Roland Verselab MV-1: Resampling
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2024
- Today we'll discuss the basics of resampling. What is it? How does it work? What are its limitations?
In future videos we'll discuss how to use this technique on Vocal Takes, Looper tracks, and with effect stacking.
As always, apologies in advance, my seizure disorder means I'm unable to edit these videos, and have to finish them in a single take. This does tend to cause errors and incomplete thoughts, at times, please comment if you'd like more details.
You can always find me at LeRoy3rd.com, or hanging out in the Verselab groups on Facebook. Thank you for your support and encouragement.
Thank you for all the videos you made for the Verselab MV-1.
I've got many more planned. 😊
Hi brother that info about making longer songs then only 16 sections is brand new and EPIC for me!! Thanks for the Video..
We're still limited to 16 unique sections, which, for many styles of music is more than enough. There are certain genres, though, that really benefit from being able to extend the length, especially when being able to add vocal takes... it should also be noted that another way to use this to add variation beyond 16 sections (on top of vocal takes) is to use live input while doing the mixdown (line in and mic input is recorded in the mixdown), and, something I hadn't considered previously, you could, say, make 16 really dense sections, and while the mixdown is recording, you could mute and unmute tracks to change what's being played in real time. Perhaps not all that useful, but it does give more options for experimentation. 🙂
Thank you again Leroy for the awesome video!!!. I was just concerned because you doesn't uploaded for some time despite your neurological issue...Anyway I hope you doing well and we as a little community on the verselab we are here for the next videos.
I didn't knew about the solo function 🙂
Thanks for thinking of me. 😊 Things have been a bit rough here, and they're still pretty unstable, but I'm *hoping* to have another video next week (on Vocal Takes).
Hi Leroy, Thanks for the wonderful videos you have created. This one is especially good. I amassed Roland does nothing to document this information. The MV 1 is a really great box, but Roland drops the ball on this. The MV 1 has so much going for it . Thanks so much for sharing.
Thanks for the Verselab info! Subbed.
Thanks, that is encouraging. I have more than half a dozen new videos outlined (including some project-based instruction!), but aside from my physical and neuro limitations, I'm also having much difficulty getting motivated to *make* the videos. Thanks for joining us on this journey (and if you haven't joined the verselab Facebook groups, definitely do that, the people there are really helpful).
Thanks Leroy. Very useful and practical
Great to see you back Leroy! Great video.
Thanks 😁 Hope to make more soon.
Great video. Resampling the tracks is soooo useful and powerful in many ways. Can you do a video recording the stems over usb into a daw?
I do intend to make a video showing how to use the audio and midi tracks to record live into a DAW, but with my neurological problems being in front of a screen, I'm not sure how yet. Before we get there, though, I plan to cover the rest of the on-device features of the verselab.
The basic functions can be divided by the type of USB driver you're using on the verselab. In the SYSTEM menu you can select generic or vendor as the USB driver on the verselab. Generic will allow midi and 2 tracks of audio (the mixout). The bad news about this is that it's just one stereo signal, the good news is it uses standard class compliant USB, so no driver is needed, and even most cell phones can use this.
Vendor turns the verselab into an audio interface, but requires OS specific drivers (that you get from Roland's site). The advantage is, you can record, in real time, all audio tracks, simultaneously (20 tracks!).
When using either of these, you'll have to select MV-1 in your DAW as the audio source, and all audio will then go through the verselab (you'll have to listen using the headphone or audio out from the verselab itself).
Leroy made another Verselab video! 😎🙏🏻
Very helpful 🙏🏿 thanks for this
there should be a quick shift default mode when import samples to a pad - a SP303 like play where you dont have to waste so much time maxing the Delaya offset etc and having to record or set the max length of the sample.
Hi ! Please forgive me if I overlooked something you mentionned in the video ! Did you try to use the exported samples in the vocal track ? This way, you can overdub over existing sections and kinda work around the 16 sections limit ? This is also the reason why I'll probably keep a synth next to it (a Minifreak) although I'm more than happy with the Zen Core engine. This way I can duplicate existing sections in song mode and add layers as vocals in some occurences of those sections. (6 mins stereo or 12 mins mono)
Another obvious way to have longer songs is to reduce the tempo and change the time signature of sequences. It's tiny little bit annoying we have to use workarounds while they could have easily added "pages" of 16 sections.
I feel the Verselab would just need one additional update to be perfect :) I'm a huge noob but the Verselab is the first piece of gear with which I actually managed to complete a song :)
Thanks so much for your videos, take care !
On the verselab there are two pools of memory. One is shared by looper tracks, and the sampling engine. This memory only allows 63 seconds of recording, total, and always outputs a stereo file.
The other pool of memory is what's used for the samples on a kit track, or a sample in a tone track, AND vocal takes. This is the segment of memory that allows up to 6 minutes of stereo, or 12 minutes of mono.
@@LeRoy3rd Yep, thanks for the answer ! My question was, can you use the resampling engine, export, and then import the resulting file in the vocal track memory pool and overdub above existing sections ? Well, that's time consuming too, but could be a way of working around the 16 scenes limitation... Thanks !!
@@Mahenounet Oh, I see. Yes, this is called resampling, and it's used a LOT to overcome limitations on the verselab. So, for instance, say you have four different parts as vocal takes, taking up 4 of the 16 available vocal takes. You definitely could then resample those four takes into one. The same with, for instance, audio in different pads in a kit track. This is also the only way to stack effects on the verselab. Since we only get one effect per clip, if you want multiple effects you have to resample over and over with different effects.
cool
Hey, may I ask another noobish question ? :) When recording from an external synth into the vocal track, is it more relevant to use the MV-1 reverb and apply it the vocal track (but as the reverb settings are global, it means I cannot set a very long delay trail). -- Also should I use the "Dry" or "MFX" settings on the recording ? Or is it more relevant to have a H/W reverb between the synth and the MV-1 ? Thank you so much !
So, first, the great thing about the vocal track, and vocal takes, is, you're not limited to sections, vocal takes go over the top of sections, so, if you wanted a long reverb tail, that didn't stop when a section ended, this is definitely the way to do it. The best reason to use an external reverb would be if you had something that you liked the sound of better than the ones included with the verselab. Honestly the reverbs on the verselab are... fine, but there are definitely prettier hardware options.
As far as dry vs mfx goes, there are several things about the vocal track that are relevant here. First, you get ONE effect for the entire track, all vocal takes share this one effect. Per vocal take you can decide if a specific vocal take uses the effect or not (dry vs mfx), but they all share the one effect. This is the same limitation for other tracks, each track/clip can only have one effect. The other option you have with vocal takes is the vocal processor. Again, you only get one effect from the vocal processor, but you decide which vocal takes use it. This means, practically, that you may need to mute all but one vocal take (NOTE+PAD mutes/unmutes a vocal take) then resample it with the effect, then replace the original with the new recording. This will allow different effects per vocal take, but takes a bit of extra work, and now the effect is permanent, in the audio file.
Finally, the reverbs and delays that you can use are shared by ALL tracks. You can specify how MUCH (send volume) each clip or vocal take uses, but you can't have different reverbs and delays for each track. This is one other reason you may want external hardware for some specialized effects. At the end of the day the reverb and delay on the versleab is meant to be for the song, to glue the tracks together with shared effects to help it sound cohesive, and like it's all in one physical space.
Wow, THAT was helpful ! Thank you !
Your last sentence really makes me think. Indeed, have several reverb spaces superimposed might lead to a less coherent track !
I really have to practise the resampling feature.
Thanks again !
(Followup)
I'll try to stick to minimalism as initially intended as not fall into the GAS trap but learn to master my synth and my mv-1 :) thx !
@@Mahenounet Every hardware has limitations, once you get comfortable with the quirks of the verselab, and lean into what it does well, you'll find that there's a lot of freedom, but you'll have to approach some problems differently than you would on software (or other hardware). Don't get discouraged, or give up, keep at it and the Verselab will reward you. 😊
Thanks ! Yep I am convinced this single piece of gear is what I needed to get things done. First time actually finished a song, ever, ahah !
Now what counts is : focus !
Thanks for the advice :)
Hi
Please take your hands off the screen. It's impossible to watch your videos.
Ill skip on buying that piece