‘You Try It Then’ | Ronnie O’Sullivan Tells Referee To Take Shot! | Eurosport Snooker
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2022
- Watch the amazing moment as Ronnie O’Sullivan tells referee to take shot amid placement row!
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At this level, fractions of a millimeter are incredibly important.
At my level it's about pacing your beer properly and attempting not to miscue.
Not to forget, avoiding hitting the low-hanging table lights with your cue.
Or accidentally flinging the Cue ball off the table.
Taking a shot at the right table after you get back from a piss.
@@theimperiumofman102 or onto the other players table
You're better than me then!
At my level it's about having fun and enjoying whatever chaos ensues.
With all the technology today they should have an overhead red light that puts a spot exactly where the ball goes
My exact thoughts a couple years ago ! Just seems logical right ? !
No shit. I agree. There are ball launch monitors for golf that give a boatload of information. But snooker has caveman tech for ball placements. Lol. Makes me laugh.
I legit said the exact same thing when I was watching the frame
There is no money in snooker, they cant even pay big amount for a 147
Is Ivan the terrible a reference to the chess player or a Russian tsar?
Hats off to Judd for cooperating.
True professionalism
Yeah...I like Judd a lot as well. He brings a lot of professionalism to his game.
But let's face it, the point of a ref is to not include the opposition, because that would put them in a bad spot. Either he insists on his right which makes him look bad in front of he audience or he caves which hurts his chances. Imagine a footballer taking a dive and the ref asking them whether they were fouled.
Ronnie bullying him, in a professional way.
@@DrZaius3141 Football is not snooker, at all, in any way shape or form.
@@DrZaius3141 snooker players DO call their own fouls (push shot, hand on ball etc), so that’s a terrible example
In a similar amount of time, Ronnie hit his fastest 147 🤯
@@salas..5686 Comparison, brother.
Sometimes I do believe there is a Mr. Bean inside Ronnie O'Sullivan haha 😂
What are u hinting at dude?
@@patrickmurf8743 he looks like Rowan Atkinson, when he pulls faces.
@@chaelsonnen7947 Well..yeah! He just looks like Rowan Atkinson in general, lol.
This would've made a great Mr Bean skit
@@cameronpeterson6734 facts
I cannot believe snooker doesnt have some sort of technology that is able to place the ball exactly where it was before. its 2022
They do in China.
@@jb894 Yeah, Hawkeye went to China as an exclusive... it's also why we don't see those the 3D recreations of the table layout anymore.
@@maxington26yeah. Hopefully we will get back to China sometime...it would be nice to see the players back there.
Like placing a chip in the cue ball
@@mansi79246 probably much easier ways of doing it lol.
The best scene ever would have been: "You try it then". The judge takes the cue, plays a slightly curved ball which hits the red perfectly and returns to the bulk end tightly. "You understand?" (:-)
the secret ending
Very much the golden bear making that epic putt. ua-cam.com/video/u9KrMQDU94g/v-deo.html
Judd gained a lot of respect there .
Yes man 👏
Tbh Judd has massive respect anyway. Him and Ronnie are 2 of the best players out there
I'm sure your "respect" means the world to him! LOL
@@guistmagik2506 Yeah, and Jimmy is practicing his balance when standing now - all thanks to you 👍 well done , what an absolute legend you are
@@guistmagik2506from his fans it means everything to judd....without them he doesn't sell tickets
When Ronnie finally hangs up his cue, I'll always be rooting for Trump, especially after the sportsmanship he showed here.
Nice to see you here bro 😎
I’ve come across your channel many times. 👍🏻
Same here..
Hes got his 7...cemented his place.
Now onto TRUMP.
As long as YOU don't use the vote word and trump in the same sentence Susan wokii won't delete your comment
You'll be rooting him more like
Anyone would think this is 1972 not 2022 with the painful way they do this.
No "foul and miss" in 1972 lol
It was introduced in 1995
@@sltga1254 Well done mate
After each shot when balls have stopped they should use a infrared light and take a picture, when they need to reposition balls just project the image and place the ball in circle with no light
leave technology out of perfectly fine old school stuff
without that theres a moments like this and many other that technology takes away @@yruafredo2990
Infrared? Why? How do we heat up the balls to differentiate from the table?
Wouldn't a regular picture suffice?
So many questions not enough coffee
"I still can't see the red" is what they're going to write on Ronnie's tombstone one day :D
And on John Virgo's, "where's the cue ball going?"
Snooker is a funny old game but those fractions and millimetres mean a lot especially in The final of world championships.well done to both players for one of the best displays of snooker from both players.What a ring ding match what a champion Ronnie is what a great sportsmanship from Judd Trump....
I love how the players take this seriously, you can see the respect they have for each other, hope to see an amazing final, but no doubt on that ! Greatings from France
but Ronnie has no respect for the refs
What, do they have the snooker on TV in France?
@@oleggorky906 yeah but it's not free, bbc iPlayer is not available here.
@@oleggorky906 it is broadcasted even in Hungary
@@Valou_56 That's a shame. They should make it free to air to get more exposure.
Thanks for replying.
Judd came of age as a sports personality in this tournament. Up against it he battles through, playing a all time classic match with Williams and then that stirring fight back in the final. We got to see the real Judd…and everyone really liked him! The future of the sport is in good hands.
the video is missing the beginning where they should explain how the situation arose
Could you explain it?
I'm here for exactly that answer. Feed us.
@@gregoirefourniermontgieux2033I had to find the full video myself and look up the rules.
So Judd broke and Ronnie's shot on the red was tight after. He asked the ref and Judd to check that he could see the red and had a possible shot on it (in case it was replaced). He took it and missed everything, ending up on the middle left of table.
Now the ref replaces the ball back to where it was originally, as this is apparently the rules they are using when there is a foul and a miss. Then Ronnie is not happy with the placement being the same.
@danielhenderson7050 Oh wow okay ! (I don't know much about snooker, only the basics rules. Thanks for the explanation !
Although the cue ball afterwards seemed more to the left than it's original position, Judd agreed with Ronnie. Huge respect to him for that.
I agree but the point was he could hit the red first time so the cue ball had to be put in a way he could hit 8t again no matter how u see it
It was also too far off the baulk cushion which disadvantages Ronnie. So all in all the angle was probably very similar.
You are true. The ball was slightly left
Both of those refs have issues with the games accuracy, both of them think that anyhow will do, which is totally unprofessional!
Or follow a lesson 'how to talk with respect to the referee'
one of the things i love most about pro snooker,,,, "the sporting integrity" !! no other sport in the world has this honesty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Golf…
Plenty of sports have..stop getting all smug !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!( I love an explanation mark me..🤣🤣
for the most part golf has it
Rugby at the highest level does! And those are huge guys in a very physical game, yet the level of discipline and respect towards the opponent and referee is incredible.
Other than the match fixers
Ronnies temper and sense of humour have aged like a fine wine, so that now he’s just hilarious all the time and he knows he is.
Good for him. He deserves his happiness and success
Love the way Jud is reacting as well.
Good sport.x
Also bcoz Ronnie is his childhood hero
One of the best snooker interactions and plays I've seen. Hats off to both
Judd is a gentleman 👏
Ronnie shows a better grasp of comic timing than most stand-ups these days
he's a natural performer, except when he's not in the mood...
Proper dude!!! But what a legend of a wizard of snooker!!!!!!
the issue was it wasn't far back enough! Even 1-2cms further back would change the angle and allow him to see the red. They actually went too far right to allow ronnie to see it, because they knew he could originally. Really poor by the ref and video helper.
Perfectly said 👌
@@expertrobert3547 being able to see the red and not see the red is a huge difference.
@@expertrobert3547 you've misunderstood mate. We're talking about the position of the cue ball, not the red. where he hits the red will always be the same, a thin edge. It's the white that needs to be moved back.
@@expertrobert3547 that would be true if the balls were all in a straight line. Becasue they're at an angle, the distance the white is away from the blue makes a difference. Yeah, left/right affects it WAY more, i agree! But that's not the point, as the left/right movement is putting the white in the wrong place!
@@expertrobert3547 literally everyone has agreed it was fractional. It made the difference between being able to see the red and not see the red, as agreed by both players.
You saw the shot when O'Sullivan finally took it? It JUST missed the blue. Fractions matter.
Don't know what more to tell you, don't know what you keep replying.
Ronnie could have done a 147 in that time.
The problem with this whole senerrio is that there is no way to remove the ref's ego from the equation.
There I've made the likes on your comment equal to 147. 147th like for you.
Ebdon could have done a 7 in that time.
@@PicnicAtTheTesco He would have had to pot a red first so he would have run out of time.
@@78tag reds, browns… all the same to ebdon
weird that nobody ever mentions the marker, because he's the one in control and he kept saying 'just a fraction' and told the ref to stop adjusting, when it was shown on tv there's significant difference and the position still needs to be adjusted. do these markers not see what we see on tv or they're simply not good enough for that job? it's fine when a fraction doesn't play a role, balls aren't perfectly placed, but in this situation it really does, and it's so obvious
These moments are priceless.
just give the referees an iPad or some sort of screen that has the overhead image of the last shot on top of the live camera.
that way they don't have to go back and forth about the balls location.
i think a 2nd ref watching on a monitor is supposed to tell the match ref EXACTLY where the balls are to placed......
but as far as i know he is not allowed to approach the table itself to clear matters up as it were
of course it is possible for EVERY ball on the table to be replaced which is of course the snookerr ref's worst nightmare !
@@grantross2609 yeah I get that, but that takes time and communication.
and in Ronnie's case, not really accurate.
so I figured it would be better to let the referee know without any help
Ronnie is the man 😂😂
I miss snooker already, nothing has come close to this tournament, with the Rocket in it, it has everything for an avid snooker fan
Ronnie: "You try it then?" Would have been funny if the ref did take Ronnie's offer, hits the red and left the cue ball tight on the baulk cushion and said: "See Vonnie, I hit de ball"
Ronnie would have accepted that if he did, with a laugh. That would have been nice. Even if he did it and hit the blue, or missed, he could've gone, no you're right. Instead he accuses ronnie of making a rude gesture later causing trump to complain about the ref.
I have never watched snooker in my life and have no idea what's going on here. But UA-cam thought I need to see this so I watched it in its entirety.
Just what a thoughtful player Ronnie is, being able to foresee this situation and even invited Judd to have a look cuz he knew he was going to need it. Fantastic Rocket! :)
Referee: Perfect?
Ronnie: Far from perfect.
Judd respect and love Ronnie like brother and teacher, I love both of them so much..
Great sportsmanship all round.
Pause at 4:24 - nearly a half ball difference in position. The referee and players should be able to see a monitor and comparison between current/original position until it’s blob on perfect. Even if they disagree with how the shot looks to the naked eye when looking through the cue ball towards object ball.
Ten year ago Ronnie would of just smashed them all up out of aggravation 😂
I feel like the referee was trying on purpose to get a rise of ronnie- get himself in all the papers, big ratings, bookmakers making a lot of money.
It is "would have", not "would of". Why do I see people make this stupid mistake so often?
It's a fraction lol! Yeh what fraction?! Love these commentators and ron..and judd! You get a flash of ronnies anger sometimes it's brilliant. Old as time son!
Snooker is sooo relaxing to watch, and you are watching here lituarly the 2 best snooker players in the world
Sullivan looked like Mr Bean when he told the referee to take the shot 🤣
Can't believe in 2022 there isn't an easier way of dealing with this! I don't even watch snooker, here by chance yet so much respect for all of them involved!
Off memory there is a method to do this, a youtube channel "stuff made here" made a video which the technology could be used, through an overhead camera. However the main issue that i can see with this is that in the short term there would need to be markers, and this may affect how the frame is played or distract the player.
I love the way Judd had no hesitation whatsoever in getting involved. He was on his feet in an instant. Funny.
Respect amounst the best in the game. They want to win but only when its fair...True gentelmen
Great players! My top three are Ronnie, Judd and Williams. Great Entertainment too.
Looking at the before and after, he had a much better view of the ball after. The before image looked like the cue ball was closer to the cushion and to the left from our view. The commentator was saying it needed to go more to his right but i think he was getting the before and after mixed up or his left and rights.
Ronnie Diva
Great sportsmanship from Judd.
"back a bit, to me a bit, up a bit" Lads, just give the ref a monitor and a three position switch.. before, after and both superimposed. ..just like the guy in his booth has, but give it to the referee ffs.
Exactly
I’ve only been saying this for 20 years
they like to be able to influence games ;)
Ball should have been half an inch further back - making red visible.
Exactly!! The TV pics of before the first shot has been made clearly showed this, so why on earth couldn't the clown in the "spotters box" and the bigger clown who was referring put it back in the correct place?!!....Tinpot officials these days, the standard has fallen so much due to the number of tournaments all around the world these days.
Two generational snooker talents. This was epic the ref bless him when he said no, no.😂
I think adding some more advanced technologies to snooker is like the VAR in football.. this is the fun ...like, we cannot enjoy it without some of these moments !!
I was watching that and was in tears 😢
Trump was like have it where you want it but just carry on!
all this for the Netflix special 😂
i do like how nice the ref is
Ronnie was on edge all tournament
what people need to realise is that a good snooker player would not want to gain an advantage an would equally tell the ref to move it into a more difficult position if it needed to be there, Ronnie is not a cheat, he doesn't need to be
Yeah Mark Selby wouldn't have invited Judd to look before he played the shot then would've kicked up a fuss til he could see full ball lol
@@jedross2136 That must be why he isn't the best in the world. Bit of a pushover.
Then ask the ref to clean the ball 😂
The referee is so adorable
I like how Trump is cooperating. Great spirit, great lad.
Trump is trumpeting his way to Trumpton
O'Sullivans first attempt only just missed the blue and then missed the red. The referee replaced the cue ball in the wrong position which benefited O'Sullivan and he hit the second time. Trump just agreed with it all because he didn't want confrontation.
Trump shouldn't have been involved there. He just kept on moving it to the red. Power dynamics here. How even Judd submitted to Ronnie. If it was Selby, he would have taken the chance to piss Ronnie off and gain some advantage of that.
Spot on, Trump should have refused to interact, O'Sullivan has done that in the past and in Trumps place HE would have refused to get involved here too
Poor refereeing to involve Trump, O'Sullivan knew if he involved Trump as another player it would benefit him and it did
Hes totally wrong as a supposed bbc/wst referee and has attitude towards ronnie 🙄 I would have told him to get on with his job ffs !!!!!
o'sullivan just tries to throw his weight around. poor sportsmanship. he loves to go on about Selby making things scrappy and while yes that makes for poor viewing, at least Selby doesn't try to bully other players and the referee. Judd dealt with that super well, unfortunate that the ref couldn't contain the situation. But honestly if it weren't for his brilliance on the table everyone would hate him. A genuine shit of a man. good luck to Trump
To me it seemed to be basically on the same spot, just a fraction closer to the center and a tiny bit farther from the cushion. Happens all the time when repositioning the balls like that.
Not necessarily a big deal, imo. But surely there are some mind games going on, this time from Ronnie himself, maybe Trump shouldn't have been that accomodating.
My biggest regret in life. I used to live in Sheffield for 5 years whilst I was at uni. I graduated went back home abroad and literally the next summer I got into snooker...
It seems that O'Sullivan is the player most regularly caught up in these disagreements.
His reputation and support from spectators puts extra stress on the match officials.
Whilst he undoubtedly has amazing talent, his general etiquette leaves a lot to be desired.
He is lucky Ali Carter is a level headed gentleman. You wouldn't see him try his bully boy tactics with Stephen Maguire.
a fraction +a fraction + a fraction + a few fractions = 2 meters to the left (as they see the table)
He definitely could see it before the last couple of fraction moves given that he ended up hitting it quite thick considerin
He swerved it slightly with right hand side if you bothered to look! Clown
@@Woody991 doesnt really look like it. Struck the cue ball in the middle
Gentleman's sport
When he said he is hard work haha
Usually Ronnie would have a 147 knocked in while we was watching this clip..😁
The ref's a goose. Where's Desi?
And puts the cue ball back where it was!!! 👌💥
This felt like a fever dream
Terrible attitude from the referee. When he said “yes, perfect” he sounded so patronising. Also he believed Judd that it had to go right but not Ronnie. He looks intimidated by Ronnie and doesn’t want to argue with him so instead of listening he is like “yes perfect” “fraction” to end the conversation quickly
My thoughts exactly. 👍
@@kooljokeskool359 Have you got a link?
I don't think there is any love lost between Ronnie and Olivier Marteel. There was an incident during the match where Olivier went to Ronnie's corner and spoke to him about something which Ronnie categorically denied.
Yes as a ref you’re not just there to pick balls out - you have to be able to lead and facilitate but be firm and co-operate all at the same time when necessary
100%
Why dont just give the judge a pad in hand with pervious still image and live image overlapped, just like what the station do,
then the judge place the ball on his own and no objection at all
because that would involve too much common sense
@@Matthew-bu7fg what does it do with common sense? Just compare with previous situation,in fact they are doing the same thing, but not by judge,by someone on panel outside the table, then instruct the judge to do so,which is very stupid
@@leealex3692 relax i'm agreeing with you 😂
Che carattere ,! Grande Ronnie👍
it's a sign of the times. The players know more than the officials.
That is recognised by snooker rules, but not by this ref.
Dennis Taylor on commentary was insufferable when this happened. Had an 'it doesn't matter' tone to his words in a World Championship Final no less. "If only O'Sullivan hits it off the side cushion and plays into the pack we'd be saved of this". But the ball needs to be placed in the exact position it was in because O'Sullivan wants to play his specific shot, doesn't it Mr Taylor? Very happy he's being shifted out by the BBC
That's a rare miss from him I think. I mean compare him to Hendry! It feels like he's about to say '.... You stupid prick' after every criticism of a shot hahaha
Judd is such a good sport...
Can't believe there isn't some multi camera system for this level of competition yet
Best Video ever.
The ref was poor throughout the final, I’ve never seen so much movement around the players whilst they are taking a shot by a referee than this fella….
i am confused why Eurosport can't even get the spelling right
What spelling?
@@ravnexx8354 Tt in the title instead of It.
So it's a real sport that requires extreme precision and they are still not using lasers on top of the table that tracks every ball along with cameras, very smart people.
That was probably the most memorable match I've seen to date. I'll never forget that long hug after the game and I wish I knew what it was that Trump said to make O'Sullivan so very emotional.
Just the usual added drama to entertain the audience. Ronnie could hit that red off of two cushions, if he wanted to. It is all drama.
he could, but it is his choice if he doesn't want to play it. By doing that he gives Judd the advantage in the safety battle - why would be willingly do that when he can play the red thin and get back into baulk?
@@RafaelMichaelJackson It's not his fault no one else is interesting in the game.
Does anyone know what the referee “saw” Ronnie do right at the end of the session?
@@lukes8719 is that it?
The referee made a scene because of a swear word?
I heard what Judd Trump said
“You could’ve said something after the game”
And he was spot on
One of a kind
Ronnie was right the hole time
Everytime ronnie vs a ref ronnie always right and he needs to explain the right positions after all they have all the technologies.
🙏
The referee should decide, he should not even have to ask both players if it's alright, it's his job to do it correctly. If that is too hard for a referee, then technology should be implemented. Simple as that! I am not complaining about the referee, this is just what World Snooker has to decide, the fact that the referee needs to check with both players if they are ok with it, it's just absurd.
Wrong
this was funny as hell lol
So funny. Even got my mrs interested in snooker!
You have to get it exact , if Ronnie O’Sullivan says it not in the right place it isn’t , you have to remember you are dealing with the “best snooker player there has ever been”,quoted by Hendry and Davis. He started the tournament as if he had already won it , Trump played a good game , some fantastic shots , but it didn’t affect how Ronnie played, I think Trump was affected by his own mistakes, but he will get over that in time, and will also be seen as an all time great, he is a fantastic player
Well that's what happens when a man like this ref idiot is there,where d the snooker body get him from?
You try TT then
T_T
Referee voice: Fraction
Ball placement: 0.00001mm 🙄
As Ronnie said to Judd, the ref is hard work. Like getting blood out of a stone. When it’s out of control like that the players should be allowed to replace the ball position themselves in exceptional circumstances like this if they both agree
@@Crashawsome He wasn’t wrong because he kept saying he couldn’t see the red to clip it like in the first attempt. He would’ve played a different shot if he couldn’t see it in the first place. The best player in the world wouldn’t lie
I'm only recently getting in to snooker, can someone please explain the context and what's going on here?
But is part of the issue here down to O'Sullivan going out of his way to make the situation awkward for the referee as he had initially decided he did not need to react to O'Sullivan's request for added scrutiny prior to taking the shot?
Nah, O'Sullivan simply saw the situation coming. I think he was perfectly polite, in a situation where he could previously see the edge of the red by a fraction, but no longer could see it after each time the ball was replaced. Not really anything controversial.
Yeah Ronnie was probably a bit pissed that the ref didnt have a proper look before when he asked him too. so was making a meal out of it to prove a point. They obviously dont like eachother lol
O’Sullivan has previous for not assisting refs when they’re trying to replace the ball, it’s how he does it, he doesn’t help himself. There’s not much more the ref can do there, if you want to be frustrated at anyone it’s the marker who can see what is actually required.
And we moan about VAR in football 😂
Be the 'R. R.' tonight Ronnie - ignore everything only the performance.
I've never seen a referee get so involved and I've been watching snooker since the 70's.
The best referees are the ones you don't notice. This guy should not referee at the top level again
???? Referee not repositioning the ball correctly and then giving O'Sullivan grief over it?
This should be his last final if he messes the players around like that.