What's The Best Launch Monitor For Swing Speed? SC300, SC200 Plus, Mevo, PRGR, Swing Speed Radar
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What's The Best Launch Monitor? SC300, SC200 Plus, Mevo, PRGR, Swing Speed Radar
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Thanks for your review! I just purchased the PRGR and I can’t wait.......I trust your word because you know your golf and it’s relatively inexpensive to boot. Can’t wait to put it to use!
Great to hear! Feedback is one of the keys to improvement. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Just purchased a PRGR BLACK through your link. Glad you can get a bit of cashflow. Combining your videos (old and new) and videos from SagutoGolf, I’ve been working on fixing my 24-year-old fade/slice into straight/draw since the quarantine started. Been relatively successful, and even now leading me to be motivated to lose weight plus working more on my flexibility. Thought to treat myself with this launch monitor you recommended. Who knows...if I keep progressing, I might look to get a new set of irons plus a new fitting session once the shutdown is over (currently playing a set of custom fitted but 14 years ago Cleveland CG4). Thank you for your work. Thank you for what you are doing for the game of golf. Thank you for embracing technology and better proven teaching methods.
Timothy Chang stay away from Saguto, he has no idea
Nelson James I believe all swings are unique, all physiques are unique, and all teachers are unique. I will do my best to continue to take the best for me from Clay and the best for me from Saguto to create the best unique golf swing that my body and mind are capable of. Most of the time, I believe the more information I obtain, the better. It’s up to me to utilize it or not depending on the testing results. Saguto can’t possibly be all bad, can it?
Hi Timothy, thanks for sharing. It's much appreciated. Glad to here the instruction is helping. It sounds like you're on the right track. Keep up the hard work! 👊
Timothy Chang it’s totally up to you of course; just trying to help. Long story short Clay understands the swing and has the credentials, the other not so much.
@@TopSpeedGolf Received the PRGR today. Can you confirm that I received the right product? Instead of saying PRGR BLACK, the one I received says it is a PRGR RED EYES POCKET Model HS-120A. I did a little research online. Looks like maybe there is a model called PRGR Black which is what you recommended. And then there is another model called PRGR Red Eyes Pocket (which is only going for like $85 on eBay but the one on eBay has a physically red outer shell). I did get one that is black in color but the product says it is a "RED EYES POCKET." I just want to make sure I got what I actually paid for. I paid $195. Thank you.
Thanks! I bought the PRGR from your link on 9/10/20 and got it today 9/14/20
Great company and fantastic customer service. Your review sold me on it.
Great to hear!
Just got my PRGR this week and used it first day. I can't believe how good this little affordable device works. Will deff improve my game.
Great to hear! Thanks for sharing.
Did you receive the black or red version?
@@hankholcomb9265 whats is a diferrent of the color?
Bought the prg black today! With winter months fast approaching, this will me help stay on the game
Hope you like it. Play well!
I do trust your reviews for honesty. The PRGR sounds perfect for me.
Thanks!
After scouring the data I bought the PRGR monitor just before the lockdown. I'd taken a note of my distances at the range (with my new clubs)
I now hit balls into a net a couple of yards away and it pretty much gave me the same distances.
I'm now working on my swing speed & upping my smash factor to get them both consistent.
ps. I'd looked at the mevo, sc200 & sc 300 and also the Ernst Sports ES14 beforehand
For the money the PRGR wins hands down
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Clay. Funny thing is that I just returned my SC300 because the spin rates were way out of line my driver. Had me at 3800rpm and above on most swings. Ordered the PRG black. Your video gives me some confirmation.
Thanks Daryl! Note, the PRGR doesn't give spin rate.
@@TopSpeedGolf Yes. Understand. No spin rates on PRGr. Wouldn't expect it at that price. Seems as though I'll need to go to mevo+ or Skytrak for decent spin numbers. Other than that, PRGR is best bet for just speed numbers and price. Thanks
Great reviews. I'm a PGA professional and work for club manufacturer as a fitter. I have Flightscope Mevo. Other than this device requires a ball I like it most as I can fit with it. The reports and shot detail by club is much better than the Swing Caddie SC300 I tested. The SC300 device was really good but the App reports were limited and usually didn't work. It appeared as if the data collected properly but then looking at the data was when you realized that the device and app were not communicating to each other. I carry the Mevo in my bag and can track data on Shots for example on T- Shots.
I just got one and for the price you can't go wrong, I really only need swing speed and ball speed and love that you don't need a ball to get a reading.
Nice!👍
Thanks man.. your review did it for me.. now it’s a no brainer.. pulling the trigger on a prgr black.. now only if they were in stock at your link
Ok!!!!
Head PRO⛳👌
I've been looking around and doing my homework.
I almost bought that SC300... I really didn't like the size it look a little bulky.. I have enough stuff in my golf bag just trying to break 80.. I like the price for this device the PRG black... thank you for the tips and the great videos I just Made A purchase on your website!!! I also like the simple setup behind the club.. not a lot of guessing where to place the device...
Glad we were able to help. Hope you enjoy your PRGR Black. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Definitely buying the PRGR. Your video has been extremely helpful in solidifying my decision!
Good choice! Let me know how you like it!
I think I'll get one. I watched a few other reviews and alot of teaching pros and testers like the PRGR better then all other products. Thank you.
i enjoy watching your videos you are right all you really need is swing speed an ball speed an smash factor this seems great for hitting in a net at home to kinda flight your clubs
Thanks!
Bought one of these for the. Ask garden practice during lockdown. It seems pretty close and picks up good shots over bad ones and yardage is close. Thanks for the tip 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for sharing
Good video, I’ve had a few of these devices, Ernest sports ES 12, 14 and now have Garmin G80. Biggest issue I’ve seen is having to constantly adjust devices position on grass as you move out of your divots. These are best used with turf mats even though I don’t entirely like hitting off of mats but at least you can set your device down in one spot and don’t have to worry about moving it.
I'm this close to buying the Garmin G80. The priced just drooped by $50. I am intrigued by the games it lets you play. Do you like it?
Glenn Watson I wish I could give you an answer but I’m still waiting on my mat and net to arrive. Apparently those are on serious backorder. I liked the G80 because you don’t have to manually enter what club you’re hitting each time and of course the option to “play” any of the courses on the device. It’ll be the only way I get to play August National lol.
@@legend9018 You might try Walmart for a mat. I got one there last week. Thanks for the info on the G80.
Hi Michael, thanks for sharing. Yeah, all launch monitors (even the $18k ones) work better off of mats. The debris from the divots mess with them. That being said, the PRGR has a pretty big range where you can place it. I beleive it's 3.5 feet to 5.5 feet behind it. So, you have 2 feet of divots you can make before you have to move it. You may never have to move it if you always place your ball at the back of a divot. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Bought the Mevo a while back. Good to hear that you think it's a quality product. I have no way of testing it against top end launch monitors like you do.
My pleasure!
PRGR measures the toe of club. Subtract 7 if you want the “standard” Trackman number club speed. I’ve had the original red eyes PRGR for a while. Well worth the money though.
It read pretty accurately within 1-2 mph compared to GC Quad and FlightScope in our testing. We tested the black version though. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Thank you for posting the reviews of these launch monitors. Just what I was looking for...the pros and cons of the under $500 ones. I just ordered the PRGR. I tried to order it through your link so you would get a few bucks bit it came up "out of stock" :( so I reverted to good old Amazon. Sorry.
No worries at all. Our US distributor is out of stock. We've been told they're coming out a with an upgraded radar and should be available soon. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
Just purchased a PRGR. Great bit of kit. 👍
Enjoy it
Clay, You have really made color from black and white what I have learned from my very knowledgeable local instructor. Thank you. Do you give instruction via email\zoom ect ? I am still casting and hitting the irons
before the ball. In other words I have not mastered the slot..
Hey, thanks for the interest but Clay doesn't offer private lessons. He focuses all his time on making videos and running the business. This allows him to help as many people as possible. Robin, our Director of Instruction, does private lessons in the Orlando, FL area. If interested then follow this link: topspeedgolf.com/in-person-lessons-with-robin-rosado/. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Was there any issues with PRGR with higher lofted clubs? Great review and this video solidifies my decision to get the PRGR. Thanks much!
Nah, you do need to swing a certain speed though. It won't register a little chip shot.
I would love to hear your opinion of the Garmin Approach G80. It is a combination GPS and Launch Monitor.
We have not tried it but it's also at a much higher price point. It's tough to get much more accurate than the PRGR so I can't see it being worth it for more than double the price. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
But there are multiple facets to the g80 do very much different products?
Excellent training videos, thank you. What country is the PRGR Black manufactured from?
Thanks! I'm not 100% sure but I think Japan
Always great contents and videos. Did you test the Garmin g80. If yes, what do you think about it.
Thanks! Have not tested the G80
Clay, can the PRGR Black read if you hit into a net? Or does it need to see 30 -40 lads of ball flight? I would like to get something that I can use in my backyard. Thanks fir any insight!
Hi Chad, yes, you can hit it into the net.
Hi Clay
Great video. I’m not too worry about swing speed. What is a good and economic launch monitor for ball flight, club path for using with a golf net? Thanks.
Unfortunately, there isn't anything economical that's going to give you good club data. The SkyTrak is decent for ball flight but no club data. It's just reading what the ball does. You might be able to get a used FlightScope for cheap. Maybe not right now. I'm guessing there is some price gouging going on. One thing I'd like to mention is that the launch monitors like FlightScope, Trackman and GCQuad are nice to have and great to see exactly what the numbers are but they aren't 100% necessary. If you understand some ball flight laws then you can just look at your ball flight and see where you're striking it on the face and adjust what you're doing as needed. I would recommend checking out Trackman University if you want to learn. It's free! Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Thanks for the frank and honest review. Really appreciative.
Your the best I appreciate your honesty
Thanks for the kind words. Play well!
Great review Clay, it will be a wonderful addition to my back yard "driving range".
Enjoy it
Thanks! Just bought one from your link! Appreciate it!
Awesome, thank you!
Hi Clay
Great video thank you. Does the PRGR read wedge shots ok? I'm most interested in carry distance.
My personal opinion is it does okay with wedge shots. You have the option to choose which wedge you're measuring, but every wedge isn't the same loft, e,g sand wedge could be 54, 55 or 56 degrees. Also, you can manipulate the loft on a wedge pretty easily and this wouldn't translate very well with how this device works. It measures clubhead speed and ball speed very well, but it estimates distance based on the club you selected and the ball and clubhead speed. If you can afford the expense of something like a Mevo+ or Skytrak, these would be better suited to your needs. Clay is reviewing the Mevo+ right now and his initial results have been very good. A review should be coming in the near future. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Nate thanks a mill for your reply. It's very helpful 👍
It would be nice if you compared the swing speed radars to your flightscope to see how accurate they are
there are many videos onkine and mevo is quite inaccurate as most of the cheap flight monitor tools
duh he did that
@@DougKercher he did it for the sc200 in an old video, not the others, and he didn't compare them all together,
Hi, we did that and this is what we found. We didn't include the actual procedure in the video because it's pretty boring. We just wanted to give you the information :-) Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
What loft does the unit use for the club's as the default to calculate distance. can you change the lofts to match the set you may have?
Hi, I'm not sure but I don't believe you can change the lofts. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Would a launch monitor like the PRGR Black with the ball speed and distance feature be a way of choosing the best golf ball for my swing?
No, I'd recommend getting professionally fitted on a more in depth launch monitor.
Great! Is the PRGR HS-120A Launch Monitor the same as the PRGR? Do you still recommend it or you have something else? Thanks!
Hi Omar, we have been told that the red one is intended for the Japanese market and has an inferior radar to the PRGR Black. We have not tested the red version so we can't attest to it's accuracy. Play well!
Have you tried the Garmin G80 for accurate yardages? Thanks
Hi, we have not. I do see that it's at a much higher price point than the PRGR. It's tough to beat for that price and it can't really get much more accurate. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
hey Clay thanks for the info, which is best for Net work only? still isolated here for another 2 months
They can all be used with a net. The Mevo requires a little more space between the ball and the net but all the other just need about 7 feet. The PRGR is my top pick. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I am glad that you are recommending what you believe in and is good for especially the average golfer or senior golfer even. I have the sc200 and tested their new versions before switching to the mevo myself. At some point I might check out and test the mevo plus but much larger price point. One advantage is angle of attack. Did not know about prgr though had their clubs in the past as spent many years in japan (alongside other Japanese brands). The mevo advantages over the sc’s include the app and video capabilities so no comparison re value for money.
Hi, thanks for the comment. Yeah, PRGR is a part of the Yokohama company so they are like the Japan version of Bridgestone. There are advantages and disadvantages to all of these and you just have to find what fits your needs. The app is cool but I actually prefer something simpler that I can just turn on and start swinging. I don't have to get my phone out every time to see that data. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
What is your opinion of the Rapsodo MLM?
Thanks for the vid. Your swing release video really helped me get some more yards on my driver.
Hi James, we haven't had the opportunity to test it. It does look pretty cool. My concerns are that it will really take the battery down on your phone. Also, we live in FL so I wouldn't want to have that sun beating down on my phone like that. The price point is also much higher than the PRGR Black. I have a hard time thinking that the Rapsodo will be out the PRGR weighing all that. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@@TopSpeedGolf I've used one and it was pretty neat.
Ball speed, Club Speed, Smash Factor, Direction, Shot tracer, Games (long drive, closest to the pin), Carry and Run (of course).
I get what you are saying about Florida's heat. I lived there for about 8 years. I used the MLM at the range and, since it was covered, it wasn't bad.
Battery, not sure. I got to play with it for about two hours and my phone was okay, but it certainly is going to use your battery more than normal.
If you get a chance to test one, I would really like to see a professional's opinion. :)
All the best and thanks for the excellent content you provide.
Clay seems like a good guy, and from what I can tell he's absolutely correct. The PRGR is the way to go.
Thanks!
The Mevo's outdoor option is legit. The indoor setting is finicky, I was getting bad data since I had metal near it, took it outside (indoor setting) and the power lines next to my house was throwing it off. Summary: If you want for outdoors it's a go! If you need for indoors make sure you look at all the requirements so it will give you the results that you can believe in.
Thanks for sharing!
So Clay, exactly how much is that $18,000 FlightScope? I’m not sure you told us 😂. As always great review. Not only that, I’m going for it with the PRGR on your recommendation. You’ve gained a lot of trust from me with your well placed advice in your instructional videos. Great job.
Thanks Roland! Trust me, I know exactly how much it is 😂
Nice review Clay...what do you think about the new Earnest Sports Bi model they are out with...Much like the ES 14 but sits behind the ball...Thanks...Ali
Thanks! Not sure, I haven't tried it.
I ordered a PRGR Black and got a PRGR Red. What is the difference?
Hi Hank, I'm not sure. I think the red just has the addition of the calorie counting. It was intended for Japan release. I would contact the manufacturer to get a black one if you want. If you ordered from the link in the video then here is who you contact: info@amhsports.com.
@Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard Unfortunately, just cancelled my PRGR order. Per their manual, they only accurately measure BALL speeds up to 80 m/s (178.9 mph). While that's plenty of speed any recreational player needs (probably all a pro needs as well), I've been working to get back into those speeds above their stated tolerances (various under/over speed training). Wonder if Garmin G80 has similar limitations. Thoughts? I would imagine that you will run into their upper limit measurements as well. Thanks.
Hi Daryl, thanks for sharing. Clay often get's into the 180 mph ball speed and the seemed to hold up. I'm double checking with him on that. We have not tested the Garmin G80. I tried to take a quick look at their specs and couldn't find anything other than the tolerances. You'll need to contact them to get that info. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@@TopSpeedGolf Yes. I didn't see tolerances in G80 manual either. Good to know that the 180+ speeds hold up on PRGR. Thanks for the reply.
Thank you Coach we really love your helpful thoughts. Is there a device that will help Measure the backspin of the golf ball. As well with everything else Carrie and distance
Hi John, the Mevo measures spin but you have to use a metallic dot sticker on the ball. The SC300 measures spin but I didn't find it to be very accurate. Another device that measures spin that was not mentioned in the video is the SkyTrak. It does a pretty good job if you have good lighting. It's a little more on the pricey side ($2k) though compared to these other devices. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard THANK YOU!!!! 👍👍
Just curious how the readings would shake out using a golf net? Will it still calculate the distance ok ? Or does it need to be used on a range?
Hi Mike, yes, most of these devices just need about 7-10 feet of flight to read it. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
What’s the best device that can display ball flight? and possibly club path
FlightScope, TrackMan, GCQuad. If you want the best and accurate club data then you'll have to pay a lot. None of the other devices are going to give you club data tother than Zepp and Blast and those are not accurate. Honestly, something to read your swing speed and ball speed is all you need. You can see your ball flight. If you hit a slice then you know you need to change your face and path most likely. You don't need a $18k machine to tell you that :-). You can't really tell what your speed is though. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hey Clay, I really enjoy all of your content. Thanks for making golf more fun and accessible. I'm considering the PRGR Black. I'm mostly concerned with understanding my personal carry distance for each club, however, Kenny Kat Golf shared some strong opinions on the PRGR Black not being able to pick up accurate data inside of 130 yards. Have you noticed that at all? And would you recommend using the PRGR Black inside a garage with a net and if so what should I be mindful of i.e. minimum distance from ball to net. Thanks for your content!
Apparently the the latest PRGR (HS-130A) has improved that issue.
I have the newest PRGR and it picks up my wedge shots just fine.
Honestly man I just bought new wedges and the absolute WORST thing is not knowing my exact distances...ive been hitting the rsnge like crazy and using a rangefinder to get my distance, but man that only goes so far...luckily my club doesn't use rante balls, they're titleist nxt, so its fairly accurate, but dude it would be so much easier to just hit for a day or two and write the distances down
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Mr. Ballard, I just bought one though the link. I love watching your content!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Curious, which one did you go with?
@@Mscott1529 had the prgr for awhile, works great for the price, I might try the swing caddie next tho
@@justinsmith9710 thanks for responding brother! I am going with the Rapsodo MLM. It was between that and the Mevo, and they are neck and neck, Rapsodo just has shot tracing. So I went with that. lol
Is the new SC200 Plus really that bad? I was looking at those because I wanted to get one for my young son. I like the fact that it has adjustable loft angles as junior clubs are way different from adult standard lofts.
Hi, no, it's fine. It's just not as good and more expensive compared to the PRGR Black. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I hope you can test the new Mevo + soon. Really interested in that device. And hopefully much more accurate at that pricepoint.
Yeah, I don't know if they'll send us one. I would like to see how it is too. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I have a Mevo+ and I compared it with a Trackman and the numbers of the Mevo+ were spot on.
Hi, thanks for the comparison. Does the PRGR give distances in metric also?
Hi, I believe it is imperial only. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
So what did you check the top of the line monitors against? Nothing?
Curious, have you tried an ES12 for ball speed? Was thinking that might work well in a space limited indoor setup...
I have not
Thanks for the review. I am interested in your opinion on how important would knowing launch angle while trying to dial in your swing is. I have so many reviews and unless you spend over $10k the launch and some of the other advanced options are not that accurate. So if there are not that accurate does it definite you to see those numbers? Looking to make a purchase asap!
My pleasure! It's nice to have the numbers but you're not going to get anything accurate without paying a lot for it. I recommend just using your eyes. You can see if you're launching it too high. If you need to get it lower then I would do video work and work on getting more forward shaft lean because that accounts for about 80% of your launch angle. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard thanks. The only club I am trying to get the launch up is the driver and I really think it’s do to over swinging. I’ll be grabbing this soon!
What do you think about the rapsodo launch monitor?
For lower tier products, there is nothing better than the PRGR. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
Does the unit need to be behind the ball when you are swinging? Could the unit be on the other side of the ball instead?
Hi Ken, it needs to be about a driver club length behind the ball.
Great info, I am going to try the PRGR, I have a swing speed radar which is absolutely useless!
Sounds good Donnie! We found the Swing Speed Radar to be accurate when set up correctly which can be tough to set it up perfectly every time. Setting it up an inch different can yield a different result. That's a big part why we like the PRGR. Just place it a club length behind the ball and you're good to go. If it's an inch or two in either direction then it's still good. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hey Clay, thanks for the video. I’ve been thinking about purchasing your system but was wondering if it matters what level of golf I am or my handicap?
Hey Eric, thanks for the question. So, our system is not for total beginners. A total beginner needs to focus on grip, setup and just hitting the ball in general. If you're not in that category then I would say it would be a great fit for you. If you're ready to purchase the membership, just use the quick link below because you can sign up in about 1 minute: topspeedgolf.com/pick-all-access-plan/ . Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard thank you!
What do you think about The Rapsodo MLM be the Mevo?
I haven't tested Rapsodo. The Mevo is good but it's no more accurate than the PRGR and is more expensive. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Thanks Clay! Just bought a prgr black!
Nice!
RO’s World Please let me know if you received the Black or older Red Eye version like I did.
Have you tried the garmin launch monitor? Nice review
Unfortunately not
So which ones can be used just to measure clubspeed without hitting a ball?
Thanks Clay. Just ordered my PRGR today.
My pleasure! Enjoy!
I have the sky trak in my garage, I like the unit I do believe it over does the side spin a bit. but it works great for indoors hitting off a mat into a net. keep up the great work I really enjoy your video's . I will say the only way I can get to 100 MPH driver speed is swinging while the cart is still running. Be safe
Thanks for sharing. My experience with the SkyTrak is that it doesn't do well with club head speed because it only reads what the ball does. Having something to supplement the SkyTrak like a PRGR can give you an accurate club head speed too.
Is the red model the same or is the black one better ?
The red one is intended for the Japanese market I believe and we are told that it has an inferior radar in it.
Hey Clay, just ordered the unit. Any idea of how long shipping takes?
Hi, I'm hearing people are getting them in 5-7 business days. We don't actually ship the product. We just provide the link of the website where you can purchase it. You'll want to contact the seller for more information: info@amhsports.com. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hi, great review, thanks. Question, SC300 read swing speed without hit the ball? Like prgr?
No, I don't believe that it will. The SC200 Plus does but not accurately. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
@@TopSpeedGolf There are a bunch of videos comparing SC200 Plus vs Trackman showing the accuracy of the device. Any personal issue? ua-cam.com/video/tFhHkM0VwcU/v-deo.html
How do any of these devices account for variable lofts in different clubs eg super improvement clubs etc. does the distance algorithm “assume” some industry standard? How about the 18k monitors-same question. Thanks
The more expensive devices like FlightScope are reading the club data and ball data so no need to know what club is. It will have enough data to know the distance from that. If it knows the launch angle like Meco then it can get a good idea without needing to know what club you're hitting. The SC200 gives you to the option to adjust the lofts. Others like the PRGR don't but still is pretty accurate. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I don’t see an affiliate link for the Mevo which I’d like to purchase.
We don't have an affiliate link for the Mevo. We just have it for the PRGR. Here you go: topspeedgolf.com/prgr-2/
THE PRGR Black LAUNCH MONITOR - can it be used as a coarse gps too?
No
Can you compare the Garmin G80 - it seems it beats all of the them - i would love your opinion on it
We have not tried it but it's also at a much higher price point. It's tough to get much more accurate than the PRGR so I can't see it being worth it for more than double the price. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
The Garmin G80 is also a top of the line GPS unit too, so it that respect, its well worth it depending on what you want
Hi Clay, You say best bang for your buck and in replies that the Garmin G80 is more expensive so you don’t see the point of reviewing it. But it has GPS, warm up, games and you can play courses around the world which would be a big deal with everyone hitting at home at the moment. I’m a big fan of your training videos and you’ve improved my game and I thank you for that, but I think for best for your buck, you need to consider all the things the Garmin can do. We’re you sponsored in any way for the first device because it seemed more like an advertisement......
@@TopSpeedGolf i think it could be a cool video to put the PRGR and the G80 against your flightscope to see who as the best launch monitor between the 2 small device - because if the G80 is more accurate the couple hundreds more would be well worth considering the GPS and Games features that help you to practice even more effectively.
@@anthphoto Do you have the G80?
What do you think of rapsodo launch monitor?
We have not tested it but I have heard good things. If it was just as accurate as top dollar machines like FlightScope then I'd still go with the PRGR because it's very accurate and at a much lower price point. I also believe that the Rapsodo requires you to use your phone which I'm not a big fan of myself. I'd rather just have the ease of setting the device down and using it. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
What about the esb1? Vs those other smaller ones
Sorry, haven't tested that one
Hi Clay, just a simple question what is the différence(the average) in yards for the carry distance between the prgr and the flightscope ? (and also the smash factor)
Is it more realystic than the swing caddy sc200 (for bith the carry distance and the smash factor) ?
Regards.
Hi Vincent, the PRGR was within 5 yards on well struck shots compared to the FlightScope. I'm not sure what the average was. If you didn't hit it will then it was off because it doesn't know if you hit a snap hook or slice. The ball speed was dead on almost every time and the club head speed was on average 1.5% which is the best of any device we have tested. Keep in mind that using range balls will make your ball speed numbers and smash factor go down.
PRGR black doesn't measure dry swings (no ball) for me. How do you get it to work? (It works exceptionally well with real balls at the range.) But with dry swings, it measures much lower. Any suggestions?
Try moving it a little closer. I wouldn't expect the speed to be the same. Some peple swing faster and some slower without a ball. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hey clay, I’ve heard you can edit your loft angles on the swing caddy, would that make it more accurate for distance and launch angle?
I currently have a rapsodo mlm but I’m looking for something to hit indoor, which shows me a tracer without breaking the bank. If you have any suggestions I’ll buy from your link. Thank you sir!
Hey coach what about the loft on your irons or you don’t need to input the loft is it still accurate for a PW to four iron???
Hey John, I don't believe the PRGR has the ability to adjust lofts on your clubs. The SC200 has this feature but they don't make it anymore. It's still pretty accurate on well struck shots.
@@TopSpeedGolf Last question so regardless of the setting club Selection PRGR in your own opinion it is pretty accurate?? I really love your lessons and your opinion thank you very much
Shame the PRGR is yards only as we are metric in Oz but will still get one after this sales pitch haha
If you're using it for speed training, then as long as speed swing increases, then all is well. Sorry it won't do meters or kph for you. It's still a great piece of equipment for the cost, though. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Clay, how do you compare the PRGR with the ES12?
Hi Mark, I haven't compared them but I looked into the ES12 and it doesn't measure club head speed. It just measures ball speed and estimates distance from that.
Man did you just save me some $$$$. Thnx
Any time!
Is the PRGR Black as good as the Red??.
most of the amazon reviews say the PRGR is not very accurate. Was about to purchase based on this video until I saw the reviews consistently said the device wasn't accurate.
Hi Clay - do you know if the prgr can messure In meters; In DK we dont play in yards 😀
Supposedly it can but I haven't been able to get mine to switch from yards to meters with their directions. I would recommend going with something else if you really need meters. The Swing Speed Radar easily changes to km/hour. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
I am going to try the PRGR. Be sure you're going to get my feedback! ☺️
Hope you like it!
Hi Clay, as mentioned above, I bought the PRGR recently and tested it through three practice sessions in my backyard using a pitching wedge, a 7-iron and 4-Hybrid but could not get any accuracy regarding distance. The device gives distances wrong by at least 40 yards about! 35 to over 70 yards to be closer to reality in comparison to my usual distances at the range. For example, 95 yards with the 7 while I carry the ball more or less 150 yds usually. How come? Even worse with the hybrid, the PRGR LM records 110 yards when I carry the ball 70 yards farther on the range. A bit disappointing.
Hi Clay is it $195 or $229? When I signed up it states $229?
I have a sc300 coming tomorrow...
Thanks for sharing!
What about the new Garmin Launch Monitor?
Crushing the driver, no problem 💣👏🏻👍🏼
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Do hey have any plans to add launch angle?
Hi Brian, I'm not an expert on how these are made but I don't think that adding launch angle is a software thing otherwise it would be very easy to do. I think it's about the hardware so you wouldn't be able to just add it to the device. That being said, having the launch angle info is nice but it isn't necessary. You can see if you're hitting it lower or higher. What you really need is something to measure your swing speed because you can't tell what that always is. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Hey coach does it have the loft you pick for your sandwiches like you’re 56 loft and a 60 loft for that device
Hi John, you can't adjust your lofts but you do choose the club you're using to get the estimated distance. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Top Speed Golf - Clay Ballard OK thank you understood that’s awesome
Would you still recommend the PRGR black indoors?
Yes
@@TopSpeedGolf Thanks Clay. I tried to order it using your link but the PRGR site is out until the end of May and I need something to help me pass time hitting balls in my garage so I ordered it from SuperSpeed golf. I tried.
I need a device where I can hit into a net and see my ball shape. What device is best for accuracy?
You'll need a FlightScope, GCQuad, or Trackman for that. You may be able to find something used for around $12k but it will be tough to find. I think a lot of people invested in this stuff when that pandemic hit and courses closed. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Skytrak is good aswell as Mevo +
Love your work, Clay.
How does the PRGR do with range balls?
What would you recommend for use on a regular driving range?
Hi, it does great. You just have to keep in mind that you'll likely get lower ball speed and smash factor numbers especially if they are limited flight range balls. The max I can get at our range here is about 1.45 smash factor (1.5 is the max). Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor
Is this just an advert for the prgr?
No, but I believe it's the best value by a long shot. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
I want to know my swing speed without ball. How do I position the launch monitor for accurate reading ?
Behind where the ball would be about a club length.
Good video. Bummer, they are out of stock... :-( PRGR Black....restock please :-)
Thanks! Yeah, I think stuff like this is high demand right now. Play well! Quentin | TSG Instructor