What did I think of Joker: Folie à Deux, and should you watch it? #movie #moviereview #joker #jokerfolieàdeux #joker2 All Background Music is from Composer Hildur Guðnadóttir
Didn't believed the critics, didn't believed the ratings, so i watched it... and i wish i didn't. I'll just pretend this movie never existed, much better that way instead of the disgrace it did to the first one's legacy.
The movie doesn't let Arthur experience the full consequences of his actions. The actual consequence would be for him to live with the fact that he made society turn for the worse even though he personally can't abide that people are e mean to each other (the laughing tick he has). But he never finds himself in that position, he never is being confronted with this impact he actually has on society and finally he gets the easy way out.
When I meant by consequence at the end, I meant the… spoiler… death at the end. He gets killed for deciding to not be Joker anymore, which I would consider to be a huge consequence. But I do see your point here. Maybe it could’ve been even more interesting if he was kept alive longer to see the full extent of his negative effect on the world and on himself. That could’ve also been cool.
Okay I'm in the minority but I do like this movie because it essentially destroys the power fantasy of the Joker and what the first one ended up meaning to so many people the second one is basically here's what would happen if a really depressed dude committed murders and it's just pretty much a realistic top to bottom for trail of what would actually happen to somebody who's like him he's not some Rogue he's not some Champion he's not some Society tearing down whatever he's just a guy who lived a pathetic life and died a pathetic death and in between that he got to see how his actions did affect other people's lives and I think one interesting part about that is that he could not fathom the idea that he negatively affected other people's lives like the guy he let go in the first movie essentially this sequel says no this is just the story of a very sick human being and the people who projected something on to him that he wasn't both in the audience and in the movie were only ever going to be disappointed because he's just Arthur flick
I thought it was excellently done! I knew what Todd Phillips was doing all along right from the first one. Sounds like you "Joker fans" had different expectations of what he did, and now it really burns you inside that you didn't get what you expected. Tod Phillips called it JOKER, by the way... not THE JOKER. Yes, it is a possible origin story, being that the Arthur Fleck character was only an influential figure to THE FUTURE JOKER that that was watching on the side lines. When I repeatedly had seen that guy several times in the film watching Arthur Fleck, I already knew why. I did put the puzzle pieces together in my mind before the whole picture came together.
um..... todd phillips said very clearly that he wanted to make a story and the reason he chose the joker was because comic book movies are popular enough to make a lot of people go watch it. (imo this movie sucks though, because of how boring it is) what i mean is i don't get your opinion that this shouldn't have been a joker movie, yes, even todd philips agrees. you went on a very long rant about something that the director has clarified blatantly literally 5 years ago already
I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this one, but that only leaves me even more curious to know your thoughts. Feel free to spill them out!
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Didn't believed the critics, didn't believed the ratings, so i watched it... and i wish i didn't. I'll just pretend this movie never existed, much better that way instead of the disgrace it did to the first one's legacy.
Excellent review 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The movie doesn't let Arthur experience the full consequences of his actions. The actual consequence would be for him to live with the fact that he made society turn for the worse even though he personally can't abide that people are e mean to each other (the laughing tick he has). But he never finds himself in that position, he never is being confronted with this impact he actually has on society and finally he gets the easy way out.
When I meant by consequence at the end, I meant the… spoiler… death at the end. He gets killed for deciding to not be Joker anymore, which I would consider to be a huge consequence. But I do see your point here. Maybe it could’ve been even more interesting if he was kept alive longer to see the full extent of his negative effect on the world and on himself. That could’ve also been cool.
Okay I'm in the minority but I do like this movie because it essentially destroys the power fantasy of the Joker and what the first one ended up meaning to so many people the second one is basically here's what would happen if a really depressed dude committed murders and it's just pretty much a realistic top to bottom for trail of what would actually happen to somebody who's like him he's not some Rogue he's not some Champion he's not some Society tearing down whatever he's just a guy who lived a pathetic life and died a pathetic death and in between that he got to see how his actions did affect other people's lives and I think one interesting part about that is that he could not fathom the idea that he negatively affected other people's lives like the guy he let go in the first movie essentially this sequel says no this is just the story of a very sick human being and the people who projected something on to him that he wasn't both in the audience and in the movie were only ever going to be disappointed because he's just Arthur flick
That’s one of the things that I loved about the movie too 👍🏻
I thought it was excellently done! I knew what Todd Phillips was doing all along right from the first one. Sounds like you "Joker fans" had different expectations of what he did, and now it really burns you inside that you didn't get what you expected. Tod Phillips called it JOKER, by the way... not THE JOKER. Yes, it is a possible origin story, being that the Arthur Fleck character was only an influential figure to THE FUTURE JOKER that that was watching on the side lines. When I repeatedly had seen that guy several times in the film watching Arthur Fleck, I already knew why. I did put the puzzle pieces together in my mind before the whole picture came together.
Interesting theory you got there with the possible REAL Joker
Good movie
um..... todd phillips said very clearly that he wanted to make a story and the reason he chose the joker was because comic book movies are popular enough to make a lot of people go watch it. (imo this movie sucks though, because of how boring it is)
what i mean is i don't get your opinion that this shouldn't have been a joker movie, yes, even todd philips agrees. you went on a very long rant about something that the director has clarified blatantly literally 5 years ago already
Yes, pronounce it correctly, like he does... Uhum! ;)
I can’t speak French, I tried my best 😅
I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this one, but that only leaves me even more curious to know your thoughts. Feel free to spill them out!
It's joker 2 and it's maybe the worst movie I've seen this year.
Oy vey…
The movie is shit!!