0:30 Using the wall to rotate: I used to do that!!!! That is how I got started! I've never seen anyone teach that, I thought I invented it. I had forgotten about that!
3:25 that's a good point about the lower center of gravity and I hadn't thought about that, but another benefit of staying down and keeping your knees bent until longer into the spin is that it really helps you stay off the toe picks somehow. I was actually in rehearsal for Herr Drosslemeyer and had a two foot spin in my routine and rehearsal was not going well. Coach Katie broke ranks and did the shocking action of giving me free advice and advised me to "stay down in the knees" and it made an immediate and dramatic improvement in my ability.
"A bit wobbly....." LOL. You know when my two footed spin is great! When I show someone how to do it. If some public skater comes up to my during the session and asks me to show them, I say sure, you just pump your right foot to skate in a circle, pump pump pump, and the gliiiiiiiide. When I show someone that, when I get to the "glide" part, my two foot spin is as smooth as silk and is never better than that, because I'm doing it with no voltage. As soon as that person goes away and I keep practicing on my own it totally falls apart.
Paul, I am writing this comment before I watch the video. I just came here to say that if this video is anything like your other videos, it will be the best, most detailed, most well thought out, most helpful, most amazing ice skating video ever!!!!! I can't wait to watch it...speaking of which.
This is the most thorough two-foot spin tutorial I’ve seen! Thank you! My two-foot spin was not that solid when I started learning one-foot spin. It’s been over three years and I’m still struggling. I’ll practice two-foot to get a better sense of balancing on the right spot. Somehow at the end of the entry edge when the LFO three turn happens, my left blade tends to wobble or shift. I don’t know how to describe it more precisely. Anyhow, I just have trouble establishing the sense of really balancing on my left foot with my arms out.
Find the sweet spot on your left foot on a bent knee and rise up, you’ll feel how you can keep it there 👍🏼 sweet spot is a gentle tickle on the first toe pick and rocker (2 points of contact) Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
Thank you for your breakdown! Your description, demonstrations and video captures are very clear. I've been trying two foot spins forever but was never explained the foot positions. Also building up skills starting with helicopter spins and a lower position are so helpful. Can't wait to try your coaching tips on the ice!
@@MDMarck1401 Mucho gusto. Saludos de Houston, Texas. Hemos tenido algunos invitados de Mexico patinando con nosotros aqui, entrenando con nuestro maestras. Aqui tenemos buena musica, estilo Sinaloa...jijiji. Verdad....me gusta! La Banda Arrolladora "El Limon."
Gracias. Patinando en hielo desde 2019 como hoby mis rutinas son más como la música de Lorena mckennıt y Josh Groban. Saludos. Atentamente @@TheLarryBrown
Thanks for another helpful video!! I came back to rink after months and i'm struggling with centering these days😅 this video will def help. I have a question tho, is there a good exercise for deeper outside edge? I don't know if it's my weak muscle or boots, but i have a hard time leaning outwards on my left foot. Again, thanks for the videos!! Support from korea 🇰🇷
@@jorgeduarte5233 I know right? To this Texan (Texas, USA), Paul's refined accent sounds so cute and charming. Instead of saying "water," he says "watah." He usually shoots his video straight and doesn't try to be funny but in this one he plays around a little and he even plays with the accent once and says "wateeeer," I can't remember what word he said. I'm surprised you are attune to English accents, I guess you speak English well. You wanna talk about charming, I'm sure you know the famous Brazilian singer Roberto Carlos. I like to listen to him sing in Portuguese and if I know the song in Spanish I like to think I can follow along in Portuguese. Mostly I listen to him in Spanish and he has a Portuguese accent and it's majorly charming. So, we all agree, Paul is amazing.
That is great tips, Paul. I wish and more of these examples when I started. I am teaching learn to skate, and I it is okay, I would love to use your methods. One thing that I wanted to ask you is, for adults, it is a little harder to trust, and the straight legs are hard to bend. How do you help adults to bend more, and the kids tonslow down?
Kids slowing down just need reminding, make a big deal when they do slow down so they feel rewarded to repeat the calmer entry. Adults bending knee, you could get them to do a gliding dip in a straight line first, encourage more bend in that before you spin. If they tell you they’re bending, show them the video of their spin, usually they feel they bend more than they actually are… hope that hekps
Usually starting to spin early is the issue for travel, you need to try and let the spin anchor itself with a good press over a pivot point before you start to spin, try using the pivot entry or on the spot entry… Another reason for travel if it happens after the entry is just not being aligned, sometimes the shoulders and hips aren’t level (parallel with the ice) so that’s worth checking also 👍🏼
i just realized that you are doing lots of spin in a video (even before you cut it) and i wonder how do you deal with dizziness ? I spin once or twice and I feel like the world is ending lol.
It’s definitely something you get used to the more you do! If your eyes stay level it’s easier to avoid dizziness. I find movement of the head in any spin is what creates more dizziness even after you are used to it.
1:55 another beginner way popularly taught is a "marching" entrance where you stand and march in a rotation and then spin. That never really worked for me. For me the best was pushing on the wall.
Paul, I am trying to watch the video but I couldn't do it. I am worried about paying bills, and I have to run some errands that I am trying to not think about, and I carved out some "me time" at the coffee shop but my wife told me to fix the brakes on the car and when I get home she wants me to show her the Italian part numbers that I looked up, and my phone is running out of battery and I hate that. I tried to ignore all those distractions and concentrate on the video but I couldn't do it so I have to watch later because I don't want to miss any of it.
1:30 I don't like the "pivot" entry. First off, doing a pivot is not easy. You have to watch a video on that and practice and work it up, but we're supposed to be working on two foot spin. Bleah. Then whenever I try to do that pivot, all I do is keep skating in circles and gouge a giant sink hole in the ice. And finally, a key challange to learning two foot spin is learning how not to spin on the left toe and instead how to make that left foot skate in backwards circles, and the pivot is not teaching you that. On the contray, it's teaching you to spin on the toe and that's bad.
The pivot entry teaches an “axis” theory to spinning, eventually setting you up for one foot. 👍🏼 agreed the toe pick is not where we want to spin; although this seasons rules state as a feature to a spin you can spend time on your toe pick or heel to gain extra points!! So now we are trying it 😂 (only with our very experienced skaters mind)
0:30 Using the wall to rotate: I used to do that!!!! That is how I got started! I've never seen anyone teach that, I thought I invented it. I had forgotten about that!
3:25 that's a good point about the lower center of gravity and I hadn't thought about that, but another benefit of staying down and keeping your knees bent until longer into the spin is that it really helps you stay off the toe picks somehow. I was actually in rehearsal for Herr Drosslemeyer and had a two foot spin in my routine and rehearsal was not going well. Coach Katie broke ranks and did the shocking action of giving me free advice and advised me to "stay down in the knees" and it made an immediate and dramatic improvement in my ability.
"A bit wobbly....." LOL. You know when my two footed spin is great! When I show someone how to do it. If some public skater comes up to my during the session and asks me to show them, I say sure, you just pump your right foot to skate in a circle, pump pump pump, and the gliiiiiiiide. When I show someone that, when I get to the "glide" part, my two foot spin is as smooth as silk and is never better than that, because I'm doing it with no voltage. As soon as that person goes away and I keep practicing on my own it totally falls apart.
Paul, I am writing this comment before I watch the video. I just came here to say that if this video is anything like your other videos, it will be the best, most detailed, most well thought out, most helpful, most amazing ice skating video ever!!!!! I can't wait to watch it...speaking of which.
Thanks, Paul, for the exhaustive explanation.
Now, on my way to try some of the tips, to make my 2FS better... 😂
Yes Peter 🙌🏻 hope it goes well!
This is the most thorough two-foot spin tutorial I’ve seen! Thank you! My two-foot spin was not that solid when I started learning one-foot spin. It’s been over three years and I’m still struggling. I’ll practice two-foot to get a better sense of balancing on the right spot. Somehow at the end of the entry edge when the LFO three turn happens, my left blade tends to wobble or shift. I don’t know how to describe it more precisely. Anyhow, I just have trouble establishing the sense of really balancing on my left foot with my arms out.
Find the sweet spot on your left foot on a bent knee and rise up, you’ll feel how you can keep it there 👍🏼 sweet spot is a gentle tickle on the first toe pick and rocker (2 points of contact)
Thanks for the comment 👍🏼
I'm a rollerskater and I do heel toe spins really easily but struggle with toe toe so thanks for this I feel less liek a failure lol!
Happy to help!
Coach paul thank you for this tutorial. . The effort is greatly appreciated
Hope it helped! How’s your spin going??
Thank you for your breakdown! Your description, demonstrations and video captures are very clear. I've been trying two foot spins forever but was never explained the foot positions. Also building up skills starting with helicopter spins and a lower position are so helpful. Can't wait to try your coaching tips on the ice!
Great I appreciate it! Let me know how it goes!
Gracias, 😊 saludos desde la Ciudad de México 👍🧠📝⛸💫
@@MDMarck1401 Mucho gusto. Saludos de Houston, Texas. Hemos tenido algunos invitados de Mexico patinando con nosotros aqui, entrenando con nuestro maestras. Aqui tenemos buena musica, estilo Sinaloa...jijiji. Verdad....me gusta! La Banda Arrolladora "El Limon."
Gracias. Patinando en hielo desde 2019 como hoby mis rutinas son más como la música de Lorena mckennıt y Josh Groban. Saludos. Atentamente
@@TheLarryBrown
Best spin tutorial I’ve seen!! Thank you so much!!
Wow, thanks!
Thanks for another helpful video!! I came back to rink after months and i'm struggling with centering these days😅 this video will def help.
I have a question tho, is there a good exercise for deeper outside edge? I don't know if it's my weak muscle or boots, but i have a hard time leaning outwards on my left foot.
Again, thanks for the videos!! Support from korea 🇰🇷
thank you Paul
You're so cute listening to, i've learned a lot from you i wish I lived in England, greetings from portugal ;-)
Thanks for watching!
@@jorgeduarte5233 I know right? To this Texan (Texas, USA), Paul's refined accent sounds so cute and charming.
@@jorgeduarte5233 I know right? To this Texan (Texas, USA), Paul's refined accent sounds so cute and charming. Instead of saying "water," he says "watah." He usually shoots his video straight and doesn't try to be funny but in this one he plays around a little and he even plays with the accent once and says "wateeeer," I can't remember what word he said. I'm surprised you are attune to English accents, I guess you speak English well. You wanna talk about charming, I'm sure you know the famous Brazilian singer Roberto Carlos. I like to listen to him sing in Portuguese and if I know the song in Spanish I like to think I can follow along in Portuguese. Mostly I listen to him in Spanish and he has a Portuguese accent and it's majorly charming. So, we all agree, Paul is amazing.
This video helped me so much, thank you!
Thank you 🤩 how’s is your two foot spin going?
That is great tips, Paul. I wish and more of these examples when I started. I am teaching learn to skate, and I it is okay, I would love to use your methods. One thing that I wanted to ask you is, for adults, it is a little harder to trust, and the straight legs are hard to bend. How do you help adults to bend more, and the kids tonslow down?
Kids slowing down just need reminding, make a big deal when they do slow down so they feel rewarded to repeat the calmer entry.
Adults bending knee, you could get them to do a gliding dip in a straight line first, encourage more bend in that before you spin. If they tell you they’re bending, show them the video of their spin, usually they feel they bend more than they actually are… hope that hekps
Brilliant help 🙂
Thanks for your video. If I travels a lot when i spin, what’s the problem here? Thanks!
Usually starting to spin early is the issue for travel, you need to try and let the spin anchor itself with a good press over a pivot point before you start to spin, try using the pivot entry or on the spot entry…
Another reason for travel if it happens after the entry is just not being aligned, sometimes the shoulders and hips aren’t level (parallel with the ice) so that’s worth checking also 👍🏼
@@iskatecoach thanks for your detailed explanation!!
i just realized that you are doing lots of spin in a video (even before you cut it) and i wonder how do you deal with dizziness ? I spin once or twice and I feel like the world is ending lol.
It’s definitely something you get used to the more you do! If your eyes stay level it’s easier to avoid dizziness. I find movement of the head in any spin is what creates more dizziness even after you are used to it.
1:55 another beginner way popularly taught is a "marching" entrance where you stand and march in a rotation and then spin. That never really worked for me. For me the best was pushing on the wall.
Paul, I am trying to watch the video but I couldn't do it. I am worried about paying bills, and I have to run some errands that I am trying to not think about, and I carved out some "me time" at the coffee shop but my wife told me to fix the brakes on the car and when I get home she wants me to show her the Italian part numbers that I looked up, and my phone is running out of battery and I hate that. I tried to ignore all those distractions and concentrate on the video but I couldn't do it so I have to watch later because I don't want to miss any of it.
Maaaaaan, I wanted to be the first comment here.
😂 hope it helped you Larry 👍🏼
1:30 I don't like the "pivot" entry. First off, doing a pivot is not easy. You have to watch a video on that and practice and work it up, but we're supposed to be working on two foot spin. Bleah. Then whenever I try to do that pivot, all I do is keep skating in circles and gouge a giant sink hole in the ice. And finally, a key challange to learning two foot spin is learning how not to spin on the left toe and instead how to make that left foot skate in backwards circles, and the pivot is not teaching you that. On the contray, it's teaching you to spin on the toe and that's bad.
The pivot entry teaches an “axis” theory to spinning, eventually setting you up for one foot. 👍🏼 agreed the toe pick is not where we want to spin; although this seasons rules state as a feature to a spin you can spend time on your toe pick or heel to gain extra points!! So now we are trying it 😂 (only with our very experienced skaters mind)