Microsoft appears to be taking down Minecraft videos on hacked clients.
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2024
- Microsoft appears to be experimenting with AI (Flora) to detect potential EULA breaches, specifically videos that distribute hacked Minecraft clients.
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Unwarranted strikes should completely remove a company's ability to make copyright strikes.
accountability is in short supply nowadays...
maybe people should be making more of it.
stop giving them money and convince your peers....
Unfortunately this can't be done because then UA-cam itself could theoretically be liable for future copyright claims.
At the very least the video uploader should be compensated somehow. Striking a video can really hurt it, there should be some sort of deterrent stopping people from placing false strikes and punishing those who place one.
@@kibbiking9122 I think what they ment was, that this is applied as law, not just on YT. But we all know this would never happen.
Nah. Fully on Microsoft’s side here.
I lowkey forgot phoenix was person, the face was a jumpscare
Face jumpscare
boo
@@1MadJack1 AHH
Hes not a human, its just an AI
I always remember content creators are people, however I do forget they actually have names and faces in real life, so I imagine a real life Minecraft skin.
oh god, the amount of times I've seen the title "Minecraft build HACKS" ...or "CLIENT side mods" they're doomed that's going to be SO many videos to go through.
Or even "beware this mod will hack your client and steal your login"
@@matthewparker9276 oh geez true, really backfires on videos that try to help communities. Hope there isn't too much damage to these channels and it gets fixed/changes quickly.
@@K1nla Not sure if this is a thing, but imagine if they just used the word "Hack" or "Client" alone instead of "Minecraft" and "Hack", it would very likely go farther then the game itself, but i don't think that's the case as of now.
OR this video with its title lmao
@@lucifertempest9566 Nah, _that's too obvious._
This is actually horrifying to know that videos uploaded years ago can suddenly become striked and having your entire channel deleted because the terms and conditions changed. and on top of that, their using an untrained ai to strike these videos based on very few conditions.
For youtube that's just another tuesday.
😅😅😊:;; Don't Read My Name 😎😎😎😎😂;;!!
Sounds like the same situation happened to another beloved edgy UA-camr... Hm... Leafy, anyone?
@@VoidHxnterexcept that he was kind of an ass
this shit is why the ex post facto principle exists in the real world
you cannot imprison somebody just because of a rule you just invented (youd officially have to put a different reason entirely)
ai cannot think, it just cobbles together ideas without rationality
Great, AI is now replacing Microsoft legal team. Hoorayy….. can’t wait for them to replace the Minecraft devs too.
💀
Minecraft 1.22 update: fever dream 💀
I mean like, faster updates right?
@@RandomStuffReally last time i saw A.I make Minecraft it was fever dream
at least they'll actually update the game
microsoft never fails to keep making bad decision after bad decision
Hasn't that been going on for a few years now?
@@creativename773yea probably
no, they make great decisions for immediate self enrichment, for the shareholders.
it seems every big corp is
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me that the only reason Bedrock Edition has a marketplace is cause they want money.
I'm somehow not surprised that Microsoft used a 2 week old bot to check on videos to copyright claim. When you said it, I was like, "Yep, that's something they'll definitely do"
this one is specifically Microsoft, it doesn’t say it is Mojang but Microsoft
2:10 “Microsoft Corporation” not Mojang
Mojang = Microsoft you dingus.
@@SliceOfLife93 No, they are not the same. That’s like saying Pokemon Company = Nintendo
Yh guys my bad
Even after they said there are no gameplay rules, and that servers determine what is enforced
Goddamn it
,,,.:;; Don't Read My Name 😎😎😎😎😂;;!!
That's not a gameplay rule though to be fair, it's how people share the game and the image they paint of it online
A multinational trillion-dollar company lied? Inconceivable.
@@Dontreadmypicture-j7owhy should I copy your parents?
@@boidHacked clients exist for any game, nobody is NOT buying a game because it has one.
I think it's really scummy how videos uploaded in the past can be struck because of rules that were created after they were uploaded. Especially if it means a channel can be shotgunned by multiple strikes all at once because some robot went through their entire back-catalog and nailed them multiple times. There needs to be a system for old videos to get "grandfathered", or at the very least given a warning instead of a strike so they have time to remove them if the claim is legitimate.
Also, using AI to strike videos is cringe, because you ALWAYS get cases like this where the video doesn't actually break any rules, the AI just incorrectly thinks it does.
In actual law it's not allowed to retroactively apply a law. Not sure why that doesn't apply here.
@@Ht9ehtoom Because it’s not a law, it’s terms of service, contract law. Which you usually get an email for that says “this and that will change, by continuing to use the service after you agree to these changes”.
Microsoft has nobody to stop them. They are above any law as long as they are online.
@@SomeCowguy Such a bunch of bullshit. Of course they have to adhere to the law.
@@woalk sure they should, but illegall changes are just another tuesday for them. I dont see anyone going after them or suing them.
As a mod developer, I have been hit with this
What type of mods do you develop?
@@kibbiking9122 seems they got hacked skin packs that crash people and modded bedrock versions.
@@kibbiking9122look at his channel bruh 😭
Forge client mods
Striked because of the word client @@kibbiking9122
If you're that good in coding, stop wasting your time on Minecraft, improve Minetest here and there... it's open source and open to improving and you're not hit with anything.
I think the corporations issuing the copyright strikes should also have a three strikes system and get banned when they submit 3 baseless copyright strikes
And after three strikes, their CEO gets ejected into space.
Three is way too low considering with how many copyright strikes they’re dealing with on the global scale. Mistakes can happen.
That being said bigger and world scale UA-camrs should also be allowed to get more than 3 strikes.
3 is way too low on a big scale, mistakes can happen.
Every corporation wouldn’t be able to advertise on YT then. YT has a financial incentive to prioritize predatory corporate behavior above the needs and wants of us creators.
Good luck with that one. The only reason this site exists is because of these r*t@rd€d companies coming in with their money. If not for that, g••gle would have liquidated it faster than the kids I assume they use as sacrifices under their HQ.
@@Tasorius "Generic CEO name" was the imposter. 99 imposters left.
modern tech companies try not to abuse GPT/text ai challenge
i doubt this is anything gpt-related lol
😅😊😊:;; Don't Read My Name 😎😎😎😎😂;;!!
@@generallyunimportantYep it's not. Let's just say "Clueless company executives try not to replace critical systems with unfinished/undercooked AI models for short term gain" challenge
epic fail
Modern capitalistic greedy companies try not to abuse simplistic AI and ability to do consequence-free public mistakes more like
insane how they're going after channels but not the clients themselves
I'm kinda tempted to make a video with a name like "Free Minecraft Hacked Client" but the video and thumbnail being something completely different, like playing Monster Hunter or something, see what happens
Do it
So I changed the name of a video I don't care for, since Microsoft is doing old videos too I'll see how it does
If you're curious it's one of the roblox videos I did, so if it's gone you know what happened
Replying so I get updated once you let us know
Replying so I get updated too
Me too
Microsoft taking down videos if their innocent or not is crazy
average Microsoft experience honestly
@@zackbot_ real
Well at the very least they're not doing a Nintendo
@@hamnporkgamer they're on the way
😮😅😊:;; Don't Read My Name 😎😎😎😎😂;;!!
Another thing that annoys me (pedantically maybe): An EULA breach isn't itself a copyright issue. Seems like, barring some further details, a DMCA claim could be inappropriate at least in some% of the cases but IANAL.
The eula says they have the right to revoke their permission for you to make videos including Minecraft at anytime.
They already have a copyright in all Minecraft gameplay footage. You could say everyone's videos are infringing but they enforce it selectively, or that they grant you a licence through the EULA which they revoke when you break it or something
@@gyroninjamodder But.... if the videos were made before that was revoked, the videos were still made when it was valid, seems like an area of law that needs exploration at the very least, even if that means some YTer for instasnce needs to fight it in court w/ a lawyer. The more things that can be clarified the better IMO even if that involves legal fights.
@@DanknDerpyGamer You still must have a license for distribution for as long as it's on UA-cam.
Imagine this video gets taken down because its title contains "hacked clients"
UA-cam uses bots to determine copyright/TOS violations, developing and improving those bots for years to follow their specific guidelines to a T, and they STILL get false-positives on a weekly if not daily basis.
What makes Microsoft or any company think that this random AI detector that only just recently came out would be capable of doing any better? Especially with such vague instructions?
All Minecraft videos are copyright 'violations' to Microsoft, this AI is presumably looking for EULA violations. But yes, it's obviously getting that wrong too
They are so far removed from sanity that they barely function as humans, and can't seem to make good decisions... That's what massive corporations do...
Ironically, cracked clients were one of the reasons Minecraft skyrocketed in popularity in its earlier days, before release.
Fancy seeing you here PhoenixSC
It would be quite dubious for the peculiar PhoenixSC to make a dandy appeal to this "fancy" allegation, from forth this peculiar figure has thus lead to Phoenix's inevitable discipline of fancy.
@@ApersonbwompI doth agree, my good sir. It is indeed quite peculiar.🎩☕️🧐
we'll see if this one gets taken down too.
it's almost like automated claims should be against youtube ToS
and that youtube shouldn't assume immediately that the claimant is correct and strike the channel WITHOUT notifying the channel for the chance to appeal or remove the video FIRST
This, it is ridiculous to me that people on UA-cam are considered guilty until proven otherwise by them after the fact, simply if any corporation or its AI just says so.
They tried to distract us with that God awful (A) Minecraft Movie trailer and used it as cover to start using AI to take down videos...
So, uhm... EULA violations are not enforceable, but even if they were, Microsoft would still be committing a crime here, no? This is not a copyright issue, so the DMCA is, by definition, not the correct way of doing it, and abusing it like this *could* get them sued (even if noone will do it, because they're way too big to be allowed to exist)
The hack itself might count as a copyright issue, since it's an unauthorized modification of copyrighted code.
However, I don't know if that means they have a case against the video creators, or just the people who wrote the hacks. Either way, I don't think anyone would be able to take Microsoft to court over it, since, unless I misremember, I recall hearing that MS was at one point able to beat the U.S. government in a legal battle by just... having so much money that they could pay for court costs longer than the government deemed it worth to do the same. A regular ordinary person would stand no chance.
It's messed up.
you are correct, microsoft has no right to the video content, and therefore cannot legally sue for copyright infringement. that means that this is abuse of the youtube copyright system. (correct me if i’m wrong)
Microsoft owns the copyright to Minecraft the game, including any gameplay footage. They choose not to enforce it the vast majority of the time but they're allowed to do it selectively however they like. In particular they choose to enforce it on content that breaks the EULA, so the issue with these videos is that it's inconsistent/surprising/damaging to the community rather than illegal.
I mean, they’re not _actually_ filing a DMCA suit here, they’re just asking youtube to remove it via their reporting system and youtube is removing it
@@speedstyle.daddy gates boots must taste rlly good, right buddy?
Top 10 build hacks-
Minecraft: GET HIM
Who let the furry out of the basement 💀
its crazy they ignored the weird +18 alike miinecraft animation content for years that targeted to children and now taking an action that is not been well considered enough. its weird a company like this making this much red flag/amateur moves.
it really isnt weird. it's pretty common cause all corporations suck
There's a new copyright / strike drama literally every few months. UA-cam needs to change the 3 strikes = termination idea, because the amount of corporate abuse of their systems is absolutely awful paired with it.
Remember how Notch sees cracked and hacked version of Minecraft? He sees it as free advertisement. I miss the good old days.
Oof
waiting to see if this video gets taken down thanks to the title
This is why i hate this "A.I." based system. Because every single people, even the normal players, can get false claim/copystrike by this. Better they had a team of 10 or 20 people, to handle this kind of works.
Or maybe don't let ai take full control. Instead it's a combo with human intervention
AI finds, human curates. Or manual better
I did not expect seeing a high quality bright peenix face on my screen at midnight
Maybe this will get people to move over to calling them "Cheat Clients" or "Utility Clients". The latter is one I prefer over "Hacked Client", as it more accurately describes what it does, as there isn't really any hacking being done. And with the former, it is a term some people have begun using to bypass certain filters and restrictions on platforms that don't want those kind of mods to be distributed there.
most of it would usually fall upon the former, as it is what it is a cheat, the word hack has been misused so much to the point that in this space its lost its intended meaning..
but, servers do have occasinally, different definitions for cheating, some outright allow it except certain features, and do so via server plugins, and some just disallow it alltogether.
Tuned? Upgraded? New experience?
You know, this is actually really funny in a terrible way. An MMO I play (also run by Microsoft) just had to address some rumors that an AI moderation was being used, due to multiple players receiving bans for cursing in chat (it's an M rated game with an option to disable the chat filter) without having been reported.
Rip Fitmc 😭
That website legit looks like such a scam. Most of the site is a wall of buzzwords. They claim they're using an "8-billion parameter LLM" - which is on the smaller side but not terrible. But size alone doesn't make an LLM good at its job. If it is an actual LLM, because from the lack of transparency on there for all I know they just slapped an AI sticker on an 8 year old bot and called it a day.
There's seems to be no review section on their site. They don't seem to really know what they're talking about. Like, they call their LLM "LLM language model" - LLM stands for large language model.
I think automated bot use for sites as big as UA-cam isn't entirely a bad idea- its just too big for humans to deal with. And LLMs might be able to help improve accuracy there. But they'd have to be specific and competent models, which this is clearly not.
This is a crime... I really hope someone takes legal action against Microsoft, no one should let this massive company screw over small creators.
its a crime against microsoft to distribute client without autorization?) even if you are a small creator making a hacked client to promote being a minecraft cheater you should be banned
This is definitely not a crime
@@ns8465 it’s literally not against the eula, it’s that simple.
@@Alsry1 4:34
@@ns8465literally watch the rest of the video.
Also it says explicitly they’re allowed to ban or suspend service. Not submitting false copyright claims. Microsoft doesn’t even own youtube.
here before this video get taken down
Microsoft, April fools was 5 months ago (inspired by a comment on the movie teaser)
Not surprised. They already used AI for years. First was customer support, now this. And to those who think Customer support aint AI, look at the responses you get. Support straight up asked me to share account information with them such as my security questions, PW, etc when I wanted to ask about Migration as to why it took so long since I kept getting errors. But of course the secondary support website is also not actually run by humans. Dont remember the name itself but its a site that aparently connects you with gamers and staff via chat to see if you may come to a conclusion without the help of staff. Which would be fine if it wasnt for the fact that the site they used is an AI site. As in, chatbot AI.
really?? thats a new low. even for Microsoft
I mean I get the reason but thats ridiculous, they should be aware of the issues with doing word banning like that
pretty micro, and pretty soft for Microsoft.
NAHHH I JUST GOT AN AD FOR MICROSOFT FLORA AI AT THE END OF THIS VIDEO
Somebody once said: Law dosent work backwards.
Microsoft:
Law works downwards, rich vs the poor
Goofy ahh microsoft, its so micro, and soft
"edge me til my MicroSoft" 😂
@@HFIAPY wtf
Bro why the most braindead comment got so many likes😭😭
@@SekiroKVXbecause kids & teenagers are stupid*
You know, as an American, seeing this video at midnight and seeing your area so bright kinda confuses me but then I realize there’s other countries lmao
Also, Microsoft is kinda terrible on moderation and legal terms.
Bruh
As an Australian too I love this haha
Yes, it’s very bright outside at 3pm
Same, to me its 2 AM.
@@TheFlaxCompany
Guh
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
Tommyinnits "i paid 35$ for a minecraft hacked client" will *probably* be down because of microsofts bull crap
How I interpret "hacked versions or Modded Versions of the game client" is mods that bundle themselves with the .jar file for the version you are playing (look inside .minecraft/versions), which means that they distribute a modified version of the game client rather than just a separate mod that injects into the game at runtime using Fabric, Forge, etc.
AI needs more time in the oven, STOP TAKING IT OUT AND PLAYING WITH IT WE NEED TO LET THEM COOK
We need to pause our technological progress for a few years and focus on fixing and refining the stuff we already have now.
legit, by taking it out the oven so soon we have fucked it over in the long run
@@grimplaysminecraft746Fixing and refining stuff _is_ technological progress. Very little is genuinely entirely new tech rather than incremental refinements of existing stuff.
ohhhh but that'd be too hard for microsoft apparently. they dont wanna spend any extra money on manual reviewers... boohoo to them
Put your toys down. AI as a plagiarism model should quit getting the support it does, it's a leech that discourages creativity.
I know a youtuber doing some news and personal opinions about dramas that had received 30 strikes, he had to seek help from the company that cooperate with youtube to not get his channel deleted. In the end, they refused to help at the last strike and now he's gone (with another channel)
This falls under breaches of yt's eula actually. Youre not allowed to spam copyright strikes using automatic methods of any kind, and then also falls under fraudulent intent due to falsely reporting videos. Well done microsoft
@@black7594 this is a bot so thats kinda ironic them talking about automatic methods
Bot, stole the comment
Microsoft taking down UA-cam videos feels weird. Why is it weird? It shouldn't be weird.
It's weird because all corporations seem to be run by morons. Who are all these idiots, and why are they in charge of anything at all?
They shouldn't be trusted with even a TV remote...
This demonstrates a huge flaw with using AI to copyright, and with the copyright strike process in place. Seems like AI can trigger a copyfraud class action lawsuit. Well done Microsoft.
Any software engineer can tell you that testing in production is a quick, easy way to have a bad time.
Once again a giant coorperation killing a beloved franchise by their actions.
How
You haven’t even watched the whole video yet bro
@@ThatAsianPenguinbro's talking to himself
This is by no means going to kill the game
@@gesgald2266 Lol, but I was talking about how this dude posted his comment literally 1 minute after the video was posted. Like it’s an 8 minute video, there’s no way you watched it that fast and understand it
Thank you so much PhoenixSC for bringing this to the public attention.
be careful you took alot hard work on the channel 😢
Cyde the redditor
@@ToasterMaybe i make UA-cam videos too
I absolutely hate it when big corporations just straight up use faulty ai to impose restrictions because they are soooo cheap they can’t get a person to do so
The fact that "everybody" uses a "hacked" client doesn't make it less illegal according to the EULA accepted by everyone who ever played Minecraft.
I personally use a **modified** launcher on Java and Bedrock for performance and mod reasons, but it is never a "hacked client" with the intent of take an advantage over other players on a multiplayer context. I think Mojang should clarify that...
Hacked clients are allowed by the EULA
If this gets taken down that means it's real
To be fair in the EULA they clearly state they wish that players don't distribute hacked/modded clients using clients on the other hand should be completely fine.
Reminds me of when the whole coppa act was striking larger UA-camrs for having videos with swearing not being for kids and saw it had retroactively affected past videos , I was swearing while playing Minecraft for a few years and so I had deleted all of my videos at the time (in the moment I completely forgot about being able to private them so lost a 9k view video)
As a Minecraft creator, I've been hit with this TWICE
FunFact: Both of them were years old.
greaaaaat. now we gotta worry about a video that might be called something like "minecraft building life hacks for october" and suddenly getting flagged by a dumb AI
You know it's a good sign when Microsoft is relying on or copying UA-cam's VERY reliable AI algorithm that definitely has not made any mistakes whatsoever
Compared to what they are actually using, UA-cam's copystriking AI is practically a genius.
The world trying not to become more dystopian challenge impossible
well time to start calling them cheat clients again that was their original name anyway
Bah microsoft are trash. Here I am trying to get my hacked account back and the system is saying that literal card info from a purchase, console network ID and other important info isn't enough to prove my identity... and the chat service gave a bot that said I would be contacted via email within 72 hours (3 days) and it's been over 3 weeks. With moving I haven't followed it up but still...
Friendly reminder that, unlike Windows 11, Linux does not require an online account to use, and does not shove all your data up into Microsoft's servers.
@@Cyfrikbut those people will continue using windows, it's pointless trying to change their mind
@@Sand_WraithPL There's always a chance someone listens, whether that's the person being addressed, or someone else scrolling through the comments who doesn't know better options exist, or just needs a push in the right direction.
A big problem I have with all of this is what if you're making a video just documenting various hacks? There are many youtubers documenting just what the hacks do, the history of hacks, and various dangers, etc. They are not actually promoting the hacks. Also, there are probably many hacks that many people are completely fine with them being used, since they're being used fairly (this is speculation, though). Microsoft's AI can't tell the difference between "here's a malicious hack and here's how to get it" and "this is the history of a bunch of hacks."
The main thing I'm thinking about with this is that I'm not afraid of AI itself. AI is very clearly stupid, and can't do much at all when on its own. I am afraid of humans *putting* AI in charge, and then AI screwing up from there. This is exactly what's happening; Microsoft is putting a faulty AI in charge, and the AI is now screwing up and potentially ruining many youtubers' lives.
Basically what already is going on with UA-cam screwing over history channels because they report on historical events that are not advertiser friendly. UA-cam is not able to differentiate between a video discussing mere facts and a video that is being controversial for the sake of it.
Why should we expect a third party, Microsoft, to do any better when the tools they use are more limited, yet also threaten channel deletion?
Hacking isn't against the Minecraft EULA, there's no such thing as a 'malicious hack' and you're allowed to make videos promoting hacks. What's not allowed is _cracked_ clients which let you play without an account (piracy), and modded clients which contain a copy of minecraft itself rather than eg downloading a copy from mojang in the installer. The latter is quite common (even PaperMC is distributed as a monolithic package) so some of these videos might technically breach EULA, but their AI was presumably meant to focus on cracked clients as they would contact Paper/Meteor/etc directly if that was the problem.
Now we wait for this video to be striked
So Microsoft getting rid of hackers could mean they might make a official survival server, or they just wanna end hacking! Not sure what this means for 2b2t, mixed feelings
This is about cheaters, not "hackers", hacking is an entirely different thing
It's more about piracy
Maybe we should replace "Hacked" with "Special" and "Client" with "Clientele" or one of these words or maybe just simply "Thingy so it would be "Special Thingy"
customer
buyer
purchaser
shopper
consumer
user
patient
patron
regular
habitué
frequenter
clientele
patronage
public
market
trade
business
punter
vendee
emptor
interface. special minecraft interface :3
@@generallyunimportant perfect
It shouldn't matter if it's in the EULA or not. Mojang shouldn't have the ability to remove whatever video they want from UA-cam.
It would be the same as me going into a Walmart and breaking their rules or TOS or whatever, and then I get banned from Walmart _(which would be all fine and understandable of course)_ but then Walmart also had the ability to ban me from ever shopping in a GameStop again. It's not how the world should work.
So this is just as much on UA-cam as it is on Mojang.
there's a term for this, it's called something to the effect of encrappification. I can't believe that it's managed to infest the copyright system even more.
not to be that guy but not quite
"enshittification/encrappification"---formally known as "planned obsolescence"---refers to the phenomenon of companies making their products of deliberately lower quality and durability (usually without adjusting price) to coerce customers into either buying another copy of that same product sooner than they otherwise would've, or buying the more expensive, (supposedly) higher quality version of that same product once it no longer functions the way it should
as for what MicroPenis is currently doing, I would just call this cutting costs, as they clearly don't want to spend any resources either hiring and paying humans or better train the AI to do... whatever tf they're trying to do here
AI is not ready why do big corporations keep throwing AIs into everything like theyre ready??? 😭
Microsoft is using AI to copyright strike videos on UA-cam(which is owned by Alphabet inc. and NOT Microsoft) over a EULA issue on talking about the INFORMATION regarding unofficial 3rd party content for Minecraft. Not even making the clients, simply TALKING about them.
Anyone else see the problem here?
Microsoft does not own UA-cam, Microsoft is abusing someone else’s system to silence anyone who dares go against their arbitrary rules and beliefs.
This is not only scummy, but also TURBO illegal(especially here in the United States, where such fraud and illegal censorship is a federal crime)
Also it likely goes against UA-cam’s own ToS for illegal takedowns.
imagine this video gets taken down accidentally
atp, it won't be a matter of time til Microsoft copyright strikes anyone who makes minecraft videos
Reminds me of that time when that weird company masqueraded as Nintendo and struck a bunch of Kirby videos
Actually, automating claims like this and using a "generic" asset for a takedown claim (not creating a new one) is against UA-cam's TOS!
Seed I remember you lol. The asset isn't really generic, their claim to copyright in the video is that it contains gameplay footage of their game. Automated claims I agree though
@@speedstyle. Still against YT's policies.
UA-cam needs to add something to their EULA about not using AI for strikes. That should be a permanent ban.
I also thought about a ban but I think you can still make copyright strikes even without an account. So this wouldn't work unfortunately....
They need to get black listed by the UA-cam support so every claim gets checked individually by a person.
These creators should enter into a class action against Microsoft for filing false dmca claims
Better yet, UA-cam should be held legally and financially responsible for all abuse of their copyright claim system
@@aetheralmeowstic2392 Not better yet. The problem here is microsoft. Yeah, youtubes copyright system is broken, it has been for a while, but the issue here is microsoft.
@@aetheralmeowstic2392 i feel like youtube losing a class action would be a much worse thing than microsoft losing like 200 million dollars or whatever
since, yknow, it's the biggest video hosting platform right now?
@@generallyunimportant UA-cam's monopoly getting broken up would be a good thing, imo. It's gotten too big and too singular, able to do whatever management wants without having to listen to its users, because they have nowhere else to go.
@@aetheralmeowstic2392 in this case, UA-cam isn't liable, that's not always the case but in this case it isn't
I can’t wait for everyone to start saying hack Ed cloint to avoid copyright strikes
hecked customer 🔥🔥🔥
This video's title has the keywords in it lmao, beware peenix
Oh I bet he did it intentionally
@@VideoGameMontagination true
Phoenix SC talking about hacked clients is crazy
I noticed your video having minecraft, hacked and client all in one title. Risky business out here ☠️
There are over ten thousand games and movies about corporate dystopias, and yet people still are shocked when they see it happen in real life, like they've never seen anything like it.
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Minecraft owes some of it's success to use videos and Microsoft is effectively stopping players and content creators from sharing videos. The videos are free advertising for all things Minecraft.
I don't think it's actually legally binding to strike content created with an account that didn't follow the EULA. That would be like blizzard taking down your twitter account for being naughty in WOW. The EULA cannot dictate the monitization or creation of content using the work. This is ultimately why steam won their lawsuits about the rights of ownership over dota, which started as a mod of another game that stated that mods could not be comercialised in the EULA. The courts deemed that you cannot dictate to players once they cease using your framework, which would extend to video creation, as that is beyond the purview of minecraft, and therefore microsoft.
They can strike the download pages and potentially people that promote the use of them (sketchy legal grounding there, with little legal precedent), but they cannot blanket ban content featuring, discussing or using hack clients. They can try to ban the minecraft accounts, but that is the limit of their reach in that regard. They should be more careful if they don't want to get sued.
The EULA _can_ dictate the creation of content using the work, they own copyright in all Minecraft gameplay footage and can enforce infringement selectively or equivalently grant you a limited/revocable licence to it as long as you follow the EULA. Dota was a mod that contained no copyrighted content from the base game
@@speedstyle. Legally speaking, they actually do not own the "copyright in all minecraft gameplay". That has never been proven in a court of law, meaning that is actually considered to be "legally grey", or in otherwords, not expressly legally binding.
They own the rights to the code, assets, models and artwork, but gameplay has never been proven to not be a transformative medium. Until there is sufficient case law on the subject, it is not legally binding, and can very easily be challenged in a court of law. They have to prove that gameplay counts as a market replacement for their product or service. Since you get a different experience from the product than you do from a video, they will likely lose that case. Something like a telltale game might actually win that case, though. This will likely cause a fracture in definitions that would lead to "interactive movies" and "video games" needing to be made distinct.
It's a risky game to play, too, since if microsoft loses, they will have even less control over the spread of "harmful" minecraft content, and if they win, people will stop making gameplay content for fear of being sued for making "market replacements" of the game in question.
@@Handles_AreStupid They do own (a, not the) copyright in all gameplay, but fair use might allow you to use it despite that copyright. It's also a defence which _you_ would have to prove, not vice versa. Whether it forms a market replacement is one important pillar of that but not the only one - I hope it does eventually get decided in that direction, but I couldn't predict for certain and until there is such a precedent they're within their rights to submit takedowns like these.
Mojang and Microsoft just can't get one thing right, it's insane
Wild and why am I watching this at midnight? Who knows
Same. I gotta go to bed😭
And once again it has been confirmed: "A Artificial Intelligence should only be capable of creating suggestions NEVER SHOULD IT JUST BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITHOUT ANY QA"
mojang must fix this
they can't
how would mojang do anything? microsoft is doing this and im pretty sure microsoft owns mojang
Here before this video is taken down for having "hacked" in it
i love being Polish and seeing this vide in the morning.
I love being American and seeing this past midnight
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Fyi phoenix is a European c:
Name two things that go together better than handwavey corporate language and tons of people getting completely screwed over. I'll wait.
Why is pheonix’s comment section one of the only normal comment sections on youtube?
microsoft abusing copyright system is crazy
Why did this upload at 2:00 am? Is it a time zone thing?
He lives in Australia
likely a timezone thing
its 9 am for me
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The bigger problem of this is the censorship it enables. Like we already struggle with false claims every day by this point but imagine how many that would turn into when Companies start to automate certain buzzwords to be not allowed in connection to their products. Imagine a movie review gets automatically claimed and struck when the title is "X MOVIE WAS BAD!" or something.
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I can understand companies using the copyright strike system for legitimate reasons (such as people uploading film or music without being transformative). Taking down videos showcasing hacked clients for games should not and is not what this system is used for. This is just another classic example of a petty company knowingly abusing the system to take down content that they do not like without any repercussions at all. Sickening behavior from both Microsoft for acting in bad faith and UA-cam for allowing companies to get away with it such behaviors.