So the smaller 10/24 model has a single 707584 impeller belt, while the larger 12/27 takes dual 707584 impeller belts. From what I've seen, you can run a 1/2"x35" kevlar belt with the idler in the middle position and it should last longer and be much cheaper. However, Vickers sells a belt replacement that's listed at 1/2x35.6" vickers-marketing.ca/ECommerce/product/612-7120/murray-37-x-120-ma-581264 DrMower sells a replacement that says it's a 1/2x36" www.drmower.ca/products/95866-laser-auger-belt-replaces-707584 And Canadian Tire sells a replacement for a 707584 for $25.99 Canadian, but they say it's 1/2x40.5" long. www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/certified-snowblower-replacement-drive-belt-1-2-x-40-1-2-0604597p.html Until I get one and can measure, I'm not posting anything definitive!
35" to 40.5" difference in belts is HUGE. How can the same B&S part number (# 707584) have 4 possible lengths of replacement belt? I ordered two 35" as spares for my B&S 1696619 snowblower, but now I'm not sure it will even fit...? I guess I'll only find out when one snaps and I need to replace it.
Used the 1/2”x 36 belt, my machine ate it. The belt keeper located on the lower outside of the big auger pulley was touching the belt. The “standard” belt did not fit inside the V groove on the pulley, it stood proud just enough to interfere with that keeper. Also with that belt the smaller pulley is too big , as in the will run without the handle being engaged. Just yesterday replaced all the oem parts(pulley, belt) just buy the 707584 belt. Yup too late , I already have this blower🙄
Used the 1/2”x 36 belt, my machine ate it. The belt keeper located on the lower outside of the big auger pulley was touching the belt. The “standard” belt did not fit inside the V groove on the pulley, it stood proud just enough to interfere with that keeper. Also with that belt the smaller pulley is too big , as in the auger will run without the handle being engaged. Just yesterday replaced all the oem parts(pulley, belt) just buy the 707584 belt. Yup too late , I already have this blower🙄
When people are buying a snowblower we don't think about what replacement parts cost we're excited about getting a new blower. I appreciate that you are warning us about this particular brand like I said not thinking about cost of replacement parts. Thanks again for a very informative video I always watch your videos you in my opinion are a honest person looking out for us less inform viewers. Thanks again for your help and honestly you the man.
good to see someone out there like you alerting the consumers on things like this it could save people alot of money and headaches just by watching a video like yours. Keep up the great content!!!!!!!!!
Excellent video. The biggest issue I have seen with the Briggs engines is the cam breaking the compression release and then burning out the starters due to the starter not being able to overcome the compression. Great video, many thanks.
When I was at John Deere picking up a brass bushing for the auger drive on my SB1164 snowblower, I mentioned to the parts guy that I also needed shear pins for both the auger and impeller. He told me to go to the hardware store and get 1/4 x 2" bolts and lock nut and 5/16 x 2 -1/2 " with nylock nut and make sure they were a GR 5. He said our price for these pins was astronomically stupid and not to buy them here. So I purchased 25 of each with nylock nuts for I believe 15 dollars tax in and never looked back. JD is the color of money, and after seeing an actual pin from the parts guy I just shook my head and went to the hardware store. The Brass bushing was expensive enough, so it was nice to get a brake on the pins.
The 1024 seems decent, I was using it and it went through some heavy snow without issue. Still lots of stuff cheaply built, and the replacement parts I needed for the shift rod (sold as a kit) are sadly on back order and of course the prices are just ridiculously expensive.
Bro, Ron from Ron Small Engines, Mississauga here. Thanks for the video. I have seen many of your videos and enjoy watching these. I am 15 years in this business. 1. Here is my take on belts (auger and wheels drive). I replace every single factory belt with an Aramid belt. Not one single belt has ever come back. The belt measuring tool is my go to. I often find conflicting belt size measurements on the Internet. 2. Shear bolts. I carry all kinds. However, as long as it is a guarantee that the bolt is not graded, it is safe to use. Never an issue. 3. Spark plugs - never anything but NGK Japan or Champion USA - trusted source, of course.
Yes forsure agree with the spark plugs, we always use OEM shear bolts and pins. As for belts, if they call for raw edge that's what I use. If they come with a covered, I'll use a amarid stens one that's the same size. Thanks for watching!
I have been a small engine mechanic for over 40 years just use a piece of threaded rod The proper hole size with two lock nuts. You can buy a long piece of threaded rod 4 feet long for 4 dollars and cut a bunch of sheer pins with a hacksaw and put two lock nuts on both ends and you will have a ton of sheer pins very cheaply any length you want. Threaded rod will always break instead of breaking your machine. Don’t pay those high prices for shear pins.
@@YFindustries Seems like a great idea but as we have said before if the IPL calls for specific shear pins that is what we have to use as a business. If we did this and they were breaking our customers would expect us to run out to their place and replace them a no brainer why we use the proper shear pins or bolts.
@@BlakeAdamsCO just steel threaded rod nothing fancy is all you need. It is strong enough but not too strong. You do not want hardened rod. And being threaded rod it has a built-in fracture point just what you want. The three common sizes I see are .25/.312/.375 and with those three rods you can make just about any sheer pin you need. I also pick up a box of lock nuts for each size and I am good to go. Remember you never want to fully tighten a sheer pin you are working on the shear strength of the bolt or threaded rod in this condition.
I was glad to see you point out all the positive and negative details of that machine. If one of those engines threw a rod and destroyed the bottom end I’d replace it with a Honda engine and have a superior machine. Since at that point I wouldn’t be concerned anymore about sticking with OEM parts I’d be using whatever shear pins or bolts were available that had the correct dimensions and metal characteristics to most closely replicate the originals. As for the belts, measuring the old ones accurately would get me perfectly good replacements.
Right on Rein but we have to wait until they break or wear down too much before we can remove them for measurement. Offering one to two day service will not happen on this blower unless the measurement comes up to something we have in stock so this one is likely a 50 50 shot of us having the proper belts in stock.
By far one of the best thumbnail shots i have seen on UA-cam. Hard to believe the cost of these parts and all the viewers should be pleased to see you showed your cost where you are only making $2 profit per set of shear bolts (not really that much of a mark up eh?) I really think they are trying to clear out these snowblowers at that discounted price and i have seen some at Canadian Tire where there profit margin is only $89 per snowblower when they have huge mark downs. Hard to say they do not get a better price than you would since they buy so much volume. Anyways a great video trying to save your viewers from making a bad investment and keeping them well informed, keep up the great work!
Great video! Thank You So Very Much for making this video! i am Extremely glad that i watched this video and the information in it. i Was thinking of buying one of those snowblowers. i went with a Toro snowblower.
What an eye opener. The cheapest Briggs Sheer Pins I found for that model here in the U.S is $10.89 for a pack of 2. As always thanks for sharing with us.
Yea it's hard to believe I can get the MTD ones for like $1.50 each lol the ones on Amazon Canada I listed for $26 are now like $38 or something ridiculous. People making lots of money selling them once Briggs places them on backorder.
I almost bought a Briggs snow blower off of marketplace... Until I saw your video while doing some research. I ended up backing out on the deal for $250. I ended up buying a Craftsman from a local seller. I watched a couple other reviews on the Briggs and in one of the videos the guy used it once and already broke two shear pins. I was impressed with the build of this machine but not the upkeep cost. Thanks for the video.
Informative video, hard to believe the price for those pins. I really enjoy your videos!I have an '08 Ariens 24 with a Briggs motor. As I understand it Briggs started offshoring engines the following year....too bad. My machine has never failed me and after 14 years of maritime winters, have yet to blow a shear pin....still have the two spares that came with the machine. I do seasonal maintenance every year as well as spray it down with Fluid Film a couple of times in winter and one good spray before laying it up for summer and that seems to keep the rust at bay.
You must not have any 3/4 inch clear stone on the East Coast cause it is always this type of stone or a newspaper buried under the snow that shear most pins. Sometimes the big chunk of ice from not clearing the city plowed snow before it starts to freeze solid.
@@waynestefinashen239 paved driveway and don't have any annoying flyers dumped in my drive. Took a few calls to get them to stop throwing them but finally got it stopped. I also clear the street to the left of my drive about a car length, that takes most of the snow from the plow before it buries my driveway.
Great video! Thanks for the information. I purchased a Brute snowblower several years ago with the same B&S engine. I broke my first shear bolt this year and had a hard time finding them. I found a similar shear bolt at Lowes for $4.50 each. Thats a good deal compared to the ones in the video.
Great info. My 74yr old uncle has this machine. He bought it new. Trouble from the first use. Today he calls my with another blown auger belt. Single pulley on this one. Heavy wet snow in MPLS MN. There have been other problems as well. Yep stay away is good advice. Thanks
Thanks for the honest review! As a retired repair tech I respect that! Have a ? For you…I just purchased an older craftsman (maybe 10-12 years old) an the model # tag is gone…it is a 24” 14.5 ft lb with a lct engine…am trying to find out what I actually need for shear pins an couple other parts as I prepare it for winter…any help would be greatly appreciated from this ol’maritimer.
Hard to say Arthur... without seeing it I wouldn't even know where to start unfortunately. Email me some photos to eliminatorperformance@hotmail.com and maybe we can find something. Thanks for watching!
Donyboy73 did a video once on the typical spark plugs to stock in a small engine shop. I struggled last Winter with trying to figure out and source shear pins and bolts. It would be a great help for some of us for you to photograph the lid of your assortment box of those and go through the whole list, matching up the various typical replacements with machines they are used on, especially at this time of year when these parts will need to be ordered more frequently.
With all this climate change going on they are saying that where we live in Southern Ontario, Canada may become the Florida of the North and Mississippi will be changing to Arctic like conditions so we will keep one on hand for you when the day comes John!
Wondering if somebody could advise how to grease the gearbox and augers in this machine. Manual just says use grease on fittings if installed. The only fitting is on the gearbox. Do you just pump into a sealed gearbox with no exit hole? What grease do u even use. The manual is not very helpful at all.
Agree, these new Briggs & Stratton snowblowers are all Chinese built with Chinese engines. They're not as reliable as older ones. Yes, parts are super expensive. Ariens is also all Chinese built though.
I had a 1024 come in and it performed well, the main issue was the loose chute control and the aluminum speed selector piece on the shift rod stripped. They're on back order at the moment
Hello, thank you for your videos, they are very informative.I am looking to buy a new snowblower.Which brands would you recommend? Thank you for your reply!
We all so appreciated for the insightful information , can you do a short clip on snow blower from 24 inch to 27 inch any brand , for which one is good for the longevity please !
I would go with an Ariens snowblower anytime, personally think they are the best on the market. If you check top snowblowers online likely they are right up there on top or very close.
Bought a S1224 model from Costco. The Blower box on an angle since one side was 2cm higher than the other but the auger was straight. First use snow spued out the higher side and Auger belt had considerable belt dust all over. I returned it.
I am curious. Are the gears in the transmission metal or plastic? Were not some of the manufacturers going to plastic or nylon gears in place of metal?
The gear box in the middle had a bronze or brass gear and the shaft worm gear that drives it is metal. During service we always check the gearbox and normally install one ounce of 00 grease to ensure lubrication of the bronze or brass drive gear.
That’s the first time I seen a cog belt on a blower. If only they could of come up with a clutching system to have the blower driven by cog. Cog belts are tuff. I have yet to see a machine break blower wheel shear bolts. Most are rusted on after 1 season. I think the warranty is long gone on that machine. I’d be using universal parts all the way, but appreciate your honesty.
The drive belt is good, but still goes to a rubber friction wheel that can slip so I don't really see the advantage. A stronger spring on the friction plate would increase tension and friction on the friction wheel, but also wear it out quicker. I'd pass on this machine, there's a reason it's $500 off. Thanks for watching!
Basically the drive belt on this one could be called a serpentine belt since it is thinner than the regular cogged belts that you can purchase for either auger or drive systems on snowblowers. The cogged belts supposedly run cooler and have more grip due to the fact that they form better around the smaller drive pulley off the crankshaft.
It really is a good machine. I see them at Canadian Tire in various sizes. Simplicity is the same machine rebranded with the B&S engine. I’m surprised Can Tire does not have the parts cheaper.
Canadian Tire 'Certified 'PN #060-4564-0 shows as replacement for BS (and others) 707555. Look and fit identical to OEM. I used a few last winter - broke in same conditions as original pin.
My Airens Compact 24 snowblower has given me good service with its Briggs & Stratton engine. Only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s shear pins are way smaller than the ones on other similar sized Ariens blowers, including those on the standard 24 with the larger wheels. I’ve gone through a few shear pins on it, but maybe having the smaller pins errs on the side of caution.
Forgot to mention the pins are readily available at Home Depot at a reasonable price, however I haven’t bought any lately since I laid in a fairly large stash of them a few years ago.
Almost bought 2yrs ago Briggs & Stratton 10/24 blower.. Decided against it was not hearing good things about Engine not so much about rest of unit also looked @ Snapper found out it was built by Briggs & Stratton ⚠️ Ended up purchasing Ariens 24 Compact.. unable to give performance review @ this time … we haven’t had any measurable Snow ❄️ falls going on 2yrs now.. Just my luck..🍀 😂
@Woodstock G good number of toro blower belts here but search didn't find your number. You can measure yours by marking the side and then run it along floor or up wall and note length mark to mark. See if any of these match.
Great video, I’m into my 7 th season with this machine no major problems except belts slipping and now want to replace the friction drive rubber ( of course you have to buy the whole unit $115)and control cables for Auger $75.00 and Drive $86.00. Any way around B&S on these? Thanks
I've got a 10/24 blower. I use 3/8 inch threaded rod cut to 2 inch lengths, with nuts on both ends. Cheap cost, and easy to install. NEVER a grade 5 bolt!
I’m in Canada, and coincidentally was just about to do maintenance on my 1227. I’ve had it for 9 years and it is used extensively, doing my and several neighbour’s driveways. Yearly oil change(synthetic), plug, greased and belts inspected, fresh gas always. I bought this machine for $899. and other than shear bolts, nothing has broken. I’d be interested to know where I can purchase these anywhere near London Ontario if you know a source. Great video , by the way.
This is also a tenet to the fact that so many companies don’t let people to fix their own stuff! You can’t find or buy the parts and when you do they cost as much to fix the machine then to buy a new one! They should have law that states all equipment is given spare parts , special tools (if required), and parts & repair manuals! I mean you get Lamborghini tool kit when you buy the car!
Husqvarna 224 has plastic mounted controls levers.. The 227 and up has all steel mounted controls levers. So, if your going to buy a 2 stage Husqvarna, spend the extra 200 and get the 227.. 3in larger,more power and much better built..
Hi, do you know how many areas I need to grease on 1227model. I bought this blower thinking that it's north American built, rather than Chinese made. thanks
For those who have metal lathes, you can buy a set of cheap or low grade nuts, and cut the shear lines yourself. I've gone through several sets that cost me less than 4$ to make. They might even be weaker than the original OEM shear bolts, but at a fraction of the price.
@@kenhilson786 Likely will but may also break prematurely would have to do a test during the winter but i will stay in the warm shop and let Jake do the testing.
Good day Jake Yes interesting video. Yea hope some one gives price of States shear pins. U know price of blower was reasonable. I had to buy 2 christmas tree plastic clip for the pc above my rad on truck CTC 7.60. I thought that was crazy. Good video. Thanks keep it up.
I have a 3 year old Husqvarna 227. The first 2 years I broke 0 shear bolts. Theis year, year 3, I have broken 6 shear bolts in 3 storms.. I have hit nothing, they just keep braking.. Any idea why?
i have a 3 yo 1024 S. In the last two weeks I have broken both impeller bolts, at $40 Can !! (my old MTD went 15 yrs and never went wrong) can anyone suggest why ? B & S went bankrupt and getting parts is not easy
Parts aren't cheap, I just quoted a customer $428+ for parts for a B&S snowblower. A cable is $82 it's insane. Friction wheel, you can't buy just the rubber from what I can see, you have to order the entire bearing assembly too, it comes as a friction wheel "kit" for $118
I have this same snow blower and it works fine. The only issue I have is the chute wanders on it's own from the vibration. I keep having to adjust it every 10 seconds. I looked for something to tighten but there is nothing to tighten. Is there anything I can do to make it not wander so much?
I have just replaced my 20 year old Yardworks blower with this Briggs and Straton snowblower. In 20 years, I had one shear pin break. I don't see any reason to be concerned.
Wow, I wish i would have seen this video before i bought my briggs 1024md I wont make that mistake again,(not looking up cost of parts) prior to buying an item. However as a mechanic i can do my own servicing and repairs. People treat shear pins like fuses, use the proper one or you will have some serious issues, good video
Hey, Jake! I tend to do quite a bit of statistical analysis sometimes to understand things better. Canadian population is 11% of US, so from that perspective you’re doing really well. I factored in two other metrics to get closer to your 25% number. One was the actual percentage of US who deal with regular snow (about 60%), and tied that to the percentage of snowblowers you work on and do videos on compared to all other non-snow-related equipment. That second metric is what would drive more viewers to you who also deal with that equipment regularly. If you factor those variables in the 25% you see from Canada probably correlates very closely to the 75% US. As a side note, I watch dozens of different channels and have them organized in different ways. One of my most efficient ways is to organize by expertise in specific areas. I consider Canadians in general to have more expertise around snowblowers, so you’re first on that list, followed by DONYBOY73 and Steve’s Small Engine. I also like Arch’s Garage, mostly because I identify with him in terms of geographical proximity and age group. Wayne can identify. 😉
@@Rein_Ciarfella He is a doctor professor basically a joke to his comment. But i did sub to his channel and will be watching some of his videos maybe purchase some of the stocks he feels have major future growth. Looks interesting!
they seem to work good for a cheaper unit! same motor design on lots of different models from around 5hp to about 16hp 24 to 30inch,, the auger pins are a standard size with a cut in it so it shears, don't need to order the expensive ones, amazon has cheap repair kits with bulbs included, carbs lines seals for cheap to change all the near perished parts not just the primmer
RH at our hourly rate it only takes just over 4 minutes to blow through $10 Cdn so it is not worth it for us plus the liability factor. Hope it works for you but i might start with a grade 2 and work my way up.
@@RussellHoughton I can understand sir yours likely would work perfectly without destruction of the gear box, provided that the original shear pins or bolts were also grade 5 and not grade 2.
bought the drive belt today for $29.50 CND (including tax) at Canadian tire a 2 pack x2 shear pins (4 in total) for 29.36!! Certified with BS part numbers!!
Great video. I have a John deere 1028e that is very similar to this machine .I think briggs and Stratton is foolish to gouge they're customer with these ridiculous prices.
Like i always said every company keeps changing models so you can not use old parts on new machines, it would appear to me that a cable is a cable but there are thousands of them instead of say a standard lower quantity. The worst thing is when everything is on back order and you can not get the part for a month or more.
Are Briggs and Stratton snowthrowers rebranded Simplicity models? That blower would not appear to be. Also, why is that blower so deeply discounted in these times of shortages and inflation? For that kind of money you can't get a Powermore in the States.
Don't forget that's Canadian prices too, so take off 35% and it's a brand new $665 snow blower. I believe the reason these stores are discounting them so heavily, even at a time of increased inflation and the upcoming winter season, is because they've had issues with them, they weren't big sellers, or they're just trying to get rid of them. If you mark off $500, there can't be much of a profit left, and these stores may actually be taking a small loss.
Ive just been using normal bolts in mine for last 3 norther canada winters dont run over any heavy obstacles and you be fine. My farmer neighbor taught me this. So far so great. At first I went thru 40 dollars worth of actual shear bolts which shear way to easy. 2 to 4 bolts per driveway. Not anymore.
Yes but again, if you notice my price of $55 and the belt lists for $62 and then shipping, it might have been that price. So it's not us (the dealers) necessarily ripping you off, it's our cost from the manufacturer.
Been there do that, needed a Toro mower blade before we had sources to purchase from and paid $34 Cdn plus tax when the regular price should have be $24 tops.
Good Video, I Live In Australia & We Don't need These Machines Much., But B&S Is Making A Killing At $10 a Bolt. The price Of The Normal V Belts ,That's Ridiculous. You Can Understand The Other Belt being a Bit Dearer...
Thanks for the comment Jon my dad fought side by side with the Aussies during WWII and said they were the greatest fighters in the world. He was with the Canadian Princess Pats Division. His dream was to visit Australia before he passed away but unfortunately he never made it died at 68. Also thanks for subscribing to the channel it helps out.
@@waynestefinashen239 Sorry to hear About your Dad, Too Young To Leave This World. It's a Shame He Never Came Here To Visit It Is One Of The Best Countries In The World. Your Welcome With The Subscription
Hi, It would be really interesting to reverse engineer the shear pins - the calculation of shear force is is more than easy if you know dimensions. The only unknow is material shear stress properties. Once that is e.g. measured on a factory shear pin you can find an equivalent shear pin AND you can even use e.g. standard bolt if the fits an equivalent shear force. At the end of the day the needed jig would be a device to measure shear forces and you would become a MASTER of all shear pins ever produced! 🙂
Right on Li Hu i started out in Closed Die Forging Quality Control and one of my jobs was mechanical testing of materials with one being measuring shear strength of forged and heat treated materials. The machined test pieces are like 1.5 inch long 3/8 inch key stock with a V machined on one edge and we use like a long handled Thor hammer with an angled face to strike the test piece to measure breaking shear strength in ft lbs and % shear fracture.
@@waynestefinashen239 You are probably talking about this: ua-cam.com/video/tpGhqQvftAo/v-deo.html However, that is not testing shear. It is actually bend. I made Charpy hammer test when I was at high school some years ago :)
This is why I learned machining so I can use the stock material and MAKE my own as an owner. I’d wondered about making them, but liability! So only for my self with a nice large/mill combo.
@@bazookamoose7224 Remember, that it's not enough to fit dimensions only, the material properties is the second issue you have to match. That you can find out only by measurements of totally unknown material - the factory shear pin.
Not a lot of people look at that part of buying anything sadly finding out parts cost twice other machines replacement parts. In this case possibly 3x the cost.
Because I am capable of fixing anything on a snow blower, I can have a 1980s Murray as my main machine. But, I saw a 21" 212cc single stage Powersmart on black Friday for $250 with a $50 rebate. Yes, I know, China's finest. But the engine alone is $150 at harbor freight. And at 70+ it's a lot more maneuverable than the old standby with my bad shoulders. Will it be around in 40 years? I doubt it. But the alternatives all seem to be 90% Chinese with American names. Even Toro uses Loncin engines, how bad can it be? Update. It's a good engine the rest, not so much.
Recently ordered two small chute related parts for my B&S 1022EE single stage. $28 USD= $51+ bit more CAD. I am wondering, if our Canadian government is really interested in reducing garbage 🗑 in the landfills or just all talks and no substance.
Those rebranded machines are a Murray from when Briggs absorbed them. I'd look at other machines of the same design to cross-reference parts/prices. Btw, you misspoke when you said it's 12hp. The 12 is just rounded up from the 11.5 ft. Lbs of torque rating. HP is in the 7.5 range.
Same as I have, if you have the adjustable throttle it's better than having it rev right up to 3600 rpm when cold. You still need to throttle them up when you start them, but you can idle them down to warm up, I find that helps increase their life a bit
@@EliminatorPerformanceyes it has the adjustable throttle. Can't find a parts list for 15/27 for spare shear bolts. Must be a new model?? Thinking 15/30 might be the same shear bolts for spares...sent off a couple emails to Briggs and JDNA.
Yea who knows, I remember they got sued a while back because their HP ratings were off, so now they go by Torque but then why would they name it a 1227MD lol I guess 11.527MD just didn't sound as good.
HP cannot be measured and because B&S was the first to be sued and lost everyone including B&S lists the torque rating since it can accurately be measured. Thanks for the comment.
That's not bad at all, I'm assuming you're in USA? Unfortunately, everything here in Canada has gotten extremely expensive lately... I usually have to tell my customers, this is what it costs me, and this is my list price for you, I'm not making a huge mark up.
I've had this a year now and its crap, I've used it less than 10 times and lost 3 shear bolts and the thrower belt is now squeaking. Also, the machine won't propel itself in wet snow and I adjusted the drive cable twice now and am afraid to tighten any more. You are correct on your assessment of this machine. @@EliminatorPerformance
I bought the Brute version of this machine in 2010. Absolute trash. This thing would snap shear pins Iike nobody's business. It also lost drive to the wheels at random intervals. I finally got fed up and enlarged the shear pin holes to take MTD pins since I really didnt care if it blew up or not. Oddly enough, it improved the performance of this machine quite a bit. After 12 years it's still doing its job, grudgingly, so I guess I can't be too hard on it. It had me cursing more than once though. I had to chase it down the road one day when the drive platter backed off and wouldn't disengage the wheel drive. This thing needs as much wrenching as an f1 car.
That's unfortunate, and yes I'd probably try to find something that would work. In the 1 part of the video, I installed another set of shear bolts just to test the theory that something else might work.
Funny you point to a runaway snowblower since we just got a unit in that did the same thing but in this case the customer is 95 years old and still does his own snow removal with this old 5/21 Toro snowblower.
So here's my question. Do you just SCRAP that snow blower because you cannot get shear bolts for it? Where does THAT make sense? Any shear bolt is better than a regular bolt, which is exactly what a home owner would do. Yes mabe you deal with Briggs and work with their parts, but that's no excuse to tell the owner he is flat out screwed because he cannot get a shear bolt that's OEM. Your best bet is to tell the owner to use an after market shear bolt but have them put them in or have them agree you are not liable. As a homeowner, I would rather run it with aftermarket, than having the unit just sit there forever.
No I'm just saying that as a shop if the OEM parts were back ordered, I can't just throw anything in there. I understand what you mean, and I could sell my customer other shear bolts that fit, but they would be the ones installing them, not us. That covers me for liability in the event they hit something and the improper shear bolt was used. That's what I'm getting at in this video. Also, the price of parts is outrageous, and again, the exclusivity. You may also have noticed in the 1 part of the video, I used some other shear bolts and installed them just to see if they'd fit and I'd have a backup in case that happened.
RC Jake is right on as a certified company operation he must install OEM parts or quality equivalents provided these will match up with the OEM parts. Since shear bolts have different shear strengths it is impossible to guarantee an aftermarket would match. Our next door neighbour was breaking shear bolts purchased from his dealer every snowfall, since we have supplied him with a full set of OEM shear bolts to match his machine he has gone two years without issue. We believe he was been sold Chinesium shear bolts.
@@waynestefinashen239 So the snow blower just sits in his shop until those shear bolts arrive? Mabe till spring? I worked for a B@S Dealer that eventually pulled out of B@S because they were screwing him on warrenty work compensation. I have seen several Briggs certified Mechanics pull out of Briggs for that reason. A shop has to be able to make money. Tying up storage space or having equipment taking up space in your shop is not profitable. I would be honest and up front with the owner and give him the option of installing after market equipment. My guess is he will go with that. The OEM parts could be ordered and sent to the customer to install or even have him bring the blower in at a later date using the after market parts. If the blower is beyond its warrenty, there shouldn't even be an issue. Even then, who cares about a worthless warrenty if it expires sitting in a shop waiting on factory parts( yes that has happened). The idea is to make the customer happy and get the equipment fixed and out the door. There are work arounds.
@@scottfirman Customer extremely pleased two days to receive OEM shear bolts and complete service and repair done on his snowblower at EP other places 2 months.
Some good informational video here on this particular briggs and strattion snowblower $20 for the shear bolts wow and most of the expensive parts like buying parts for a high end vehicle . saw shear bolts Mfr #OEM-710-0890 looking up from ace hardware here in the US. probably not the exact one for that model mtd there in this video but it was $6.99 US money.
This machine looks good, however, it is a pain in the ass to use. The machine is built for left handed people. This is all right if it is the only machine that one uses- as one simply gets use to it. If you operate multiple snow blowers, then it is a pain to adjust to- as the controls are reversed.
So the smaller 10/24 model has a single 707584 impeller belt, while the larger 12/27 takes dual 707584 impeller belts. From what I've seen, you can run a 1/2"x35" kevlar belt with the idler in the middle position and it should last longer and be much cheaper.
However, Vickers sells a belt replacement that's listed at 1/2x35.6" vickers-marketing.ca/ECommerce/product/612-7120/murray-37-x-120-ma-581264
DrMower sells a replacement that says it's a 1/2x36" www.drmower.ca/products/95866-laser-auger-belt-replaces-707584
And Canadian Tire sells a replacement for a 707584 for $25.99 Canadian, but they say it's 1/2x40.5" long. www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/certified-snowblower-replacement-drive-belt-1-2-x-40-1-2-0604597p.html
Until I get one and can measure, I'm not posting anything definitive!
35" to 40.5" difference in belts is HUGE. How can the same B&S part number (# 707584) have 4 possible lengths of replacement belt? I ordered two 35" as spares for my B&S 1696619 snowblower, but now I'm not sure it will even fit...? I guess I'll only find out when one snaps and I need to replace it.
@@SevenSixTwo2012 absolutely no idea, maybe these companies are measuring the belts improperly?
Used the 1/2”x 36 belt, my machine ate it. The belt keeper located on the lower outside of the big auger pulley was touching the belt. The “standard” belt did not fit inside the V groove on the pulley, it stood proud just enough to interfere with that keeper. Also with that belt the smaller pulley is too big , as in the will run without the handle being engaged. Just yesterday replaced all the oem parts(pulley, belt) just buy the 707584 belt. Yup too late , I already have this blower🙄
Used the 1/2”x 36 belt, my machine ate it. The belt keeper located on the lower outside of the big auger pulley was touching the belt. The “standard” belt did not fit inside the V groove on the pulley, it stood proud just enough to interfere with that keeper. Also with that belt the smaller pulley is too big , as in the auger will run without the handle being engaged. Just yesterday replaced all the oem parts(pulley, belt) just buy the 707584 belt. Yup too late , I already have this blower🙄
When people are buying a snowblower we don't think about what replacement parts cost we're excited about getting a new blower. I appreciate that you are warning us about this particular brand like I said not thinking about cost of replacement parts. Thanks again for a very informative video I always watch your videos you in my opinion are a honest person looking out for us less inform viewers. Thanks again for your help and honestly you the man.
Thanks for watching Ken!
good to see someone out there like you alerting the consumers on things like this it could save people alot of money and headaches just by watching a video like yours. Keep up the great content!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. The biggest issue I have seen with the Briggs engines is the cam breaking the compression release and then burning out the starters due to the starter not being able to overcome the compression. Great video, many thanks.
Yes and the connecting rods snapping is also an issue unfortunately. I've found it only happens to the ones without throttle controls.
When I was at John Deere picking up a brass bushing for the auger drive on my SB1164 snowblower, I mentioned to the parts guy that I also needed shear pins for both the auger and impeller. He told me to go to the hardware store and get 1/4 x 2" bolts and lock nut and 5/16 x 2 -1/2 " with nylock nut and make sure they were a GR 5. He said our price for these pins was astronomically stupid and not to buy them here. So I purchased 25 of each with nylock nuts for I believe 15 dollars tax in and never looked back. JD is the color of money, and after seeing an actual pin from the parts guy I just shook my head and went to the hardware store. The Brass bushing was expensive enough, so it was nice to get a brake on the pins.
I have a lot of people asking me about this machine. Thanks for sharing these details! 👍
The 1024 seems decent, I was using it and it went through some heavy snow without issue. Still lots of stuff cheaply built, and the replacement parts I needed for the shift rod (sold as a kit) are sadly on back order and of course the prices are just ridiculously expensive.
Bro, Ron from Ron Small Engines, Mississauga here. Thanks for the video. I have seen many of your videos and enjoy watching these. I am 15 years in this business. 1. Here is my take on belts (auger and wheels drive). I replace every single factory belt with an Aramid belt. Not one single belt has ever come back. The belt measuring tool is my go to. I often find conflicting belt size measurements on the Internet. 2. Shear bolts. I carry all kinds. However, as long as it is a guarantee that the bolt is not graded, it is safe to use. Never an issue. 3. Spark plugs - never anything but NGK Japan or Champion USA - trusted source, of course.
Yes forsure agree with the spark plugs, we always use OEM shear bolts and pins. As for belts, if they call for raw edge that's what I use. If they come with a covered, I'll use a amarid stens one that's the same size. Thanks for watching!
I have been a small engine mechanic for over 40 years just use a piece of threaded rod The proper hole size with two lock nuts. You can buy a long piece of threaded rod 4 feet long for 4 dollars and cut a bunch of sheer pins with a hacksaw and put two lock nuts on both ends and you will have a ton of sheer pins very cheaply any length you want. Threaded rod will always break instead of breaking your machine. Don’t pay those high prices for shear pins.
A great idea but because of liability issues we will be sticking with the right shear pin for the right snowblower.
Done that for years
@@YFindustries Seems like a great idea but as we have said before if the IPL calls for specific shear pins that is what we have to use as a business. If we did this and they were breaking our customers would expect us to run out to their place and replace them a no brainer why we use the proper shear pins or bolts.
@stevenLefebvre2991, do you get the rod made of steel, zinc or stainless steel? Thanks!
@@BlakeAdamsCO just steel threaded rod nothing fancy is all you need. It is strong enough but not too strong. You do not want hardened rod. And being threaded rod it has a built-in fracture point just what you want.
The three common sizes I see are .25/.312/.375 and with those three rods you can make just about any sheer pin you need. I also pick up a box of lock nuts for each size and I am good to go. Remember you never want to fully tighten a sheer pin you are working on the shear strength of the bolt or threaded rod in this condition.
I was glad to see you point out all the positive and negative details of that machine. If one of those engines threw a rod and destroyed the bottom end I’d replace it with a Honda engine and have a superior machine. Since at that point I wouldn’t be concerned anymore about sticking with OEM parts I’d be using whatever shear pins or bolts were available that had the correct dimensions and metal characteristics to most closely replicate the originals. As for the belts, measuring the old ones accurately would get me perfectly good replacements.
Right on Rein but we have to wait until they break or wear down too much before we can remove them for measurement. Offering one to two day service will not happen on this blower unless the measurement comes up to something we have in stock so this one is likely a 50 50 shot of us having the proper belts in stock.
@@waynestefinashen239 Understood
Yes tried to be unbiased as possible, seems decent enough with the design, but parts cost too much
WOW! Unbelievable!!! Thank You Kindly for helpin so many un-suspecting people Sir!! Stay safe and Bless you and yours!
Thanks for watching!
By far one of the best thumbnail shots i have seen on UA-cam. Hard to believe the cost of these parts and all the viewers should be pleased to see you showed your cost where you are only making $2 profit per set of shear bolts (not really that much of a mark up eh?) I really think they are trying to clear out these snowblowers at that discounted price and i have seen some at Canadian Tire where there profit margin is only $89 per snowblower when they have huge mark downs. Hard to say they do not get a better price than you would since they buy so much volume.
Anyways a great video trying to save your viewers from making a bad investment and keeping them well informed, keep up the great work!
Yes my markup is very low, so it's good to show the customer it's not us making these outrageous prices! Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thank You So Very Much for making this video! i am Extremely glad that i watched this video and the information in it. i Was thinking of buying one of those snowblowers. i went with a Toro snowblower.
The Toros are great, thanks for watching!
What an eye opener. The cheapest Briggs Sheer Pins I found for that model here in the U.S is $10.89 for a pack of 2. As always thanks for sharing with us.
Yea it's hard to believe I can get the MTD ones for like $1.50 each lol the ones on Amazon Canada I listed for $26 are now like $38 or something ridiculous. People making lots of money selling them once Briggs places them on backorder.
I have a snow blower that has a similar auger. I have found that cotter pins of the same size work just as well and cost 59 cents.
I almost bought a Briggs snow blower off of marketplace... Until I saw your video while doing some research. I ended up backing out on the deal for $250. I ended up buying a Craftsman from a local seller. I watched a couple other reviews on the Briggs and in one of the videos the guy used it once and already broke two shear pins. I was impressed with the build of this machine but not the upkeep cost. Thanks for the video.
Informative video, hard to believe the price for those pins. I really enjoy your videos!I have an '08 Ariens 24 with a Briggs motor. As I understand it Briggs started offshoring engines the following year....too bad. My machine has never failed me and after 14 years of maritime winters, have yet to blow a shear pin....still have the two spares that came with the machine. I do seasonal maintenance every year as well as spray it down with Fluid Film a couple of times in winter and one good spray before laying it up for summer and that seems to keep the rust at bay.
Yes we use rust cure formula 3000, its good stuff. Thanks for watching!
You must not have any 3/4 inch clear stone on the East Coast cause it is always this type of stone or a newspaper buried under the snow that shear most pins. Sometimes the big chunk of ice from not clearing the city plowed snow before it starts to freeze solid.
@@waynestefinashen239 paved driveway and don't have any annoying flyers dumped in my drive. Took a few calls to get them to stop throwing them but finally got it stopped. I also clear the street to the left of my drive about a car length, that takes most of the snow from the plow before it buries my driveway.
Great video! Thanks for the information. I purchased a Brute snowblower several years ago with the same B&S engine. I broke my first shear bolt this year and had a hard time finding them. I found a similar shear bolt at Lowes for $4.50 each. Thats a good deal compared to the ones in the video.
Great info. My 74yr old uncle has this machine. He bought it new. Trouble from the first use. Today he calls my with another blown auger belt. Single pulley on this one. Heavy wet snow in MPLS MN. There have been other problems as well. Yep stay away is good advice. Thanks
Sorry to hear that, seems like a decent snow blower until you start looking into it.
@@EliminatorPerformance that's what he thought.
Thanks for the honest review! As a retired repair tech I respect that!
Have a ? For you…I just purchased an older craftsman (maybe 10-12 years old) an the model # tag is gone…it is a 24” 14.5 ft lb with a lct engine…am trying to find out what I actually need for shear pins an couple other parts as I prepare it for winter…any help would be greatly appreciated from this ol’maritimer.
Hard to say Arthur... without seeing it I wouldn't even know where to start unfortunately. Email me some photos to eliminatorperformance@hotmail.com and maybe we can find something. Thanks for watching!
Hey This is excellent video. Wish more people would look over videos like this to guide them.
I agree with you 100%
Donyboy73 did a video once on the typical spark plugs to stock in a small engine shop. I struggled last Winter with trying to figure out and source shear pins and bolts. It would be a great help for some of us for you to photograph the lid of your assortment box of those and go through the whole list, matching up the various typical replacements with machines they are used on, especially at this time of year when these parts will need to be ordered more frequently.
Good idea Rein
Definitely anything related to MTD!
@@EliminatorPerformance Yup, which covers a lot of different machines and makes!
Nice job Jake, I've never had a reason to buy a snow blower but if hell ever freezes over I'll know which one to stay away from. 🙂👍
With all this climate change going on they are saying that where we live in Southern Ontario, Canada may become the Florida of the North and Mississippi will be changing to Arctic like conditions so we will keep one on hand for you when the day comes John!
LoL, I knew we could count on you Mr Wayne. 🙂👍🏼
@@Big_Johns Well John as they say down South where you live DANG RIGHT eh!
🤣🤣 exactly!! 👍🏼
Definitely, thanks for watching!
Wondering if somebody could advise how to grease the gearbox and augers in this machine. Manual just says use grease on fittings if installed. The only fitting is on the gearbox. Do you just pump into a sealed gearbox with no exit hole? What grease do u even use. The manual is not very helpful at all.
Agree, these new Briggs & Stratton snowblowers are all Chinese built with Chinese engines. They're not as reliable as older ones. Yes, parts are super expensive.
Ariens is also all Chinese built though.
I have the 1024 and the 9hp motor and it eats through snow banks 3 foot high with no issues if you take care of these they last forever
I had a 1024 come in and it performed well, the main issue was the loose chute control and the aluminum speed selector piece on the shift rod stripped. They're on back order at the moment
Hello, thank you for your videos, they are very informative.I am looking to buy a new snowblower.Which brands would you recommend? Thank you for your reply!
We all so appreciated for the insightful information , can you do a short clip on snow blower from 24 inch to 27 inch any brand , for which one is good for the longevity please !
I'll try, thanks for watching!
I would go with an Ariens snowblower anytime, personally think they are the best on the market. If you check top snowblowers online likely they are right up there on top or very close.
Bought a S1224 model from Costco. The Blower box on an angle since one side was 2cm higher than the other but the auger was straight. First use snow spued out the higher side and Auger belt had considerable belt dust all over. I returned it.
Dig your vids! Always informative!
Thanks shadow!
Dig all the nice comments thanks from us in Canada
I do like how the gear case has a grease fitting installed in it!! Cool design!
I am curious. Are the gears in the transmission metal or plastic? Were not some of the manufacturers going to plastic or nylon gears in place of metal?
These are metal! Standard rubber friction wheel drive on these. Super loud gears when pushed around though.
The gear box in the middle had a bronze or brass gear and the shaft worm gear that drives it is metal. During service we always check the gearbox and normally install one ounce of 00 grease to ensure lubrication of the bronze or brass drive gear.
I have a Briggs and Stratton 1450. What is used to lubricate the gear case grease fitting? The manual doesn't mention it.
NLGI #00 grease
@@EliminatorPerformance Thank you.
How do you know how much to use?
That’s the first time I seen a cog belt on a blower. If only they could of come up with a clutching system to have the blower driven by cog. Cog belts are tuff. I have yet to see a machine break blower wheel shear bolts. Most are rusted on after 1 season. I think the warranty is long gone on that machine. I’d be using universal parts all the way, but appreciate your honesty.
The drive belt is good, but still goes to a rubber friction wheel that can slip so I don't really see the advantage. A stronger spring on the friction plate would increase tension and friction on the friction wheel, but also wear it out quicker. I'd pass on this machine, there's a reason it's $500 off. Thanks for watching!
Basically the drive belt on this one could be called a serpentine belt since it is thinner than the regular cogged belts that you can purchase for either auger or drive systems on snowblowers. The cogged belts supposedly run cooler and have more grip due to the fact that they form better around the smaller drive pulley off the crankshaft.
The belts for my old Murray are less than $10 at the big box store. And the shear bolts were 10 for $11.
Good tips for sure. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Shade Tree thanks for the comment we appreciate all our subscribers and try to respond to all comments.
It really is a good machine. I see them at Canadian Tire in various sizes. Simplicity is the same machine rebranded with the B&S engine. I’m surprised Can Tire does not have the parts cheaper.
Yea from what I could see when running the numbers, these are Briggs and Stratton dealer exclusive parts. Thanks for watching!
Canadian Tire 'Certified 'PN #060-4564-0 shows as replacement for BS (and others) 707555. Look and fit identical to OEM. I used a few last winter - broke in same conditions as original pin.
Eh les habitants what really looks good on the outside appears to have some costly parts on the inside.
My Airens Compact 24 snowblower has given me good service with its Briggs & Stratton engine. Only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s shear pins are way smaller than the ones on other similar sized Ariens blowers, including those on the standard 24 with the larger wheels. I’ve gone through a few shear pins on it, but maybe having the smaller pins errs on the side of caution.
Forgot to mention the pins are readily available at Home Depot at a reasonable price, however I haven’t bought any lately since I laid in a fairly large stash of them a few years ago.
Almost bought 2yrs ago Briggs & Stratton 10/24 blower.. Decided against it was not hearing good things about Engine not so much about rest of unit also looked @ Snapper found out it was built by Briggs & Stratton ⚠️
Ended up purchasing Ariens 24 Compact.. unable to give performance review @ this time … we haven’t had any measurable Snow ❄️ falls going on 2yrs now..
Just my luck..🍀 😂
Question, the auger belt for a 1232 power max goes for $62 us. Is there an alternative?
No idea, what's the part number? If it's the same as the others, check my pinned comment.
@@EliminatorPerformance
SNOW BLOWER AUGER-BELT
Part #: 136-6504
@@WoodstockG54 looks like a toro belt, you'll have to get right from Toro unfortunately they don't like to share belt lengths
@@EliminatorPerformance ouch . My old snapper was $13 c. Maybe I should remove and measure before it gets used? Do you have a patron page?
@Woodstock G good number of toro blower belts here but search didn't find your number. You can measure yours by marking the side and then run it along floor or up wall and note length mark to mark. See if any of these match.
Have B &S 1227 MD elite , steerable, need help with adjusting drive and auger cables
Great video, I’m into my 7 th season with this machine no major problems except belts slipping and now want to replace the friction drive rubber ( of course you have to buy the whole unit $115)and control cables for Auger $75.00 and Drive $86.00. Any way around B&S on these?
Thanks
I've got a 10/24 blower. I use 3/8 inch threaded rod cut to 2 inch lengths, with nuts on both ends. Cheap cost, and easy to install.
NEVER a grade 5 bolt!
I’m in Canada, and coincidentally was just about to do maintenance on my 1227. I’ve had it for 9 years and it is used extensively, doing my and several neighbour’s driveways. Yearly oil change(synthetic), plug, greased and belts inspected, fresh gas always. I bought this machine for $899. and other than shear bolts, nothing has broken. I’d be interested to know where I can purchase these anywhere near London Ontario if you know a source. Great video , by the way.
This is also a tenet to the fact that so many companies don’t let people to fix their own stuff! You can’t find or buy the parts and when you do they cost as much to fix the machine then to buy a new one! They should have law that states all equipment is given spare parts , special tools (if required), and parts & repair manuals!
I mean you get Lamborghini tool kit when you buy the car!
Can you share the website to buy parts for this machine - I need to replace my Impeller - its bent & rubbing. Thanks!! It looks to be part 184
Great tip there young man 👍 glad you are doing this video on this money 🤑💰 pit of snow removal machine
Yes forsure, thanks for watching!
@@EliminatorPerformance you are welcome young man 👍😎
Husqvarna 224 has plastic mounted controls levers.. The 227 and up has all steel mounted controls levers. So, if your going to buy a 2 stage Husqvarna, spend the extra 200 and get the 227.. 3in larger,more power and much better built..
👍@Eliminator Performance, for letting people know before they purchase this snowblower
Thanks for watching Pete!
Thanks for the thumbs up Popsicle
Hi, do you know how many areas I need to grease on 1227model. I bought this blower thinking that it's north American built, rather than Chinese made.
thanks
For those who have metal lathes, you can buy a set of cheap or low grade nuts, and cut the shear lines yourself. I've gone through several sets that cost me less than 4$ to make. They might even be weaker than the original OEM shear bolts, but at a fraction of the price.
Can't you use a standard grade 2 bolt as a substitute shear pin?
no aftermarket shear pins yet?
As far as I could see, when I ran those numbers there's nothing that comes up for aftermarket.
@@EliminatorPerformance I figure that any that fit are going to do the job.
@@kenhilson786 Likely will but may also break prematurely would have to do a test during the winter but i will stay in the warm shop and let Jake do the testing.
Good day Jake Yes interesting video. Yea hope some one gives price of States shear pins.
U know price of blower was reasonable.
I had to buy 2 christmas tree plastic clip for the pc above my rad on truck CTC 7.60. I thought that was crazy.
Good video. Thanks keep it up.
Yea for Plastic, unbelievable, thanks for watching!
Don thanks you take care buddy and have a great day sir!
@@waynestefinashen239 U too.
I have a 3 year old Husqvarna 227. The first 2 years I broke 0 shear bolts. Theis year, year 3, I have broken 6 shear bolts in 3 storms.. I have hit nothing, they just keep braking.. Any idea why?
i have a 3 yo 1024 S. In the last two weeks I have broken both impeller bolts, at $40 Can !! (my old MTD went 15 yrs and never went wrong) can anyone suggest why ? B & S went bankrupt and getting parts is not easy
Parts aren't cheap, I just quoted a customer $428+ for parts for a B&S snowblower. A cable is $82 it's insane. Friction wheel, you can't buy just the rubber from what I can see, you have to order the entire bearing assembly too, it comes as a friction wheel "kit" for $118
I have this same snow blower and it works fine. The only issue I have is the chute wanders on it's own from the vibration. I keep having to adjust it every 10 seconds. I looked for something to tighten but there is nothing to tighten. Is there anything I can do to make it not wander so much?
I have the same issue, in fact the whole hex rod will fall out of the control gears 3-4x a day. So annoying.
Awesome video
Thanks Rick!
Appreciate your comment sir!
What number is the drive belt on that I have the exact model and the drive belt is so long that it won't even drive the machine
I have just replaced my 20 year old Yardworks blower with this Briggs and Straton snowblower. In 20 years, I had one shear pin break. I don't see any reason to be concerned.
Wow, I wish i would have seen this video before i bought my briggs 1024md I wont make that mistake again,(not looking up cost of parts) prior to buying an item. However as a mechanic i can do my own servicing and repairs. People treat shear pins like fuses, use the proper one or you will have some serious issues, good video
Where about in Canada are you ? My shop is located in Arnprior Ontario.
Port Colborne, Ontario! Nice to see local folks dropping by, considering like 70% of my subscribers are from the US.
@@EliminatorPerformance if I’m ever in port colburn. I’ll drop by and say hello. My shop is called “ Ottawa valley small engine repair “
Great video Eliminator. You need to get more Canadians to support your channel. Come on Canadians... help out!
Yea kind of weird that I'm Canadian and have 75% of my viewers from the US, but I'm not complaining, the US has a much larger population!
Hey, Jake! I tend to do quite a bit of statistical analysis sometimes to understand things better.
Canadian population is 11% of US, so from that perspective you’re doing really well.
I factored in two other metrics to get closer to your 25% number. One was the actual percentage of US who deal with regular snow (about 60%), and tied that to the percentage of snowblowers you work on and do videos on compared to all other non-snow-related equipment. That second metric is what would drive more viewers to you who also deal with that equipment regularly.
If you factor those variables in the 25% you see from Canada probably correlates very closely to the 75% US.
As a side note, I watch dozens of different channels and have them organized in different ways. One of my most efficient ways is to organize by expertise in specific areas. I consider Canadians in general to have more expertise around snowblowers, so you’re first on that list, followed by DONYBOY73 and Steve’s Small Engine. I also like Arch’s Garage, mostly because I identify with him in terms of geographical proximity and age group. Wayne can identify. 😉
Crispr Talk we may need to hire you to promote my sons channel in Canada eh? Thanks for the comment i will be checking out your channel.
@@waynestefinashen239 Huh?
@@Rein_Ciarfella He is a doctor professor basically a joke to his comment. But i did sub to his channel and will be watching some of his videos maybe purchase some of the stocks he feels have major future growth. Looks interesting!
they seem to work good for a cheaper unit! same motor design on lots of different models from around 5hp to about 16hp 24 to 30inch,, the auger pins are a standard size with a cut in it so it shears, don't need to order the expensive ones, amazon has cheap repair kits with bulbs included, carbs lines seals for cheap to change all the near perished parts not just the primmer
That is very short sighted of B&S . The money they make or save now could cost them a life long customer later. I do like Ariens for the money.
The extra money you spend goes to quality parts and equipment forsure!
I didn’t find the parts to be outrageously expensive until you got to the belts.
I hope you removed and measured one of them belts before it went out the door.
Looks like 1/2"x35"
@@EliminatorPerformance that info may save you and the customer some money in tbe future.
@@RussellHoughton already had a 10/24 come in, takes the same belt just 1 instead of 2 and customer used a kevlar 1/2x35 worked perfectly
great , this is a great video food for thought , from grimsby Ontario Canada
Thanks bro
I'll put a grade 5 bolt in the lathe and cut the release before I'll pay %10 a bolt
RH at our hourly rate it only takes just over 4 minutes to blow through $10 Cdn so it is not worth it for us plus the liability factor. Hope it works for you but i might start with a grade 2 and work my way up.
@@waynestefinashen239 I get that but for myself I'm not paying it.
@@RussellHoughton I can understand sir yours likely would work perfectly without destruction of the gear box, provided that the original shear pins or bolts were also grade 5 and not grade 2.
bought the drive belt today for $29.50 CND (including tax) at Canadian tire a 2 pack x2 shear pins (4 in total) for 29.36!! Certified with BS part numbers!!
Wow that's quite the difference, I wasn't aware Canadian tire sold them. I'll have to check them out, thanks!
Great content!
Thanks Jamie!
Very nice of you to say that sir!
Great video. I have a John deere 1028e that is very similar to this machine .I think briggs and Stratton is foolish to gouge they're customer with these ridiculous prices.
Thanks for watching James!
Do you have a snowblower you would recommend?
@@Hexal68 any Ariens Deluxe model or above, simplicity professional series, cub cadet 30max, stay away from the 3 stage stuff
Thank you very much!💪👍🙏
Corporate Greed, the "new" age business model, screw the customer. Thanks for the heads up.
Like i always said every company keeps changing models so you can not use old parts on new machines, it would appear to me that a cable is a cable but there are thousands of them instead of say a standard lower quantity. The worst thing is when everything is on back order and you can not get the part for a month or more.
Are Briggs and Stratton snowthrowers rebranded Simplicity models? That blower would not appear to be. Also, why is that blower so deeply discounted in these times of shortages and inflation? For that kind of money you can't get a Powermore in the States.
Don't forget that's Canadian prices too, so take off 35% and it's a brand new $665 snow blower. I believe the reason these stores are discounting them so heavily, even at a time of increased inflation and the upcoming winter season, is because they've had issues with them, they weren't big sellers, or they're just trying to get rid of them. If you mark off $500, there can't be much of a profit left, and these stores may actually be taking a small loss.
These are all based off of Murray designs. Thus particular model is even the basis of some John Deere and Simplicity machines.
@@EliminatorPerformance and
Ive just been using normal bolts in mine for last 3 norther canada winters dont run over any heavy obstacles and you be fine. My farmer neighbor taught me this. So far so great. At first I went thru 40 dollars worth of actual shear bolts which shear way to easy. 2 to 4 bolts per driveway. Not anymore.
I remember how a small dealer if parts rip me off one time here in Whitby Ontario, about ten years ago sold me a bekt for $70 freaking thief
Yes but again, if you notice my price of $55 and the belt lists for $62 and then shipping, it might have been that price. So it's not us (the dealers) necessarily ripping you off, it's our cost from the manufacturer.
Been there do that, needed a Toro mower blade before we had sources to purchase from and paid $34 Cdn plus tax when the regular price should have be $24 tops.
Good Video, I Live In Australia & We Don't need These Machines Much., But B&S Is Making A Killing At $10 a Bolt. The price Of The Normal V Belts ,That's Ridiculous. You Can Understand The Other Belt being a Bit Dearer...
Thanks for the comment Jon my dad fought side by side with the Aussies during WWII and said they were the greatest fighters in the world. He was with the Canadian Princess Pats Division. His dream was to visit Australia before he passed away but unfortunately he never made it died at 68. Also thanks for subscribing to the channel it helps out.
@@waynestefinashen239 Sorry to hear About your Dad, Too Young To Leave This World. It's a Shame He Never Came Here To Visit It Is One Of The Best Countries In The World. Your Welcome With The Subscription
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It would be really interesting to reverse engineer the shear pins - the calculation of shear force is is more than easy if you know dimensions. The only unknow is material shear stress properties. Once that is e.g. measured on a factory shear pin you can find an equivalent shear pin AND you can even use e.g. standard bolt if the fits an equivalent shear force. At the end of the day the needed jig would be a device to measure shear forces and you would become a MASTER of all shear pins ever produced! 🙂
Right on Li Hu i started out in Closed Die Forging Quality Control and one of my jobs was mechanical testing of materials with one being measuring shear strength of forged and heat treated materials. The machined test pieces are like 1.5 inch long 3/8 inch key stock with a V machined on one edge and we use like a long handled Thor hammer with an angled face to strike the test piece to measure breaking shear strength in ft lbs and % shear fracture.
@@waynestefinashen239 You are probably talking about this: ua-cam.com/video/tpGhqQvftAo/v-deo.html However, that is not testing shear. It is actually bend. I made Charpy hammer test when I was at high school some years ago :)
This is why I learned machining so I can use the stock material and MAKE my own as an owner. I’d wondered about making them, but liability! So only for my self with a nice large/mill combo.
@@bazookamoose7224 Remember, that it's not enough to fit dimensions only, the material properties is the second issue you have to match. That you can find out only by measurements of totally unknown material - the factory shear pin.
Yeah replacement parts are a big part of deciding to buy
Absolutely, and it's not something the average consumer thinks about. Thanks for watching!
Not a lot of people look at that part of buying anything sadly finding out parts cost twice other machines replacement parts. In this case possibly 3x the cost.
@@waynestefinashen239 Wow yeah its not something you hear much on great info for people
Because I am capable of fixing anything on a snow blower, I can have a 1980s Murray as my main machine. But, I saw a 21" 212cc single stage Powersmart on black Friday for $250 with a $50 rebate. Yes, I know, China's finest. But the engine alone is $150 at harbor freight. And at 70+ it's a lot more maneuverable than the old standby with my bad shoulders. Will it be around in 40 years? I doubt it. But the alternatives all seem to be 90% Chinese with American names. Even Toro uses Loncin engines, how bad can it be? Update. It's a good engine the rest, not so much.
Recently ordered two small chute related parts for my B&S 1022EE single stage.
$28 USD= $51+ bit more CAD.
I am wondering, if our Canadian government is really interested in reducing garbage 🗑 in the landfills or just all talks and no substance.
Local hardware store sheer pins. $2,39 each
Wish I had seen this video a year ago! I have already been through several auger shear pins in the first year of ownership. Boo Briggs!
LOL AND keep in mind they will drop replacement parts when ever they desire
Yes, the old "no longer available" gotta love that.
Yep or they are on back order for a month or two.
Those rebranded machines are a Murray from when Briggs absorbed them. I'd look at other machines of the same design to cross-reference parts/prices.
Btw, you misspoke when you said it's 12hp. The 12 is just rounded up from the 11.5 ft. Lbs of torque rating. HP is in the 7.5 range.
Thanks for clarifying, I'll see what I can find. Thanks for watching!
Opps...just bought a 27 with the 1450
Same as I have, if you have the adjustable throttle it's better than having it rev right up to 3600 rpm when cold. You still need to throttle them up when you start them, but you can idle them down to warm up, I find that helps increase their life a bit
@@EliminatorPerformanceyes it has the adjustable throttle. Can't find a parts list for 15/27 for spare shear bolts. Must be a new model?? Thinking 15/30 might be the same shear bolts for spares...sent off a couple emails to Briggs and JDNA.
if it's 11.5 ft lbs of torque then it's not 12hp,but only about 8hp.
Yea who knows, I remember they got sued a while back because their HP ratings were off, so now they go by Torque but then why would they name it a 1227MD lol I guess 11.527MD just didn't sound as good.
@@EliminatorPerformance I assume 12 to go with 12 ft lbs of torque which isn't technically a lie.
HP cannot be measured and because B&S was the first to be sued and lost everyone including B&S lists the torque rating since it can accurately be measured. Thanks for the comment.
Shear pins for the 2021 b&s 1227 at my local hardware store, are an econo 4 pack for $8 . So not bad ,will confirm the rest as I see them.
That's not bad at all, I'm assuming you're in USA? Unfortunately, everything here in Canada has gotten extremely expensive lately... I usually have to tell my customers, this is what it costs me, and this is my list price for you, I'm not making a huge mark up.
@vt1340, which hardware store? Part #? Thx!
I've had this a year now and its crap, I've used it less than 10 times and lost 3 shear bolts and the thrower belt is now squeaking. Also, the machine won't propel itself in wet snow and I adjusted the drive cable twice now and am afraid to tighten any more. You are correct on your assessment of this machine. @@EliminatorPerformance
I guess the moral of the story is don't use your snow blower to move gravel or wood chips.
You got it all wrong. You should be recommending these dogs to help your business! You're too nice!
I make all my money being honest and creating life time customers who will always come back for tune ups and service.
@@EliminatorPerformance Well Jake u are doing a good job Thanks
@@EliminatorPerformance thats clearly the case. Was just messing with you!
I bought the Brute version of this machine in 2010. Absolute trash. This thing would snap shear pins Iike nobody's business. It also lost drive to the wheels at random intervals. I finally got fed up and enlarged the shear pin holes to take MTD pins since I really didnt care if it blew up or not. Oddly enough, it improved the performance of this machine quite a bit. After 12 years it's still doing its job, grudgingly, so I guess I can't be too hard on it. It had me cursing more than once though. I had to chase it down the road one day when the drive platter backed off and wouldn't disengage the wheel drive. This thing needs as much wrenching as an f1 car.
That's unfortunate, and yes I'd probably try to find something that would work. In the 1 part of the video, I installed another set of shear bolts just to test the theory that something else might work.
Funny you point to a runaway snowblower since we just got a unit in that did the same thing but in this case the customer is 95 years old and still does his own snow removal with this old 5/21 Toro snowblower.
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Thanks for watching Pete!
One day we will post a video getting 5 of those Pete
So here's my question. Do you just SCRAP that snow blower because you cannot get shear bolts for it? Where does THAT make sense? Any shear bolt is better than a regular bolt, which is exactly what a home owner would do. Yes mabe you deal with Briggs and work with their parts, but that's no excuse to tell the owner he is flat out screwed because he cannot get a shear bolt that's OEM. Your best bet is to tell the owner to use an after market shear bolt but have them put them in or have them agree you are not liable. As a homeowner, I would rather run it with aftermarket, than having the unit just sit there forever.
No I'm just saying that as a shop if the OEM parts were back ordered, I can't just throw anything in there. I understand what you mean, and I could sell my customer other shear bolts that fit, but they would be the ones installing them, not us. That covers me for liability in the event they hit something and the improper shear bolt was used. That's what I'm getting at in this video. Also, the price of parts is outrageous, and again, the exclusivity. You may also have noticed in the 1 part of the video, I used some other shear bolts and installed them just to see if they'd fit and I'd have a backup in case that happened.
RC Jake is right on as a certified company operation he must install OEM parts or quality equivalents provided these will match up with the OEM parts. Since shear bolts have different shear strengths it is impossible to guarantee an aftermarket would match. Our next door neighbour was breaking shear bolts purchased from his dealer every snowfall, since we have supplied him with a full set of OEM shear bolts to match his machine he has gone two years without issue. We believe he was been sold Chinesium shear bolts.
@@waynestefinashen239 So the snow blower just sits in his shop until those shear bolts arrive? Mabe till spring? I worked for a B@S Dealer that eventually pulled out of B@S because they were screwing him on warrenty work compensation. I have seen several Briggs certified Mechanics pull out of Briggs for that reason. A shop has to be able to make money. Tying up storage space or having equipment taking up space in your shop is not profitable. I would be honest and up front with the owner and give him the option of installing after market equipment. My guess is he will go with that. The OEM parts could be ordered and sent to the customer to install or even have him bring the blower in at a later date using the after market parts. If the blower is beyond its warrenty, there shouldn't even be an issue. Even then, who cares about a worthless warrenty if it expires sitting in a shop waiting on factory parts( yes that has happened). The idea is to make the customer happy and get the equipment fixed and out the door. There are work arounds.
@@scottfirman Customer extremely pleased two days to receive OEM shear bolts and complete service and repair done on his snowblower at EP other places 2 months.
Some good informational video here on this particular briggs and strattion snowblower $20 for the shear bolts wow and most of the expensive parts like buying parts for a high end vehicle . saw shear bolts Mfr #OEM-710-0890 looking up from ace hardware here in the US. probably not the exact one for that model mtd there in this video but it was $6.99 US money.
At 33% exchange that is $9.30 Cdn and if there was 13% tax like here in Canada it would be $10.50 Cdn. out the door. Thanks for that info.
I don't want any of the new junk that coming out
Go safe and get an old Ariens king of snow
Yes definitely, toro is good brand too but nothing beats an Ariens
You got to love capitalism. The land of opportunity at others expense.
This machine looks good, however, it is a pain in the ass to use. The machine is built for left handed people. This is all right if it is the only machine that one uses- as one simply gets use to it. If you operate multiple snow blowers, then it is a pain to adjust to- as the controls are reversed.
I'll stick with my Honda 13HP snowblower.