufs louder masters without artefacts,....other ones like we ar,e are just suckers
Very helpful, had to set my discord mic to a good level and started looking for loudness meter plugins... turns out, my fabfilter suite had something that did the job already
Once you’re happy do you just do a mixdown and you DAW will mixdown with that new level / setting ?
Hi there,
Excellent video in an easy and understandable way on how to use the Pro L-2. I have two questions tho. First off, could you please share the track's name? Secondly, do I have to keep enabling the Unity gain when using the plugin? I get a bit confused about whether I need to keep it active all the time or just need to be enabled to get an indication of when and how much limiting is going on.
Thanks,
Chris
Great run through thanks!
I liked your presentation, thank you! Trying this today.
Do you think it's better to have your mix too quiet initially, so there's no limiting going on when you reach your loudness levels? Maybe the dynamic range is too big with this method? I'm not sure, but I'm guessing a slight peak reduction is the best way to go. I don't like to overly squash the audio. In this video, nothing was being limited. What is everyone's preference?
Hey, personnally I master songs often below the limiting peak so i don't think you MUST be squashing the signal but sometimes it happens so for me it's fine eather way !
What is the purpose of using limiter if dont want to compress audio at all?
Limiter is for compression, i always compress on master as much I want and I lower the output to match lufs I want.
Using threshold for lufs is something i cant understand.
Threshold is for setting up the level of signal that is compressed.
Just like normal compresor, you set up gain reduction by threshold then you gain matching with gain knob
Thanks! Very easy and fast!
Hey, super helpful! I first used Pro-L back in 2013 and made a mess of the job I was producing. I went on a search to find what to use to get my levels right as I was mixing a bunch of TEDx vids. Anyway, I eventually settled on Toneboosters Barricade as my metering and very occasional limiting needs. Then the LUFS thing happened and I used Klangfreund LUFS meter for a while alongside Barricade. With all the other Fab Filter plugs I use religiously: Pro-Q3, Pro-DS and Pro-MB to find this loudness metering in Pro-L is a no brainer, especially with the target built in.
Have you looked at Dynameter? I wonder what your thoughts would be?
cheers!
Why do some engineers set their output to -.10 and some to -1?
True peak limiting can make your transients sound less good then as if you leave it off. So a lot of people turn off true peak limiting and instead they turn down their output level meter until they can see that the true peak levels are hitting below 0db. That's the first reason why. Nowadays a lot of people listen to music on lossy files like mp3. The producers know this, so they turn down their output volume gain even more so that their true peaks hit between - 1db and -0.3db. They do this to make sure that there is no distortion happening when someone transfers their master wav file to an mp3 file cause in this conversion their can also be distortion if the true peaks are to close to 0db. Some people also have a limiter where you can set a ceiling of - 1db this is nearly the same as turning down the output gain knob of the master.
So just remember to make you song as loud as you need and let your true peaks not hit above -0.7db and you should be always save.
ah,..bs,...nobody does -14lufs ,...loudness war is back and it's disgusting,....now again the who has more money for better analog devices can get that 1-2 lufs louder masters without artefacts,....other ones like we ar,e are just suckers