I bought one. 3006. 3 - 18 v6 Leupold on top. Spent 300 plus on ammunition. Best three shot group about 2”. Always 3 minutes between shots. Kimber doesn’t say what ammo they used to achieve sub m o a accuracy. Tried to contact kimber. No response. So I went to my favorite handload. 180 swift sirroco. Accuracy was 1/2”. Velocity 2825. My kimber has a 26” barrel. If I had a do over, I would buy a tika t3. This rifle does all I want, now. But a lot of expense to make it happen!
I have one you are exactly right on your review, I took my stock off and painted it myself and it doesn't look like a cheap stock now , I love the light weight of the rifle and the accuracy
I like the way Kimber did the stock actually. If you take rifle apart and look at the honey combs structure, its genious. It makes the stock rigid without a lot of weight. I dont own one, but did take notice to that and wish other companies would take note of it to rigid up their junk flimsy stocks. Not sure what caliber is the best balance of recoil and stopping power on big game in the lightweight rifles. 7mm-08 maybe.
Good review, thanks! I bought one used with a cracked trigger guard, super-glued it and it seems to be holding up. Sub-moa from the bench, but never got into higher round counts so I can't say if mine starts opening up like yours did. Same complaint about the safety... even took it apart to see if something was broken. Getting very hard to find silver riflescopes & rings..ended up paying a small fortune for a vintage Leupold VX-II 3-9x40. All in all I'm pretty happy with this rifle.
Been thinking about one of these. Needs threads and compensator. You probably doubled the weight putting that heavy vortex on it. Leupold for back country.. brighter lighter more reliable American made scopes
They’re using that razor hd on all of the rifles in this series. That way all rifles are tested on a level playing field. I put a Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 on my wife’s Kimber and it’s a perfect little setup for her. It outshoots my X-bolt all day.
Depends on which Vortex scope you use. I have two 84M’s and topped them with Diamondback scopes…they’re lightweight. I like Leupold too but their quality has gone way down in recent years.
Everyone knocks this rifle, I shoot 178gr eldx factory loads in a half inch group at 100yds. No complaints at all. When finding a factory ammo it did like I have issues closing the bolt with Nosler trophy grade loaded with accubonds….. For whatever reason. But I have shot this rifle out to 500yrds with great accuracy from my 308. I believe it weighs 7.25lbs unloaded.
I have a kimber hunter in 308W and no issues with accuracy. With light rifles hold the forend, instead tucking, non firing hand under butt. It's not a heavy benchrest rifle. Same applies to rifles with two pc stocks.
I’ve bought one and it has the worst groupings I’ve ever shot. I think you get better performance out of a Walmart rifle. I’ve tried absolutely every recommended ammunition for this thing. Nothing makes a difference. So far it’s been a huge waste of money I have like 3" and 4” groupings at 100 yards and that’s with letting the barrel cool down. I’m going to take it to a gunsmith and hopefully that might make a difference but so far this is been a lot of frustration for me and I have buyers remorse.
Sub MOA with 5 shots is great for a light barrel like that. Unless you've got the carbon wrapped tubes, most, if not all, ultralight rifles will tend to wander substantially on the target. Just hope Kimber hasn't sacrificed to much quality to get to this price point.
David Tennyson I mention that in the video and I’m not concerned at all because I don’t plan on having to take that many shots at an animal. The Kimber is a sweet little rifle. I really enjoyed shooting it and I would purchase this rifle all day long. Thank you for watching and thanks for leaving us a comment! We really appreciate it.
You can stop ANY barrel from "walking" as it heats up. All you have to do is send it off to 300 below to get it cryogenically stress relieved. I was extremely skeptical myself, but after building numerous custom bolt rifles, with extensive testing both before and after, I'm a believer. I cannot testify about the other claims, but have quite a lot of proof personally gathered that the barrels, especially pencil contour barrels will not walk after the process.
@@neilsea5771 interesting idea there…care to comment on average cost for a rifle barrel? Of course their website doesn’t say, says to call for pricing…thanks if you’re willing to share
Anyone knows that a larger magazine (5-10 rounds one) could be find for this model? I take this model into count as it has the rare controlled feed action among the affordable bolt action rifles (and available in .308 Winchester too). And maybe a "tactical stock" for it? What can accept bipod?
things you might be missing out in these reviews are safety, in literal sense. Most rifles just lock the trigger (howa, vanguard and all rem 700 clones), but this locks the firing pin aswell. Its a big deal, yes never trust a safety but there is lightyears more safety in a locked firing pin. Thats one of the key differences between the Sauer 100 and 101.
guys love the channel but need your help! I have a brand new Kimber 84M for $640 in my local area. Before I "pull the trigger" I feel like everyone compares this rifle to a Tikka which is around the same price. IN the same breath I have rarely heard from anyone that has shot both. I only have the budget for one and one to buy a one time bolt action and never buy one again. I will be using it for backcountry hunting. Thoughts?! What is your final recommendation!
SPot thanks! Well because it was so cheap I figured grab it and try to find out what I want more accuracy or weight then go from there. I handled the tikka and Kimber together and I felt like for the purpose of brush hunting walking all day I wanted to try the Kimber more. If I try to sell it someone will probably say it goes for $800 so I’ll give you $600 for it which to me is worth the $40 difference to experiment.
@@josiahdecosta5621 Have you shot it yet? I'm interested in getting one too, but I hear the light barrel makes it less accurate. My Tikka is easily sub half MOA with 4 round shots.
These rifles are even in the same league…they’re apples and oranges. The Tikka rifles, although nice, are very different. They’re all built around the same long-action receiver, whereas the Kimbers have appropriately sized actions. The Kimber is far lighter and overall a smaller, more nimble rifle. The Tikka is likely more fun to spend a day at the range with, but if you’re a hunter and walk/backpack for game, the Kimber’s weight wins out. The Mauser style controlled round feeding on the Kimber is also vastly different. The safety also locks out the firing pin, not just trigger/bolt. I’m not going to say there is a winner or loser…I say handle both and figure out what you want from your rifle.
It looks like poor stress relief in the barrel. I had to chase the zero on my Ruger American when it got hot then cool. So long as the consumer knows what they have to put up with as far as zeroing, then they are fine. When you hunt you don't shoot more that 5 shots anyway.
I'm sorry, you get what you pay for. I held one and wasn't impressed. I agree it's a good looking rifle. But, to be honest I never shot one. So, I can't speak to it's accuracy. Thanks for answering that question. But, let's be real this can't be a quality rifle for the price. However, it is nice that those who can't afford a top of the line backcountry rifle can at least get an affordable rifle to enjoy in the backcountry.
Doesn't such a light weight increase the felt recoil?? 5.5 lbs is very light. A Winchester featherweight is 7lbs and they kick a bit in .270. Kinda negates the light kicking calibre doesn't it ? Or do I just buy a shoulder protector for my little pansy shoulder???
Kimber will not back their products, I've been through 4yrs. of trying to get my rifle to shoot, Kimber will never help. They want money, yet once it's sold, you're on your own, they simply have no customer service. I called so many times and sent huge numbers of emails, no help whatsoever, although they responded every time with "Never send back firearms, without proper code". I now have a $1200 boat anchor!
@@johnbaker1289 I know the 280 ai was a problem I tried different bullets, different seating lengths all at kimbers request wasted a ton of money buying different powders and different components, they finally sent me a new mag same issue, I put a stiffer spring in it same issue I got tired of dealing with kimbers bullshit warrenty department and sold the gun
Nice rifle just don't count on kimber if ya need service thay are horrid. Kimber has super high skilled CNC people but thay are not gun people. Just sayin.
I bought one. 3006. 3 - 18 v6 Leupold on top. Spent 300 plus on ammunition. Best three shot group about 2”. Always 3 minutes between shots. Kimber doesn’t say what ammo they used to achieve sub m o a accuracy. Tried to contact kimber. No response. So I went to my favorite handload. 180 swift sirroco. Accuracy was 1/2”. Velocity 2825. My kimber has a 26” barrel. If I had a do over, I would buy a tika t3. This rifle does all I want, now. But a lot of expense to make it happen!
I’m so glad you picked this rifle! It is so under rated! 👌🏼
I have one you are exactly right on your review, I took my stock off and painted it myself and it doesn't look like a cheap stock now , I love the light weight of the rifle and the accuracy
What color did you paint it? I may look into this also
I just went with the kryptek camo stock
I like the way Kimber did the stock actually. If you take rifle apart and look at the honey combs structure, its genious. It makes the stock rigid without a lot of weight. I dont own one, but did take notice to that and wish other companies would take note of it to rigid up their junk flimsy stocks. Not sure what caliber is the best balance of recoil and stopping power on big game in the lightweight rifles. 7mm-08 maybe.
Good review, thanks! I bought one used with a cracked trigger guard, super-glued it and it seems to be holding up. Sub-moa from the bench, but never got into higher round counts so I can't say if mine starts opening up like yours did. Same complaint about the safety... even took it apart to see if something was broken. Getting very hard to find silver riflescopes & rings..ended up paying a small fortune for a vintage Leupold VX-II 3-9x40. All in all I'm pretty happy with this rifle.
Been thinking about one of these. Needs threads and compensator.
You probably doubled the weight putting that heavy vortex on it. Leupold for back country.. brighter lighter more reliable American made scopes
They’re using that razor hd on all of the rifles in this series. That way all rifles are tested on a level playing field. I put a Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 on my wife’s Kimber and it’s a perfect little setup for her. It outshoots my X-bolt all day.
I concur, Leupold are the best rifle scopes!
Depends on which Vortex scope you use. I have two 84M’s and topped them with Diamondback scopes…they’re lightweight. I like Leupold too but their quality has gone way down in recent years.
Everyone knocks this rifle, I shoot 178gr eldx factory loads in a half inch group at 100yds. No complaints at all. When finding a factory ammo it did like I have issues closing the bolt with Nosler trophy grade loaded with accubonds….. For whatever reason. But I have shot this rifle out to 500yrds with great accuracy from my 308. I believe it weighs 7.25lbs unloaded.
I have a kimber hunter in 308W and no issues with accuracy. With light rifles hold the forend, instead tucking, non firing hand under butt. It's not a heavy benchrest rifle. Same applies to rifles with two pc stocks.
I have 2... An 84m and an 84l. Great value at 750$.
any problems at all?
I’ve bought one and it has the worst groupings I’ve ever shot. I think you get better performance out of a Walmart rifle. I’ve tried absolutely every recommended ammunition for this thing. Nothing makes a difference. So far it’s been a huge waste of money I have like 3" and 4” groupings at 100 yards and that’s with letting the barrel cool down. I’m going to take it to a gunsmith and hopefully that might make a difference but so far this is been a lot of frustration for me and I have buyers remorse.
Excellent review sir, thank you.
Sub MOA with 5 shots is great for a light barrel like that. Unless you've got the carbon wrapped tubes, most, if not all, ultralight rifles will tend to wander substantially on the target. Just hope Kimber hasn't sacrificed to much quality to get to this price point.
David Tennyson I mention that in the video and I’m not concerned at all because I don’t plan on having to take that many shots at an animal. The Kimber is a sweet little rifle. I really enjoyed shooting it and I would purchase this rifle all day long. Thank you for watching and thanks for leaving us a comment! We really appreciate it.
You can stop ANY barrel from "walking" as it heats up. All you have to do is send it off to 300 below to get it cryogenically stress relieved. I was extremely skeptical myself, but after building numerous custom bolt rifles, with extensive testing both before and after, I'm a believer. I cannot testify about the other claims, but have quite a lot of proof personally gathered that the barrels, especially pencil contour barrels will not walk after the process.
@@neilsea5771 interesting idea there…care to comment on average cost for a rifle barrel? Of course their website doesn’t say, says to call for pricing…thanks if you’re willing to share
Nicely done and thorough review.
Excellent review!...Thanks
Excellent review. Thanks
Anyone knows that a larger magazine (5-10 rounds one) could be find for this model? I take this model into count as it has the rare controlled feed action among the affordable bolt action rifles (and available in .308 Winchester too). And maybe a "tactical stock" for it? What can accept bipod?
awesome videos, wish you guys would review the browning x bolt or ab3
things you might be missing out in these reviews are safety, in literal sense.
Most rifles just lock the trigger (howa, vanguard and all rem 700 clones), but this locks the firing pin aswell.
Its a big deal, yes never trust a safety but there is lightyears more safety in a locked firing pin. Thats one of the key differences between the Sauer 100 and 101.
Welcome to 1872 on the 3 possition mauser safety. Too bad people woefully dont understand it. Should be industry standard on all bolt action rifles...
guys love the channel but need your help! I have a brand new Kimber 84M for $640 in my local area. Before I "pull the trigger" I feel like everyone compares this rifle to a Tikka which is around the same price. IN the same breath I have rarely heard from anyone that has shot both. I only have the budget for one and one to buy a one time bolt action and never buy one again. I will be using it for backcountry hunting. Thoughts?! What is your final recommendation!
Tikka wins in out of box accuracy, but the Hunter is lighter. Which is more important to you?
SPot thanks! Well because it was so cheap I figured grab it and try to find out what I want more accuracy or weight then go from there. I handled the tikka and Kimber together and I felt like for the purpose of brush hunting walking all day I wanted to try the Kimber more. If I try to sell it someone will probably say it goes for $800 so I’ll give you $600 for it which to me is worth the $40 difference to experiment.
@@josiahdecosta5621 Have you shot it yet? I'm interested in getting one too, but I hear the light barrel makes it less accurate. My Tikka is easily sub half MOA with 4 round shots.
These rifles are even in the same league…they’re apples and oranges. The Tikka rifles, although nice, are very different. They’re all built around the same long-action receiver, whereas the Kimbers have appropriately sized actions. The Kimber is far lighter and overall a smaller, more nimble rifle. The Tikka is likely more fun to spend a day at the range with, but if you’re a hunter and walk/backpack for game, the Kimber’s weight wins out. The Mauser style controlled round feeding on the Kimber is also vastly different. The safety also locks out the firing pin, not just trigger/bolt. I’m not going to say there is a winner or loser…I say handle both and figure out what you want from your rifle.
Good review man
Take the 9oz of gel out of the stock and grip and replace with expanding foam...then it’s very light!
How do you do that?
Yes how do you do that?
Wow, good to know
@Backfire are you guys going to test the CZ 557?
So which brand ammo did it not take kindly to? And what were the favored rounds?
Did I miss the weight ?
It looks like poor stress relief in the barrel. I had to chase the zero on my Ruger American when it got hot then cool. So long as the consumer knows what they have to put up with as far as zeroing, then they are fine. When you hunt you don't shoot more that 5 shots anyway.
Tim Crane lets sure hope not. If so, I think some more practice would be a good start lol
I'm sorry, you get what you pay for. I held one and wasn't impressed. I agree it's a good looking rifle. But, to be honest I never shot one. So, I can't speak to it's accuracy. Thanks for answering that question. But, let's be real this can't be a quality rifle for the price. However, it is nice that those who can't afford a top of the line backcountry rifle can at least get an affordable rifle to enjoy in the backcountry.
Agreed. For around 800 bucks, this would be a great backcountry rifle. Just don’t shoot more than 4 or 5 shots in a row haha
What rifle would you pick?
Lite is so nice...
Where is the link?
Doesn't such a light weight increase the felt recoil?? 5.5 lbs is very light. A Winchester featherweight is 7lbs and they kick a bit in .270. Kinda negates the light kicking calibre doesn't it ? Or do I just buy a shoulder protector for my little pansy shoulder???
If the stock is shaped right the recoil shouldn't be too bad. I have a 1924 mannlicher-schönauer in 30-06 that weighs 6lb and it's not too bad
If you need 5-6 shots to kill. Unload, and go home.
Kimber will not back their products, I've been through 4yrs. of trying to get my rifle to shoot, Kimber will never help. They want money, yet once it's sold, you're on your own, they simply have no customer service. I called so many times and sent huge numbers of emails, no help whatsoever, although they responded every time with "Never send back firearms, without proper code". I now have a $1200 boat anchor!
Low quality clip damaged the rounds in the mag when fired kimber knows the problem and won’t do anything about it
Jamie Dul is this a problem with all of them or a specific run?
@@johnbaker1289 I know the 280 ai was a problem I tried different bullets, different seating lengths all at kimbers request wasted a ton of money buying different powders and different components, they finally sent me a new mag same issue, I put a stiffer spring in it same issue I got tired of dealing with kimbers bullshit warrenty department and sold the gun
This vs the tikka?
That video is coming soon
I think the tikka would be a great mt rifle. I wonder how bad they kick with 270 wsm or 300 wsm. Havent seen many good vids in those calibers.
Nice rifle just don't count on kimber if ya need service thay are horrid. Kimber has super high skilled CNC people but thay are not gun people. Just sayin.
Agreed. Newer Gun company that lacks old knowledge/experience
The magazine is garbage bullets slide forward when you fire the rifle bending the tips, kimber refused to fix the problem never buy a kimber again
I guess this is the light weight causing problems not the magazine???
Hard pass. For that price there are better choices!
Which ones?
? Still waiting on those better choices
T3x superlite
@@SMFC1025 which is heavier. I have both and yes, the tikka sl is a wonderful gun. The kimber is a good bit lighter 😊
Mine doesn’t feed worth a fk
Lol one shot one kill I mean who just shoots there hunting rifle 1 box of shells will last me 5 years
Duh!