Very nicely done video. My only tips for hdzero are 1) ditch the true rc stubbies. I get the worst performance using those and its noticeable. Your rankings will still be the same, but it should cure the full screen flashes a nice amount. Go with spironets or vas mad mushroom. 2nd tip is I noticed you look down more wearing the hdzero setup so I recommend tilting the patches upwards like 25° or so. This also helps a ton out farther cause hdzero doesn't do diversity. It needs to use all 4 signals, so when your beam angle is headed toward the ground, far out you're basically on your omnis mostly. Again, I'm not saying it'll be night and day or anything like that , but if you do fly it again it will definitely increase your experience. I have a bunch of penetration tests on my page :).
Hey man thanks for the comment, nice to have a view from hdzero royalty 🙂. I watch your stuff all the time, appreciate the tips 👍. The real test here was between analog and hdzero, dji is kind of a whole other thing in regard to what was being tested. Just built a fettec 15a 2.5 inch quad with the Hdzero whoop board and I LOVE it!
@@int3fpv haha I appreciate the love man! You put alot of effort into this. I'll eventually add dji to my fleet, I just don't really fly the kind of demanding locations that people like sync fpv fly and prefer a locked latency. But I do fly dji from time to time, just don't own it myself
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 I like to fly quite close to myself most of the time, because I fly hard and don't want to walk ages to recover a quad when the crashes happen! I also value the consistent latency over penetration and image quality - which is why I fly analog (and increasingly hdzero 90% of the time). For flying med-long lines in a bando though dji is the way to go. They all have their place imo
@@int3fpv exactly how I feel and lmao your reasoning is EXACTLY my own. I'm just not built for going so far to go get my quad 😂 fuck that. If I ever got I to long range I would have zero motivation to go find my quad kilometers away. The fpv gods can keep it 😅😅😞
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Plus, I find flying long range is boring as hell! Mostly because a person pretty much needs to be way up high to get good long range, and I enjoy flying around objects, through trees, and weaving through the environment. Flying up high, in the open air, hell...you might as well have a Mavic! How is FPV long range any different from a Mavic long range? Sure, there is some, but not much! Open air flying up high is boring! And, what's the point of going so far? So, you can brag to your buddies about how far ya went? Finding a quad that far from you is futile - if not totally futile, really close! I do not see the point! lol
This is a really solid comparison. I want to love HDZero *so* much, Each time they update it, I think "This will be the time!" but it never quite is. I thought the 1000mw Tx was going to be the game changer, but it's still not. Like you said, my main issue is how the tiling goes from minor to a full screen wipeout in under a second. Analog doesn't look as nice when the coast is clear, but gives you a plenty of warning before totally crapping out. Subscribed! Great job!
Then, after seeing how Analog & HDZero did, then watching DJI, and how he was only using 25mbps, and not 50mbps like most of us use, it's craZy how DJI really doesn't noticeably distort or have any fuzz at all! What I don't get is ALL OF THE HATE towards DJI! Dji's FPV system is the single best innovation in the history of the FPV hobby! Noting else is even close! But, still we have guys hating on it as if it's their life goal! LOL I just don't get it! I swear it must be all of the analog guys that tell themselves they can't afford it, yet they fail to even post any of the analog gear they don't use as much to see how much they can sell it for on the used market! My friend does that a lot and has purchased ALL the DJI gear, including multiple Caddx Vistas, the V2 goggles, and everything needed to fly DJI - just with the funds he recouped from selling gear he already had that he wasn't using as much. It's not rocket science, and it was super easy for him to do! :) I just want all of the hate to stop and for others to have the same perspective and the maker of this video! They all have their place!
@@KOrnhOliO1 In my case, I went directly to DJI FPV combo and never regret it at all. My decision was that I could re-use google and then purchase a controller and custom drone later because I was a newbie in FPV. Some people I asked said that I should go to analog first. But having thought of the DJI's multiple modes of flying convinced me to choose the dji fpv drone. Yes for analog, we can start using a cheaper drone, but it was not a fair comparison to DJI. Because if we buy an analog system that is of the same quality it would probably be the same or even more expensive. And as a resale value, you are right. I tried to sell my FIMI X8, and it's tougher than selling a DJI.
Thank you, this is one of the best videos comparing the systems I have found yet. I also noticed nin other videos that HDZero handles medium signal strength better compared to analog, but drops faster and harder at really low signal.
I'm desperately busy saving up to get me a set of DJI. I'm still on analogue and am not impressed with the HD Zero enough to vouch paying all that money for a slightly better picture only. All else aside, its not an upgrade. But the DJI, will solve all the range and breakup issues i have when trying to film the MX League we are helping out. Great test dude. Thanks for the video.
My friend sells his lesser used FPV gear a lot and has purchased ALL the DJI gear, including multiple Caddx Vistas, the V2 goggles, and everything needed to fly DJI - just with the funds he recouped from selling gear he already had that he wasn't using as much. It's not rocket science, and it was super easy for him to do! :)
@@KOrnhOliO1 that is a great idea, pretty much what I've been doing. Just now left with only needed gear. It's pretty monstrously difficult and expensive this hobby in South africa.
@@KOrnhOliO1 Same, I sold my Skyzone 04x goggles, an analogue whoop, and various other analogue parts and got back about £650. Covered the DJI goggles and Caddx Vista. Best decision ever!
the stuttery feeling of the dji really reminds me of the lag I got in older FPV games, it'd really throw me off but the penetration is unmatched. Nice comparison
thank you so much for this video. I really want to start FPV, and this is super useful. I like the fair comparison. I think I prefer the HDzero colors (it looks a lot more natural), but statics get in the way and the image gets worse than analog. I am definitely considering DJI, but I guess I will wait until the product situation clarifies.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it - yeah in my opinion they all have their pros and cons and it really depends what you want to do with it and the sort of environment you fly in. I mostly fly analog and hdzero depending what I’m doing. One thing I’ve learnt since this video from others is hdzero is very sensitive to antenna choice - the image is built from all inputs regardless of signal strength apparently which is quite unlike a typical diversity analog setup
Great comparison video, call me old school but analog seems like a way to go for a freestyle pilot, you might not be getting that colorful, HD image, but you still have full control, "none washy" feel of the quad. When you're flying in sketchy spots I'd rather have a crappy video signal strength as long as it's manageable to see and orient my self, than a crappy flight performance and full screen blurs or flashes, and be more likely to crash.
I think for bandos, especially larger ones DJI is going to be the best all rounder. Where you still have an analog image any latency in the dji feed isn’t going to stop you dojng anything, it’s more of a subtle feeling - personally I find it ruins the immersion a bit despite the much better and stable picture. Seeing gaps sooner and clearer is going to be a big advantage though. I fly very close up usually and hard, not far to walk when the crashes come lol so I still fly analog the most. I’ve built a hdzero sub250 micro for around the garden and house and I love it, much improved image from analog and rainbow screen isn’t an issue because you’re so close. They each have their pros and cons, but I’d say dji is the best all rounder for most freestylers
Your results are consistent with what I saw when I tested the original Shark Byte gear against analog and DJI at equivalent power levels, back in 2020. I have not really seen any significant improvements in the quality of the signal with HDZero since then. Higher power only brings it on par with high powered analog. DJI is just in a class of its own when it comes to NLOS performance, and it's even *better* with the full sized AU with two antennas as can use true MIMO. DJI seems to excel in places with high multipathing, to the point that I can fly deep below LOS behind solid earth, especially there is something Rf reflective nearby like rocks or powerline poles and such. I've got a video where I'm flying 10+m below LoS 200-300m away.
Yeah DJI is in its own class in this environment really. Personally I think hdzero has improved in a lot of ways - the 4:3 micro v2 is massive improvement from the first runcam 16:9 camera, I hated 16:9 and didn’t use the system because of it until the 4:3 camera came out. Canvas osd is a big + too.
one of the biggest reasons i made the switch to digital is the quality of video in bandos and long distance flying. only drawback is cost and when digital goes bad its immediately and unforgiven.
Nicely done! It's crazy how personal these visual things are. Like, owning both DJI and analog, this is pretty close to how I see things on my end, but in the end analog is easier to fly (for me) - most of my issues are like when you're around @8:15 on DJI where you mention it being "blurry" whereas, again, for me, analog is perfectly flyable - which I swear is much more of an issue with overcast vs blue sky. One you're in the bando though DJI just blows everything out of the water... I just don't spend much time inside structures. It's just amazing how easily I fly through rainbows and static vs. chunky digital mud. DJI's ability to fly off axis of your antenna is absolutely incredible. Those menace patches are a pretty big detriment to rf performance though ... the TrueRC / VAS patches really end up being pretty superior in my experience. But really nice to see this vs HDZero. but...I'm in the minority, I think re: DJI. But mid range cruising DJI also just destroys :)
Hey cheers for the comment, glad you enjoyed it. I actually value a consistent latency over ultimate penetration and image quality for most of what I like to do so I actually fly analog and increasingly hdzero 90% of the time. Even close up I find dji to feel weird at times, in all honesty don’t think it’s enough to stop me doing anything as in the end footage would be the same, but it’s enough to ruin the the feel. Which is kinda funny it’s maybe as I’ve flown analog for years, a lot of people would ask how it ruins the feel when the image quality in compassion is so bad 😄
@@int3fpv exactly! and yeah - having flown analog for soooo long i'm really fairly disciplined about where I look in relation to the quad, which took a long time to get good at make an enormous difference. I don't know if it's latency or compression related stutters, but i have the same feels, where something is just off. I recently, however, move to a location with a lot more mid range cruising for 7&8" quads and just general scenery, so my DJI stuff is definitely going to get used more than in the past. previously flying almost totally in the woods in and out of the canopy my DJI stuff just collected dust...
exactly.. I would swap out the left stubbies and get a TruRc X-air MK II. That's my current setup. The best of both worlds. Having at least two onmi's help when flying behind yourself, otherwise when flying behind it's going to get ugly, fast.
HDzero flight you started to point your head down 😆. I do the samething. Patches look like they are pointing down. DJI retransmit packets so will always be better at penetrating.
nice video ben. agreed the penetration of dji is excellent but its the latency i cant get on with. i find on my dji quads i just fly around sight seeing and im getting board of that. my wings have all been changed back to analog as well, as dji range is poo where wee fly
i have dji v2 googles with IRC ghost transmitter and i can fly fast around poles like no tomorrow full speed. the latency is there but its so damn minimal trust me
I like using DJI all the time. Analog seems so primitive after you've flown DJI a lot! I think a lot of that unconnected feeling in part is our brain telling us what we've heard...that DJI has variable latency, so our brain attempts to make us actually feel something that, at least some of the time, is just in our brain! The brain is very complex and can fool us into thinking something is there, when it's actually you HEARING something is supposed to be there, so your brain makes you feel it is. Yes, I feel that there's is something to it, but not nearly what people sometimes make it out to be! Look at JB's and Stingy's blind test they did. Neither of them could tell the latency at all, and their guesses of what they were flying turned out to actually show exactly that! It showed neither could tell which system had the latency, and what I said above...that our brains trick us into thinking we feel it when we know which system we are flying, but it's actually not there, if it's a blind test and we don't know which system is supposed to have the added latency. In their blind test - there's was no way for them to tell which was which, so their brain wasn't able to trick them into thinking there was more latency on one system. The brain is a power thing, and this is a real thing, it tricking us to thinking what we've heard is supposed to be there. Just go watch their test! ;) I fly DJI a lot and don't feel any significantly difference than when I fly analog. I don't fly super far away, but when I got out there a ways with analog, as soon as I'd go behind this small bush or a tree with no leaves on it, I'd lose 90% of my image and crash or nearly crash. With DJI, nothing happens! It simply penetrates the object and I see no distortion 99% of the time! It's SUCH A BREATH OF FRESH AIR to actually fly with an HD image that is crystal clear 90%+ of the time. It's reinvigorated my love of FPV because the image quality doesn't look like a CRT TV from the 70's using rabbit ears, that's too far from the main TV antennas! ... Snow, fuzz, rolling image, rainbow distortion, etc, etc, etc! I fly with a DIGITAL CRYSTAL CLEAR image and love every minute of it! There is no comparison! And, if DJI is a 10 - best image quality FPV has ever seen. Then, HDZero is a 5 and analog is a 4, IMO. To me, the WORST VALUE here is HDZero, because you do not get that huge improvement in image quality and especially not in penetration, that you get with DJI. So, to pay the price of HDZero to get the relatively small improvements, is NOT WORTH THE MONEY! On the other hand, when you get the massive improvements DJI gives us, it's totally worth the upgrade! Flying FPV with HD Crystal Clear Image Quality, even way out there, and behind objects, is SO DAMN FUN! It gives me much more confidence. =(:^)-
@@KOrnhOliO1 We fly HDZero not for image quality, but for lower latency (even if it is negligible), open source, and repairability. I recently had to replace a fuse in my HDZero goggles because I did something dumb and broke it. $8 repair for $600 goggles. I soldered the exact same chip to where the old one was. In my eyes, that's far preferable to shipping my goggles to DJI and waiting for them to fix it. But to each their own. Also, I can add Walksnail or analog to my goggles, which is nice. There are people who should fly DJI and people who should fly HDZero. I personally prefer the latter.
@@T1Ledlie I have heard of no one that has had any problems with any of the DJI Goggles or Vistas. JB has said he hasn't heard anyone with issues either. In fact he's actually said the gear is practically bullet proof. So reliable it's in another class above any other products in FPV. SOLID. YES! HDZero is the format to use if you are into racing. 👍 But for freestyle, again as JB pointed out, the snow HDZero gives is not like analog snow! It's sparklies snow that is really, Really bright and colorful sparkling pixels. Super difficult to look at! ... Really hurts my eyes. I couldn't fly with it. Too bright and obnoxious! 😵💫 Plus, penetration is ridiculously pathetic, so it's not really good for flying freestyle. When it comes down to abilities, HDZero has it for racing, but anything else and it's really not even close! JB can't even fly around his property, which maybe goes 100m from where he's sitting in any direction, at the most, and still HDZero gives a ton of those hard to view sparklies! WalkSnail and can fly his property with barely any distortion to the image. DJI can fly with none, and if a person uses 03, that's game over! Nothing is even in the same universe! 🤘 Flying down his road and you'll get a little ways with HDZero, if a person can deal with all the sparklies before going blind! Lol WalkSnail will make it much further, with much easier on your eyes distortion when it goes. DJI goes way farther than either and has way better, virtually crystal clear image quality almost down to the sign at the end of his road. 03 gets all the way to the sign and then some, with almost no break up. And, a person can fly clearly all the way down to 2 or 3mbps! 😳 Again, it's in a class by itself, especially with the 1080p in the Goggles and onboard 20gb DVR with 4K / 120fps recording!!! WalkSnail's 1080p isn't good, and HDZero only dreams of having it! Reliability and durability is also in a completely different league than WalkSnail and HDZero. It's not even remotely close cuz DJI just doesn't break or fail. Not that we've seen. There's probably someone out there, but they're a rare unicorn 🦄! So, racing, HDZero gets the nod, but anything farther than 150 ft. and I for one would go BLIND from those ever present hideous sparklies! They literally hurt my eyes watching them in my TV, watching JB'd video! Damn, those are enough for me to say "NO WAY IN HELL!" So, save your eyes and fly very, Very close. 🎇🎇🎇🎇🧑🦯🙈 Or, just refuse to put up with technology that just honestly isn't that advanced. Carl has done a marvelous job with what Fatshark discarded, with a really great features set on his goggles! But! That doesn't change the fact that the tech inside HDZero isn't even close to as advanced as WalkSnail and DJI. World's apart! It's why Fatshark gave up on it. Close in Racing, fine. Bring on those eye blinding sparklies and I say I enjoy having my eyesight way too much to risk going blind from that! It's terrible! 🤢🤮💩🧑🦯
@@KOrnhOliO1 But that's exactly why I love HDZero. If I get tired of the sparkles and want to use Walksnail, I spend $240 and get both a VRX that works with my goggles AND a cam+VTX. I can also easily use analog. The only system I can't easily use is DJI. I do not contest that DJI wins for image quality. They do. However, image quality isn't my top priority. IMO, HDZero goggles are the *best* value for money goggles out there because DJI works with DJI, and HDZero covers everything else. I'm also super lucky if DJI were to ever release a VRX(which they won't).
Thanks for your video. The new Vrx 4 SMA should improve this. It also enabled you to use the best possible antennas on all 4 SMA as HDZero use all 4 antennas. It will probably also be known as a bit more sensitive then the old Vrx. I also believe you will have even better results with the DJI FPV drone as you are really flying DJI FPV v1.
The only thing i could recommend is running them all on Raceband 1 since the lowest freq will always have the best penetration. Make sure the output is equal, 1w will always outperform 800mw. The other thing is the quality of antennas used between the system. Your HD setups have much higher quality receiving antennas than your analog system did. Other than those three things everything else was good.
DJI look superior to the analog and HDZero, I have both analog and dji and use both of them all the time. we are spoiled today with great equipment in a varied price range.
I have hdzero. Will upgraded patch and lung range cp...1 watt freestyle. I cannot get great range either. I went with this setup to try to save a few bucks and not buy new goggle. After flying...im going to get the dji v2.
272nd subscriber!! You will hit 500 and then 1K in no time you fly soooo good!!! If you can post a giveaway of a drone or anything f.p.v. people always need a more battery's lol. but I'm shure you will hit it even if you don't. Very cool channel
Do you do long range? In that case analog or hdzero would be preferable over dji for sure due to the hard limit of the dji system. I’ve seen videos that show great results from hdzero in this sort of use case
@@int3fpv Yeah I am doing kinda midrange flights, like 10-15km. I have analog and this word finde for me while flying in line of sight. But if you going behind stuff the Signal is gone so fast.
Nice comparison, BUT on the analog and hdzero you are looking in to the ground. Only with DJI you are looking straight. This has big impact of signal reception
With the four omni's he has on his goggles, it doesn't really matter if he is looking down or not. That really only applies with directional/patch antennas. I have two onmi's on my right and a TruRc patch antenna taking up both ports on my left. I tend to look down so my patch antenna is mounted 80 degrees up top, when i'm looking down the signal is going straight.
So the DJI system is still holding up :) Hopefully a V2 one with occusync 3.0 and gps will come out in 1-2 years (not now as the old system is still quite recent)
If you are testing the best some system has to offer why not test the more powerful analog VTX-ses ? You can use something like TBS Unify Pro32 HV or Rush Tank Solo for tests :) Sill way cheaper than other systems transmitters.
Good job with that comparison. I am DJI user and I have a question. You are using 25mbps mode, is it better for penetration? I usually so mid-long range flights and I use 50mbps. Thanks and congrats for this good video comparing the 3 major systems
I think about the only use for 25mbps is that you can fly with more people at the same time. 50mbps takes up double the channels, so less people can fly with you.
I used 25mbps as it is more similar in bandwidth to hdzero, but yes in theory a narrower band will be less prone to interference - I’ve not tested this between the dji modes but I’m sure someone has. Glad you enjoyed the video
Great video! I’m pretty new to the hobby, and I just received my hdzero 1w vtx, and I was reading that it doesn’t come setup for 1w, and that there is something you need to do to activate the higher power. I’m just curious as to what settings you were running on the hdzero? I can’t wait to see more videos from you. By far the best comparison I have seen yet. Definitely subscribing to your channel after watching this video. Keep up the great work!
Yes you have to flash an unlocking firmware on it and then back to the normal firmware to unlock it. Settings were CH1 at 1w, using the micro v2 camera on 4:3
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Well, i sold my HDZERO stuff - VTR, VTX (1Watt, Race) - for a good amount of money. Sure, better than analog.... But penetration and range ist still a problem. So i'm now on dji. No Problems....
If I was a bore, I said that DJI is 1.5 times more powerful than its counterpart and therefore it won. But it's actually a great test. This is beautiful and thank you!
For pepole that dont know your signal is very much dependent on your output DJI has the highest 1200MW that's why its so great. That doesnt mean its the only system capable of that.
would you go with the V2 googles plus the RunCam Falcon 120 fps or SkyZone O4L plus the new walksnail vrx at 60fps because of the hdmi link ... Thanks and great vids - man ------------
@@int3fpv I just bought the Skyzone o4l and to get the he zero goggles just not viable to much money would rather buy more builds I love analog it's so cheap when you crash if the dji goggles were not $209 I would stick to analog
@@int3fpv I bought the DJI V2 goggles display model for $219 on ebay and the 120 fps falcon air unit on amazon for $130 go put in my protek35 keep my racers analog if the DJI price did not drop I would just stick with analog but that cheap is a no brainer for cinewhoop you want digital when following 4 wheelers or cars any kind of filming
@@bengordon7635 dji + 120fps would be my choice between those two options because of the latency of the walksnail hdmi at 60fps. Unless cost is a factor ofc
Wasn’t trying to push the limits in that regard during any of the flights, DJI can feel off in places even close up - analog feels connected, dji feels a bit like playing a video game imo but with significantly better image and penetration. Where you get going signal with analog and felt latency in dji is more about disrupting the connected feel than actually stopping you doing anything. Maybe I’ve been flying analog too long 😄
@@int3fpv your flying just looked smoother and more confident on the other systems. It's all academy for me anyway, as DJI had been a non-starter for me even before HDZero 😝. As a DJI V1 Mini owner, I didn't like some of the stuff they were doing, like configuring the battery boards to die when you try to replace the cells. Really put me off the whole company.
I think I'm going to stick with analog until my flying gets better. If I'm going to destroy something I would rather destroy a cheaper analog system than an expensive HD one. Once I get confident I will probably go straight to DJI. I don't see any reason to waste time on an inferior digital system. Thanks your video helped me make my decision.
I don’t think so as it’s using the same asic, the ability to have 4 different sma antennas might give more flexibility antenna wise I guess. I’d be able to improve my results by using taller omnis I’d say. I later tried using the supplied direct ufl antenna on the vtx that was supplied instead of the pigtail and lolipop but this made no difference as far as I could see.
Its not really an apples to apples comparison because of the mW difference but am sure that even at the same Watt rating the dji would still perform better than the HDZero. The dji system is much more sophisticated than the HDZero.
I have no idea about all of this, but for the: "DJI - Caddx Vista 1200mw CH1 25MBit, OG DJI 120fps camera, axii antenna upgrade on vrx All running on fettec G4 kiss with IRC Ghost control system" How much would all that cost approximately? Vague number is ok, I just wanna know if its payable for a normal human.
i have almost exact that setup i started my first purchase at around 1350 euro. T-Motor FT5 MK2 HD Radiomaster TS 16s IRC-Ghost with Ghost Atto Duo receiver 2x Peter the penetrator TX antennas Dji Goggles V2 TrueRC X2-Air MK II 5.8GHz Dinogy 1300 MAH 6S lipos
Yes analog was only 800mw also (mainly as this was the only vtx I have). The vista is capable of the higher power output so that’s that people will be using I’m sure. I’ve tested hdzero 200mw alongside analog and it’s a similar result as I have described here. I’ve tried dji at 700mw and again the results are similar
@@int3fpv test like this that makes people miss understanding, doesn't matter analog, HDzero, DJI the power are the same , Power(watt) = Volt X Amp, numbers don't lie, the difference just the hardware and firmware. If you wanted to conduct fair test, use same hardware, vtx, antenna etc and the same firmware, i know it's impossible that's why i just wanted to point out that fair test is impossible.
Well I kinda feel that this was more a test between analog and hdzero (for me at least, as I know what dji is capable of and what it’s pros and cons are) and my general feeling is that mw to mw hdzero has an advantage in the first 60-70% of penetration as the image is clearer and sharper, after that I find the breakup to be unpredictable with the full screen flashes very distracting compared to the more gradual analog breakup. Really all the systems have pros and cons so just use what you think will suit your style of flying
The results would be the same regardless. I came from analogue to DJI and analogue on 600mw is destroyed by dji on 25mw. Don’t hate on the dji because you don’t like them. It’s by far the best system for penetration and image quality. And as he said you can see where you are going
@@randall8686 did i said i hate Dji?, who don't want clear video and good penetration lol, i am saying that SCIENTIFICALLY speaking, ether analog or digital OR computer, microwave, drill, whatever that required electric in it are,,, Watt/Power = Volt X Ampeare, what could make DJI so far superior afterall is just its hardware and firmware.
That's what he used in this test, and you could see the results. DJI can get much better by using 50mbps, but less people can fly at the same time...just a couple, maybe.
@@KOrnhOliO1 missed! I'd love to buy a hdzero vtx (and vrx), but dji is always better.. never fly more than me alone 😉 Anyway, i never give a buck to Dji 😋
@@ArmageddonYT Why? What did they every do to you? Except for giving us all the single best innovation in the history of FPV! I don't get all of the hate! 😩 If you were able to fly DJI FPV every day for a month, and really get used to it, you would be saying that! And that's for sure! It's such a joy to fly with a crystal clear HD image and amazing penetration of objects! Fucking W O W ! 😎🤘
@@KOrnhOliO1 It's not hate. Even if it looks like.. 😂 It's like Apple.. when you buy it, you buying the handcuff with it 😉 So i prefer, Hdzero, which lets you remain with your analog material.. well, part of.. I'll be patient.. 😉
Comparing the incomparable... I prefere brakeout without lag than no brakeout but huge lag, even your flight aggressiveness change with that lag... That clearly not a win for anyone without bios
Nice comparison mate - +1 Sub from me. I really like seeing developing technologies, but if we're honest, HDZero just isn't quite there yet. They've made some huge strides, and I hope they keep going, but I think anyone flying analog who wants a digital experience should just upgrade to DJI and not look back for now.
it took me at least 8 months to finally buy all the parts to get my first drone. i said to myself, IF i ever plunge into this hobby and spend at least 1500 euro to only get started then i wouldnt take any less than what dji had to offer. becouse after all that and spending 1500 u want to have at least a good view even if u only care about the gopro footage. im sure that analog is also bad for ur eyes i have never looked inside goggles that are analog but man all the footage i see online say enough. how can u ever fly comfortably with all those breakups man. go for DJI even if u dont know how analog looks like
Very nicely done video. My only tips for hdzero are 1) ditch the true rc stubbies. I get the worst performance using those and its noticeable. Your rankings will still be the same, but it should cure the full screen flashes a nice amount. Go with spironets or vas mad mushroom. 2nd tip is I noticed you look down more wearing the hdzero setup so I recommend tilting the patches upwards like 25° or so. This also helps a ton out farther cause hdzero doesn't do diversity. It needs to use all 4 signals, so when your beam angle is headed toward the ground, far out you're basically on your omnis mostly. Again, I'm not saying it'll be night and day or anything like that , but if you do fly it again it will definitely increase your experience. I have a bunch of penetration tests on my page :).
Hey man thanks for the comment, nice to have a view from hdzero royalty 🙂. I watch your stuff all the time, appreciate the tips 👍. The real test here was between analog and hdzero, dji is kind of a whole other thing in regard to what was being tested. Just built a fettec 15a 2.5 inch quad with the Hdzero whoop board and I LOVE it!
@@int3fpv haha I appreciate the love man! You put alot of effort into this. I'll eventually add dji to my fleet, I just don't really fly the kind of demanding locations that people like sync fpv fly and prefer a locked latency. But I do fly dji from time to time, just don't own it myself
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 I like to fly quite close to myself most of the time, because I fly hard and don't want to walk ages to recover a quad when the crashes happen! I also value the consistent latency over penetration and image quality - which is why I fly analog (and increasingly hdzero 90% of the time). For flying med-long lines in a bando though dji is the way to go. They all have their place imo
@@int3fpv exactly how I feel and lmao your reasoning is EXACTLY my own. I'm just not built for going so far to go get my quad 😂 fuck that. If I ever got I to long range I would have zero motivation to go find my quad kilometers away. The fpv gods can keep it 😅😅😞
@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Plus, I find flying long range is boring as hell! Mostly because a person pretty much needs to be way up high to get good long range, and I enjoy flying around objects, through trees, and weaving through the environment. Flying up high, in the open air, hell...you might as well have a Mavic! How is FPV long range any different from a Mavic long range? Sure, there is some, but not much! Open air flying up high is boring! And, what's the point of going so far? So, you can brag to your buddies about how far ya went? Finding a quad that far from you is futile - if not totally futile, really close! I do not see the point! lol
This is a really solid comparison. I want to love HDZero *so* much, Each time they update it, I think "This will be the time!" but it never quite is. I thought the 1000mw Tx was going to be the game changer, but it's still not. Like you said, my main issue is how the tiling goes from minor to a full screen wipeout in under a second. Analog doesn't look as nice when the coast is clear, but gives you a plenty of warning before totally crapping out. Subscribed! Great job!
Yeah agree, depends where you fly and what you want to prioritise I guess 👍
Then, after seeing how Analog & HDZero did, then watching DJI, and how he was only using 25mbps, and not 50mbps like most of us use, it's craZy how DJI really doesn't noticeably distort or have any fuzz at all!
What I don't get is ALL OF THE HATE towards DJI! Dji's FPV system is the single best innovation in the history of the FPV hobby! Noting else is even close! But, still we have guys hating on it as if it's their life goal! LOL I just don't get it!
I swear it must be all of the analog guys that tell themselves they can't afford it, yet they fail to even post any of the analog gear they don't use as much to see how much they can sell it for on the used market!
My friend does that a lot and has purchased ALL the DJI gear, including multiple Caddx Vistas, the V2 goggles, and everything needed to fly DJI - just with the funds he recouped from selling gear he already had that he wasn't using as much. It's not rocket science, and it was super easy for him to do! :)
I just want all of the hate to stop and for others to have the same perspective and the maker of this video! They all have their place!
@@KOrnhOliO1 In my case, I went directly to DJI FPV combo and never regret it at all. My decision was that I could re-use google and then purchase a controller and custom drone later because I was a newbie in FPV. Some people I asked said that I should go to analog first. But having thought of the DJI's multiple modes of flying convinced me to choose the dji fpv drone. Yes for analog, we can start using a cheaper drone, but it was not a fair comparison to DJI. Because if we buy an analog system that is of the same quality it would probably be the same or even more expensive. And as a resale value, you are right. I tried to sell my FIMI X8, and it's tougher than selling a DJI.
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@@KOrnhOliO1 At 50mbps would have had much higher latency
Great job dude actually the best comparison I’ve see yet great Flyin keep up the good work
Can tell a lot of work went into this dude! Nicely done
Thank you, this is one of the best videos comparing the systems I have found yet.
I also noticed nin other videos that HDZero handles medium signal strength better compared to analog, but drops faster and harder at really low signal.
Yeah definitely up to a point hdzero has less interference and distortion compared to analog, agree.. maybe first 60-70%?
@@int3fpv check out my homemade fpv cockpit with the dji system hooked to it and like, share, and subscribe
Very nice test👌I gave hdzero a go last year, but I switched back to analogue.
thanks for making this man, it was great to see them all side by side
I'm desperately busy saving up to get me a set of DJI. I'm still on analogue and am not impressed with the HD Zero enough to vouch paying all that money for a slightly better picture only. All else aside, its not an upgrade. But the DJI, will solve all the range and breakup issues i have when trying to film the MX League we are helping out. Great test dude. Thanks for the video.
My friend sells his lesser used FPV gear a lot and has purchased ALL the DJI gear, including multiple Caddx Vistas, the V2 goggles, and everything needed to fly DJI - just with the funds he recouped from selling gear he already had that he wasn't using as much. It's not rocket science, and it was super easy for him to do! :)
@@KOrnhOliO1 that is a great idea, pretty much what I've been doing. Just now left with only needed gear. It's pretty monstrously difficult and expensive this hobby in South africa.
@@BuZZarDFPV WOW! farthest away from me possible, practically! lol Greetings from Oregon, USA ... a far, far way away! lol ;)
@@KOrnhOliO1 Same, I sold my Skyzone 04x goggles, an analogue whoop, and various other analogue parts and got back about £650. Covered the DJI goggles and Caddx Vista. Best decision ever!
@@ScarySquirrel Smart dude! ;)
Great video! Very fair comparison between all the systems. Hard to argue with those results!
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the stuttery feeling of the dji really reminds me of the lag I got in older FPV games, it'd really throw me off but the penetration is unmatched. Nice comparison
Great watch, and edit😎👌 hope to see more content from yous in the future👍👍👍
Nice work. Great bando site. Hdzero will hopefully be the fpv builders future. DJI seems to be wanting to eliminate us.
thank you so much for this video. I really want to start FPV, and this is super useful. I like the fair comparison. I think I prefer the HDzero colors (it looks a lot more natural), but statics get in the way and the image gets worse than analog. I am definitely considering DJI, but I guess I will wait until the product situation clarifies.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it - yeah in my opinion they all have their pros and cons and it really depends what you want to do with it and the sort of environment you fly in. I mostly fly analog and hdzero depending what I’m doing.
One thing I’ve learnt since this video from others is hdzero is very sensitive to antenna choice - the image is built from all inputs regardless of signal strength apparently which is quite unlike a typical diversity analog setup
Great comparison video, call me old school but analog seems like a way to go for a freestyle pilot, you might not be getting that colorful, HD image, but you still have full control, "none washy" feel of the quad. When you're flying in sketchy spots I'd rather have a crappy video signal strength as long as it's manageable to see and orient my self, than a crappy flight performance and full screen blurs or flashes, and be more likely to crash.
I think for bandos, especially larger ones DJI is going to be the best all rounder. Where you still have an analog image any latency in the dji feed isn’t going to stop you dojng anything, it’s more of a subtle feeling - personally I find it ruins the immersion a bit despite the much better and stable picture. Seeing gaps sooner and clearer is going to be a big advantage though. I fly very close up usually and hard, not far to walk when the crashes come lol so I still fly analog the most. I’ve built a hdzero sub250 micro for around the garden and house and I love it, much improved image from analog and rainbow screen isn’t an issue because you’re so close. They each have their pros and cons, but I’d say dji is the best all rounder for most freestylers
What’s the point of that when you’re locked in a box of where you can fly? You can fly much better when you’re not worrying about losing video
@@SikhFPV sure, but some people like to fly inside buildings behind many walls, just shows you what you can expect
We'll done with the map and everything. I'm thinking about getting back in. Haven't flown since the HD3 days
Unreal vidoeo love the edit too, can't wait for the vlogs next 😂
Great video and real world comparison, thank you.
Your results are consistent with what I saw when I tested the original Shark Byte gear against analog and DJI at equivalent power levels, back in 2020. I have not really seen any significant improvements in the quality of the signal with HDZero since then. Higher power only brings it on par with high powered analog. DJI is just in a class of its own when it comes to NLOS performance, and it's even *better* with the full sized AU with two antennas as can use true MIMO. DJI seems to excel in places with high multipathing, to the point that I can fly deep below LOS behind solid earth, especially there is something Rf reflective nearby like rocks or powerline poles and such. I've got a video where I'm flying 10+m below LoS 200-300m away.
Yeah DJI is in its own class in this environment really. Personally I think hdzero has improved in a lot of ways - the 4:3 micro v2 is massive improvement from the first runcam 16:9 camera, I hated 16:9 and didn’t use the system because of it until the 4:3 camera came out. Canvas osd is a big + too.
one of the biggest reasons i made the switch to digital is the quality of video in bandos and long distance flying. only drawback is cost and when digital goes bad its immediately and unforgiven.
Hi! Good video!! But your head is low in test hdzero and analog, but is high to test DJI
one of my favorite props
Nicely done! It's crazy how personal these visual things are. Like, owning both DJI and analog, this is pretty close to how I see things on my end, but in the end analog is easier to fly (for me) - most of my issues are like when you're around @8:15 on DJI where you mention it being "blurry" whereas, again, for me, analog is perfectly flyable - which I swear is much more of an issue with overcast vs blue sky. One you're in the bando though DJI just blows everything out of the water... I just don't spend much time inside structures. It's just amazing how easily I fly through rainbows and static vs. chunky digital mud. DJI's ability to fly off axis of your antenna is absolutely incredible. Those menace patches are a pretty big detriment to rf performance though ... the TrueRC / VAS patches really end up being pretty superior in my experience. But really nice to see this vs HDZero. but...I'm in the minority, I think re: DJI. But mid range cruising DJI also just destroys :)
Hey cheers for the comment, glad you enjoyed it. I actually value a consistent latency over ultimate penetration and image quality for most of what I like to do so I actually fly analog and increasingly hdzero 90% of the time. Even close up I find dji to feel weird at times, in all honesty don’t think it’s enough to stop me doing anything as in the end footage would be the same, but it’s enough to ruin the the feel. Which is kinda funny it’s maybe as I’ve flown analog for years, a lot of people would ask how it ruins the feel when the image quality in compassion is so bad 😄
@@int3fpv exactly! and yeah - having flown analog for soooo long i'm really fairly disciplined about where I look in relation to the quad, which took a long time to get good at make an enormous difference. I don't know if it's latency or compression related stutters, but i have the same feels, where something is just off. I recently, however, move to a location with a lot more mid range cruising for 7&8" quads and just general scenery, so my DJI stuff is definitely going to get used more than in the past. previously flying almost totally in the woods in and out of the canopy my DJI stuff just collected dust...
Perfect comparison. Thanks. I wish I could fly fpv, I love the freedom. I'll have to just buy one and try.
Nice channel! Simple and straightforward. Just enough talking 🙏🙏 subbed 👍
Try replacing the omnidirectional antenna with 2 tripple feed patch antennas and you will see a big difference difference imo...
exactly.. I would swap out the left stubbies and get a TruRc X-air MK II. That's my current setup. The best of both worlds. Having at least two onmi's help when flying behind yourself, otherwise when flying behind it's going to get ugly, fast.
Good comparison video, well done!
HDzero flight you started to point your head down 😆. I do the samething. Patches look like they are pointing down. DJI retransmit packets so will always be better at penetrating.
nice video ben. agreed the penetration of dji is excellent but its the latency i cant get on with. i find on my dji quads i just fly around sight seeing and im getting board of that. my wings have all been changed back to analog as well, as dji range is poo where wee fly
i have dji v2 googles with IRC ghost transmitter and i can fly fast around poles like no tomorrow full speed.
the latency is there but its so damn minimal trust me
@@MRdeLaat trust you 😆 the latency is ridiculous. Why do you think nobody races with it.
Great video! Well done and informative. Easy to choose now. Thank you. 🎉
Perfect. So DJI it is then.
Depends what you’re after. If you want to fly the further reaches of bandos then yes the best choice
I like using DJI all the time. Analog seems so primitive after you've flown DJI a lot! I think a lot of that unconnected feeling in part is our brain telling us what we've heard...that DJI has variable latency, so our brain attempts to make us actually feel something that, at least some of the time, is just in our brain! The brain is very complex and can fool us into thinking something is there, when it's actually you HEARING something is supposed to be there, so your brain makes you feel it is. Yes, I feel that there's is something to it, but not nearly what people sometimes make it out to be!
Look at JB's and Stingy's blind test they did. Neither of them could tell the latency at all, and their guesses of what they were flying turned out to actually show exactly that! It showed neither could tell which system had the latency, and what I said above...that our brains trick us into thinking we feel it when we know which system we are flying, but it's actually not there, if it's a blind test and we don't know which system is supposed to have the added latency. In their blind test - there's was no way for them to tell which was which, so their brain wasn't able to trick them into thinking there was more latency on one system. The brain is a power thing, and this is a real thing, it tricking us to thinking what we've heard is supposed to be there. Just go watch their test! ;)
I fly DJI a lot and don't feel any significantly difference than when I fly analog. I don't fly super far away, but when I got out there a ways with analog, as soon as I'd go behind this small bush or a tree with no leaves on it, I'd lose 90% of my image and crash or nearly crash.
With DJI, nothing happens!
It simply penetrates the object and I see no distortion 99% of the time!
It's SUCH A BREATH OF FRESH AIR to actually fly with an HD image that is crystal clear 90%+ of the time.
It's reinvigorated my love of FPV because the image quality doesn't look like a CRT TV from the 70's using rabbit ears, that's too far from the main TV antennas! ... Snow, fuzz, rolling image, rainbow distortion, etc, etc, etc!
I fly with a DIGITAL CRYSTAL CLEAR image and love every minute of it! There is no comparison! And, if DJI is a 10 - best image quality FPV has ever seen. Then, HDZero is a 5 and analog is a 4, IMO.
To me, the WORST VALUE here is HDZero, because you do not get that huge improvement in image quality and especially not in penetration, that you get with DJI. So, to pay the price of HDZero to get the relatively small improvements, is NOT WORTH THE MONEY! On the other hand, when you get the massive improvements DJI gives us, it's totally worth the upgrade! Flying FPV with HD Crystal Clear Image Quality, even way out there, and behind objects, is SO DAMN FUN! It gives me much more confidence. =(:^)-
@@KOrnhOliO1 We fly HDZero not for image quality, but for lower latency (even if it is negligible), open source, and repairability. I recently had to replace a fuse in my HDZero goggles because I did something dumb and broke it. $8 repair for $600 goggles. I soldered the exact same chip to where the old one was.
In my eyes, that's far preferable to shipping my goggles to DJI and waiting for them to fix it. But to each their own.
Also, I can add Walksnail or analog to my goggles, which is nice.
There are people who should fly DJI and people who should fly HDZero. I personally prefer the latter.
@@T1Ledlie I have heard of no one that has had any problems with any of the DJI Goggles or Vistas. JB has said he hasn't heard anyone with issues either. In fact he's actually said the gear is practically bullet proof. So reliable it's in another class above any other products in FPV. SOLID.
YES! HDZero is the format to use if you are into racing. 👍 But for freestyle, again as JB pointed out, the snow HDZero gives is not like analog snow! It's sparklies snow that is really, Really bright and colorful sparkling pixels. Super difficult to look at! ... Really hurts my eyes. I couldn't fly with it. Too bright and obnoxious! 😵💫
Plus, penetration is ridiculously pathetic, so it's not really good for flying freestyle.
When it comes down to abilities, HDZero has it for racing, but anything else and it's really not even close! JB can't even fly around his property, which maybe goes 100m from where he's sitting in any direction, at the most, and still HDZero gives a ton of those hard to view sparklies! WalkSnail and can fly his property with barely any distortion to the image. DJI can fly with none, and if a person uses 03, that's game over! Nothing is even in the same universe! 🤘
Flying down his road and you'll get a little ways with HDZero, if a person can deal with all the sparklies before going blind! Lol
WalkSnail will make it much further, with much easier on your eyes distortion when it goes. DJI goes way farther than either and has way better, virtually crystal clear image quality almost down to the sign at the end of his road. 03 gets all the way to the sign and then some, with almost no break up. And, a person can fly clearly all the way down to 2 or 3mbps! 😳 Again, it's in a class by itself, especially with the 1080p in the Goggles and onboard 20gb DVR with 4K / 120fps recording!!! WalkSnail's 1080p isn't good, and HDZero only dreams of having it!
Reliability and durability is also in a completely different league than WalkSnail and HDZero. It's not even remotely close cuz DJI just doesn't break or fail. Not that we've seen. There's probably someone out there, but they're a rare unicorn 🦄!
So, racing, HDZero gets the nod, but anything farther than 150 ft. and I for one would go BLIND from those ever present hideous sparklies! They literally hurt my eyes watching them in my TV, watching JB'd video! Damn, those are enough for me to say "NO WAY IN HELL!"
So, save your eyes and fly very, Very close. 🎇🎇🎇🎇🧑🦯🙈 Or, just refuse to put up with technology that just honestly isn't that advanced. Carl has done a marvelous job with what Fatshark discarded, with a really great features set on his goggles! But! That doesn't change the fact that the tech inside HDZero isn't even close to as advanced as WalkSnail and DJI. World's apart!
It's why Fatshark gave up on it.
Close in Racing, fine. Bring on those eye blinding sparklies and I say I enjoy having my eyesight way too much to risk going blind from that! It's terrible! 🤢🤮💩🧑🦯
@@KOrnhOliO1 But that's exactly why I love HDZero. If I get tired of the sparkles and want to use Walksnail, I spend $240 and get both a VRX that works with my goggles AND a cam+VTX. I can also easily use analog. The only system I can't easily use is DJI.
I do not contest that DJI wins for image quality. They do. However, image quality isn't my top priority. IMO, HDZero goggles are the *best* value for money goggles out there because DJI works with DJI, and HDZero covers everything else. I'm also super lucky if DJI were to ever release a VRX(which they won't).
Just got around to watching this final version. Good comparison. Hopefully DJI doesn't abandon us in v3, because I'm about ready to hop on board.
Just make sure you only plan to fly alone on 50mbps. 25mbps is a completely different experience.
Great comparison!
Thanks for your video. The new Vrx 4 SMA should improve this. It also enabled you to use the best possible antennas on all 4 SMA as HDZero use all 4 antennas. It will probably also be known as a bit more sensitive then the old Vrx. I also believe you will have even better results with the DJI FPV drone as you are really flying DJI FPV v1.
The only thing i could recommend is running them all on Raceband 1 since the lowest freq will always have the best penetration. Make sure the output is equal, 1w will always outperform 800mw. The other thing is the quality of antennas used between the system. Your HD setups have much higher quality receiving antennas than your analog system did. Other than those three things everything else was good.
Great comparison, top banana for both of you! Good work
So fair comparison of a great help... I had to subscribe TNX for the great video
Good work! Thanks I love Flying with dji🥰
Your power stance is class
try analog with pal instead of ntsc, makes the color much better
Excellent comparison 👍
What was the farthest point?
Thanks for your help you sir have helped me greatly.
DJI look superior to the analog and HDZero, I have both analog and dji and use both of them all the time. we are spoiled today with great equipment in a varied price range.
Thanks for the video!
I have hdzero. Will upgraded patch and lung range cp...1 watt freestyle.
I cannot get great range either. I went with this setup to try to save a few bucks and not buy new goggle. After flying...im going to get the dji v2.
272nd subscriber!! You will hit 500 and then 1K in no time you fly soooo good!!! If you can post a giveaway of a drone or anything f.p.v. people always need a more battery's lol. but I'm shure you will hit it even if you don't. Very cool channel
This seems more like a antenna compression. Try using a 5-7 turn helical. That analog HDzero video will have no fuzzy
Thanks for that I'm trying to decide on dji and the decision looks pretty....clear 🤣🤣🤣
clear as DJI 🤪
Clearer than hd zero
🤣🤣🤣😁
lol
thank you for great video. dji looks about 40-60 fps, like you playing on an old pc
Awesome video bro. Great testing 👍✌
great video and content! keep up the flights and videos! subscribed!
Very good video. Exatcly what I was looking for.
Do you do long range? In that case analog or hdzero would be preferable over dji for sure due to the hard limit of the dji system. I’ve seen videos that show great results from hdzero in this sort of use case
@@int3fpv Yeah I am doing kinda midrange flights, like 10-15km. I have analog and this word finde for me while flying in line of sight. But if you going behind stuff the Signal is gone so fast.
Nice comparison, BUT on the analog and hdzero you are looking in to the ground. Only with DJI you are looking straight. This has big impact of signal reception
With the four omni's he has on his goggles, it doesn't really matter if he is looking down or not. That really only applies with directional/patch antennas. I have two onmi's on my right and a TruRc patch antenna taking up both ports on my left. I tend to look down so my patch antenna is mounted 80 degrees up top, when i'm looking down the signal is going straight.
So the DJI system is still holding up :)
Hopefully a V2 one with occusync 3.0 and gps will come out in 1-2 years (not now as the old system is still quite recent)
Looks like your wish is coming true
Wooo whats the music title ?
Ooh I like it.
Thank you for this man! Very well done! But Im not happy with the take away😅... Analog did the best.......! The Dji... then hd zerroooo😬
If you are testing the best some system has to offer why not test the more powerful analog VTX-ses ? You can use something like TBS Unify Pro32 HV or Rush Tank Solo for tests :) Sill way cheaper than other systems transmitters.
This is a fair point, unfortunately it was all I had. Really this was a test between analog and hdzero, with dji thrown in for completeness 😄
Good job with that comparison. I am DJI user and I have a question. You are using 25mbps mode, is it better for penetration? I usually so mid-long range flights and I use 50mbps.
Thanks and congrats for this good video comparing the 3 major systems
I think about the only use for 25mbps is that you can fly with more people at the same time. 50mbps takes up double the channels, so less people can fly with you.
I used 25mbps as it is more similar in bandwidth to hdzero, but yes in theory a narrower band will be less prone to interference - I’ve not tested this between the dji modes but I’m sure someone has. Glad you enjoyed the video
Great video! I’m pretty new to the hobby, and I just received my hdzero 1w vtx, and I was reading that it doesn’t come setup for 1w, and that there is something you need to do to activate the higher power. I’m just curious as to what settings you were running on the hdzero? I can’t wait to see more videos from you. By far the best comparison I have seen yet. Definitely subscribing to your channel after watching this video. Keep up the great work!
Yes you have to flash an unlocking firmware on it and then back to the normal firmware to unlock it. Settings were CH1 at 1w, using the micro v2 camera on 4:3
Would like to see another with long range FPV. Like 3 to 5 miles?
man, this edit is next level. very well done! do you have formal video editing training?
Thanks, had fun making it 🙂. The editing was done by my friend Ben Toogood Media, check the description for his links
+1👍great comparison; has HDZ performance improved since this video release? 💪
Yo, I haven't even finished the video, or started it... Blast this guy out a share to your people's... Make this guy famous, for no reason at all? Sure... Why not... Just because I can see he is trying hard... Love ya Bro.. God bless you in Yeshua Hamashiach Jesus Christ's Name Amen
Well, i sold my HDZERO stuff - VTR, VTX (1Watt, Race) - for a good amount of money. Sure, better than analog.... But penetration and range ist still a problem. So i'm now on dji. No Problems....
If I was a bore, I said that DJI is 1.5 times more powerful than its counterpart and therefore it won. But it's actually a great test. This is beautiful and thank you!
8:13 Helpful bro! Good video 👍
Just subbed
I really don't like the rainbow sparkles of the HDzero static, it bothers my epilepsy.
For pepole that dont know your signal is very much dependent on your output DJI has the highest 1200MW that's why its so great. That doesnt mean its the only system capable of that.
LMFAO @ 5:32 😂🤣
I'm happy that I found your channel. New sub here :)
Awesome buddy
would you go with the V2 googles plus the RunCam Falcon 120 fps or SkyZone O4L plus the new walksnail vrx at 60fps because of the hdmi link ... Thanks and great vids - man ------------
I use HDzero goggles with hdzero and analog mostly 🙂
@@int3fpv I just bought the Skyzone o4l and to get the he zero goggles just not viable to much money would rather buy more builds I love analog it's so cheap when you crash if the dji goggles were not $209 I would stick to analog
@@bengordon7635 analog is loads of fun and cost effective
@@int3fpv I bought the DJI V2 goggles display model for $219 on ebay and the 120 fps falcon air unit on amazon for $130 go put in my protek35 keep my racers analog if the DJI price did not drop I would just stick with analog but that cheap is a no brainer for cinewhoop you want digital when following 4 wheelers or cars any kind of filming
@@bengordon7635 dji + 120fps would be my choice between those two options because of the latency of the walksnail hdmi at 60fps. Unless cost is a factor ofc
It seems like you were able to fly more aggressive with analog and HDZero than DJI. Was that because of latency?
Wasn’t trying to push the limits in that regard during any of the flights, DJI can feel off in places even close up - analog feels connected, dji feels a bit like playing a video game imo but with significantly better image and penetration. Where you get going signal with analog and felt latency in dji is more about disrupting the connected feel than actually stopping you doing anything. Maybe I’ve been flying analog too long 😄
@@int3fpv your flying just looked smoother and more confident on the other systems.
It's all academy for me anyway, as DJI had been a non-starter for me even before HDZero 😝. As a DJI V1 Mini owner, I didn't like some of the stuff they were doing, like configuring the battery boards to die when you try to replace the cells. Really put me off the whole company.
6 months later, I still haven't taken the HdZero VRX out of the box.
Why did I buy this thing?
do you fly Analogue mostly as you seem to fly smoother with it and HDzero is that a feel thing because your use to it ?
yes I fly analog mostly
I think I'm going to stick with analog until my flying gets better. If I'm going to destroy something I would rather destroy a cheaper analog system than an expensive HD one. Once I get confident I will probably go straight to DJI. I don't see any reason to waste time on an inferior digital system. Thanks your video helped me make my decision.
your more likely to "destroy" something if you can't see clearly.. just sayin..
@@BooFPV maybe
noice nate!
This was a good test
But it did look like your control was not as smooth with dji but the video was amazing
Sur le VRX HDzero, il ne faut pas mettre d'antenne stubby.
Whoa is that a little monitor on your radio? I need
OG Mr Steele style lol
@@int3fpv that's cool. Useful? Or more just cool?
DJI: "It's better cause you can see" 🤣
Why are you running 25mbps?
DJI would even perform better on 50Mbps and not on public channel. Great vid, nevertheless.
Yeah thought 25mbps would be slightly more ‘fair’ in terms of bandwidth used, but yes you’re right. Thanks for the comment 🙂
I wonder if there will be a difference in HDZero with the new VRX.
I don’t think so as it’s using the same asic, the ability to have 4 different sma antennas might give more flexibility antenna wise I guess. I’d be able to improve my results by using taller omnis I’d say. I later tried using the supplied direct ufl antenna on the vtx that was supplied instead of the pigtail and lolipop but this made no difference as far as I could see.
DJI, the best!!
Wow what a flightr !!! Now my turn lol
Its not really an apples to apples comparison because of the mW difference but am sure that even at the same Watt rating the dji would still perform better than the HDZero. The dji system is much more sophisticated than the HDZero.
I thought they all looked crap until I relalised I was watching in 240p... Hahaha
The big problem is you look in the ground… your patch don’t work so at hdzero.
DJI all day for me!
Great video - liked at subbed
I have no idea about all of this, but for the:
"DJI - Caddx Vista 1200mw CH1 25MBit, OG DJI 120fps camera, axii antenna upgrade on vrx All running on fettec G4 kiss with IRC Ghost control system"
How much would all that cost approximately? Vague number is ok, I just wanna know if its payable for a normal human.
i have almost exact that setup i started my first purchase at around 1350 euro.
T-Motor FT5 MK2 HD
Radiomaster TS 16s
IRC-Ghost with Ghost Atto Duo receiver
2x Peter the penetrator TX antennas
Dji Goggles V2
TrueRC X2-Air MK II 5.8GHz
Dinogy 1300 MAH 6S lipos
@@MRdeLaat Thanks m8! That's actually a decent price for such a cool hobby! :D Maybe in some years :)
The DJI looks nice but also looks like it is stuttering a lot, not clean flowing video at all
You analog can be better! There's good and bad analog had to tweak mine to get it better!
👍
I am surprised no one mentioned unfair test because Dji the only one has 1200mW
Yes analog was only 800mw also (mainly as this was the only vtx I have). The vista is capable of the higher power output so that’s that people will be using I’m sure. I’ve tested hdzero 200mw alongside analog and it’s a similar result as I have described here. I’ve tried dji at 700mw and again the results are similar
@@int3fpv test like this that makes people miss understanding, doesn't matter analog, HDzero, DJI the power are the same , Power(watt) = Volt X Amp, numbers don't lie, the difference just the hardware and firmware. If you wanted to conduct fair test, use same hardware, vtx, antenna etc and the same firmware, i know it's impossible that's why i just wanted to point out that fair test is impossible.
Well I kinda feel that this was more a test between analog and hdzero (for me at least, as I know what dji is capable of and what it’s pros and cons are) and my general feeling is that mw to mw hdzero has an advantage in the first 60-70% of penetration as the image is clearer and sharper, after that I find the breakup to be unpredictable with the full screen flashes very distracting compared to the more gradual analog breakup. Really all the systems have pros and cons so just use what you think will suit your style of flying
The results would be the same regardless. I came from analogue to DJI and analogue on 600mw is destroyed by dji on 25mw. Don’t hate on the dji because you don’t like them. It’s by far the best system for penetration and image quality. And as he said you can see where you are going
@@randall8686 did i said i hate Dji?, who don't want clear video and good penetration lol, i am saying that SCIENTIFICALLY speaking, ether analog or digital OR computer, microwave, drill, whatever that required electric in it are,,,
Watt/Power = Volt X Ampeare,
what could make DJI so far superior afterall is just its hardware and firmware.
Digital-no return hahah🫡
Where do you live like bando country ?
What about power ?
Is 1000mw (Hdzero) equivalent to 1200mw (Dji) ? (I dont talk about analog)
That's what he used in this test, and you could see the results. DJI can get much better by using 50mbps, but less people can fly at the same time...just a couple, maybe.
@@KOrnhOliO1 missed! I'd love to buy a hdzero vtx (and vrx), but dji is always better.. never fly more than me alone 😉
Anyway, i never give a buck to Dji 😋
@@ArmageddonYT Why? What did they every do to you? Except for giving us all the single best innovation in the history of FPV! I don't get all of the hate! 😩
If you were able to fly DJI FPV every day for a month, and really get used to it, you would be saying that! And that's for sure!
It's such a joy to fly with a crystal clear HD image and amazing penetration of objects! Fucking W O W ! 😎🤘
@@KOrnhOliO1 It's not hate. Even if it looks like.. 😂
It's like Apple.. when you buy it, you buying the handcuff with it 😉
So i prefer, Hdzero, which lets you remain with your analog material.. well, part of..
I'll be patient.. 😉
Comparing the incomparable... I prefere brakeout without lag than no brakeout but huge lag, even your flight aggressiveness change with that lag... That clearly not a win for anyone without bios
Nice comparison mate - +1 Sub from me. I really like seeing developing technologies, but if we're honest, HDZero just isn't quite there yet. They've made some huge strides, and I hope they keep going, but I think anyone flying analog who wants a digital experience should just upgrade to DJI and not look back for now.
Check out my homemade fpv cockpit with the dji system hooked to it and like, share, and subscribe
it took me at least 8 months to finally buy all the parts to get my first drone.
i said to myself, IF i ever plunge into this hobby and spend at least 1500 euro to only get started then i wouldnt take any less than what dji had to offer.
becouse after all that and spending 1500 u want to have at least a good view even if u only care about the gopro footage.
im sure that analog is also bad for ur eyes i have never looked inside goggles that are analog but man all the footage i see online say enough.
how can u ever fly comfortably with all those breakups man.
go for DJI even if u dont know how analog looks like