Thank you kind sir for this video. I bought the Wheeler level system and used it per your instructions here. I have a FX Crown MK2 GRS and a FX Dreamline Tact Compact, and I had no idea that the scopes were not completely level till I checked them with the Wheeler. I started the process from the beginning and it was very easy to get things right this time. I'm glad I found your video and I'm glad I spent the money for the Wheeler kit. I'm a subscriber. Thanks again.
Rotate the turret 90 degrees, chances are it will not remain level. The mechanics of the turret are not perfectly square with the reticle or base of the scope. In the example shown the top cap is ovate in shape, it is not even flat, the level is resting on one point. Do what you want, I simply hang a plumb line at 25 or 50 yards and align the reticle to it after leveling the rifle, gravity works every time.
Caveat. If you look at the bubblelevel that is placed on the cap, you will notice it has 2 grooves cut into the base. Those grooves can be set by small screws. Thus the level can be adjusted to a accurate level. I have found that it may show level but once rotated 180°, it is not level and needed fine tuning.
I really appreciate you taking your time and effort in making these types of videos. I find them very interesting and educational, I've learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work 👏.
There's a really simple and very accurate method. Loosely mount the scope, get a rectangular brass bar, mines about 1"X 0.25". Put it at right angles between the pic rail and the flat section underneath the scope where the turrets are, rotate the bar along its long axis so that it touches and fills the gap between scope and pic rail and check for gaps. If the scope is just loose then it usually takes just a gentle twist of the scope to ensure its all aligned. Simples.
How do you know if first level (the one that is on the rail) is properly leveled? I notice there are adjustment screws which can suggest the level is not true level. Ps. Sorry for bad English.
The most problem is all airguns come with 11mm dovetail, mostly all grate scope suitable for picatinny rings and rails.. its a grate option if they design 2 rails for each pcp or let the customers chosen the rifle with dovetail or picatinny rail ..
Hi Giles. Awesome video as always. I got a question about the grip you are using with the saber tactical bag rider, is it an ergo grip and if yes which model? And are you going to offer grips for sale on AirGun101Shop?
@3:05 manufacturers do not guarantee turrets are level with the scope. they don't even guarantee it's level with the flat surfaces. only leupold guarantees the machined bottom will be level.
Not all crosshairs are perfectly lined up with the turrets. I've seen scopes over a grand have this problem. Use a straight edge (i use index card) and the center of the receiver and vertical part of the cross hair. Much more reliable than the bubble level method. Was shown this by a very old long distance shooter. Scope caps and turrets aren't precise.
This is so easy to do by just sighting down the rifle. If you try it you would see how easy it is to get in the "ball park" thanks for the video though. Love the precision
You should always try and use the underside of the turret because that is flat, I guarantee you the top it will not be level if you turn it through 90° or whatever.. I use a level I’m a piece of flat tool steel..👍
tuned out in the first 20 seconds and gave a thumbs down. A canted scope will affect any adjustments when adjusting the vertical and horizontal using the turrets since they will be traveling at an angle. It will not affect group size in any way. Just ask anyone who has ever shot a Smallbore or Palma rifle with an adjustable cant buttplate
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Finally, a straightforward explanation! Thank you for the precise details.
This is 100% the best description of how to use this tool that I have yet come across. Presentation and details of setup are key.
This is the best explained video for this on UA-cam. Cheers
The best one to explain is you. Thank you, my friend
Very simple explanation. Thank you.
This is the best way to mount a scope. I've done it at least 10 times. Excellent.
Thank you kind sir for this video. I bought the Wheeler level system and used it per your instructions here. I have a FX Crown MK2 GRS and a FX Dreamline Tact Compact, and I had no idea that the scopes were not completely level till I checked them with the Wheeler. I started the process from the beginning and it was very easy to get things right this time. I'm glad I found your video and I'm glad I spent the money for the Wheeler kit. I'm a subscriber. Thanks again.
Rotate the turret 90 degrees, chances are it will not remain level. The mechanics of the turret are not perfectly square with the reticle or base of the scope. In the example shown the top cap is ovate in shape, it is not even flat, the level is resting on one point. Do what you want, I simply hang a plumb line at 25 or 50 yards and align the reticle to it after leveling the rifle, gravity works every time.
Does the surface your placing the firearm on have to be level? And does the gun have to be level before adding the scope to align with the plumb line?
Caveat. If you look at the bubblelevel that is placed on the cap, you will notice it has 2 grooves cut into the base. Those grooves can be set by small screws. Thus the level can be adjusted to a accurate level. I have found that it may show level but once rotated 180°, it is not level and needed fine tuning.
and been to my local range and it has improved getting tighter groups and all my rifles are done , and its good to see how far your eyes are out
Excellent training and explanation👍🏼
Super helpful tutorial, thank you! Just used this to level my Vepr scope. :D
I use the kind of level goes between the scope and the receiver and levels from the bottom of the turret housing.
what a nice blog...it helps for me a lot for how to properly mount the scope...i love it...thanks sir for sharing your expertise....♥️♥️♥️
Great tutorial Giles, next do one on how to use the turrets and which way to turn them, I've seen loads not knowing how to do this.
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I really appreciate you taking your time and effort in making these types of videos. I find them very interesting and educational, I've learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work 👏.
Looks like a process of success
There's a really simple and very accurate method. Loosely mount the scope, get a rectangular brass bar, mines about 1"X 0.25". Put it at right angles between the pic rail and the flat section underneath the scope where the turrets are, rotate the bar along its long axis so that it touches and fills the gap between scope and pic rail and check for gaps. If the scope is just loose then it usually takes just a gentle twist of the scope to ensure its all aligned. Simples.
So how do you level a budget scope with an unlevel turrent?
Well presented and informative as usual Giles👍🏼
great video Giles and it works
Very helpful. Thank you!
Hi Giles have u ever put a de-pinger in to a AT44-10 as mine got a naughty ping when fired
How do you know if first level (the one that is on the rail) is properly leveled? I notice there are adjustment screws which can suggest the level is not true level. Ps. Sorry for bad English.
Hi Giles, the new studio looking great nice gun rack 👍
If you buy anything from Schmidt and bender it will come with all the levelling tools required.
the devils in the detail, nice one Giles
Fantastic video. Thanks!
Thank you!
Nicely done my good sir
Hi sir may i ask please? Just a newbie here . Is it applicable also with the pcp if the receiver has 20 Moa inclined?
Or incline is vertical, you are measuring the level left to right not front to back, so no it doesn’t matter
The most problem is all airguns come with 11mm dovetail, mostly all grate scope suitable for picatinny rings and rails.. its a grate option if they design 2 rails for each pcp or let the customers chosen the rifle with dovetail or picatinny rail ..
Excellent
thank you
Thanks very much clear
Good job
Hi Giles. Awesome video as always. I got a question about the grip you are using with the saber tactical bag rider, is it an ergo grip and if yes which model? And are you going to offer grips for sale on AirGun101Shop?
@3:05 manufacturers do not guarantee turrets are level with the scope. they don't even guarantee it's level with the flat surfaces. only leupold guarantees the machined bottom will be level.
Two welding rods one on turret of scope one on breech of gun, viewed from behind when they are in line more accurate than a level. Cheap as chips
Not all crosshairs are perfectly lined up with the turrets. I've seen scopes over a grand have this problem. Use a straight edge (i use index card) and the center of the receiver and vertical part of the cross hair. Much more reliable than the bubble level method. Was shown this by a very old long distance shooter. Scope caps and turrets aren't precise.
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This is so easy to do by just sighting down the rifle. If you try it you would see how easy it is to get in the "ball park" thanks for the video though. Love the precision
Sliding parallel between picatinny rail and machined surface under turret area. Easy
You should always try and use the underside of the turret because that is flat, I guarantee you the top it will not be level if you turn it through 90° or whatever.. I use a level I’m a piece of flat tool steel..👍
be aware of your scope has spesific torque specs on the screws... Wheeler has a complete kit for mounting
When you're in a high level of precision every little bit helps
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Easier to use adjustable parallel…
I got gods levels... they’re called my eyes ;) 😂
I second this comment
Not the god bit but my eyes
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@@chopperhehehe I like "God" mentioned. He belongs there. Without him, there are no eyes.
Bubble levels are very rarely accurate.
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tuned out in the first 20 seconds and gave a thumbs down. A canted scope will affect any adjustments when adjusting the vertical and horizontal using the turrets since they will be traveling at an angle. It will not affect group size in any way. Just ask anyone who has ever shot a Smallbore or Palma rifle with an adjustable cant buttplate
Thanks very much clear
Thanks very much clear
Thanks very much clear