Most of a loco’s weight is below the walkway. The trucks weigh a bunch. If I remember correctly, we could shed over half the weight by de-trucking and fuel removal before picking w/ a crane.
I worked for GE many years ago, in Memphis. We would be sent to the Atlanta Service Shop often, and they had a locomotive shop in the back. This shop looks similar
Boy, that suckered dropped about a half a foot when they set that V12 in place lol. And that's with no oil or water. It was interesting the watch the back ground also. Where everything was staged, and the 2 other frames being prepped. Thanks for sharing.
GE sucks to work for. In fact, railroading itself is terrible these days. Go into the trades or just go to college. These companies hate paying their employees. Trust me. (10-year railroader making a career change)
No you don't. You want to work in a proper erecting shop where the locomotives are built SIDE BY SIDE. GE made a huge mistake when they gave this plant a linear layout. That's fine for rebuilds where all locomotives proceed through generally the same processes. But for building locomotives in batches, with different configurations and parts that might arrive at different times...well, it's a big, big problem. And they had NO excuse for making this mistake, because the Erie assembly shop, old as it is, had a proper layout for the task.
do you mean GM Locomotive Division? that was part of General Motors diesel division along with GM Defense Division who made LAVs right next door The locomotive plant was bought by GE because they wanted the dynamic braking tech and the 6K HP power pack that GM developed and then closed the plant up right after. Then GM Defense was bought by General Dynamics because they got beat out by the little GM division for a $20 billion defense contract so GD bought the division to get the Stryker 8 X 8 LAV design they lost out too. i worked in the Eng dept in both plants. GD sucks to work for.....heads up
I thought GE was moving locomotive production from its historic plant in Erie to Texas and was to close down Erie eventually. When EMD was sold off by GM to Caterpillar, they closed down and moved the massive locomotive works from London, Ontario to Indiana and warned workers at its plant in Illinois not to expect pay raises, but pay cuts as a warning. This is the true problem with free trade and the free market economy - the average working stiff gets shafted while the top few executives get rich on the hard work of all the workers on the plant floor.
Totally agree, my concerns about NAFTA in the 80’s definitely came to fruition. Especially the impact these agreements and globalization in general would have on the middle class in Canada. While I don’t believe Canada had much of a choice due to geopolitical pressures and our relatively small economy compared to our main trading partners, it was a “join or be left behind”. Southern Ontario manufacturing and production 2:22 has been decimated as a result. The London GM Diesel facility is just another on very long list of casualties.
well deniz....how many poor people have you worked for. the problem with free market is that YOU the consumer want the world and you don't want to pay for it. that is why everything is made in china. slave labor and YOU are paying for it. O.o
@@davewallace8219 Actually if you read your history, NAFTA was formulated by Reagan, the most anti-middle class US president in in my lifetime. It was finally signed by Clinton because……like all politicians, they only care about themselves and power. They literally are all the same. Fronting a system for the extreme wealthy. I’m no sucker for any political group. The middle class was established and gained power from the early 60’s and globalization established its hooks in the early 90’s to take away the benefits gained by labour in the previous 3 decades. I’m a university educated engineer who has had a very successful career and am very fortunate to live the freedom 55 life however I know that I was extremely fortunate to live at a lime when this was possible for a person like myself.
@@Maniacguy2777 ok, so apparently I was way off. Its 420,000 lbs, which is about 210 metric tons. Sorry, I got off work and have worked 72 hours this week. I just went what memory was in my head, but yeah, i was wrong. We never really look at the weight of the engines since we don't use it for anything. Sorry for having misinformed you
More US-made components in these things than China-made components. Pretty hard to make anything totally 0% China content anymore. The diesel engines (prime movers) are built in Grove City, Pa., barely an hour down the road from Erie.
Does anyone have context for this video? Where is this shop located? What exactly are they building? I know it's a GE locomotive, but what model? How long does it take to produce one, and how many does this shop produce in a year?
This is so cool. Did anyone else see how much the unit squatted once the diesel engine was sat in place? That's a lot of weight just in the engine.
Most of a loco’s weight is below the walkway. The trucks weigh a bunch. If I remember correctly, we could shed over half the weight by de-trucking and fuel removal before picking w/ a crane.
well it is the engine so..
@Coléoptère shit
Yeah that engine is a big ole boie for sure
What I’m the hot fuck are you on about?
I worked for GE many years ago, in Memphis. We would be sent to the Atlanta Service Shop often, and they had a locomotive shop in the back. This shop looks similar
Boy, that suckered dropped about a half a foot when they set that V12 in place lol. And that's with no oil or water. It was interesting the watch the back ground also. Where everything was staged, and the 2 other frames being prepped. Thanks for sharing.
I've wanted to work in a locomotive plant like this my whole life.
Me too.
Me 3.
GE sucks to work for. In fact, railroading itself is terrible these days. Go into the trades or just go to college. These companies hate paying their employees. Trust me. (10-year railroader making a career change)
No you don't. You want to work in a proper erecting shop where the locomotives are built SIDE BY SIDE. GE made a huge mistake when they gave this plant a linear layout. That's fine for rebuilds where all locomotives proceed through generally the same processes. But for building locomotives in batches, with different configurations and parts that might arrive at different times...well, it's a big, big problem.
And they had NO excuse for making this mistake, because the Erie assembly shop, old as it is, had a proper layout for the task.
Seeing that chassis squat when the diesel was installed made the video.
Great educational video record. Good camera work too. Thanks for sharing with us!
Still looking, huh? 😉
seeing those bridge cranes work makes me feel so good i wish i could work exactly this
idk why but I’m imagining the home depot theme while watching this
Now I'm envious. What are those cranes rated at?
POV the teacher says: no making locomotives! Me in the Back:
Yep
Is this Webtec in Texas or Erie, Pa?
Imagine in late 1800’s they made steam engines bigger than this and no nice overhead cranes.
By the time they were making the big trains they had overheads.
Crewe Works was, arguably, a better implementation of the linear erecting shop layout.
Teacher: no building locomotives in class!
The kids in the back:
How long did this actually take?
putting on the back first means youre exceedingly confiend that the middle will fit exactly. thats, bold.
RIP, GE Locomotive Division. Who bought this division, or was it just buried?
do you mean GM Locomotive Division? that was part of General Motors diesel division along with GM Defense Division who made LAVs right next door The locomotive plant was bought by GE because they wanted the dynamic braking tech and the 6K HP power pack that GM developed and then closed the plant up right after. Then GM Defense was bought by General Dynamics because they got beat out by the little GM division for a $20 billion defense contract so GD bought the division to get the Stryker 8 X 8 LAV design they lost out too. i worked in the Eng dept in both plants. GD sucks to work for.....heads up
Video was very good
The only thing missing is to see the engine fire up and catch on fire like ALL G E 's locomotives do!
Nice video raiway
Very cool - whats the service life of these engines? Thanks.
Usually locomotives last for 25 years, a little longer depending on if the railroad rebuilds them.
Varies by locomotive. GE tend to have a shorter lifespan than EMD.
This is in erie pa, ge has sence moved to texas, however they still make locomotive under the name wabtec
No, this is Texas. The Erie assembly plant has a proper side by side layout.
That is a weird looking airplane!
Very good video.
My brother worked his whole life at the Erie plant.
How GEVOs were produced:
1:04 Lunch time!
I thought GE was moving locomotive production from its historic plant in Erie to Texas and was to close down Erie eventually. When EMD was sold off by GM to Caterpillar, they closed down and moved the massive locomotive works from London, Ontario to Indiana and warned workers at its plant in Illinois not to expect pay raises, but pay cuts as a warning. This is the true problem with free trade and the free market economy - the average working stiff gets shafted while the top few executives get rich on the hard work of all the workers on the plant floor.
Totally agree, my concerns about NAFTA in the 80’s definitely came to fruition. Especially the impact these agreements and globalization in general would have on the middle class in Canada. While I don’t believe Canada had much of a choice due to geopolitical pressures and our relatively small economy compared to our main trading partners, it was a “join or be left behind”. Southern Ontario manufacturing and production 2:22 has been decimated as a result. The London GM Diesel facility is just another on very long list of casualties.
@@blistery1875 nafta= bill clinton...Ross perot warned us
well deniz....how many poor people have you worked for. the problem with free market is that YOU the consumer want the world and you don't want to pay for it. that is why everything is made in china. slave labor and YOU are paying for it. O.o
They changed their minds.
@@davewallace8219 Actually if you read your history, NAFTA was formulated by Reagan, the most anti-middle class US president in in my lifetime. It was finally signed by Clinton because……like all politicians, they only care about themselves and power. They literally are all the same. Fronting a system for the extreme wealthy. I’m no sucker for any political group. The middle class was established and gained power from the early 60’s and globalization established its hooks in the early 90’s to take away the benefits gained by labour in the previous 3 decades. I’m a university educated engineer who has had a very successful career and am very fortunate to live the freedom 55 life however I know that I was extremely fortunate to live at a lime when this was possible for a person like myself.
Would like to see completion!
I wonder how much a welder makes there
Watching this made me realize it's just a giant truck.
Technically no, it works completely different than a diesel truck
Are american freight locomotives still in production here?
Thats what I'm wondering, idk if they move out of the country or not, too.
@@JonC341 GE does locomotive assembly in Erie, Pennsylvania.
Yeah I work at the same place they assemble them just right across the avenue! Right here in Erie Pennsylvania
@@benpituch1750 do you see locomotives such as rebuilt AC44's and tier 4 ET44's?
Nice video
How much does that engine weigh in tons?
205 tons.
@@BLDR_2023. that's the weight of 50 cars
Last time I looked at the weight when I was on a locomotive I think it was 285,000 lbs. Converted to metric tons is 129 metric tons.
@@opiumextract2934 A single locomotive?
@@Maniacguy2777 ok, so apparently I was way off. Its 420,000 lbs, which is about 210 metric tons. Sorry, I got off work and have worked 72 hours this week. I just went what memory was in my head, but yeah, i was wrong. We never really look at the weight of the engines since we don't use it for anything. Sorry for having misinformed you
The way they assemble it makes me imagine it breaking apart like lego bricks if it fell over
Too bad they don't make these anymore
Is this a tier 4 locomotive
Tier 3 es44c4
It’s going to bnsf
Tier 4 didn't exist then.
I want one.
Sweet!
Is it a P32?
It’s an es44ac
Can someone play the King of the Hill intro pls?
What parts come from China?
So I assume all the parts come from China and Mexico and they're just put together here. Now I understand made in China assembled in America
More US-made components in these things than China-made components. Pretty hard to make anything totally 0% China content anymore. The diesel engines (prime movers) are built in Grove City, Pa., barely an hour down the road from Erie.
@@stanpatterson5033 yeah 1/3 comes from China 1/3 comes from Mexico in the paint was made in America....
@@stanpatterson5033 well yea I think the last thing you’d want is an engine from China LOL
...so...
Does anyone have context for this video? Where is this shop located? What exactly are they building? I know it's a GE locomotive, but what model? How long does it take to produce one, and how many does this shop produce in a year?
Its in erie pa, ge moved to texas like seven years ago, they still make locos there under wabtec