MAX KELLERMAN: WHO'S "GREATER" PACQUIAO OR MAYWEATHER? TALKS GOLOVKIN VS CANELO; CRAWFORD & SPENCE
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Agree mr kellerman, im facinated a fly weight champion who dominated the welterweight division. It is a privilege to see an era of manny Pacquiao
Manuel pacauiao did not dominate any era, was KTFO in the Philppiness 3 times. Then he moved up in weight and got whupped by past prime Erik Morales, then he got whupped by granpa Marquez, then by old Floyd. PAC went to fight Floyd in a courthouse because he did not want to do blood test.Max works for HBO which Floyd abandoned years ago and is hating.
@@jomana4517 *whooped
Agree to battosai
After pacquiao we will never see anyone like him in the world of boxing
Hopefully his son matches his record should the boy pursue boxing and he will be the next super excitement in boxing after his father
@@jomana4517 Another person who doesn't know enough about boxing. lol
@@jomana4517 you only see his fall and not how he fly. toxic people is always like this
By FAR the best analyst in the sport. This man knows his boxing.
+Scorpie Scorpie Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
+Scorpie Scorpie most people don't know shit about boxing.
Hero Yui Yep
Your Crazy he thinks he is boxing! He's a nut job!
Lmao, this guy has never boxed a day in his life, Paulie malignaggi Is the best commentator in boxing
pacquaio is by far better than Floyd N1 p4p MP
Flomos you are right, Pacquiao have KO losses and your girl Floyd is UNDEFEATED. Pacquiao is an OFFENSIVE fighter while Floyd is a DEFENSIVE boxer. What do you expect? Can you hit FLoyd or KO Floyd when he is running so FAST like a Ferrari?! Floyd can even OUTRUN Usain Bolt in a marathon match!!! When Floyd fought Pacquiao it wasnt a boxing match it was a marathon contest!!! Hugging and running is called boxing?! Really?!
"What do you expect" lol.The same guy he received the k.o from mayweather schooled. He didn't run he stayed in the pocket for most of the fight and schooled him. Problem is you don't want to just respect greatness. Both pacman and mayweather are hof fighters, mayweather is just the better overall boxer. If you weren't being a hater you'd realize that.
Lets keep it simple, both these guys have ped/drug rumors so lets not even go there.Also no proof of him having refs paid off so again why go there.intelligent people will agree the stats are with mayweather and the eye test is with floyd. If you tell me manny is more exciting i will agree. If you tell me manny hits harder i will agree. If you tell me manny is more of a fan friendly fighter because of his style i will agree, but never can someone say he is the better boxer. They have fought many of the same guys and almost all of them say floyd. The biggest rival to manny in his career was marquez (legendary boxer)and all he ever does is praise mayweather and say he is better.*****
Because mayweather is a chicken running deffensive figther of all time
mlking213 better boxer yes. He has no heart though
Casual
Max has a great boxing mind. One of the best boxing analyst if not the best. But Max stating that Manny is over Floyd & Roberto Duran is over Sugar Ray Leonard as the greatest is a controversial belief, but yet he gives a good argument for his stand.
Max Kellerman is the Best. Great video...
i love how max always acts like someones swinging on him when a question comes...woa hold up! come again?
Pacquiao got Knocked out by a Flyweight I just don't believe Floyd would of got knocked out by a Flyweight in 97, when he was a "natural" 130 pounder superfeather weight champion..
Floyd was NEVER a Flyweight, nor would he ever make that weight. Pack couldn't even make 106. You people are so brain washed and just can't comprehend what's being said. Smfh
they were the same weight. If you say length is an excuse then ali's reach was unfair the whole time.
Wake up Max
Yeah Max knows his stuff, plus he tells it how it is, straight up
skip to 8:50 if u were here becuz of the title
YEAH EVEN ROGER MAYWEATHER SAID THAT BOXERS FROM THE 80'S ARE WAY BETTER, HE EVEN SAID THAT FLOYD WOULD HAVE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS VS CHAVEZ SR. THE POINT IS IN MY OWN OPINION FLOYD IS THE BEST OF THE ERA ON PAPER BUT HE WOULD ALWAYS BE REMEMBER AS THE BOXER WHO NEVER FOUGHT OTHER BOXERS AT THEIR PRIME.
He fought them when they could made him the most money ... Fuck prime , it's about the money .
we all know that is about the money now, and that's why we get crappy fights and the most boring fight ever like floyd vs manny
Well prolly you should've tuned in when TBE was in his prime not when he was old and washed up ,,,, perhaps you guys could've asked Manny to take the teSt instead of the Floyd is scared narrative
Max's argument is so good the reporters can only respectfully disagree
"reporter" as in, froid fanboy youtubers. these aren't really actual writers and commentators in the boxing media industry.
12:38 Interviewer: "I'm gonna humbly disrespect- disagree with you"
LOL! The slip of the tongue, you just know the interviewer heavily biased and is only based on emotions and got offended by facts.
Kellerman breaks it down brilliantly!
max well said thats just plain truth. real strong arguments right there
+Lion Heart lmao. the interviewers are scared to ask hard follow-ups and this guy thinks max's argument is strong as a result
lmfao
+BigDigga0 you don't have an argument and neither do the flomos on the vid
Kellerman made a good point. Pacquiao is greater than Floyd because of not just all the lineal title he accomplished at the lighter division, but being a naturally smaller guy and still very competitive against a naturally the longer reach guy, and Pacquiao was the defensive aggressor which is way harder to do than a running away slick boxer type. Yeah Pacquiao is way better than Floyd in the ATG list.
Pacuqiao fought better quality opponents than Floyd.
Pacquiao won more impressive with same opponents they fought.
Pacquiao fought P4P fighters every year for the past fifteen years up to his last fight, Pacquiao fought the second best fighter in Bradley at welterweight division only next to Pacquiao, which made him the lineal Champ in welterweight on his last fight.
Floyd fought another cherry pick in Berto on his last fight. That is how wide the gap they are in the ATG list. And zero lost does not go far in the ATG, it's the quality of the opponents they fought in their entire career.
Yes, Pacquiao lost to Marquez by knock out, that does not mean Marquez is on the ATG. It's their resume and their accomplishments in their entire career.
Floyd fighting Berto alone puts a ding in his resume. So who fought the better opponents P4P fighters every year.
Floyd is like Canelo now, cherry picking Cotto, then now Khan. Both are big names but not on the P4P in that division.
+Andres Kiani Pacquiao was already better than Floyd whether that fight even happen or not. What Pacquiao did in boxing is unheard of and no one else can mimic what he has done. Floyd is just another Rocky Marciano
+Edgerich yeah i agree , floyds is just another rocky marciano a great boxer with a paper career
Floyd is what I call a smart illusionist. I say illusionist is because he seemed like he fought all of them, but the question is when did he fought them?
I don't give credit to Pacquiao when he made De la hoya quit on his stool when the betting odds was against Pacquiao the underdog. I didn't count Mosley win by Pacquiao because of the timing of that fight, we all know why.
There are more instances like I don't give credit to Pacquiao koed David diaz championship fight at lightweight. Pacquiao had beaten Margarito, a very live and dangerous fighter, still on his prime at middleweight, but I didn't give him credit for that. Pacquiao fought Cotto at his prime who had just beaten Clottey weighing at 146 pounds on fight night. I didn't give Pacquiao credit fighting Cotto even though he was the underdog on that fight because he fought Cotto at a catchweight of 145 pounds, one pound lighter than Cotto's last fight.
So just to be fair I don't give Floyd credit on most of the big names he fought, because of the same reasons I use for Pacquiao.
So who did may weather fought? NONE, he never fought prime p4p fighters at their best weight. He ducks and cherries, so let me explain why I say cherry. When Floyd fought Zab Juda, Zuda was not the best in that division at that time, it was Cotto. When Floyd fought Cotto in that division, it was not Cotto who was the best, it was GGG.
Kinda like Canelo now who was fighting for the middleweight, but fights catchweight against bums that was already over the hill and he is fighting Khan soon, when Kahn isn't the best for that division. In fact Khan had never tested in that division.
That is how true boxing will judge the ATG/ TBE the quality of opponents and not an illusion. Floyd in my opinion cherry picks his opponents when its ripe for the picking, which I don't give credit at all. I didn't even mention Floyd never fight outside vegas where he has all the advantages. ATG's fought all over the world bruh where they have to KO dudes or get rob.
You just cannot be an ATG if you never took risks.
+mark anciano " Mayweather said. "I beat Diego (Corrales) when he was at the top. I beat Arturo Gatti when he was at the top. When I fought Oscar De La Hoya, we both was in our thirties. When I fought Shane Mosley, we both was in our thirties, and I beat Shane Mosley when he was coming off his biggest victory. When they said (Juan Manuel) Marquez was washed up, after me, Marquez went and beat Pacquiao."
It's not his fault that his opponents challenges did live up to the expectations haters like you. He was just that Great.
Like it or not. Mayweather is an All Time Great……..get over it.
Max can really talk off the cuff. Great video with solid points.
Oh look, another black guy hating a white guy. Stop with the racism bro.
bună seara
+krag3r Yeah Max is dope, so entertaining.
Lol...i bet if they fought at the 130lb pacman would destroy floyd..but alot of people don't understand that about boxing...every pound makes a difference and if your talking about mayweather who eat sleeps and shit at the 150-155lb vs pacman who sits at the 130-140lbs...he has to come up another 7-12lbs much harder to do than go down 3 lbs... this fight against mayweather was setup to make pacman take all the disadvantages. kellerman does make sense and the problem with debates is that there are always biased fans who swear by their fighter no matter if he was out boxed or not. I personally love Marvelous Marvin, Tyson and now pacman. These guys always brought the fight and had the biggest heart: and a true champ fights anytime and anywhere, not when it benefits them only.
The interviewers disagree, but they didn't state why. They didn't state why because they know they'd lose to Max in an argument.
+Brian Cheng it's more like they want to interview max again
+BigDigga0 No. they are not that smart.
+Brian Cheng Just like talking to a flomo. Totally
WZ912 elle is no fool.......i'm sure he got strict protocols
+Martin S I'm not Filipino and I don't have any relationships with Filipino people. That's a bit ignorant of you to judge my position on a subject matter based on my last name.
Pacman is the One and Only Boxer in History of Boxing to have 8 Division Tittles.
quickzilver333 how many catch weights lol
That 154 title he won should have an asterisk beside it since it was a fight at 150
I always thought 6 years ago pacqiaou would have beaten mayweather at lightweight.
average Joel it doesnt matter his opponent accepted to fight him. They their ass whoop and now you cry because the little Asian man beats the record of any boxer in Division Tittles....hehehehe!
Benjamin Franklin
Lol! This happen when all the haters were saying he is too small and too weak to fight such fighters. Then they got their asses whoop...lol!
Pacman never fought at his normal weight for a long long time and he dominated.
Manny can't even make 105 pounds he was fighting at 100 pounds because of poverty he was trained to fight without his weight
Lets take a closer look at Floyds biggest wins.
Genaro Hernandez- OLD
Castillo 1- Robbed Castillo
Corley- Nearly lost all of his fights
Gatti- Washed up/Ring wear
De La Hoya- Passed prime
Marquez- Smaller man and Floyd came in heavy
Mosley-OLD
Ortiz- Controversial Ending
Cotto- Passed his prime
Guerrero- Who? lol
Canelo- Cherry picked a kid
Maidana 1- Too close a fight for an "all time great" to have against a slow, plodding 1 dimensional brawler
Pacquiao- Waited for, what? 7 years before he fought him?
Berto- um yeah
Lets be honest here. Dont be a fanboy. Just look at the facts. Thats floyd the business man right there. Hard at work.
His best wins to me were the Judah, Hatton and Corrales wins. Those stand out to me when I think of Floyd. Everything else is just a bunch of big names on his resume that he fought at the "perfect" times for him to look good. Nothing more.
BE HONEST!
Wow lol
And dont forget in the Ortiz fight that one of the reasons he chose victor was that he knew victor had a "weak-heart" so he he knew if he kept the pressure on victor that he would`ve folded!!
I agree with you...pacqiauo is the best pound for pound ever, he fight whoever recommends to him by his promoter, and His the Most honest boxer ever...nothing compared hia being a gwntlemen in the history of Boxing...the Most humble and simple ever....
floyd wins to.hatton is not even best
coz all advantages in this fight is for floyd
hatton is naturally and undefeated at 140lbs.
but he moves to 147lbs floyd natural weight to fight floyd
unlike wen pacquiao foght hatton
they fight at 140lbs hattons natural weight
but pacman ko him in round 2
that is credible to be called pacmans best fight
for all advantages is to hatton
but he was defeated by k0
now u know...???
@@ravenored3754 did you know pac has 7 losses...Shut the fuck up you dumb fuck. I like Pac...but he's not even top 20. Do your research ...FOH
I love watching Max schooling this fanboys lol He knows too much about boxing, and he is always keeping it real.
Everybody nows Mayweather is the best ever. He never lost ever. He knocked everybody in his way no mercy.
@@tigerstripe3820 Yeah right. Including the cheap shot vs Victor Ortiz. Lol
He really spoke that truth but of course it'll be hard for people to digest
+Lion Heart lol you mad too
+Lion Heart you all good bruss
i love it when max asks questions to the cameramen, and they give the most casual answers hahaha
lmfaoo
exactly.. they just say. I disagree.. I respectfully disagree, then they stopped after that lol.
12:38 Interviewer: "I'm gonna humbly disrespect- disagree with you"
LOL! The slip of the tongue, you just know the interviewer is heavily biased and is only based on emotions and got offended by facts.
Max spoke the truth!!
+Million Dollars another ignorant fanboy
Pacman is the king of catch weight fights
He's small what did you expect
@@rustedniddleslinger9475 then don’t fight at that weight class
@@oozy814 then don't accept the fight if you cant lose a few pounds. Are you a fighter? If not stfu.
I don't understand , Floyd loss that fight from Pacquiao why people keep saying that Floyd won that fight I mean some stupid people
+Cali Prynce Pacquiao beat that clown
+Cali Prynce I don't even care about how much money he has. I am playa with what i have. Your answer is delusional, fanboy lol
and you think you know boxing?shame on you!!!
Jack Alexander x7 49-0
Cali Prynce strikes
127-69 for Pacquiao. Mayweather won 3 rounds and one round was a draw every other one was a win for Pac
the reporter who ask the question is probably from fighthype lol. Max is already taking him to school and still indenial imo pacquiao is not only the greater p4p fighter but also the greatest fighter of these era handsdown.we have lot of undefeated fighters today but what the midget Filipino has done is very hard to repeat.
Pacquiao has more HOF fights under his belt than Floyd. Actually Pacquiao fought all of Floyd's HOF opponents more dominantly.
Another point, Pacman come from the gutter with no proper directions in boxing until later on in his career who won belt in 8 divisions. Mayweather was grown to be great who has people to protect him and push him in the right direction in boxing like his father and uncle. That is why he still have that 0. Mayweather always call not all but most of the shots when it comes to who he fight, when he fight, where he fight and sometimes how he fight because it's the name of the game in boxing and he is the best at the game side of the sport. It will be a very long time before anyone break Pacman record of 8 division, but I pretty sure the 0 of Mayweather will be beaten soon even if he got 50-0.
Pacquiao>Mayweather
plain and simple.
It's amazing to think there is a question here. Put their accomplishments in pro boxing down on paper and manny is much more impressive lb for lb. head up we did see Floyd tentatively try to fight manny but to be honest he looked bothered and backed up all night to amuck smaller guy which proves the lb for lb status of manny. Floyds ppl always have to defend his greatness which proves once again that he isn't as good as manny overall Bc no one has to defend pacquiao. What he did in boxing stands for itself.
Max Kellerman is that special kind boxing analyst, he makes points that are truly solid, most people don't understand that when it comes to weight classes 1 weight division just a difference of a few pounds can make a world of difference and give the advantage to the naturally bigger boxer, go up 3, 4 and 5 divisions and you are basically a boxer's equivalent of a 4 cylinder car's motor fitted to drive around a full sized Luxury Sedan's chassis and body, as you go up in weight from a smaller weight division, your weight as in individual pounds increase in value, same goes in reverse or opposite if you dominate a weight class and go down in weight to fight in a lighter weight class then your individual value of pound for pound loses value, if this still doesn't make sense to you then maybe you all need to watch a video here on UA-cam called Honey Badger vs 6 Lions then maybe that would be more to your enlightening flavor, that's a perfect example of a superior pound for pound species, no bigger than a mid sized dog or smaller really, when it was all said and done the 6 Lions wanted no part of it, in boxing best pound for pound has nothing to do with the fact that you are undefeated, it has to do with how much value your individual pounds have given the advantage you are giving up to a bigger man, obviously you have to have some kind of winning record otherwise you can't use this type of equation to offset the value of individual pounds, so my honest opinion is if Floyd Mayweather Jr dreamt that he could actually beat Manny Pacquiao in 2009 then he owes Pacquiao a call to apologize, don't bother bringing Marquez up as an example because it would only further prove how little you know about boxing, Boxing is a game of Rock-Paper-Scissor you can beat 10 boxers in a row and still lose to the 11th boxer who's lost to all of the 10 boxers you beat, remember this because examples like this make people understand things a little clearer, in a town You can be the only survivor of a deadly decease but still die from a common cold hence the Upset
pacman did cover more ground lets be honest
+Sean Lewis thats his point
+Lion Heart 10 world title in 8 different divisions. He is the first and only boxer in boxing history to ever acheive that. There may never be another boxer who can equal or surpass that. Sleep on it.
+Lion Heart his legacy doesn't stop on those losses. Those losses means nothing compared to how he acheived those titles. Mayweather record 49-0 same as Marcianio's, nothing special. especially you know it means IV9-0.
+Lion Heart even Floyd said a true great champion can bounced back from a defeat. PAC bounced back after that KO. Muhammad Ali is considered the Greatest and he has a few loses. why? do your research on why.
+Lion Heart Money has nothing to do with legacy my friend. I think Pacquiao won the may 2nd fight even tho he is not a natural welter weight. Pac is the best fighter of this era in my book, and an all time great for sure.
Hands down pac-man! 8 division champ. Easily beats 50 and 0.
Well floyd maybe 50 and 0 but let's be honest some of those decision wins were questionable. And if you think that losing will not affect your legacy, lets not forget serafim todorov beat floyd in Atlanta!
mr. kellerman your views is absolutely right, pacquaio only d boxer who did it from flyweight to superwelterweight champion.
Rodolfo Baliga and got stronger and faster, Manny could probably beat GGG
If we're talking skill then floyd easily, but if we're talking about legacy and greatness, easily pacquioa.
YEAH running and hugging are skills now..
I think Max Kellerman makes real good points. The guy knows the sport on a professional level, and has tons of experience on it. In terms of legacy it's hands down Pacquiao. In terms of pure Boxing ability it's Floyd of course. As Max said you can argue it either way, but Pacquiao is the favorite in the eyes of the masses.
The masses you are talking about are pacstupid but ESPN named Floyd Mayweather the great fighter of this era, I think pac was 2nd.
+Demetrius McClain Like Kellerman said. "Let's not play dumb" Mayweather beat every fighter he ever faced. Yes he is the greatest pure Boxer of this era. But in the eyes of the masses the legacy goes to Pacquiao. ESPN is one entity. You will have different picks from different entities. Besides I wouldn't exactly say ESPN is known for Boxing.
+Manuel Araujo-Guzman lmao bro that's the dumbest shit I ever heard.. how pac legacy better than Floyd when pac got knocked out by marquez and Floyd beat pac and marquez and ever other boxer that pac beat? not understanding
+Thug4u3 Once again, like Kellerman said "Mayweather fans have a certain way of thinking". You don't understand because you're biased for one side. Only an honest individual can understand this. Legacy is not determined by wins or losses.
+Manuel Araujo-Guzman I understand his argument. I think Floyd is better than Pacquiao, and in my opinion it aint even close. But Pacquiao has done incredible things in boxing, 8 division champ is no joke lol
I remember when Floyd tried everything and any kind of excuses to fight a 30 year old very Prime and distructive Manny Pacquiao. He knows Manny style will caught up on him so when Floyd sees the moment of Pac's dipping performance that's when he ask for the fight.
But when Max says Mayweather fought Oscar pass his prime what him what did Pacman do? Then, on top of that, Mayweather was trying to fight Oscar way before the fact? And a lot of people have been calling out GGG aside from the usual suspects, like Laura... GGG has become the feared fighter of his class, but on the contemporary, mysteriously one of the most called out fighter who evades blue chip fighters?
Pacman is the GOAT!!!!
Floyd is taller than Manny. Plus, Floyd also has a significant farther reach than Manny. The sum is a complete reach advantage against most of Floyd's opponents. Meaning, if they both leaned on each others head or chest using their fists with their arms straight, Floyd's fists will already be touching Manny's head or chest while there will be a large gap between Manny's fists and Floyd's head or chest. Since Floyd is taller than Manny, Floyd will have further reach advantage whenever he leans forward for a punch. This is what Floyd has been taking advantage of all these years.
That is the main reason he has been winning. He will just throw in a punch which will surely connect and then he will just quickly move away to avoid the counter punch or just quickly clinch or hug his opponent and then just wait for the referee to safely separate them from the clinch. If it is not possible to throw in a punch, he will just run away from his opponent until he finds an opportunity to throw in another punch. Then, he will just repeat the process again and again and again. Just like what he has been doing all these years.
Plus, it also plays a big role in his defense maneuvers since he has been using mainly his long arms for leverage whenever he switch positions. That is why it is a lot easier for him to bob and weave, duck and faint compared to other boxers. It's just Physics. Plus, it covers more part of his torso as it acts as a shield whenever he uses shoulder roll while he turns the left part of his back against the enemy and leans or moves backward. Even if he raises his shoulder to protect his head, he still has enough reach to cover his torso. That is why most of his opponents have a hard time connecting punches. He is just naturally granted with farther reach. It has nothing to do with skill or intellect.
Only a few can be a defensive genius. It is not a term given to only one person because it is not superlative in nature. Mayweather is NOT a defensive genius because "the best defense is a good offense." Mayweather is NOT known for his offensive capability. Pacquiao IS KNOWN for his offensive capability. Therefore, Pacquiao is the defensive genius. Being a defensive genius does not mean that you do not get hit. It just means that you have the best defense because you have a good offense. Pacquiao has a great offense. Floyd is known for hugging and running.
Hugging and running are not offensive maneuvers. They are not even defensive maneuvers. They are what scared girls do. That is why girls do not get hit. Real men does get hit. They avoid getting hit but are not afraid to get hit. That is why real men do not run from each other and they do not hug each other in a fight, because it is a fight. Unless the fight is already over or the fight is MMA.
Anyway, MAX KELLERMAN said that Pacquiao is the better P4P fighter than Mayweather BASED ON UNDENIABLE FACTS.
Watch the following on UA-cam:
- Why Manny Pacquiao is Greater than Floyd Mayweather Jr. - A Lesson in History
- Did Mayweather Cheat Against Pacquiao?
by MakeSenseBoxing
Max would make a good lawyer, he could argue any point lol
floyd cant fight toe to toe with pacman. he wants to hug everyone.
max is right.
Pound for Pound and Best Boxer are two separate categories that most don't understand
I can hear Max talk all day. He's a very educated and brilliant mind. He carries his own radio show everyday with Marcellus.
He has a major point and it’s said that Mayweather fans just don’t get it! Blinded by the record.
Golovkin ducked ward. GGG wants a PPV??? Kell Brook and Daneil Jacobs called him out, fight them until Canelo or at least one. It's GGG fault he hasn't faught anyone .
That's the truth, everyone says that Ggg is ducked by everyone yet, there is always a bum willing to fight him who has no chance to beat him.
You out of your mind. When did jacobs call him out? When? I'll wait. Brook is a welter weight and if he gets in the ring wit ggg and ggg beats him what you haters gonna say? 'Oh brook was just a welterweight bum who ggg knew he could beat.' So stop it.
How is he ducking lara? Lara isnt even a champion at mw. Never fought above 154. His own manager even said 'we never sent a formal offer.' Which means he's all bark but no bite. Look up the video. But im suppose to believe because ggg doesnt reply to lara's petty social media rants that means he's ducking? Just stop it's pathetic. You wanna support andre fraud go ahead. No need to make up stories to make yourself feel better abouy hating ggg for no reason.
Oh please the ONLY time i recall lara EVER being on ppv was vs canelo. And dont act like canelo didnt sell the majority of those tickets. Even tho lara got robbed by the cinnamon girl. Lara been fighting in this country WAY more years than ggg yet ggg just sold out stadiums and did 150000+ buys. Why you think promoters wont risk putting lara on ppv without a top name? Because he has no real fanbase. Which is why if ggg went below 160 to fight floyd it's a win regardless because he becomes a bigger name and has a better chance of beating an undefeated fighter. If lara was serious how come his ppl aint send a real offer to ggg's ppl??? Honestly i would favor lara against ggg but i understand why lara is irrelevant to ggg and if cinnamon girl canela wouldnt keep running from ggg and give him his title, ggg would have probably already accepted his challenge. Dominic Wade was his ibf mandatory in case you didnt know. Stop fangirling.
+Jersey'sOwn201 finally someone knows something about boxing
Max is a smart smart guy who's talking to lure fm into a rematch with pacman
max has a good point
I'm sorry but max is a fucking guru with boxing sounds like a professor
Pacquiao of course ...may weather same broner. this two guy better in marathon...
Max can talk off the cuff but has no clue! Manny has been KO'd three times in three different weight classes and that makes you the greatest to ever lace'm up over TBE! Delusional is what I call it!
Pacquiao is the “greater” as in what he’s done outside the ring but inside the ring floyd is clear of him
Max Kellerman is a truly under appreciated boxing analyst. The guy has a firm understanding of the sport and really is very knowledgeable when expressing his views or opinions in regards to it. In my opinion he's one of the best analysts in the sport. I respect Teddy Atlas for the contributions and dedication to the sport, but i'd much rather listen to someone like Kellerman. Atlas really wears me out, to the point where I consider muting my television so I'm able to enjoy the fight without being subjected to the same old shtick with that hack.
Max used to be good but he fell victim to the HBO agenda. Top fighters have wanted to fight GGG throughout his career and he ducked them. He didnt fight them eventually, he just straight ducked them. SMH
GGG got two shots at Canelo and his career has not taken off. He is looking like his career is over because he is not willing to fight other top middleweights.
Yea Max is seriously high on something. These interviews gave him way too much respect
IF BEING UNDEFEATED IS THE GAUGE OF THE BEST FIGHTER EVER, THEN MAYWEATHER IS STILL NOT GREATER THAN ROCKY MARCIANO
SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BOTH NO LOSS BUT MARCIANO SIMPLY HAS THE MORE KNOCK OUT PERCENTAGE THAN FLOYD
Max sure Knows his boxing
spoiler: paquiao is the one max kellerman choses. why cuz hes an exiting fighter
I bet you a troll.
+Million Dollars i bet u black
+domingo jr cabral haha both floy and pac exited boxing hahah
Million Dollars i bet u got offended cuz he chose pac
+Million Dollars sorry to let you kno but ur comback are wack as fuk , u fkn piss boy bitch.
If Floyd was the same size as Pacquiao, he'd have gotten knocked out fairly quickly, even despite his running and hugging.
Very true thanks for explaining it To understand it more manny is the goat of boxing tnx
A Fucking Flyweight won 5 Lineal Championships and 10 World titles in 8 Different weight classes. FUCK THAT!!!
NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT....EVER and probably NEVER AGAIN. 😅😅😅
max just spilled straight facts yet you can still still hear the floyd grupies in the background bbbbbbut....
+jamm356 lol, dontae's and ellie
Great speaker, made pure sense. I also rooted for Floyd Mayweather in all fights, but i know that pacman is a better pound for pound fighter
lmao so GGG could fight bums that have zero chance to win ...on PPV for 150k fans and that's a win for GGG's brand/camp cause it's a 'slow build' (GGG's 33 years old iirc).. but Floyd can't fight Undefeated Champion Danny G cause that's a fight "nobody believes Danny can win"
yall all know floyd is the master ... you just say it in a really funny ass way
Namaste
too bad max floyd didn't beat pacquiao.
your correct max, pacquiao is the GOAT in boxing.
my jaw is getting tired by watching him speaking like a machine gun!
It's just simply ridiculous to base a fighters over all credentials on weight class ascension, instead of technical pugilistic execution and victories over the coarse of one's career. It's an inappropriate criterion. In a school analogy, It's like rating student academic achievements in a subpar standard school, because he move up in grades within an inadequate system of dumb down curriculum, as appose to the student who's academically adept in college who's consistently a genius in a higher tier system. Max it's not how many weight classes you traversed, but it's the over skill set integrity and the unblemished victories that it has manifested. He's really abstractly moving the goal post here to aggrandize Pacquio. In plus by the way, Pacquio performance is dubious in PED suspicion to be so inappropriately presumptive.
Your school analogy must have been a 4th grader transcending at 5th and 6th levels vs a 4th grader gaining honors at his own grade level.
Pro boxers disagree with max and trainers too... Enough said
Pac is greater than floyd. 8 division titilists and beat all common opponents more dominantly.
You can't make a case for Floyd being greater. Dont need to be apologetic about it.
Mayweather fought them first tho , pac took Mayweather's left overs except cotto
Max made them look stupid lol
I may add FYI, Manny is one of a kind, all alone up there with 8 division world championship. Manny Pacquiao, the fighting senator is the most entertaining boxer who started at 108 flywt up to 154 middle wt. We may not see another phenom (an all time great) like him in our life time. So let’s just respect his achievements and appreciate his effort to entertain us everytime he is in the ring. Now he does not need to box for the money. He is thinking of helping others so part of his winnings is for some poor people in his country. He is building houses to give away for free for the less fortunate, instead of buying luxurious items to brag about. Thanks Senator for being a role model, a humble champion and philanthropist. too bad he is a Filipino, not American to be recognized as better than FM. But the world knows it. over & out.
he said paquiao is the one the best pfp . great
Max the voice of reason
Max Kellerman is only the voice of HBO reasoning...
+Demetrius McClain Floyd Mayweather is the better boxer and would probably win at all the weights he fought versus Pacqiuao(130-147). But it is pound for pound. He's point is p4p Pacqiuao is better considering his size. Pacqiuao really shouldn't be fighting at that weight considering his actual size. If Mayweather fights GGG he would lose(let's admit it, his too big, strong and very skilled). I would still rank Mayweather higher than GGG though regardless if he lost.
Max knows his boxing his totally correct 🥊
Max is difinitely right....🤗
Pacquiao is now 42 yo, is scheduled to fight on August 21, 2021 in Las Vegas, NV against the undefeated / unified WBC & IBF 147lbs champion E. Spence Jr an eleven years younger. They're fighting for the 'Lineal', Ring plus WBA, WBC, IBF titles. Spence is much taller, has longer reach, way bigger, heavier. And he's the current # 1 in the Welterweight plus the # 5 in the Pound for Pound best as of June 8, 2021.
Floyd is TBE my ASS!!! TBE?! The Bestrunner Ever!!!
Nelson your a hater Mayweather Jr is TBE P4P pure boxer in boxing History.
+equityhomebuyers Put down the crack pipe and start watching the videos of boxing matches so you can educate yourself about the sport.
+Nelson Ranchez best of his era
do you know boxing floyd mayweather is not a runner he is a defensive specialist he hits and doesn't get hit and it can be argued that floyd is TBE
Very well said Max! Pac is better pound per pound than Floyd the Marathon Runner.
Would Pacquiao beat Floyd in 2005, I would love to hear the answer to this question? In 2005 Floyd had his first fight at welterweight while Manny was a Featherweight. you guys are so bias an disingenuous instead of being real..its sickening!
King of Catch weight fights? Not Hopkins, not Dela Hoya, not Mayweather, not Pacquiao. It's Canelo.
Watch here: ua-cam.com/video/h98siP6gBP4/v-deo.html
King Pacman!
Lmfao
You just schooled these fools
Max schoold the herds..lol
need I remind you all almost everyone in the comments section agreed with what Max Kellerman said. so don't try and tell me different
+Rastaman Miller the world is a lot bigger than max and the comment section though
S Saini hence why I said everyone in the comment section.........DUH!
I will tell you who Oscar didn't beat. Felix Sturm.
i believe floyd is a better boxer but i agree with max. arguments can be made for both sides because its not clear cut.
good analogy,,, lesson to learn
Those interviewers were being totally disrespectful with a boxing analyst legend. Ask your question... close your mouth... and LISTEN.
Floyd and Manny are both great, I think it should just be a tie. Why can't they both be #1 P4P? They have a lot in common
Floyd: wife beater, uses illegal shit, ducked fighters, but he tops being the self absorbed prick.
Manny: wife cheater, uses illegal shit, ducked fighters, but he tops being the sore loser (between the two).
Although, he is a very humble person.
But I'm still a Pacman fan! What Max should've said was, Do you know the definition of pound?, if you do, then you'd know Floyd doesn't pound (striking or hitting with force repeatedly) his opponents. I think his analysis in using the term pound (as in weights) is a good argument. It is called POUND 4 POUND.
Got Your point there, that is indeed a very smart argument there Max with lots of Facts on Manny Pacquiao legacy compared to Floyd Mayweathers record. One thing is for sure Manny always fights the best of the best fighters: younger, bigger, stronger fighters at their strongest peak condition not imposing any unfavorable conditions that will be a disadvantage for opponents. The Toughest fight for Manny Pacquiao to date in his boxing career to fight the Undefeated Big, Tall & Strong Errol Spence. Floyd Mayweather would not want to fight Keith Thurman or Errol Spence, as his motivation is not for the love of the sport of Boxing but Money. Pacquiao is but different He is fighting the Younger, stronger, undefeated new breed of Champions He is indeed a Real Life Rocky true story. Manny Pacquiao is the underdog here some boxers even think this is way too much for Manny Pacquiao to fight others almost half his age others even say he is crazy as he can get hurt badly. An aged Legend vs a very strong young huge undefeated Champion, Manny has the heart to win it. I dont want Manny to get damaged as He should be already retired He did already so much for the sport of Boxing. I am for the older, shorter, smaller underdog boxer Manny Pacquiao, as His heart has overcome the bests of the best in Boxing the True & genuine legend 8th division World Champion Manny Pacquiao who fought his opponents at the peak of their youth & abilities. Not like Floyd Mayweather who has so many conditions against his opponents which brings them to their disadvantage but that which is favorable for Mayweather to win, that is not a fair class for a champion. Manny Pacquiao have gone through many wars & have done so many seemingly impossible feats in boxing, You dont need to prove anything to anyone anymore. As Floyd Mayweather wont even have the balls to fight Keith Thurman or Errol Spence but fight a UA-camr or a UFC or Japanese Mixed martial arts fighter what an easy life for Floyd. Max thanks for bringing highlight to the truth, we know Manny is the True Legend with a heart, the real Peoples Champion GOD has Blessed Him indeed, He is Loved by many whether He wins or lose.
Anyone who believes that Marquez's knockout of Pacquiao was legit, should ask themselves why Marquez refused VADA testing for the Bradley fight and should also check the reputation of Marquez's "conditioning coach," Angel Heredia, not to mention the amazing enhancements at the ripe old age of 38?!@#$
I'm never a fan of Kellerman but the interviewer is such a huge Flomo, it's hilarious!
IDIOT Flomo: But he's (Chocolatito) gotten older. He's grown out of the division.
Kellerman: WHO? So has Terrence Crawford.
3 reasons those who disagree with Max are wrong:
1. Likes vs dislkes of the video (means the majority who is less likely biased)
2. You must think Rocky is greater than Ali, if not you're a hypocrite
3. You a Floyd fan which makes you biased and use your heart instead of brain (virtually all boxing experts consider Duran to be greater than Ray Leonard, which is essentially the same argument between Manny and Floyd)
I'm not a fan of Kellerman but he is absolutely correct. I like his knowledge of boxing buy his commentary on HBO is kind of annoying. I miss the old days of Don Dunphy, then Gil Clancy and Ferdie Pacheco and Barry Tompkins. Sugar Ray Leonard was great at calling a fight. Tyson would be great but I guess his speaking would be kind of a hard listen to the viewer.
Mayweather 50-0 julio cezar chaves 72 -0... So floyd didnt break the record... Floyd the running man chaves the real boxer
Hey , FLOMOS fanatic! Now, you know that your favourite boxer is using prohibited drugs. Is that fair????...... He is not only fooling american people ,neither boxing fans all over the world.
Considered as unbreakable record. 5lineal and 8 division dominating all division is unbreakable. No one can break Pacs record for atleast 100years or more. Mayweathers record for most distance accumulated in running inside the ring is unbreakable too. he also can get a record as Mr Congeniality for accumulating most hugs. Middleweight is more exciting today. Btw, Triple G wishes a catch weight at 154lbs., it could be Pacs nth. Who knows.... Pacs has been like this since flyweight.