X-Plane 12 | Better than MSFS 2020? Tenerife to Bergen | Insane Realism
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2023
- Bear with me in my first 737 from Tenerife to Bergen.
Addons:
Aircraft:
LevelUp 737 (Free) : forum.thresholdx.net/clubs/pa...
Scenery:
Tenerife South (Free) : forums.x-plane.org/index.php?...
Bergen ($21.59) : store.x-plane.org/Bergen-Airp...
Ortho4xp (Free) : forums.x-plane.org/index.php?...
Visual Mods :
ShadeX ($14.99) : store.x-plane.org/ShadeX_p_13...
Utilities:
X-Camera ($18) : store.x-plane.org/X-Camera_p_...
GHD Handling ($14.95) : store.x-plane.org/Ground-Hand...
World Traffic ($39.95) : store.x-plane.org/World-Traff...
Hardware:
Tobii Eye Tracker 5
RTX 3080Ti
Intel 11th gen i9-11900K
32GB Ram - Наука та технологія
![[MSFS vs XP12] Thoughts after the six flights I did](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Bd5hnl3WBBs/mqdefault.jpg)
![[MSFS vs XP12] Thoughts after the six flights I did](/img/tr.png)
Before you comment something along the lines of “no”, either state your reason or don’t comment it. I just bought a SSD and I will make an MSFS video next weekend.
I love x-plane 12 (with the right mods). I realllly want to love MSFS. There is no mistake msfs graphics are second to none. But at the end of the day , for whatever reason, xp12 gets me way more immersed in the overall flight experience. I don't know how Austin and the team does it but my hats off to them.
Same
i think it's just the way the planes behave in x-plane - it just feels way more realistic- for example the PMDG 737 has a lot of functionality and hats off to them, however the ZIBO which is free has better sounds and functionality .
also the wing physics are terrible in the PMDG
i don't have x-plane , but i have flew the planes on the mobile game. i feel the same. but the x-plane graphics were too shit to buy it for 60 dollars. plus it's about the same thing as x-plane 11. all the mods are the same. and the graphics aren't different apart from the clouds. and the default scenery looks like fsx.
6:33 You crossed the hold bars with traffic on final. They should have sent the landing aircraft around and given you a phone number to call 😁
Haha, thats my bad, its singleplayer so im not on vatsim so thats good.
Both are good, but if we are just going to talk visuals, MSFS2020 doesn't have ANY competition so far.
When there is only fields without houses and you have x plane 12 with autoortho and simheaven it's difficult to distinguish both simulators. Even x plane 12 looks better. And at night x plane it's the best sim ever
I feel x plane is a lot less efficient in terms of storage space. If you want to make it look good you'll need to have atleast 50GB extra while msfs is around 150gb then thats it.@@pilotoexperto
@@pilotoexperto So for x-plane you need an add-on, to make an open field look as good as default MSFS? And what about the rest of the world, where houses and buildings live, like cities?
@@marian8757 you're right but you also need an addon in mfs 2020 to have the same physics as in x plane. There is another huge addon that brings lots of forests, bridgest, houses, churchs, etc. for x plane 12, it's called simheaven. Plus in x plane 12 you have more addon planes and with higher quality and also the 737 and max 8 for completely free
Well... I like to think that MSFS graphics seem... Cartoony-ish it is just my opinion but It only at times ACTUALLY looks like real life. Basically: MSFS looks cartoony but in my opnion I like X-Plane 12's new HDR lightning better than MSFS Graphics. But hey! It's your opnion :)
I love both sims. MSFS for fun and great landscape, X-Plane 12 for lights, atmosphere, flying feelings.
Hey great video, you can tell me how you did to put the effect of speed on your thumbnails ? thank you very much
Wow, this looks good. What kind of graphics card are you using? I can never get my sims to look this good, even after upgrading graphics cards.
when you start the engines make sure to send fuel once the n2 number reaches 20. not directly after starting ignition.
I personally think MSFS is better because the colors aren’t too vibrant, unlike in this video, along with MSFS having more attention to detail on the ground, houses, fields, and citys.
More and more developers are leaving XP 12 every few months. XP 12 is on life support now.
Xplane has some features I wish MSFS would add, but I won't be going back any time soon. In fact I uninstalled XP12. The sheer amount of hard drive space required for it to look anywhere near the level that MSFS does by default is staggering.
And turn your TCAS on! 😁
Nice video! How did you make the levelup 737 work in X-Plane 12 btw?
It works right out the box
@@stellarthings3435 Oh nice. So no bugs or anything? If I remember correctly, they didn't officially provide X-Plane 12 compatibility for the aircraft unlike the Zibo mod.
@@the-aviatorthere is a small fmod issue but works perfectly fine
@@stellarthings3435 thanks for the info!
Nice video 👍
almost kind of a butter landing im bouta sub
i have the 737 but in msfs what a nice plane i see that xplane12 is also so stunning
What audio have you used? Is the default or what?
Default
Your TCAS was off.
I do have to admit that the visuals are great in this game. I wish you could talk with ATC.
BTW, I subscribed to your channel. 😁
Thanks for subscribing! I will turn on the Tcas next time
How did you get the ZIBO 737 to work in Xplane 12?
zibo is already compatible since early access but thats not zibo thats levelup737 mod
So great video one thing I would say are your colors are way too bright try toning them down a bit msfs and xplane12 are both incredible and love using both
Landing was class.
Meh, it was alright, late flare and a bit hard touchdown
Hey, are you using any joystick or yoke?
joystick
If this is xplane 12, when did they fix the anti aliasing (textures)??? Yours looks amazing!
Its a simple fix in settings, search q8pilot shadow fix and you should get a tutorial
starting the b737 like an airbus haha, awesome video. Love XP12, the VRAM performance is second to none
I use both and think both are great 🙂
Msfs would be better if it wasnt for the input lag for me
@@stellarthings3435 Worst simulator, EVER, the scenery, has graphics, that are worst the old FSX, crappy autogen, arcade, like graphics, NOBODY, wants to spend all day, putting in scenery, and loading up, memory, on your computer, MSFS 2020, already, has perfect scenery, by default
@@saminaneen do you have some kind of minnimum comas u use in a setence?
@@thedumbaviator5536 What do YOUR subscribers, watch, on YOUR channel, when YOU have ZERO videos?
@@saminaneen ????
Awesome content please can you do a flight from VABB TO OMDB ?
I will next week
Md11?
@@stellarthings3435 no bro please do it with A320 or B737
@@abrar3921 ok then i will move it after a bit then.
I think it's a matter of taste and what one is looking for in a simulator. I know it is cliché at this point, but if you're looking for superior graphics, MSFS is for you. If you want a fly simulator that's pretty close to real-world flight modeling, then XP12 is for you.
I have criticisms for both and get different things from one that I don't get from the other. For example, I think XP’s airfield lighting, markings, taxiways, and runways are far more superior than that of MSFS. Someone here made a comment about needing add-ons to make XP match MSFS’s default airport’s. This is not quite true, at least in my opinion.
For example, look at MSFS’s default runways, taxiways, lights, and markings; and then look at XP12’s. There's no comparison. Also, with XP, you get a better sense of the width of runways when lined up or coming in for landings. MSFS runways are too narrow, and the lights and markings are trash. I had to buy custom MSFS airports to achieve what I get in XP (runway/taixiway textures, etc). Sure, you want airport buildings and surrounding buildings to be pretty accurate and look nice, but let's face it: if your piloting, you pay more attention to aviation ques than careing about whether or not a Starbucks is missing a mile down the road from the airport.
Now, XP does have graphical problems. I hate the anti-aliasing in XP. It's a huge problem. There's also a lot of shimmering going on in XP that you don't get an MSFS. The clouds in MSFS is far more superior over XP. But I do think MSFS coloring and lighting scheme is quite saturated compared to XP. It's this saturation that gives MSFS that cartoon-like appearance.
So I like and dislike both. This is why I have both sims: to facilitate the things I need from one or the other.
I have both and i have not flown MSFS in the last 6 months Xplane is much easier to setup and make changes and the updates for MSFS takes so long and have this weird bandwidth limit that keeps going back to 5 Mb/s for me even when i set it to unlimited . Xplane 12 is improving monthly and the owners and developers are reachable Microsoft not so much. I have MSFS standard what pisses me off is that if i want to fly the dream liner i have to purchase the higher version of MSFS, i can't buy the airplane .. sucks
I'm not convinced about this 'real-world' flight modeling in x-plane. All too often I see flights with what seems like zero turbulence. You look out the cockpit coming in for a landing, and hardly any movement of the horizon. Yet, you look at actual videos of landings, and there's movement similar to what I've seen in MSFS. Something that noticeable and I'm unconvinced.
I'm sure there are adjustments, but a sim that claims to be as close to real life as x-plane does should be convincing out of the box.
When deciding which game is better, you have to realize that you have to take multiple things into account, such as aircraft selection, graphics, physics, price, airports, weather, etc. I personally like msfs more because it’s good for VFR flight and has one great default aircraft that have great textures. although I’ll be honest, X-plane is probably better than msfs by a small bit, as it has better physics, it’s less demanding, it has better default airports, and is less expensive. But at the end of the day, you personal preference is what decides which you like more, so remember, people are entitled to their own opinions and those opinions must be respected whether you agree with their opinion or not.
I purchased WT3 but every time I attempted to download aircraft it indicated file error....so frustrating!
Hello
Just need to follow the instructions for the setup with wt3. exe
Seems a bit laggy, whats up with that horn on take off? Flaps alert but the flaps were down 🤔
No, in the fms he set flap 5, and during takeoff instead of flaps 5 he set flaps 2.
Idk why the flaps keep changing i have an airbus quadrant
What ShadeX profile are you using?
modified 'nord''
@@stellarthings3435 what settings did you change I am trying to recreate it it looks so good
the rotation was terrible but the landing, yea it was pretty smooth
No way near to MSFS 2020
Endless comparisons between platforms never ends it seems. no fanboy will ever give an honest review or perception
To determine realism is a sim with static screens and chairs is the mind ground of lunacy
Fly what you like and determine quality as you see it
Great video! I use XP11/12 and would never consider transitioning to MSFS....of course I am a mac user too 😊
That’s why you don’t have MSFS, you have a Mac.😂
In my opinion all msfs a/c feel too similar ??
The FSX competitor
xplane-12, better than MSFS2020? In your dreams, maybe...
the only thing that stands out to me about xp12 vs MSFS2020 is that the AI landings/aircraft look so much better in XP. but thats it
i'm surprised the LU worked for you in 12. it's not compatible and once you fly the zibo B738 you'll notice a lot of the issues. I used to fly MSFS and X-Plane, but I've since removed MSFS from my PC entirely. have not regretted it at all. X-Plane 12 offers a more fulfilling experience to me, and with ortho, it looks around 90% as good, with less stutters and lag. plus, good long haul airplanes.
bro tried to t/o with a takeoff warning
wow
I play both Mfs and Xplane 12 .. Xplane 12 look like RFS mobile game.. but im still enjoy it .. Mfs still win , Xplane just their sound more better than mfs ..
how I see it is both are amazing sims I've played multiple hours on fs2020 and x-plane 12 and x-plane 11, both have their ups and downs for example lets just be real here comparing both sims stock side by side Fs2020 takes the win easily with graphics and what it offers at stock level, however if we talk about aircraft models and like addons and modding in general I feel X-plane wins, only for now tho because Microsoft Flight sim 2020 is catching up real fast, Either way I don't pick 1 as I said I played both types of sims and I enjoy both
If msfs fixed these for problems, it would win for me:
- Really bad default aircraft (and most addon aircraft)
- Bad flight model
- Huge input lag
- Wheels sinking into the ground while landing
@@stellarthings3435 True but as I said in my comment both have their flaws atm I'm just using Microsoft Flight sim because it offers such good graphics at what 150gb stock, now depends you can get orbx and all that but I dont got the current space for stuff like ortho that could take up to 2 to 300 hundred gb of space up, Again I like both its just if I had the space for X-plane I would reinstall it with ortho but atm Ill stick to fs 2020 :D Thing what i can't get is why do people argue on sims? like in general like idc what sim you play if you like it and you prefer it over a sim thats cool but then you get people who just hate on others that play other game's, now dont think I'm aiming at you but just other people ya know
@@stellarthings3435 Worst simulator, EVER, the scenery, has graphics, that are worst the old FSX, crappy autogen, arcade, like graphics, NOBODY, wants to spend all day, putting in scenery, and loading up, memory, on your computer, MSFS 2020, already, has perfect scenery, by default
@@saminaneen perfect scenery is a huge overstatement. Msfs’ ortho is loaded automatically, and apart from that, you would have to download all the landmarks from content manager. I would say in X Plane, the autogen is much better ( not trees though I use global forests ) and the default airports are better. I know you would have to download these, but the size of downloading these only matches the default msfs size; simply simheaven and ortho4xp tiles; they will make the default scenery look better than msfs in my opinion. Yeah so scenery is a simple fix, let’s talk about aircraft and physics shall we?
Really nice, looks great.
Thanks a lot ❤
Nice. But your graphic card require Vulcan. Without, it doesn;t work.
It has more realism
let's not fight a d just enjoy these 2 great games. also your pulling up way to early on take off you almost stalled it otherwise very good my man
i will try to improve next time :) it's my first flight on the 737
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graphics = msfs, physics and realism (other than graphics) = x plane
You ain't using auto pilot ?
What? I did
9:03 your plane wasn't setup properly for takeoff
I prefer X-plane 12
Tenerife will have a number for you to call
I didnt actually notice that a321 until the very last moment
Cant speak about fixed wings but after two years of MFS I've uninstalled and I don't miss it. Even releasing native helis the physics still sucks!
Same!
As a real life helicopter mechanic for over 25 years, I would like to know what your basis is for saying that helicopters suck in MSFS. I have flown them since before the native support and while there are some issues, yes, the flight dynamics are up to the respective developers. The HPG fleet of helicopters for example are top of the line, and the Cowansim Bell 206L3 flies like it should having worked on and flown in them many times in my career, so again, I'd like to know what your basing your opinions on. If it is just Xplane vs MSFS bias say so, as I think both are quite close to the real thing however, DCS is still above both in terms of system fidelity and flight dynamics for helicopters, so if you are looking for the true best helicopter simulation, I'd start with the DCS:World Huey and go from there but be preprepared for a steep learning curve.
Ok, here we go...
First of all: I've never got into DCS because sergio from Helisimmer write a review saying that helis didn't even had ETL effect. Perhaps they've changed, but the last info I got was that. @ImpendingJoker
Now lets head to MFS. Have in mind that my analysis isnt based in individual helis, is a combination of all of them.@@ImpendingJoker
1 - MFS native Bell 407 wont overtorque until this day.
2- MFS coulnt create a proper coding to developers to bind a governor key.
3 - Most of MFS helis have static skids, and you wont feel the weight of the aircraft
4 -During speed reduction most of the helis don't fail to settle with power how it should in real life, they recover impossible G Forces.@@ImpendingJoker
dont use the level up 737 its for xplane11
msfs has better visuals but in terms of general flight modeling and the physics of the aircraft x plane is better and more realistic.
msfs Is a video game, xplane is a simulator
That's some really bright colors...
Flight Model better on Xplane , the rest is msfs 2020
No. Graphics are are horrendous on XP even with mods. MSFS has raised everyone's expectations in terms of visuals and accuracy. You know that when you see something on the ground in MSFS, you know that represents something real in the real world. On XP12 you ignore everything because you know it's most likely made up. And that takes you out of that pleasant experience of flight simming.
Xp horrendous graphics? you need new glasses dude. I'm agreed with you that msfs stablished a new standard on top graphics but X-plane looks good to me too..
@@viarnay
he’s right though.
@@Stringbean421 no he is not
@@viarnay
Yes he is.
@@Stringbean421 Join with him and raise a Kickstarter to get new glasses
I swear. some scenes here are very very convincingly real.
Graphics are too bright and colours too vivid. I used XP10 for years but MSFS for me now with a good spec rig and no going back. XP looks too cartoony. It was good in its day. MSFS all the way.
no
No. Next question?
Haha x plane hater
So just because someone doesn't agree with you that makes them a hater? I have Xplane 12, DCS:World, IL-2 Sturmovic Great Battles, and MSFS, and still fly things like Ace Combat, Project Wingman, and HAWX. You're in an echo chamber it seems and lack objectivity. XPlane can not hope to compete with MSFS on any level, and those saying that the flight physics in MSFS are too arcadey most likely have never been behind the controls of a real airplane in their lives. The 737 has so many systems in it in real life to keep it stable, to say that it runs on rail in MSFS and not in XPlane is laughable because that is exactly how it SHOULD fly in real life. It's the same with modern helicopters. Computers do all the flying and the pilots just move the flight controls around, it's even worse when talking about Airbus aircraft.@@stellarthings3435
@@stellarthings3435 not at all. I used X-Plane happily for many years. FS2020 just blows it out of the water.
look like FSX.. when it first launched with no mods..
Obviously XPlane 12 Is better, It’s certifed by the FAA.
The professional version is certified, not the home version that people have.
better than mfs2020 ? nah ... absolutley not
In my opinion yes
hell yeah it is, msfs is plain arcade
I wonder those who keep repeating the arcade propaganda really know what an arcade game was during arcade era...
MSFS is not arcade this is becoming very cliché but the flight model fluidity in XP is the key
@@swiss64heavy41 u legit just wanted to use this word didn't you ?
exactly what alot of people dont know and cant understand is .. the better your pc is .. the better your gaming experience@@kallasnikov
No its not better than mfs 2020
specsavers could be worth a visit
Only thing that Xplane is better then msfs2020 is night lightning and physics! X-plane look terrible at day time and ground look like FSX....
No,nowhere near msfs!
Ur using reshade for xplane12. Doesn’t count. Msfs wins
I did not use reshade.
mfs Is game, xplane is a simulator
looks 10 years out of date
Is better? No😁
xplane looks like fsx... msfs20 is better by far
microsoft flight simulator is better than this bro and you know 😂😂
Your take off was horrible and you didn't engage yaw damper. Me take it your not a real pilot, so still ok job.
Yep I’m not a real life pilot.
@@stellarthings3435 all good. Still great video.
fs2020 it's better