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Looking back, it's very interesting thinking of how Lego's decisions influenced my play style as a kid. My siblings and I would set up massive battles between Star Wars rebels vs empire, or pirates vs the British, and have them kill each other left and right. Yet in our city builds and playing, I can't remember ever having cops kill the criminals; we would only have them arrest them. I wonder if that would be different if city police sets had come with guns, and I wonder if that would've changed the way I saw real-life police at all. Maybe not, but who knows, kids can be very impressionable.
My lego city cops were well armed. I gave them weapons from star wars, made some HMGs, one of my police heli had even rocket launchers. And I builded them a small tank
I always feel like people think too deeply but I know some people are ridiculously impressionable, I don't even know how those people get dressed in the morning
Good comment. My lego police and robbers were loaded up with star wars weapons and such. I definitely played with them quite violently at times. But I'm still a very peaceful and not aggressive person and I'm against war and killing in real life. I think it's healthy for kids to express violence in play so that they can process and come to terms with and develop opinions about all the violence in the world and in history and so that those instincts don't get suppressed in an unhealthy way.😊
It's a little known fact that lego even designed the osprey set to be able to fly exactly like the real vehicle, if you put it in vertical flight mode and let it go mid air, it crashed to the ground just like a real osprey
In fact, LEGO was thoughtful enough to include this incredibly realistic play feature into every LEGO set, as any structure or being falling from a large altitude will suffer physical damage, which LEGO has perfectly encapsulated in their droppable sets
Kinda reminds me of Leonardo da Vinci's tank blueprints that had gears which, when actually built, would spin the wrong way and jam up, making his invention impossible to build as an actual weapon of war.
Didn't stop me as a kid, I remember solving the gunless problem in my LEGO City by building mechs that had chainguns and missile launcher systems for some policemen, safe to say, my LEGO City's crime rate was at an all time low.
One thing to note: While the V-22 Osprey doesn’t have any civilian variants, there is at least one civilian tilt rotor aircraft on the market, the Bell Helicopter/AgustaWestland AW609. It is essentially the exact opposite of the Osprey regards to its role, as it only comes in a civilian variant. So the use of fictional tilt rotors in civilian roles within the City line might not violate LEGO’s military equipment and weapons policy after all. Though a Technic set literally called the V-22 Osprey is kind of pushing things.
I believe a thing with the Technic Osprey was it also had a fatal design flaw that went un-noticed. In the end it was easier to just cancel it all together and state the reasoning solely as the military reason.
If I recall correctly the turning mechanism of the rotor blades and the rotation of the engines worked on a single small technic gear, the one that fits in a 1×1 brick. The teeth of the gear would bend and snap due to the forces applied and the stress caused, breaking the piece
The Toys That Made Us on Netflix said it perfectly when they said that Lego had to consider if Star Wars went against their philosophy, or make millions off Lego Star Wars sets. Definitely an easy decision 😅 Great video about Lego's very interesting history with weapons in sets 👍
And the extent to which they follow their policy (no modern military designs) just creates a lucrative market for third-party knock-offs. The only impact they're making is to hurt their bottom line.
@@ariochiv Not quite. Their decision still means that official lego sets, ie. the most popular lego-style toys, aren't actual military themed ones. Of course in different countries they do also have some knock-off lego toys (or rather, legally distinct but compatible brands) on shelves, some of which are military-themed, but the majority of them are not, because of lego's decision.
Hey that's me as well, I have Sembo Type 10 and Sluban Humvee, F-16, and UH-60 Black Hawk also have Cobi (Polish brick) KV-1, P-51 Mustang, and M41 Bulldog
The Osprey set also had a crippling mechanical flaw due to its design and the placement of the clutch. You could destroy a trio of vulnerable 8 tooth gears very easily when running multiple functions simultaneously without the clutch engaging when one feature was hindered.
"Lego currently bans: "modern military" weapons and vehicles. Modern being defined as WW2 to Present Day" WW1 weapons and weapons created before WW2 but used in it: -Hey, kids! Wanna play with m1911 pistol or Maxim machine gun? Katanas produced during WW2: -It's not fair!
WW1 is probably on that list as well just because of how equally brutal and horrific it was but they do make katanas since those existed long before the world wars.
I feel like this rule or guidelines is something best decided intuitively and not with a hard rule. I work at a convenience store thats been held up at gun point. A set where a bandit steals gold from an old West Bank is separated enough from the modern day is almost feels like fantasy. Especially when the internal logic of stealing gold is so far away from a modern robbery. but making a set where a robber uses a realistic gun to hold up a store and then the police use realistic gun to shoot that guy, it just doesn't sit right. It feels too close to the real security camera footage I have watched of my own co workers having guns put in their faces.
Yeah, the context of the set should be taken into consideration. If I had to decide on a hard rule, I'd go with 'anything older than 1900 is probably okay'.
Gold gets stolen all the time in the modern world as it's very untraceable, stealing money is a good way to get your ass in jail if anyone wrote down the serial number. I understand your point with seeing why humans can be cognitively dissident when it comes to older history than when it's newer history. Like how people are ok with violence in something like starship troopers but if you replaced the bugs with humans people would have an issue with it
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg Because we're so far away from older violence, that it doesn't bother us when a knight cuts a head off but when terrorists do it. It's too real, because you can experience it happening in real time.
I'm perfectly happy to avoid official depictions of modern firearms and war machines / playsets from LEGO. If nothing else it leaves a pretty solid and reliable niche for third party companies, knowing LEGO will never compete with them with similar sets or accessories. There are other things I question about the themes they release, but I guess it's hard to turn down popular multi-million dollar franchises.
Even if Lego's avoiding it, there's still several other companies willing to make military sets. Cobi's one of the big ones with entire lines of military vehicles, planes, and boats from WWI to present day. I've got a few of their tanks plus one of their battleships, and they are solid sets overall.
If there's one consistently good thing about clone brands, it's the fact that they aren't bound by LEGO's philosophies on stuff like depicting weapons/military vehicles/etc, which makes them particularly great for any purposes where you want your minifigs to have firearms that aren't just tubes with handles, like recreating historical scenes or wargaming
For Asia, Sluban is a great choice, they have become better now with their military sets and are considerably cheaper than Cobi, I have the Black Hawk, F-16, and the Humvee and I love them, I sometimes get some Lego parts to make them even better and totally convert my Humvee to Japanese Type 93 SAM launcher. Also, have Sembo Japanese Type 10 MBT as well
Surprisingly, every Indiana Jones movie before Kingdom of the Crystal Skull took place before 1939 which is when World War 2 started, so those sets don’t technically break their ban on modern weapons (weapons from World War 2 and after), but the sets they made of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull could be a different story since it took place in 1957.
Left out the Jonny Thunder sets, LEGO's attempt at a license free version of Indiana Jones. While technically adventure fantasy they did bring in more realistic post WW1 firearms in those sets blurring the line approaching WW2.
I'm shocked you didn't mention the Marvel superhero line where Punisher has been brought in... I'm mentioning the Daily Bugle set where he is dual wielding what are supposed to be firearms since... He's the Punisher
LEGO actually made an earlier version of the Sopwith Camel: set no. 3451, released in 2001, I own it as well as the Baron. I actually didn't know there was a 2012 re-release until this video!
I own all three of them. Really was obsessed with them about 10 years ago as well as the wright flyer. The newer sopwith camel is quite cool because the control stick actually moves the parts of the wings through wires
@@svartmetallyst7712 🤦♂️ That's because NEST uses actual ospreys, I was thinking that it would be an osprey with Lennox, some NEST soldiers, an autobot, and maybe a decepticon as well
I swear I remember there being something like a Taser in one of the Lego City sets. I remember seeing something shaped like a firearm, but painted a non metallic red color. Maybe it was meant to represent a flare gun though.
I've always been cool with Lego's choice to avoid modern weapons and vehicles. And honestly if they did allow that stuff, it would cause a serious shift in what fans wanted. Many of us are happy as things are but there are those who would love to see stuff like shown at 10:37 as real sets. The thing is if you open that Pandora's Box then I'm sure fans would start clamoring for Call of Duty and whatever other FPS games with overly elaborate gun loading animations are popular. That would really change the whole landscape and not in a good way. Lego is charming for its innocence as it's presented. Those custom parts are fine too. It's not official Lego so it's always isolated to whoever gets it.
I just dislike how inconsistent they are about it like you have sets like IJ line which features literal WW2 German soldiers and James Bond with his Aston martin, that's straight up just military cause the MI in MI6 stands for Military intelligence. I feel like I'd have more respect for the rule if they were consistent about.
Lego already makes guns, cannons, blunderbus/muskets, revolvers, and rifles. There’s no reason that making other types of guns would ‘change the landscape of Lego” in any meaningful way, good or bad. It would simply give the Customer more options for creativity.
I don't know, I fully understand end respect Lego's no modern weapons policy, but I would really love if they had ww2 and ww1 sets (beyond the 2 ww1 plains). Image lego panzers with custom minifigers or a lego Yamato or USS Missouri in the same size the giant impirial star destroyer
Also reminds of the Lego City police Shinook helicopter. I had a friend who got the set for his birthday and immediately we turned it into an army chopper which guns down terrorists as he also had lots of brickarms weapons.
An interesting detail that was once pointed out to me about LEGO Star Wars box art is that characters holding blasters can’t be shown shooting directly at another character, the angle has to at least be slightly off.
In the 70s, all the legos I had were just standard bricks, what I made most was all war items like planes, tanks, battle ships, space ship fighters, all sorts of things for war. Boys will be boys!
Heh, same. we even made functional crossbows out of LEGO and some rubber bands, shooting 2x4s at each other, making actual weapons out of LEGO. It's a small wonder none of us lost an eye...
“Lego makes some weird decisions”. It’s also a weird decision to repeatedly run a po-faced war video game promotion in the middle of a documentary about the history of Lego trying to avoid war toys.
I wonder how deliberately ironic that was. UA-camrs take these ads because (like Lego and Star Wars) they can't afford not to, but it's obvious that they don't like them.
I wonder how deliberately ironic that was. UA-camrs take these ads because (like Lego and Star Wars) they can't afford not to, but they obviously don't like them.
Great job explaining why LEGO crosses their own line when it comes to LEGO military. Ole Kirk Christiansen would not approve of what LEGO has become today... well at least with it's morals surrounding this topic. But money talks as they say.
I’m sure he VERY would be disappointed or upset on how desensitized we all are to war and violence, but I think he would be happy that the Boeing set was pulled as soon as it’s real version became in use of the us military for not what it was made to do (search and rescue). I doubt he would be fond of the other ones due to it using the fantasy or historical perspective, since it’s still technically violence
I remember the original Lego Batman and Indiana Jones came with guns for the villains and such. They were revolvers and Tommy guns and even the pirates came with muskets and pistols.
Another interesting thing is that last year we got a Robert Muldoon Figure from Jurassic Park as part of the 30th anniversary set. He has a gun.. that shoots traquiliser darts
A minor technicality about the Indiana Jones sets. The first three Indiana Jones movies take place in the late 30’s (Raiders is set in 1936). Germany did not invade Poland and thereby start WWII until 1939, so the Indy sets, in addition to being license property and fantasy, have a third layer of protection.
It's an interesting topic to debate. Lego doesn't allow realistic military weapons or builds that reflect real life military hardware, yet lots of builds are based on or entirely lifting designs from militaristic blueprints. There's the one fighter jet build that's red white and blue and the sets mentioned in this video. Not to mention whole lines like Mars Mission, og Lego Agents, Exo Force, and Bionicle as a whole. Giving militaristic and/or sci-fi fantasy designs bright vibrant colors and slightly changing the shape of a few parts here and there often times results in a kid-friendly product for most companies, as far as I observe. An argument could be made that because Lego is catering pretty hard to adult builders/collectors lately, they should separate their products into adult and kids' branches. Adults can get the more realistic side of Lego; insane part counts, collector value, book length instructions, and mature subject matter like war or historical accuracy, while kids get the bright and whimsical side; simple builds, tiny paper instructions, small to moderate part count, bright vibrant colors, and wacky zany fun and adventure. I'm not saying that kids and adults should be separated from lines like City or Ninjago or the many licensed lines. What I'm saying is adults should be able to have more realistic and complex builds that complement their proclivities and interests and challenge the mental side of building, while kids should have something that challenges their imagination yet doesn't glorify conflict or inspire ideas of "this robber has a gun, let's make him shoot the cops like I saw on the news." Many argue that's what Lego's already doing with the UCS lines and the many architecture and historical builds, but it would be really cool to see an official branching off point where adults have the freedom to put together an accurate historical event like D-Day for example, while kids get more Mixels or something like that.
IIRC the makers of Bionicle have actually mentioned in interviews that LEGO originally opposed the characters having weapons at first. To get weapons into the theme, they were rebranded as "Toa Tools", and were supposed to have as much of a focus on non-combat actions like climbing and swimming as combat. Even the developers of the Mata Nui Online Game were restricted in showing combat, and were specifically mandated to not show characters striking each other.
I would of loved if LEGO had the license to make a 1980's G.I. Joe line. Although the show was based on the military, it was also what you would consider "fantasy". LEGO is missing out on making so many sets based on 1980's toys, cartoons and shows.
The rescue Osprey set being pulled was probably a smart choice considering the real Osprey is known for killing it's own passengers and pilots more than saving anyone.
That Lego camera piece is great because it's easy to customise depending on the setting. It's easily recognisable as a large video camera or CCTV camera in a modern city but it also works as a futuristic rocket launcher or scanning device in a space theme. Not surprising that Lego is more willing to bend its morals when licenced themes are involved... Although there's one City set in which a police officer has a gun. Lego claimed it was a baton but that guy with the body armour and aviator sunglasses was definitely dressed to blast some bad guys (or shoot out their tyres, at least) A T-bar would have worked better as a tonfa. I wish the dynamite factory set came out. That could have had some fun play features. Hopefully instructions get leaked if they're not available already.
I had some 5-6 years when I got my first lego sets (one of which was a space minifig pack ) that had one of those "space gun" / camera pieces. My furst take on it, withoiut anybody telling me, was that it was a bazooka (it was shoulder mounted and had a crosshairs to see where you shoot it). I think children have way more imagination than they ever thought. Those 1x2 plates as guns in the cowboys set would have been enough for kids to understand.
lego space gun/camera was regularly used as a camera in the 80s an 90s cos thats how big video cameras were, i remember having one that came with a 2x1 cassette piece, also Denmark is not America, guns are not as common in the rest of the civilized world.
This is a slight misconception about America. The US has way more gun violence, and way more literal guns, but both are because average gun ownership is skewed by a small population that owns a lot of guns. Your random everyday American hasn't ever held a handgun, and most haven't even seen one in person before (except in the holster of a cop, also a problem). The US's cultural relationship with guns (where we like to see them and where we don't) is in many ways the same as it is in the rest of the "civilized world."
@Mark_LaCroix plus America has the whole "Second Amendment" thing which has had 200+ years of cultural influence regarding private ownership and use of firearms. If you could magically alter physics so that guns, cannons, missiles etc were globally now impossible to use anymore, Americans would get just as big into swords, spears and trebuchets.
@@JonCrs10 They already are, they make up for a lot of HEMA communities, and sword/medieval weaponry collectors. Also they're big on their knives as well.
@Mark_LaCroix I think you underestimate how casual gun ownership is in the US. Over the last decade gun purchases and ownership has ballooned upwards of 60%, with largest percentage being women. Along party lines Republicans are largely the same, but Democrats have slowly been inching up from 36% in 1999 to roughly 53% as of 2022. Most Americans do have a passing knowledge and first-hand experience with a gun. How vocal they are about it is a very different matter. You're right in that public regard to guns is changing. Chances are most of your neighbors have a gun, but they're much less likely to bring it up or flaunt it. Here in California, a very heavily restricted state, well over 70% of the population owns a fire arm of some kind.
So what actually happens to all those sets which have been shipped but recalled. Does it go to landfill or do they tediously open every box, separate the pieces and put them back in inventory or simply give the parts away?
What about set #31039? It has something that bears a lot of resemblance to the F-35, a modern VTOL fighter jet. It is a 3 in 1 set but that is the main image on the set’s box. The set’s name is “blue power jet building kit” if anyone is curious.
The first 3 Indiana Jones movies are set before WW2 in the late 1930's, the 4th film is set in 1957 and Indiana Jones 5 is set in 1969, so Lego technically didn't make WW2 sets. They managed to find a loophole
Edit: ok you did bring up Indy... nvm "Rather than accurate depictions of real life weaponry and military style vehicles" do we need to bring up the Indiana Jones line with it's pistols, and WWII era prop planes that may or may not have been used by a specific German faction? ("Fighter plane chase" 77012, released 2023)
@@froggore52 yea i noticed that and then put a little 'edit: you did bring it up" thing at the to of my comment. could have deleted the comment entirely but decided not to.
Disclaimer: Since science fiction is fiction set in the future, historical fiction exists in the past. I noticed if the IPs are set during a time period (medieval, vietnam, wild west, etc.) then the aesthetics creates the ideas for the weapons and vehicles of the era. Imagine a knight without a horse and sword. Rather than building blatant machines of war.
I respect their policy not just in compromises but their willingness to revisit each issue as time marches on. I remember Will Arnett talking about The Lego Movie and how much more violent it would be regarded later if we ever invent real laser guns.😄
"embrace weapons in fantasy uniiverces" more like "gimme the money this franchise brings, if it aint modern its good enough" by the by you can make a weapon and brick built guns if you want more firepower, lego is about building so you can make Panzer 3 in desert camo, italian and polish tanks where this yellowish color, americans had these brownish tanks, yeah you cant make a russian vehicle or a grey german one but still, if people want war they will turn to mega blocks call of duty and halo, and to be honest i absolutely love their sets, lego compatible too and thats from personal experience, for example outfit a lego ship hull with mega blocks style weaponry and you have an amazing piece of equitment.
It is worth mentioning, than Lego isn't the only company with a policy like this. In fact many companies which already existed during the war later implemented a ban on modern weapons.
Just a quick note from a napoleonic geek: those pirate guns are not rifles, they are muskets. Yes, there’s a difference. And the plural of cannon is still cannon.
I remember buying a few of those Toy Story sets when I was younger, then mixing and matching them with different heads/hands and giving them star wars blasters so that I could have actual LEGO army guys. It was fun.
Great video, completely missed out on talking about Dino Attack though, that was as close to military equipment Lego had ever gotten. Great video none the less
POV: Lego doesn't add green colour bricks into their Lego sets so kids can't make military things to potentially give people anxiety about the Vietnam war at the time. Years later: Lego adds Vietnam war soldiers into Lego Toy Story.
I'm pretty sure there was a two-seater delta wing fighter jet set, granted it was painted in white and red, had no insignia and it's only had 2 missiles which could've been just landing gear lights.
And along came Brickator 3:44 😵 Good video. But it's no trouble for me because there's Brickarms, Battlebrick, etc. that make better weapons than LEGO could ever hope to.
funny story, so in my school during inside recess we can do legos and I just time after time found guns, knives, cursed parts, etc. I also found a replica of a irl bazooka somehow💀
In the case of the osprey; numerous countries were lined up to take civil models for use in search and rescue. A combination of cost, reliability and maintenance issues caused them all to hold off or entirely cancel. The osprey is at the end of the day an unarmed transport; all that separates a civil and military version is paint job and what it's transporting.
I had so many of the "Army men on patrol" like I had a whole ass fleet of green jeeps and a formative army of the figures. It had to be over at least 25. I think I still have an unopened one somewhere.
I find the reason policy in itself admirable, however, people should not be too sensitive. In Germany for example, a country with very low gun violence, one of the most popular toy producers, Playmobil, regulary sells police sets with guns and it doesnt seem to have any major negative impact on the kids.
Yea... I guess it's education and parenting around such toys that make or brake kids. Of course kids reenact fighting. Either with figurines, toy weapons to wield oneself or in such basic ways as fencing with sticks. Fencing with sticks or other stick-like objects seems to be a rather instinctual part of childplay... Whatever parents (or adult role models in their lives) teach them about the world and on proper behavior, laws, rights and duties is the actually important stuff. Thats were kids are truly set up for who they will become...
Fun fact: If you downloaded the app Lego Builder to see if the instructions for the Osprey were on there, you would smash your head into the wall IT IS NOT ON THERE PLEASE I WANT TO BUILD IT I LOVE THE AIRCRAFT
I love how lego tries to be kid friendly across all themes, and then there's bionicle characters like Pridak and Krika with red marks on their mouth and/or limbs 😂
I had a design that I was going to submit to Lego Ideas until I learned about this rule surrounding Lego, as a Sailor of 6 years, I spent time on a few ships, and I was inspired to start making up an Aircraft Carrier design with mini planes, I got a few of the planes done, but then I found out about this, and I kinda just dropped it, never got around to finishing it.
I laughed at the comment about the astronomical crime rate, you're not wrong! Though to be fair it's never violent crime. "A man is getting mugged in Lego city!" >beat as mugger and victim look for the alley< "HEY!" "You can BUILD a man getting mugged in Lego city!"
Lego: War sets aren't allowed! Modern military stuff is BANNED! Also Lego: Here's a whole Star ¨WARS" theme. Hey let's have Indiana Jones get chased by literal nazi minifigures. Here's a nazi plane chasing Indiana Jones, fully recreated and in detail. Here's Bane's Tumbler car with military colors. Oh don't forget the literal green soldiers with green guns and a green jeep. Here's a military Osprey Technic set that we'll remove from sale but then have it on sale again. Why not take a Red Skull minifigure wearing a black nazi uniform while you're at it. Oh and remember when the Death Star genocided an entire planet? Well you'll be SURPRISED at what we got in store for ya...
I was a kid in the late 90s/early 2000s and I can remember my parents always trying to keep war-themed games/movies/toys away from me no matter how much I was into that stuff, since they are very pacifist. But growing up during that time, I also remember seeing a abrams tank, hummvees and soldiers doing door-to-door raids in the news every evening. I ended up joining the military as an adult, so I could finally enjoy all that stuff and I still do. So I learned that no matter how hard you close your eyes, the reality stays reality and if someone is born with war in his mind, no parenting in the world can change that😂
@@limol5375- "sure" 😂😂😂😂 Out of curiosity, was your parents reaction anything like _"Dang it! And you see? We attempted to keep you AWAY from all of that, yet, nature defeated nurture with you."_ ?
Reminds me of a kid i knew when i was a child, his parents didnt even let him be in a snowball fight, calling it too violent, as well as the numerous times the parents tried policing us on that, kid got attacked by a feral dog and didnt know how to fight it off, last i remember his parents stopped with thier bs after that, but he was a mess, probably needed facial reconstruction after bc he kept wearing a mask all the time after
So if Lego defines "modern conflict" as realistic WWII-present, that means a WWI theme complete with artillery and mustard gas is potentially on the table. Right, LEGO? I really want that "Trench Sweeper" set! 😤
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That is bullshit they love star wars
It is a cool game though
@CaleAdams It literary has Wars in the name.
@JonatasAdoM duh that's my point
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Lego in 1950s: No green bricks because kids would build war vehicles
Lego in 2010: Army set made entirely of green bricks
they also made an indiana jones set with nazis
@@baanaanaana and soviets
Well, evolution is good: I'm glad society isn't still stuck in the 50's 😀
@@poykehmusic yeah, i mean old is gold but not always
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Looking back, it's very interesting thinking of how Lego's decisions influenced my play style as a kid. My siblings and I would set up massive battles between Star Wars rebels vs empire, or pirates vs the British, and have them kill each other left and right. Yet in our city builds and playing, I can't remember ever having cops kill the criminals; we would only have them arrest them. I wonder if that would be different if city police sets had come with guns, and I wonder if that would've changed the way I saw real-life police at all. Maybe not, but who knows, kids can be very impressionable.
My lego city cops were well armed. I gave them weapons from star wars, made some HMGs, one of my police heli had even rocket launchers. And I builded them a small tank
@@skynet3542 tonk
I always feel like people think too deeply but I know some people are ridiculously impressionable, I don't even know how those people get dressed in the morning
Good comment.
My lego police and robbers were loaded up with star wars weapons and such. I definitely played with them quite violently at times. But I'm still a very peaceful and not aggressive person and I'm against war and killing in real life. I think it's healthy for kids to express violence in play so that they can process and come to terms with and develop opinions about all the violence in the world and in history and so that those instincts don't get suppressed in an unhealthy way.😊
That's a very interesting comment!
It's a little known fact that lego even designed the osprey set to be able to fly exactly like the real vehicle, if you put it in vertical flight mode and let it go mid air, it crashed to the ground just like a real osprey
Does it also kill all of the marines on board too?
@sui1162 unfortunately they weren't that realistic, but the little pieces are checking hazards to real marines
@masterikej1 I've seen them eat worse and live. I doubt a Lego would do anything to them.
In fact, LEGO was thoughtful enough to include this incredibly realistic play feature into every LEGO set, as any structure or being falling from a large altitude will suffer physical damage, which LEGO has perfectly encapsulated in their droppable sets
@@masterikej1 Those are both absolutely horrible jokes that I laughed far too hard at. I think we could be great friends.
Lego: We will never add guns
Lego: B L A S T E R S
Lego: We will never add guns
ALSO* Lego: B L A S T E R S (this is what your suppose to say)
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@@raquelamorim2966try not to correct other people, it’s rude
@@frog_that_screams oh i didnt know :(
not a gun.
It looks like the "camera with side sight" was actually repurposed in the LEGO Star Wars sets as a heavy blaster
In the LEGO Indiana Jones videogame that piece was used as a bazooka
@@eneaceribelli8023 yep
My Boba Fett came with one many years ago.
in the old lego stars games there was a mirrored version used as a blaster
Which is poetic. Given a lightsaber has a camera item.
the osprey situation must have been confusing for the store that got it and started selling it
The cancelled Boieng also had a design flaw which made a gear piece snap when in play.
Just like the real deal.
Yeah massive failure for boyang
Kinda reminds me of Leonardo da Vinci's tank blueprints that had gears which, when actually built, would spin the wrong way and jam up, making his invention impossible to build as an actual weapon of war.
@@punbug4721I have to assume that was intentional by Da Vinci. Sabotaging anyone who wanted to use his genius for Warfare
@@SportyMabambaThe point was warfare
Didn't stop me as a kid, I remember solving the gunless problem in my LEGO City by building mechs that had chainguns and missile launcher systems for some policemen, safe to say, my LEGO City's crime rate was at an all time low.
i remember using the classic space "torches" as modern day guns
The children yearn for the firearms
@@burritocat6038 They crave violence.
They have gone from "no weapons of any kind" to "no sets that were created by military contractors".
Could that mean the lutty smg could show up in a set one day?
I mean, it's not a bad take if you ask me
@@comlitbeta7532 So does that mean I can't have a General Electric washing machine set?
@@Bubben246 ??? do you want a GE washing machine set?
@@PandaXs1yea, who wouldnt
“Camera with Side Sight”
You mean bazooka or heavy machine gun (depending on which way it’s facing)?
Or Boba Fetts weapon
Is that a camera with side sight in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
With a few more pieces it serves as a great base for a decently real looking western style anti tank.
One thing to note: While the V-22 Osprey doesn’t have any civilian variants, there is at least one civilian tilt rotor aircraft on the market, the Bell Helicopter/AgustaWestland AW609. It is essentially the exact opposite of the Osprey regards to its role, as it only comes in a civilian variant. So the use of fictional tilt rotors in civilian roles within the City line might not violate LEGO’s military equipment and weapons policy after all. Though a Technic set literally called the V-22 Osprey is kind of pushing things.
Ah yes, the V-22 Osprey…what a piece of crap that tilt rotor is. I prefer the B-29 and Corsair.
@AgentCelestia2 because those are at all comparable...
@@AgentCelestia2 You may not like it, but it certainly isn't a piece of crap
@@ravener96"Personally I think the B2 Spirit has a lot of problems. I like the P-51 Mustang more"
I believe a thing with the Technic Osprey was it also had a fatal design flaw that went un-noticed. In the end it was easier to just cancel it all together and state the reasoning solely as the military reason.
What was that flaw?
What fatal flaw was that?
If I recall correctly the turning mechanism of the rotor blades and the rotation of the engines worked on a single small technic gear, the one that fits in a 1×1 brick.
The teeth of the gear would bend and snap due to the forces applied and the stress caused, breaking the piece
The rotor blades were too sharp and it decapitated 13 children, killing 4 of them
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 I saw a headless guy just the other day. Should've asked if he was one of those kids.
The Toys That Made Us on Netflix said it perfectly when they said that Lego had to consider if Star Wars went against their philosophy, or make millions off Lego Star Wars sets. Definitely an easy decision 😅
Great video about Lego's very interesting history with weapons in sets 👍
And the extent to which they follow their policy (no modern military designs) just creates a lucrative market for third-party knock-offs. The only impact they're making is to hurt their bottom line.
@@ariochiv Not quite. Their decision still means that official lego sets, ie. the most popular lego-style toys, aren't actual military themed ones. Of course in different countries they do also have some knock-off lego toys (or rather, legally distinct but compatible brands) on shelves, some of which are military-themed, but the majority of them are not, because of lego's decision.
Lego: **Bans weapons**
Me: **Buys Chinese Knockoff Lego with Military theme**
The Polish "Lego", Cobi is good.
MOCs are usually better, I employ you to check them out. I have recommendations if you like
Hey that's me as well, I have Sembo Type 10 and Sluban Humvee, F-16, and UH-60 Black Hawk
also have Cobi (Polish brick) KV-1, P-51 Mustang, and M41 Bulldog
The Osprey set also had a crippling mechanical flaw due to its design and the placement of the clutch. You could destroy a trio of vulnerable 8 tooth gears very easily when running multiple functions simultaneously without the clutch engaging when one feature was hindered.
"Lego currently bans: "modern military" weapons and vehicles. Modern being defined as WW2 to Present Day"
WW1 weapons and weapons created before WW2 but used in it: -Hey, kids! Wanna play with m1911 pistol or Maxim machine gun?
Katanas produced during WW2: -It's not fair!
WW1 is probably on that list as well just because of how equally brutal and horrific it was but they do make katanas since those existed long before the world wars.
Jokes on them, I put cowboy set guns in my city minifigures' hands.
😭how did that city turn out
Amazing
@@Some_guy-on-the-internet better than the cesspools with gun control, that's for sure
"War should never be made to look like child's play"
Meanwhile Star Wars.
How old was Anakin when he was given a weapon again?
Around 10 fir the training savers a couple years later fir a real one
@@jmurray1110a weapon that can burn through most armors and is incredibly painful to be cut by. Fun for the whole family.
Half of star wars literally WW2 naval battle but in space
“Unless its rad as hell”
I feel like this rule or guidelines is something best decided intuitively and not with a hard rule. I work at a convenience store thats been held up at gun point. A set where a bandit steals gold from an old West Bank is separated enough from the modern day is almost feels like fantasy. Especially when the internal logic of stealing gold is so far away from a modern robbery. but making a set where a robber uses a realistic gun to hold up a store and then the police use realistic gun to shoot that guy, it just doesn't sit right. It feels too close to the real security camera footage I have watched of my own co workers having guns put in their faces.
Agree 100%. And I hope you and your coworkers are okay!
Yeah, the context of the set should be taken into consideration. If I had to decide on a hard rule, I'd go with 'anything older than 1900 is probably okay'.
Gold gets stolen all the time in the modern world as it's very untraceable, stealing money is a good way to get your ass in jail if anyone wrote down the serial number. I understand your point with seeing why humans can be cognitively dissident when it comes to older history than when it's newer history. Like how people are ok with violence in something like starship troopers but if you replaced the bugs with humans people would have an issue with it
@@smittzero8463I just don't understand the point of it, why exactly is violence ok just because it's older?
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg Because we're so far away from older violence, that it doesn't bother us when a knight cuts a head off but when terrorists do it. It's too real, because you can experience it happening in real time.
I'm perfectly happy to avoid official depictions of modern firearms and war machines / playsets from LEGO. If nothing else it leaves a pretty solid and reliable niche for third party companies, knowing LEGO will never compete with them with similar sets or accessories.
There are other things I question about the themes they release, but I guess it's hard to turn down popular multi-million dollar franchises.
💯% agree! It's good to see companies like Cobi in Poland doing well selling extremely accurate tanks, aircraft and ships.
@@kingofcapp and for a much better price than what lego would sell them for
Some of the 3rd party companies make really good military vehicles with parts that look like they're made out of the same plastic type that LEGO uses.
Definitely leaves room for the classical Brickarms! I used to binge watch stopmotions all the time that used them as a kid.
@@dontneedone990 Just if someone wants to have Lego mini figures military themed custom ones are extreme expensive
Even if Lego's avoiding it, there's still several other companies willing to make military sets. Cobi's one of the big ones with entire lines of military vehicles, planes, and boats from WWI to present day. I've got a few of their tanks plus one of their battleships, and they are solid sets overall.
If there's one consistently good thing about clone brands, it's the fact that they aren't bound by LEGO's philosophies on stuff like depicting weapons/military vehicles/etc, which makes them particularly great for any purposes where you want your minifigs to have firearms that aren't just tubes with handles, like recreating historical scenes or wargaming
@@specs.weedleAnd theyre also not overpriced pieces of plastic like Lego
I was really impressed with the Cobi tank my parents bought me one Christmas too.
It has sat on my shelf ever since
For Asia, Sluban is a great choice, they have become better now with their military sets and are considerably cheaper than Cobi, I have the Black Hawk, F-16, and the Humvee and I love them, I sometimes get some Lego parts to make them even better and totally convert my Humvee to Japanese Type 93 SAM launcher.
Also, have Sembo Japanese Type 10 MBT as well
If the limits are ww2-present does that mean that we could have german empire battle pack with accurate mauser g98 rifles?
Just give us a chemical warfare Lego set from WW1. Would truly be a classic.
@@g.williams2047 i mean Lego did put the custom auzwitz set in a museum
Seeing as WWI is allowed, they wouldn't mind me submitting a set with tanks and chemical warfare?
LEGO: WW1
1916
Chemical Warfare
(PTSD not included)
Surprisingly, every Indiana Jones movie before Kingdom of the Crystal Skull took place before 1939 which is when World War 2 started, so those sets don’t technically break their ban on modern weapons (weapons from World War 2 and after), but the sets they made of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull could be a different story since it took place in 1957.
9:26 technically Indiana Jones is Pre-WWII. It's the 1930s. Even The Last Crusade was based in 1937 almost two years before WWII.
354 (the first police set) is today's Random Set over on Brickset. That's... a weird coincidence.
Left out the Jonny Thunder sets, LEGO's attempt at a license free version of Indiana Jones.
While technically adventure fantasy they did bring in more realistic post WW1 firearms in those sets blurring the line approaching WW2.
Johnny Thunder was a brilliant range; almost makes me regret that they got the Indiana Jones licence.
The fact that police sets resembles no weapons but proceeds to animate the criminals Attacking with Dynamites ☠️☠️☠️☠️....
Not fair at all
@southernbel7686 What's even worse is that they let the kids rp as a criminal attacking the police with dynamites...
I'm shocked you didn't mention the Marvel superhero line where Punisher has been brought in... I'm mentioning the Daily Bugle set where he is dual wielding what are supposed to be firearms since... He's the Punisher
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LEGO actually made an earlier version of the Sopwith Camel: set no. 3451, released in 2001, I own it as well as the Baron. I actually didn't know there was a 2012 re-release until this video!
I had 3451 as a kid and my cousin had the Baron. I didn’t know about the re-release, either.
I own all three of them. Really was obsessed with them about 10 years ago as well as the wright flyer. The newer sopwith camel is quite cool because the control stick actually moves the parts of the wings through wires
I always thought the "camera with sidesight" was a bazooka lmao
Maybe it was the Indiana Jones Lego games lol
Same lmao
The only way I could see LEGO releasing an official Osprey is if it was under the Transformers license and based on the bayverse movies
Like Megatron
Bayverse Springer is too obscure character to make a Lego set of him.
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I was thinking more like one that NEST uses
@@benthecat4345 I don't remember any Osprey bot that NEST used in movies...
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🤦♂️ That's because NEST uses actual ospreys, I was thinking that it would be an osprey with Lennox, some NEST soldiers, an autobot, and maybe a decepticon as well
I swear I remember there being something like a Taser in one of the Lego City sets. I remember seeing something shaped like a firearm, but painted a non metallic red color. Maybe it was meant to represent a flare gun though.
Yes there was a flare gun in some of the city sets.
I've always been cool with Lego's choice to avoid modern weapons and vehicles. And honestly if they did allow that stuff, it would cause a serious shift in what fans wanted. Many of us are happy as things are but there are those who would love to see stuff like shown at 10:37 as real sets. The thing is if you open that Pandora's Box then I'm sure fans would start clamoring for Call of Duty and whatever other FPS games with overly elaborate gun loading animations are popular. That would really change the whole landscape and not in a good way. Lego is charming for its innocence as it's presented. Those custom parts are fine too. It's not official Lego so it's always isolated to whoever gets it.
I just dislike how inconsistent they are about it like you have sets like IJ line which features literal WW2 German soldiers and James Bond with his Aston martin, that's straight up just military cause the MI in MI6 stands for Military intelligence. I feel like I'd have more respect for the rule if they were consistent about.
Lego already makes guns, cannons, blunderbus/muskets, revolvers, and rifles. There’s no reason that making other types of guns would ‘change the landscape of Lego” in any meaningful way, good or bad. It would simply give the Customer more options for creativity.
I mean a doom set would be cool
It does gif the criteria since the new games are very sci-fi
I don't know, I fully understand end respect Lego's no modern weapons policy, but I would really love if they had ww2 and ww1 sets (beyond the 2 ww1 plains). Image lego panzers with custom minifigers or a lego Yamato or USS Missouri in the same size the giant impirial star destroyer
Also reminds of the Lego City police Shinook helicopter.
I had a friend who got the set for his birthday and immediately we turned it into an army chopper which guns down terrorists as he also had lots of brickarms weapons.
An interesting detail that was once pointed out to me about LEGO Star Wars box art is that characters holding blasters can’t be shown shooting directly at another character, the angle has to at least be slightly off.
Thats... Actually pretty smart ngl
That’s a lot of plot armour
To be fair at least it would be accurate for the stormtroopers because it’s not like they’re hitting anything
Wow, I knew about legos darker history and days of wooden toys by this is new. Thanks for the info!
In the 70s, all the legos I had were just standard bricks, what I made most was all war items like planes, tanks, battle ships, space ship fighters, all sorts of things for war. Boys will be boys!
Heh, same. we even made functional crossbows out of LEGO and some rubber bands, shooting 2x4s at each other, making actual weapons out of LEGO. It's a small wonder none of us lost an eye...
After the army men sets from toy story i built lots of tanks for them
“Lego makes some weird decisions”. It’s also a weird decision to repeatedly run a po-faced war video game promotion in the middle of a documentary about the history of Lego trying to avoid war toys.
I wonder how deliberately ironic that was. UA-camrs take these ads because (like Lego and Star Wars) they can't afford not to, but it's obvious that they don't like them.
I wonder how deliberately ironic that was. UA-camrs take these ads because (like Lego and Star Wars) they can't afford not to, but they obviously don't like them.
I just think it is on the nose
The UA-camr never said he doesn't like war video games
Why?
Lego needs to re-release the Wild West theme.
Too controversial these days
@@aneasteregg8171 No, it’s fun. Historically set pieces should not be controversial.
@@TheSuperPsychoKiller remember how today's society works, if lego does that they will be cancelled 🤣
They kinda tried with the Lone Ranger releases, which ironically sported the most realistic Lego firearms ever put in sets.
Great job explaining why LEGO crosses their own line when it comes to LEGO military. Ole Kirk Christiansen would not approve of what LEGO has become today... well at least with it's morals surrounding this topic. But money talks as they say.
I’m sure he VERY would be disappointed or upset on how desensitized we all are to war and violence, but I think he would be happy that the Boeing set was pulled as soon as it’s real version became in use of the us military for not what it was made to do (search and rescue). I doubt he would be fond of the other ones due to it using the fantasy or historical perspective, since it’s still technically violence
I think nearly everyone from 100 years ago would be very disappointed with their modern multibillion dollar company
@@legoben98productions can you even name ten wars since WWII? I probably couldn't without looking it up
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg I can name like at least 4; the Vietnam war, the Iran war, the Cold War, Russia vs Ukraine, the Iraqi war
Maybe, but in the adapt-or-die world of business, I think be might grudgingly accept the necessity.
I remember the original Lego Batman and Indiana Jones came with guns for the villains and such. They were revolvers and Tommy guns and even the pirates came with muskets and pistols.
Another interesting thing is that last year we got a Robert Muldoon Figure from Jurassic Park as part of the 30th anniversary set. He has a gun.. that shoots traquiliser darts
Shame LEGO didn't make a SPAS-12 piece for him, lmao.
@@stevenbobbybills or even a generic shotgun piece not based off of any particular design, I would have settled for that too
@@DrNitro nah, it's gotta have stock-unfolding functionality. Vital part of the scene.
A minor technicality about the Indiana Jones sets. The first three Indiana Jones movies take place in the late 30’s (Raiders is set in 1936). Germany did not invade Poland and thereby start WWII until 1939, so the Indy sets, in addition to being license property and fantasy, have a third layer of protection.
There is ONE instance I can think of where any City Minifigure was given a gun.
It's an interesting topic to debate. Lego doesn't allow realistic military weapons or builds that reflect real life military hardware, yet lots of builds are based on or entirely lifting designs from militaristic blueprints. There's the one fighter jet build that's red white and blue and the sets mentioned in this video. Not to mention whole lines like Mars Mission, og Lego Agents, Exo Force, and Bionicle as a whole. Giving militaristic and/or sci-fi fantasy designs bright vibrant colors and slightly changing the shape of a few parts here and there often times results in a kid-friendly product for most companies, as far as I observe.
An argument could be made that because Lego is catering pretty hard to adult builders/collectors lately, they should separate their products into adult and kids' branches. Adults can get the more realistic side of Lego; insane part counts, collector value, book length instructions, and mature subject matter like war or historical accuracy, while kids get the bright and whimsical side; simple builds, tiny paper instructions, small to moderate part count, bright vibrant colors, and wacky zany fun and adventure. I'm not saying that kids and adults should be separated from lines like City or Ninjago or the many licensed lines. What I'm saying is adults should be able to have more realistic and complex builds that complement their proclivities and interests and challenge the mental side of building, while kids should have something that challenges their imagination yet doesn't glorify conflict or inspire ideas of "this robber has a gun, let's make him shoot the cops like I saw on the news." Many argue that's what Lego's already doing with the UCS lines and the many architecture and historical builds, but it would be really cool to see an official branching off point where adults have the freedom to put together an accurate historical event like D-Day for example, while kids get more Mixels or something like that.
IIRC the makers of Bionicle have actually mentioned in interviews that LEGO originally opposed the characters having weapons at first. To get weapons into the theme, they were rebranded as "Toa Tools", and were supposed to have as much of a focus on non-combat actions like climbing and swimming as combat. Even the developers of the Mata Nui Online Game were restricted in showing combat, and were specifically mandated to not show characters striking each other.
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plastic army men toys: bro
I would of loved if LEGO had the license to make a 1980's G.I. Joe line. Although the show was based on the military, it was also what you would consider "fantasy". LEGO is missing out on making so many sets based on 1980's toys, cartoons and shows.
You make a good point yet even if cobra is fictional the idea is still there
7:00 jokes on Lego, lightsabers exist now
Some sort of zombie/apocalypse theme with modern weapons in a "fantasy" setting would fly off the shelves
That would be awesome. Would be fun to create a zombie apocalypse in my lego city
Brickarms is your friend
So if Lego can't produce sets featuring military vehicles from WW2 and later....
Get your torpedos and turrets ready, boys.
*It's dreadnought time*
i love when spitbrix posts
The rescue Osprey set being pulled was probably a smart choice considering the real Osprey is known for killing it's own passengers and pilots more than saving anyone.
That Lego camera piece is great because it's easy to customise depending on the setting. It's easily recognisable as a large video camera or CCTV camera in a modern city but it also works as a futuristic rocket launcher or scanning device in a space theme.
Not surprising that Lego is more willing to bend its morals when licenced themes are involved... Although there's one City set in which a police officer has a gun. Lego claimed it was a baton but that guy with the body armour and aviator sunglasses was definitely dressed to blast some bad guys (or shoot out their tyres, at least) A T-bar would have worked better as a tonfa. I wish the dynamite factory set came out. That could have had some fun play features. Hopefully instructions get leaked if they're not available already.
I had some 5-6 years when I got my first lego sets (one of which was a space minifig pack ) that had one of those "space gun" / camera pieces. My furst take on it, withoiut anybody telling me, was that it was a bazooka (it was shoulder mounted and had a crosshairs to see where you shoot it). I think children have way more imagination than they ever thought. Those 1x2 plates as guns in the cowboys set would have been enough for kids to understand.
lego space gun/camera was regularly used as a camera in the 80s an 90s cos thats how big video cameras were, i remember having one that came with a 2x1 cassette piece, also Denmark is not America, guns are not as common in the rest of the civilized world.
This is a slight misconception about America. The US has way more gun violence, and way more literal guns, but both are because average gun ownership is skewed by a small population that owns a lot of guns. Your random everyday American hasn't ever held a handgun, and most haven't even seen one in person before (except in the holster of a cop, also a problem). The US's cultural relationship with guns (where we like to see them and where we don't) is in many ways the same as it is in the rest of the "civilized world."
@Mark_LaCroix plus America has the whole "Second Amendment" thing which has had 200+ years of cultural influence regarding private ownership and use of firearms. If you could magically alter physics so that guns, cannons, missiles etc were globally now impossible to use anymore, Americans would get just as big into swords, spears and trebuchets.
Bold of you to include the US in "civilized world"
@@JonCrs10 They already are, they make up for a lot of HEMA communities, and sword/medieval weaponry collectors. Also they're big on their knives as well.
@Mark_LaCroix I think you underestimate how casual gun ownership is in the US. Over the last decade gun purchases and ownership has ballooned upwards of 60%, with largest percentage being women.
Along party lines Republicans are largely the same, but Democrats have slowly been inching up from 36% in 1999 to roughly 53% as of 2022.
Most Americans do have a passing knowledge and first-hand experience with a gun. How vocal they are about it is a very different matter.
You're right in that public regard to guns is changing. Chances are most of your neighbors have a gun, but they're much less likely to bring it up or flaunt it.
Here in California, a very heavily restricted state, well over 70% of the population owns a fire arm of some kind.
So what actually happens to all those sets which have been shipped but recalled. Does it go to landfill or do they tediously open every box, separate the pieces and put them back in inventory or simply give the parts away?
What about set #31039? It has something that bears a lot of resemblance to the F-35, a modern VTOL fighter jet. It is a 3 in 1 set but that is the main image on the set’s box.
The set’s name is “blue power jet building kit” if anyone is curious.
The first 3 Indiana Jones movies are set before WW2 in the late 1930's, the 4th film is set in 1957 and Indiana Jones 5 is set in 1969, so Lego technically didn't make WW2 sets. They managed to find a loophole
5:18 That's definitely a video camera; looks exactly like a video camera.
Edit: ok you did bring up Indy... nvm
"Rather than accurate depictions of real life weaponry and military style vehicles" do we need to bring up the Indiana Jones line with it's pistols, and WWII era prop planes that may or may not have been used by a specific German faction? ("Fighter plane chase" 77012, released 2023)
This was covered in the video.
@@froggore52 yea i noticed that and then put a little 'edit: you did bring it up" thing at the to of my comment. could have deleted the comment entirely but decided not to.
Disclaimer:
Since science fiction is fiction set in the future, historical fiction exists in the past. I noticed if the IPs are set during a time period (medieval, vietnam, wild west, etc.) then the aesthetics creates the ideas for the weapons and vehicles of the era. Imagine a knight without a horse and sword. Rather than building blatant machines of war.
Indiana Jones movies took place below 1939 but not in 39 also the 4th movie took place when WW2 ended
I respect their policy not just in compromises but their willingness to revisit each issue as time marches on. I remember Will Arnett talking about The Lego Movie and how much more violent it would be regarded later if we ever invent real laser guns.😄
"embrace weapons in fantasy uniiverces" more like "gimme the money this franchise brings, if it aint modern its good enough" by the by you can make a weapon and brick built guns if you want more firepower, lego is about building so you can make Panzer 3 in desert camo, italian and polish tanks where this yellowish color, americans had these brownish tanks, yeah you cant make a russian vehicle or a grey german one but still, if people want war they will turn to mega blocks call of duty and halo, and to be honest i absolutely love their sets, lego compatible too and thats from personal experience, for example outfit a lego ship hull with mega blocks style weaponry and you have an amazing piece of equitment.
It is worth mentioning, than Lego isn't the only company with a policy like this. In fact many companies which already existed during the war later implemented a ban on modern weapons.
Just a quick note from a napoleonic geek: those pirate guns are not rifles, they are muskets. Yes, there’s a difference. And the plural of cannon is still cannon.
The plural of cannon is cannons in American English.
@@FirstDagger That is only correct in a modern context
So it's canon to say cannon?
@@kaasmeester5903 It is indeed canon to say cannon :)
SpitBrix: tells why the founder of lego doesn't like war and weapons
Also SpitBrix: this video is sponsored by this WW2 themed video game!
Finally someone out here talking about the toy story army men, Any one else use to change the head and arms to make minifig soldiers?
This policy blocked the SR71 blackbird idea. And is the main reason Mega blocks exists.
I am thankful with how Lego takes this topic and uses weapons in creative ways instead of violent ones.
Did you watch the video
I remember buying a few of those Toy Story sets when I was younger, then mixing and matching them with different heads/hands and giving them star wars blasters so that I could have actual LEGO army guys. It was fun.
The Indiana Jones films are based in the 1930s period of history and are therefore prior to World War 2 which began in 1939.
Great video, completely missed out on talking about Dino Attack though, that was as close to military equipment Lego had ever gotten. Great video none the less
POV: Lego doesn't add green colour bricks into their Lego sets so kids can't make military things to potentially give people anxiety about the Vietnam war at the time. Years later: Lego adds Vietnam war soldiers into Lego Toy Story.
I'm pretty sure there was a two-seater delta wing fighter jet set, granted it was painted in white and red, had no insignia and it's only had 2 missiles which could've been just landing gear lights.
And along came Brickator 3:44 😵
Good video. But it's no trouble for me because there's Brickarms, Battlebrick, etc. that make better weapons than LEGO could ever hope to.
And all are Lego compatible.
funny story, so in my school during inside recess we can do legos and I just time after time found guns, knives, cursed parts, etc.
I also found a replica of a irl bazooka somehow💀
10:12 why did he have a skinny mustache?💀☠️
Adolf hitler
I’d venture the guess that it’s for the same reason as a lot of people alive at that time. A bad experience between a long mustache and a gas mask.
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In the case of the osprey; numerous countries were lined up to take civil models for use in search and rescue. A combination of cost, reliability and maintenance issues caused them all to hold off or entirely cancel. The osprey is at the end of the day an unarmed transport; all that separates a civil and military version is paint job and what it's transporting.
Lego: "war should never be made to look like child's play"
Literally every AAA game developer: "We're gonna ignore that"
I had so many of the "Army men on patrol" like I had a whole ass fleet of green jeeps and a formative army of the figures. It had to be over at least 25. I think I still have an unopened one somewhere.
Clone armies and medieval armies got nothing on this guy's green army. XD
I find the reason policy in itself admirable, however, people should not be too sensitive. In Germany for example, a country with very low gun violence, one of the most popular toy producers, Playmobil, regulary sells police sets with guns and it doesnt seem to have any major negative impact on the kids.
Yea... I guess it's education and parenting around such toys that make or brake kids. Of course kids reenact fighting. Either with figurines, toy weapons to wield oneself or in such basic ways as fencing with sticks. Fencing with sticks or other stick-like objects seems to be a rather instinctual part of childplay... Whatever parents (or adult role models in their lives) teach them about the world and on proper behavior, laws, rights and duties is the actually important stuff. Thats were kids are truly set up for who they will become...
Fun fact: If you downloaded the app Lego Builder to see if the instructions for the Osprey were on there, you would smash your head into the wall IT IS NOT ON THERE PLEASE I WANT TO BUILD IT I LOVE THE AIRCRAFT
Man, I kinda want that Osprey set now...
I actually remember one of the lego city sets to have a revolver looking piece for the robber
I love how lego tries to be kid friendly across all themes, and then there's bionicle characters like Pridak and Krika with red marks on their mouth and/or limbs 😂
I had a design that I was going to submit to Lego Ideas until I learned about this rule surrounding Lego, as a Sailor of 6 years, I spent time on a few ships, and I was inspired to start making up an Aircraft Carrier design with mini planes, I got a few of the planes done, but then I found out about this, and I kinda just dropped it, never got around to finishing it.
You should finish it for yourself.
I want to, but I need time, and I need to see if I can even use the OG digital designer files on their most recent software. @@NCC1371
And upload it on MOCpages or something for the rest of us.
0:29 so it's British
Yes bruv
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Strangely the lego speed champions James Bond Aston Martin DB5 has no guns on James Bond but a gun as the exhaust pipe!
100% the design sneaking a gun for Bond as something technically not "meant to be" a firearm
@@MGavin lol
I laughed at the comment about the astronomical crime rate, you're not wrong!
Though to be fair it's never violent crime.
"A man is getting mugged in Lego city!"
>beat as mugger and victim look for the alley<
"HEY!"
"You can BUILD a man getting mugged in Lego city!"
Lego: War sets aren't allowed! Modern military stuff is BANNED!
Also Lego: Here's a whole Star ¨WARS" theme. Hey let's have Indiana Jones get chased by literal nazi minifigures. Here's a nazi plane chasing Indiana Jones, fully recreated and in detail. Here's Bane's Tumbler car with military colors. Oh don't forget the literal green soldiers with green guns and a green jeep. Here's a military Osprey Technic set that we'll remove from sale but then have it on sale again. Why not take a Red Skull minifigure wearing a black nazi uniform while you're at it. Oh and remember when the Death Star genocided an entire planet? Well you'll be SURPRISED at what we got in store for ya...
I get it, but it'd be cool to see some tanks, jets, and other vehicles used in military situations made out of lego. Especially that canceled osprey😍
I was a kid in the late 90s/early 2000s and I can remember my parents always trying to keep war-themed games/movies/toys away from me no matter how much I was into that stuff, since they are very pacifist.
But growing up during that time, I also remember seeing a abrams tank, hummvees and soldiers doing door-to-door raids in the news every evening.
I ended up joining the military as an adult, so I could finally enjoy all that stuff and I still do.
So I learned that no matter how hard you close your eyes, the reality stays reality and if someone is born with war in his mind, no parenting in the world can change that😂
But you had the vehicles and stuff in mind not the war, right?
@@wladynoszhighlights5989 ehehehe... sure😅
@@limol5375- "sure" 😂😂😂😂
Out of curiosity, was your parents reaction anything like _"Dang it! And you see? We attempted to keep you AWAY from all of that, yet, nature defeated nurture with you."_ ?
Reminds me of a kid i knew when i was a child, his parents didnt even let him be in a snowball fight, calling it too violent, as well as the numerous times the parents tried policing us on that, kid got attacked by a feral dog and didnt know how to fight it off, last i remember his parents stopped with thier bs after that, but he was a mess, probably needed facial reconstruction after bc he kept wearing a mask all the time after
So if Lego defines "modern conflict" as realistic WWII-present, that means a WWI theme complete with artillery and mustard gas is potentially on the table. Right, LEGO? I really want that "Trench Sweeper" set! 😤
Very coincidental mustache and hair style, especially after WW2 🤨 1:39