Flight JL-516 Crash at Tokyo | JAL Airbus 350 | First Look by the Airline Pilot | エアクラッシュ
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- A JAL Japan Airlines Airbus A350-900, registration JA13XJ performing flight JL-516 from Sapporo to Tokyo Haneda (Japan) with 367 passengers and 12 crew, landed on Haneda's runway 34R at 17:47L (08:47Z) in night time conditions but collided with a Japanese Coast Guard Dash 8-300 registration JA722A (Coast Guard code MA722) on the runway shortly after touchdown and burst into flames. The A350 came to a stop off the right hand edge of the runway about 1680 meters/5510 feet down the runway and was evacuated. All occupants were able to evacuate. The other aircraft carrying 6 people also burst into flames, 5 of the six occupants are confirmed dead. Both aircraft burned down. 14 occupants of the A359 received injuries, the captain of the Dash 8 received serious injuries.
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The relative "calm" shown by the japanese people in the videos under the circumstances is impressive
They were screaming what you mean
@@Hay8137gthat’s mostly by the attendants, yelling the instructions because the intercom was not functioning already. I could hear a child’s loud voice and kids’ crying, but considering there were nearly 400 people, they were relatively calm
@@Hay8137gpeople have died because people were climbing over seats and taking their luggage.
The flight attendants were saying to stay seated since it was unconfirmed if the outside was safe.
Passengers saying "please hurry" and staying seated while walls of fire bloomed outside is crazy
The firefighter response time is crazy and the fact that they got all 379 people off the plane in 96 seconds shows Japan airlines takes care in their safety regulations
That’s over the limit of 90 seconds. It’s not that impressive evacuation. It is better than some others though.
Edit: Those of you saying that only 3 slides being used, you're right and it is impressive with that taken into account
A lot of the speed is also the Japanese people themselves. I have flown JAL a lot, and the Japanese are very polite and efficient. None are overweight. I can imagine if this happenned in the west, the corridoors would be blocked by panicking whales.
@@0w3nnfor a real situation, its impressive.
It is within regulation, because they could only use 3 evacuation slides.
The requirement is 90 seconds if you use 50% (4 of 8) escape slides.
Where do you get the 96 seconds from, btw? I have not seen any videos that show the event from the start until end.
@@torben777idk which video it was but it was a news report about the crash saying something along the lines of " miraculously, all 379 passengers got off the plane safely in 96 seconds "
The JAL captain even checked the back of the plane, which was in flames, before ejecting, and succeeded in finding and ejecting the passengers who had failed to escape. I would like to pay tribute to the captain, who fulfilled his duty without regard for the danger he was putting himself in.
It’s amazing how all passengers on the A350 survived, it shows the skills of the pilot, the firefighters, and cabin crew. RIP to the 5 people who died on the Coast Guard Plane.
Скорее, мастерство стюардесс и спасательных служб и дисциплина пассажиров
skills????? hahaha r u dumb? that was physics! there was no skills involved ....in fact the pilot is under investigations and will most likely get the sack
Skills of the flight attendants, and excellent compliance by the passengers.
The credit goes to the cabin crew for conducting the evacuation professionally and quickly.
I’m sure the pilots are good professionals, but they didn’t do anything unusual, they unexpectedly ran over another airplane that they couldn’t see, continued to brake, probably gave the command to evacuate, and assisted with it.
The fire services appeared to react very slowly. Watching the live feed on local tv many minutes went by before they showed up with too little foam and some say applied it incorrectly. The final reports will say if this was the case or not.
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My heart goes out to the Japanese people. They have had enough the last couple days. Prayers from California....
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Thank you pilot for this comprehensive breakdown. Rest in peace those poor souls on the coast guard plane.
Daily RIP for the 150,000 people that dies every day in the world, oh those poor souls
@@LilyWhite-vo1bh youre so funny, haha…
It is very impressive how well that Airbus was designed and built that allowed all of those passengers time and a way to escape.
its not the plane it was the passenger and flight attendant awesomenes.
1. japanase are mostly slim build
2. they are calm and obey
3. no one getting their luggage
4. no fat karen blocking your way
5. well expreince flight crew
The A350 has the same amount of exits as many other planes, as billy said, it was more due to the sensible behaviour of the Japanese people and the great crew.
It is a certification requirement that a completely full aircraft must be able to be evacuated in 90 seconds or less *with half of the slides unavailable* . Not any particular half, either. Here, they only had THREE of EIGHT because the right engine was not/could not be shut down. You can see it still running in some of the footage. They only had the two frontmost slides and the rearmost slide on the left side, as the right rear was covered by flames and jet blast from the damaged, still-running engine. The middle 4 slides were not used.
They did better than expected by the rules. Amazing job by the flight attendants to keep the passengers from getting hurt from the dangers on the ground around the aircraft.
@@Planetrainguy It also took a good 15-20 minutes for the fire to really start taking hold of the fuselage after the A350 came to rest. And that's after the A350 had been covered in fuel from smashing into the wings of the Dash 8, which is what caused the fireball on impact. Compare that with some aluminum hulls we've seen go up in 2-3 minutes in bad crashes before. So yes, it is also down to how well the A350 was built that gave the passengers enough time to escape safely.
@@KairiPrime that is correct, but isn't a feature specific to the A350 as the 787 shares that too, but you're still right
Is anybody going to talk about how much effort he put in this video. You earned my sub❤❤
Dennis always produces good videos on both of his UA-cam channels. Thanks Dennis.
As usual, and excellent report Denys. While the loss of 5 people on the Dash-8 is tragic, the survival of all those on board the Airbus is a testament to many things and people. The design of the aircraft, the lightning and correct responses of the flight deck and cabin crew, and also the passengers themselves. And last but not least, those firefighters. Considering the death toll could have been nearly four hundred [or more if folks on the ground had been in the way], casualties were very light.
The death of most of the coast guard crew is a little hard to take-they were on a mission to save lives from the earthquake.
The FA's are most definitely to be commended or their actions! It is the most important function/duty of an FA to evacuate an AC in a safe nd timely manner, regardless of whether one of the pilots directs them to do so. As you said, Denys, they should act to evacuate the cabin if there is a clear sign of fire. And, of course, they would not begin the evacuation procedures until the AC has come to a full and complete stop. Once the AC does come to a full and complete stop, the cabin crew (FA's) are to assess conditions outside the doors they are responsible for and either begin evacuation commands one they open the door and inflate the emergency slides. Once that is done they should immediately begin shooting something to the effect of "Come this way! Stay low!" If they assess that their exit is block for some reason then they are to shout, "Exit Blocked!" and direct passengers to the nearest usable exit. This is what FA's train for every year when they get their FA Certificate recertified. So, though this was an unexpected evacuation upon landing, and the cabin was not specifically prepared for evacuation, the standard operating procedures associated with preparing the cabin for landing saved their lives and the quick and appropriate actions FAs are trained to carry out made sure as many people were safely evacuated. By the way, of course, the pilots are to be commended for keep the plane under control while landing!
On an additional note, it is very gratifying to know that the training of both the pilots and the FAs paid off so well in this situation:)! It is good to know for all our sakes that the training DOES work and DOES help save lives:)!
Lee, former FA of 10 years
Have you ever been involved in an evacuation?
Well said! From a current FA of 42 years!
No, but I have had to prepare the cabin for an emergency landing. Fortunately, we landed safely and did not have to evacuate the AC.@@NYBrandywineTree
lol Well, then you definitely know the drill and why FAs have to go back for Recurrent Training once a year:).@@ridinhigh6037
I love the airbus. My favorite plane to fly. Kudos to the flight attendants and the flight crew. Incredible professionalism.
No it took 8 minutes till the last passenger’s evacuation, and it starts from the time of collision @5:47. That means the aircraft skidded for 1 km, stopped, the attendants surveyed the surroundings to decide which exits were safe enough, the passengers started exiting through the slides (only 2 of 8 could be used), and all passengers were on the ground by 5:55.
Not 8 minutes BEFORE the evacuation started.
Thanks for another great report, Denys!
RIP to those on the coast guard plane.
Thank you Dennis, my family was onboard, my daughter, my wife and myself returned from my NY holidays spent outside of Japan. All crew team is too brave and very professional indeed. Thanks God, no fatalities, only a handful of minor injuries.
Your imaginary old man in the sky caused it in the first place
Amazing that they were able to evacuate! It almost seems impossible for 379 people could get out with a fire like this. And thank you, Denys, for updating us - on top of all your work on Ukraine! You are a class act.
As a Republican and proud NRA member, I must remind everyone who finds themselves in this position to be sure to get your overhead luggage prior to letting anyone pass you.
The above comment….😅
Wow the first crash of the year 2024 A350-900 wow I don't know how 379 souls survived the crash but rest and peace to those poor 5 souls on Dash-8 can't beilive this happened two days in 2024 New year but we learn from this type of crashes and prevent them from happening again.
Accidents in aviation and professional analysis, as well as honestly admitting mistakes (you have to learn that first) and speaking freely about them, have made aviation so safe that today we see every accident as a sensation.
This accident will also increase safety and save lives! Unfortunately, this time we had to pay for the new knowledge with four human lives.
The lessons learned from decades of tragedy designed into modern aircraft and the procedures used to evacuate have saved so many lives in cases like this.
@Pilot Blog, I haven’t watched you in a while but your English has improved a lot. Well done.
It was reported in Japanese media that the JAL 516 flight received clearence to land from the ATC, and the pilots echoed the clearance back to ATC. The Dash 8 was instructed to hold behind the runway, but entered the runway accidentally.
So there was still an error
We will see what exactly happened, for the time being we only know that two different communication channels were used. The time stamps what was said when and confirmed on both channels will be very important to fully understand the whole situation. But even that might not be the whole picture.
The D8 was standing for some time. What was the reason, did ATC expect the Coast Guard plane to be gone already? And that's just the first question coming to mind.
From ATC transcript released by Japan ministry of transport
D8 was instructed to taxi to holding point C5 and they read back the instructions. No further clearance was given so D8 should stop there (C5). An aircraft can't enter a runway even to just crossing to another taxiway without clearance
Thankyou for explaining this so clearly. I understand more of how this could have happened now due to your explanation. Other YT clips haven't covered this as well as you have done.
Thank you, Denys, for this comprehensive update to this tragic accident. Amazing that all passengers and crew of the A350 were evacuated successfully. RIP to the 5 Coast Guard Dash 8 occupants.
Thanks Denys. First clear view of escaping passengers. I've been searching for these shots. They didn't appear to be as fast as I expected.
Thank you very much for picking this horrible accident up! It´s indeed a kind of a miracle that all people on board of the A 350 survived - and there´re indeed a lot of questions open and to be answered why this could happen.
Excellent report Denys!
man dennis Ive been waiting for your take on this! ill make me a coffee and watch! thank you for your effort. thank god it didnt end up in a total disaster
DENYS!!!!! So appreciated your day and night updates 👍👍❤!!!!!! Xx.........
Denys thank you for great update. 🙏🙏🙏Rest in peace for those 5 employees on coast guard airplane. They are there to provide aid to those in earthquake area but sacrifices their life. Sad😢😢😢
Thank you Denys for this super video. This time you beat the other two big flight channels, Blancolirio and Mentor. I am very impressed by your super proffessional analysis. For example your extremely important comment that the tower used two separate frequencies, meaning that these two airplanes might not even heard each other, which otherwise could have made the Airbus to go around.
He did a good job, especially for this not being his usual aviation beat, but being first is not important. Getting correct information out and especially NOT putting out wrong information is best.
Mentor pilot does not make these kind of current news videos. He will make an excellent video later, when everything can be known.
And thanks for the tip about the Blancolirio channel (which I noticed now, had posted a video about this same topic one hour earlier than this video (21 hours ago vs 20 hours ago for this video, as I post this message), not that is matters, but I am correcting your claim since I noticed it was not correct).
The A350 passengers and crew were extremely lucky, tragedy the Dash crew didn't stand much of a chance. :/
I was told something many years ago when I first started flying about the importance of paying attention and following rules, 'too often the price for breaking the rules is death.'
Always stuck with me how true that can be.
Thanks for the commentary.
I always watch Ukrainian channels.
From Japan.
Nice objective coverage. Thanks!
Great explanation!
Very interesting,Thanks Denys.
Australia/ Thanks Denys for that update. I am one of your subscribers/supporters on your Ukraine chan, but also enjoy your work in your professional field.
Calm, cool and collected. This could have been so much worse. The passengers, crew and airport personnel should really be commended on how they handled this very very rare event.
Like water off a duck's back
Excellent report, Denys. The crew of the JAL plane did an outstanding job getting everyone, including 11 children under age 3, off that plane. The Japanese people are also to be congratulated. They know all too well about emergencies and act like adults when something happens. They follow safety rules and regulations probably more than in any other country on Earth because they KNOW that doing it right saves lives and ignoring them causes unnecessary injuries and death. In my country, USA, we have too many who openly hate safety regulations, and openly ignore them. (Bet you can guess which political party they support, too, but that's for a different discussion) Do you think one single person on the JAL plane is angry because regulations made the cost of manufacturing those planes a bit more expensive?
You opened a lil can of expired sardines : )
Can't imagine if similarly happened in US. Think, a more unfortunate different outcome. Those 'immi_rants' from the border those flown to different cities, with babies, young children, different languages; communicating to those in languages for evac., ppl, kids freaking out, chaos. Not Good scene beyond the said 96 sec. safety margin.
I read one comment by the Republican and a proud NRA member that urges fellow Americans to secure their own luggage from the upper storage before getting told to leave all of them. So maybe diversity is not the only problem in the USA ….
Good job Denis you're the best
Thanks Denys.
Excellent Review
Great reporting Pilot Blog, although sad times all round.
Yes Denis I also think the 2 different tower frequencies contributed to this accident, because pilots obviously are listening to the active channel during the approach and
would have been aware of the Dash-8. The landing lights on an A359 are quite bright, how could they have not seen them. After all that was a very lucky outcome and the
cabin crew did a great job in getting all the pax out in a very short time. Stay save, Carl
Thx for let us knowing more details
he's back!
Bless those ppl having gone through that.
RIP who perished.
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ATC Transcript: Coastguard aircraft was told to "taxi to holding point C5". (The Captain had told investigators he had been given permission to enter the runway.)
*EDIT* Source: BBC News. Not sure how the Captain was able to talk with investigators if he was medically in a critical state.
The pilot of the coast guard seems to lost unaware his position and his plane were rear ended , from the video there is no strobes light on
I haven’t even seen this anywhere yet. Wouldn’t have known this had happened if I didn’t see this. Rest in peace those that passed.
Looking forward to your analysis once they release the cockpit recordings. I am looking forward to the day I no longer have to see your war updates. Bless you and your brave nation.
Not panicking and following instructions can save lives❤ new subscriber sir always watching your videos😊
There was a Stop Bar Light in C5, signal for entry to the runway34R, but according to RJTT NOTAM, it has been out of service for inspection since 12/27/2023...
This take a big role in the accident. The Dash 8 pilot reported that the stop bar lights was green
Didn't know you have this channel until yt recommended me
Honestly it still boggles my mind how inefficient these manual radio communications are. All of this can and should be automated by now. These aircraft can even Autoland now. But somehow they rely on analog radio communication to manage traffic. It's a miracle more people didn't die.
Hi Denys. I saw the ATC transcript and JA722A was told to taxi to the C-5 hold point, and the pilot read back the instructions! It was never given clearance to go on to the runway, but it went on the runway anyways. JA13XJ was given clearance to land.
Your comment at the end of the CG Pilot not checking for aircraft on final is spot on.
It was dark and there was many lights everywhere
Denys, thank you for an excellent Report ! Detailed analysis that out does any Reports here in Australia ,perhaps you could find an opportunity with the News Channels ? It is impressive how the Flight Crew was able to evacuate ALL without loss ? Sad News re the Five Coast Guard Crew that are now in the Big Blue Sky ! Regardless of the outcome from the Investigation,I feel strongly for the remaining ( Captan ) Crew. Survivors Guilt could be massive in this situation.
Thank you Denys, I HOPED for your reaction! 😊
The question that remains to be answered is who cleared the Coast Guard aircraft when the passenger aircraft was already in the final stage of landing... and how did ATC miss the runway incursion? 😢
I say lack of understanding from the coast guard and radio control, message didn't sound that clear to me.
Don't pre-judge! As Dennis said "We don't know that the Airbus was even cleared to land" We know very little at the moment, please wait.
It's still under investigation for sure. We should be patient and hope the truth will prevails
I understand where your coming from. however I thought the one thing we did know was Airbus was cleared to land, with Airbus confirming that instruction. However it is early days, I take a seat and wait for the dust to clear. @@mrplod1616
The available ATC audio from open-source enthusiast audio recordings is a bit garbled (official recordings are available from the tower to investigators). But, it sounds like the CG aircraft was told to hold, but with some non-standard phraseology. That will have to come out in the official investigation.
9:02 Thanks for mentioning that, since that happened i wondered why TCAS wasn't warning them.
Interesting synopsis Petra. Your new format is nice. At least we know it was probably a foreign crew Japanese is no susceptible to mistakes like other races.
It's astonishing they found and got the pilot out in time to get him to the hospital. Great credit to the rescue crew. That was a gigantic, hot fireball as a ginormouse a350 smashed directly through his relatively light dash-8. It's like a friggin order of magnitude more massive and heavier and it's the one going 140 knots. I bet the impact of the front of the plane hitting the pavement was worse than the impact they felt from initially hitting the plane. The energy difference is insane. Plus, they were much taller and the landing gear coming off after the nose was almost over helped.
Had the A359 pilot seen the -8 on his screen, would the aircraft have reacted in time to his efforts to pull up enough to avoid collision? Flight controls, throttle, air speed, etc. would have all been in landing mode. The aircraft takes time to react in that situation.
my guess would be that the DASH 8 was ready for take off and it light and runway lights most have blend together just like skywest was.
Thank you this video uploading.
I thought this video was useful as a Japanese person.
Sadly in this tragedy. Either pilots of the coast guard plane misunderstood instructions from ATC like to hold short or ATC cleared them to enter the runway.
Seems like human error. (Not a criticism) And in future Not trust if AI is given any certain capacity when airline traffic safety is involved.
or the dash was on 34 right when he should have been on 34 left
The Coast Guard captain was the only one who made it out alive hmmm...
There are multiple interviews of the passengers indicate several systems on the A350 failed. Intercom was down, door system was down, evac light or some lighting was down, so it was very chaotic. The crew has to manually open the doors. With multiple failures, the safe evac is mostly attributed to excellent crew training and the discipline of Japanese people. If this was in the US, China, or India, I bet there would be more fatalities.
Apparently they lost on board communications and used a mega phone to direct passengers...another fact 1 engine was still spinning when the slide was deployed and passengers had to crawl, wriggle and push themsrelves down it as the pitch angle was too low which slowed the numbers ...
🙏 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO! I COULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE COMPLEXITY OF AIRPLANE LANDING. 🙏
Why do you SCREAM?
Hello from Japan. According to various local sources, the coast guard airplane entered the runway without permission and there was no go around instruction. I hold PPL and I didn't know Haneda used multiple radio frequencies for one active runway. This could also lead to this incident as the coast guard airplane had no chance to hear JL516 was cleared to land... and yes, I wouldn't understand why the airplane entered the runway (not only crossing) without looking at the airplane positioned to landing.
Apparently, there are lighting systems (similar to the traffic lights) have been malfunctioning along the runway 34R for some times. Under the normal circumstances, there should be a row of red lights indicating the No Entry condition to the runway. Also, the quality of the communication channel some of words from the control tower were hardly heard.
Tragic stuff. One thing is for sure - either one of the pilots and/or the ATC made a major error. Will be interesting to see the final results.
What surprised me was how flammable the Airbus appeared to be. I know there was fuel involved, but at this point it should have been fairly light. Glad everyone got out of the Airbus, sad for the Dash-80 guys... RIP
Great anaylsis Dennis - anywhere on the ramp or runway is dangerous - looks like miscommunication is cause
I believe there was a communication error between those involved. By international agreement English is used for air traffic communication. But English is a second language to these pilots and ATC. One simple miscomprehension could easily lead to an accident.
VAS transcripts of ATIS I think mentioned clear 10 miles vis. I always checked for incoming taxiing and definitely a few seconds at least before before taking the runway. Amazing the Airbus surviving passengers and crew. I hope there weren't any pets in cargo.
pure negligence!
At 8:50 the reason why it didnt display to the A350 is because apparently from I report I saw, the Dash8 didn’t have a ADSB transponder.
I do not know if it is possible to have a running way to take off and onother one for landing??
The reason they were on two different freqs , was possibly two TWR positions and the controller was probably working both. Or the controller may have been working ground control and the TWR combined. Its very common when traffic allows for it. Meaning its not that busy.
I am used to air craft accidents for decades. As I saw the video it was clear that the fireball was the smaller machine which got ploughed through by the much heavier Airbus and the fireball was the DH8C as the bigger mass of the Airbus saved maybe not the jet but all its passengers. As I heard that the pilot survived it was obvious that the larger plane must have crashed through the rear with the other passengers in the small plane as normally the pilot has in most cases the worst luck.
As unfortunate the loss of the crew of the smaller plane is, the larger jet fulfilled its job to bring the passengers all safely to the ground even it was lost in the fire afterwards which I am most grateful. My sincere condolences to the dead coast guard crew and all survivors for a horrific experience. But the fact that they survived IS the most important fact despite the trauma.Most airport accients like this were slips in communication or some error from the controller. It's tragic but happens sometimes, luckily very rarely. :/
Its a miracle that all the passenger where safely escorted off the plane in a span of a few minutes
Yo @Pilot blog, how can I get over my fear of flying, I’m always scared it’s gonna crash, I also have a flight in about a month and I’m really scared 😟 .
First of all, condolences for all the fatalities and their relatives I wish great strengths in their tragic loss. It is always hard when a relative passes. For those who didn't know them the mere fact of them being helpers of an even greater tragedy (the earthquake) should make to feel piety… RIP!
And big BIG kudos to the JAL flight crew and also to the passengers! They all shown that Japanese traditions and way of attitude are still high and venerable.
Finally, big thank you, Captain Dennys! Your commentary was really insightful. Before this I was Juan Brown's explanations and I had a slight doubt whether I will hear or see something new, but yes, I did! Your points were perfectly clicked into Blancolirio's and the one plus one finally added up to three!
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Thanks Denys
scinating, and so lucky passengers were unharmed!
They need to put railroad crossing type barriers, at runway access intersections, that would prevent access to the active runway while another aircraft is departing or landing.
A small addition to the video and a detail that I immediately noticed as a former helicopter mechanic:
As you can see in the picture of the Airbus 350 at 6:44 min in the video, the nose of the aircraft is damaged down to the cockpit. This is not a result of the landing, but rather a result of the collision with the Dash 8-300. The Dash 8-300 has a total height of 7.49 m above the ground. The damage to the nose of the Airbus 350 is T-shaped, so one can assume that the Dash 8-300 was already on the runway in the direction of take-off! Therefore, the pilots of the Dash 8-300 could not see the Airbus landing. Unfortunately, I couldn't see any flashlights from the Dash 8-300 in the videos.
Note: This is all just a guess until the Official Investigation Report tells us the truth. I ask all readers to behave professionally, as is usual in aviation. Flies safely.
A transcript says he was directed to hold short at C1 not C5.
I cannot understand why the planes were on different frequencies. Or was the Dash Eight still on the ground control frequency and erroneously taxied into the runway?
Could be that the Coast Guard crew was not familiar with night operations in such a large airport? I assume that they normally fly on some smaller military airfield.
Kudos to the Japan Airlines Pilots and Crew for doing an outstanding job in saving nearly 400 passengers. On the other hand, all Japan Coast Guard pilots need to undergo training on following instruction and paying attention to details.
The record of radio communication between a350 and Japan Coast Guard is now released.
(The article may be in Japanese only.)
There is speculation that the Dash 8-300 had not yet fully entered the runway, but it was far enough that the left engine of the Airbus struck it causing the fuel explosion.
I don’t logically understand your comment. Engine gets in touch with Dash 8 first but not the wing?
As per the regulations, the minimum separation distance between aircraft is based on the larger plane's overall dimensions, not just individual components like engines.
Engines are closer to the plane’s fuselage. They are not placed on the edges of the wings.
Distance from hold point is 150 feet to edge of runway and 250 feet to centerline. I measured on Gmaps. Wingtip of A350 is 106 feet from center of aircraft. Dash 8 had to be beyond the hold point even if A350 was left of centerline. Main question is why Dash 8 thought he was cleared onto the active.
@@auspiciousjelly3919Dash 8 has a height of 8m while A350 wingtip ground clearance is 7m. It is possible the wing of A350 too high to not make contact with Dash 8 while the engine can.
The Dash 8 was on the centerline. Both engines of the A350 show impact damage from hitting the wings of the Dash 8 and it looks like the A350 nosecone hit the tail of Dash 8.
That is what I surmise happened as the nose cone seemed to be sliced vertically before the gear was taken out, though it doesn't necessarily explain the lack of visible prop damage to the 350's wings/engines.@@rootuz42
I still cant believe that the JA 557 didnt check the runway before lining up ? And i dont think they were even cleared to line up except to hold short .
To me it seems the pilot error and Tower Frequency error 😕
Two questions about commercial aviation safety. Before that, Thanks for the breakdown!
First, would TCAS have helped?:
Second, apart from TCAS, Isn't there some form of runway awareness incursion system in place to detect these kinds of possible collision?
Thank you
Tcas doesn't work on the ground, only above like 1000ft or something. Otherwise it would be going off nonstop lol
@@joyride6062 I'm not sure IF it is true about TCAS II version 7.1
Accidents in aviation and professional analysis, as well as honestly admitting mistakes (you have to learn that first) and speaking freely about them, have made aviation so safe that today we see every accident as a sensation.
This accident will also increase safety and save lives! Unfortunately, this time we had to pay for the new knowledge with four human lives.
Today they took a drone image of the A350, and except the wings, the rest of the plane is absolutely crumbled to dust. Is it because of the carbon fibre body?
I heard that one of the A350 engine was still running whilst evacuation. I believe the Dash 8 may or may not been equipped with Transponder. Which means TCAS wouldn’t been active for the Airbus
you believe it "may or may not be equipped". thats kinda an empty statement innit?
How about Stopbar procedure? The Dash 8 must have followed, even they’re military service
Thank you to everyone from overseas for your supportive comments.
I felt very encouraged when I saw these comments.
And I'm sure the Japanese people will also feel better.
And good luck to all of you who are so kind!
Acas- aircraft collision avoidance system... was it turned on on both aircraft? - was there a ground collision avoidance system setup at that airport? Why were the aircrafts poorly advised by atc? This is like a movie...
Wow, Denys! 1.2M subs on this channel! I had no idea it was this big. #BlancoLirio noted the ground stop bar lights were out.
I don't think he caught that the 2 ac were on different tower freqs - seems very odd for same runway ops.
Looks straight out of the crash scenes in Die Hard 2!
Seems like the primary reason for the lack of casualties is that from the perspective of the airbus, it was an under-carriage strike. So lots of flame but little immediate damage to the passenger compartment. The plane that was out of position almost has to be the coast guard flight, IMO. The fact that they were on different frequencies bothers me but then Sky Harbor, near me, has like 6 or 7 different tower frequencies depending on what you're doing. Approach, departure, east side of the airport, west side, etc. These airports are now far too large for a single ground controller to manage, especially when there are planes arriving and departing something like every five minutes so to see two planes on different frequencies is a symptom of that, I think. I'm glad that everyone on the passenger plane survived as well as the captain of the other plane. I'm also very sorry for the five who died trying to perform a valuable service for their countrymen.
Iran pilot? You have to skill same procedures like German pilots for landing in my homeland. So I trust you!
...and you made great video. I did sent to Pascal, a A320 pilot at Condor, for his channel AeronewsGermany.
Did I read that the red STOP lights that should have altered the Dash aircraft were not working (according to a NOTAM)