[Vinesauce] Joel - Hardcore Friday: Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Three games, three levels of AI bullshit.
Date streamed: 1 Jan, 2019
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18:11 MK1
52:18 MK2
2:27:47 MK3
Thank you kind sir
I love that the gap between mk2 and mk3 is an hour and a half
Many attempts has been done during this time
@@Twafflejc I am always available to do time stamps
27:40 Pantherk
1:02:34 Pantherk 2: Simon's Tournament
1:43:19 Ultimate Pantherk 3: Simon's Revenge Expantion & Knuckles
1:46:14 Cooking with P A N T H E R K
0/10 no PANTHERK
Watching barakka do that stupid looking move 10 thousand times where he crouches and waves his hands around like a 10 year old playing Wii sports resort is the funniest shit I've ever seen.
Joel, do you approve of Pantherk becoming official in MK11?
*FUCKING*
*PANTHERK*
*GODDAMMIT WHY ISN'T PANTHERK IN MK!! ?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?*
Missed opportunity to call it HardKore Friday. Also fav fighters are Sektor and Cyrax
Can't keep it hardkore without Dr. Thunder.
Joel's spicy opinions on MK3, JoJo, and Fallout 2 never cease to infuriate me, but every time he starts giggling about farts or something I instantly remember why I watch him.
Haha i thought i was the only one who gets a litte thrown off by joel's opinion on fallout 2
He isn't wrong tho, MK3 and Fallout 2 aren't good
I actually agree with him on Fallout 2, I loved 1 but 2 felt too goofy :( I wish it took itself a bit more seriously
@@kinnikuboneman wtf are you talking about
For some reason Fallout 2 fans thinks every Fallout series fan agrees F2 is the best and that seems very silly from the perspective of the people who liked F1 more.
F1 is pure post-apo while F2 is more sort of "adventures of tribe man", no idea why so many people just assume sequel is better.
I think I should also elaborate a little bit about why I don't like MK3, the bullshit AI never lets you do running + combos anyway so it feels like a totally useless mechanic, you get to get that stuff in at the first battle but once the AI gets into its bullshit you can kiss that goodbye, its all about being cheap and that's the problem, it feels like there's no incentive to use it since its pointless later.
Are you getting meaner every day?
No, it's true, the AI IS full of BS in MK3.
the Ai is basically OP and tracks ur moves based on the buttons you push so they can make u jizz coins into the machines
The game itself is definitely bullshit but the style and humor is why it’s my favorite.
Well that and the the fact that smoke's fatality makes earth go boom... that single handedly ruined the game (also ik you'll never see this but for the love of jebus hebus play shaolin monks, i'll give you a peanut if you do
Understandable, have a nice day
Rain is a reference to Prince's song "Purple Rain". The character is named Rain, is purple, and is the prince of Edenia.
He IS playable in the SNES and Genesis versions of the game - not any other version.
Oh hey by the way. You can turn MK3 into MK2. Get Mortal Kombat Trilogy. Go into the options "or possibly hidden options, and turn off combos. The game plays exactly like MK2 but with running. Have fun!
You can also unbound the run buttons
Why would anyone turn off combo? They suck at it?
@@Therizinosaurus Cause it plays like MK2 then. Totaly new game and way more fun because you rely on your special moves to combo insted of the tap tap combo system. It was put in the game due to players no liking the MK3 combo system.
@@Layanor my question is, why people dislike the combo system in MK3??? Saying "because it will be more like MK2" doesn't answer the question.
Combo system in MK3 is way better than in MK2, and way more entertaining to watch as a viewer/audience. I'd rather watch veterans doing combo battle in MK3, than in previous games.
@@Therizinosaurus "because it will be more like MK2" is the answer.
To the uninformed, when talking about Reptile Joel was mashing up a bunch of different conditions. 100 battles is actually 50 battles for Noob Saibot in MK2 and low kicks is for Jade in MK2, Reptile is double flawless victory with a fatality and no blocking on The Pit while shadows pass by the Moon. Must be single player. I always heard the robots' statements as "Excellency!" and "Screw you!", also.
Also Simon is really shit in this game, what happened?
He wasn't hot enough.
You used approx. ~90 credits in all three games (65 only in UMK3).
Are most of them from fighting Shao Kahn?
In UMK3, yes. In MK2, Kintaro's fight holds it.
@@GamayObera Wow. Shao Kahn in 2 is a pushover (with A.I abuse anyway) compared to Kintaro.
But where is our lord and savior SIMON?
and his chosen disciple Pantherk?
i love these streams. watching it while practising guitar at 2 am, jobel the best company
Your mom the best company 😎
should've picked pantherk, jobel.
ACCURATE Time Stamps:
Mortal Kombat: 3:04
Mortal Kombat II: 42:00
Mortal Kombat III: 1:19:40
I always thought of MK3's different photoshop filters as unique schools of magic. Of _course_ Kabal and Shao Kahn would have their own blur effects!
Also the game really opens up once you know all 1,000 secret tricks about how to play it. And you have to drink a big soda, too.
The game indeed needs some time to be enjoyable, I must admit that's one negative side of it. You need some learning, and practicing. It has steep learning curve.
And guess what? SO DO a shit ton of good games out there, including MK1, and 2.
And you need to snort 10 pounds of Spaghettios.
1:46:14 𝒞𝑜𝑜𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒲𝒾𝓉𝒽 𝒮𝒸𝑜𝓇𝓅𝒾𝑜𝓃
>Complains MKIII is the worst because robots
>Uses dumbest possible strategy to beat MKII, showing it is obviously teh bestests
Yeah, screw yoel for that. Mk3 was the best lol
Says the mk3 characters are nonsense, while looking at the mk2 character screen with a god, an actor, a MuRiCaN man, a monster boi with arm-swords and a fire skeleton ninja. (and a kitty with 4 arms as semi-final boss). Sometimes when you don't want to see, you just don't want to see.
I kinda feel like Joel just hasn't learned enough of the A.I cheese and character combos to start appreciating the same way he explained with MKII. Although he has explained a bit more what he really meant, he also has a few silly things he holds against MK3 unfairly. Still love ya Joel keep doing your thing 👍
I wanna see Joel play the shit out of MK:Armageddon for a Hardcore Friday at some point. I feel like he'd love it.
Armageddon was garbage though.
Armageddon is pretty bad as a fighting game in a lot of ways. The only thing good about it its the roster. Deception is a totally better game.
Now, all being said, I would love to see Joel playing every 3D MK.
Deadly Alliance and Armageddon were hot garbage. Deception was the only good one from the PS2 era.
Love the fact you guys think u can sit there and just demand someone not to play something
@@BigCheeze9219 Yeah... I mean we are just talking, we are not torturing Joel. Why so dense about it?
4 minutes in and I'm already driven crazy by the fact that they changed a bunch of sounds...what in the world
Yeah no idea why they did that. This version of MK1 especially is great, but I don't get why they had the common sense to keep the voices the same and some sounds, and yet change others. The new clapping sound in particular is so damn offputting lol
Same >> this is the 'fixed' version ans not the original. Honestly it's worse, this ain't the game I grew up playing lol
@@drownsinkoolaid4203 right? Who knows, to keep the old games 'fresh' or some bs
Often fighting games will be somewhat fair up until the bosses where they crank up the difficulty suddenly.
Mortal Kombat (and Also Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo for some reason) say F that and make it balls-bustingly hard from the get go.
The Japanese version of Super Turbo is semi-reasonable. It was the international versions that cranked up the difficulty, to the point that it's debated whether the difficulty setting on the international versions actually does anything or if the game is permanently stuck at max difficulty.
You should had play Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Pantherks
I like MK3 characters, but the game itself just doesn't feel right.
Not completely sure, but I think the reason running exists in the mk3 games is cause you can run in a few other fighting games at the time (namely the king of fighters games) so they were probably just following suit.
And so you can rush down with combos. I think. I can never do it myself cause the AI kicks me in the face everytime I try.
Where's Pantherk
Kung Lao's portrait in MK2 just looks like Clint Eastwood with a sharp hat, really
Might just be me though
Joel, the way to get reptile is too get two flawless victories on the pit stage without blocking and perform a fatality (you can't perform a stage fatality but you can do a fatality that requires the block button like toasty.) You also need to have a shadow fly pass the moon in the background. You should probably do this on snes because you don't need the shadow to fly by the moon. Also it's not different for every version. Edit: I forgot to mention that the game has to be in single player mode
two videos , and san andreas alreayd blocked on copyroght by SME
Darn. I thought maybe that was just for me in Australia.
Hellraiser though.
You know, for someone who loves Mortal Kombat,
You SUUURE do hate it alot, Chief
The games are bullshit hard
No one hates a franchise more than the diehard fans.
@@DirectorOfChaos9292 they were made for arcade machines though lmao
It's a love and hate sort of thing.
MK2 arcade mode is a cruel joke.
And it gets worse in UMK3.
Press forward and High Punch to die instantly.
@@srcheddar I actually dig UMK3's AI, I can beat that game Novice to Master. MK2 though? The arcade version is torture.
Now, the UMK3 SNES version is as torturing as MK2 in arcades, they stepped up the difficulty a lot.
@@vicentecollao2288 Well, being sincere, I totally suck playing UMK3 :P
Fatality on these corn dogs mmmmmmmm delish
44 minutes of the video was spent purely on shao khan in umk3, damn
Good thing Joel doesn't have to pay a quarter every time. He would be broke.
has joel heard of mgstar321 his rage knows no bounds
I actually first heard of him in a compilation someone made of him ranting just about Bo Rai Cho lol
@@drownsinkoolaid4203 Looks like him and Joel have a disagreement 'cause Joel loves Bo 'Rai Cho.
@@Tritnew Joel would be heartbroken :o
I like how on mk3 when he was talking about rumors, Human Smoke was on the screen for a second.
The Legend of PANTHERK: The hammer of Shao Kahn
2:35:17 I slowed it down and I think Liu Kang is saying "WHOOA!! The fuck is this?! The horror! The fuck is this shit?!"
Yup, Fujin definitely said "Oh, I'm gonna throw you over there!"
blah blah Pantherk blah blah
GIVE ME *P A N T H E R K* OR GIVE ME DEATH
This game sucks.
Where's our Lord and Savior, Pantherk?
I managed to beat 3 on an Ipod Touch 4 back in the day
Luke MacInnes haha same
thank god i wasnt alone
You are a God.
Mad lads
MK1: The *Pit;*
MK2: The Pit II *(Pittoo);*
MK3: The Pit 3 in *green! (me)*
They predicted Kid Icarus: Uprising somehow! Hmhmhm…
I appreciate you so much, Lady Palutena. You're always in the comments, and make the best of references. Also you're a babe with timestamps.
Aaah, thank you~! 💚
Just, uh, one complaint: stop being scummy with your AutoReticle in Smash. Pit would be upset, but... You kinda turned him into a frog or something when you got cranky, so I don't suppose that matters. Although, he did kinda uncorrupt you... I dunno, it's just a moral dilemma.
I showed your statement to Mr. Sakurai and he said for me: _Never give me statements ever again…_ Sorry about that, but his words are his words…
Baelutena
"Perform a combo but stop button mashing." -- Chat (2019)
yeah that’s what’s a combo tends to be in a game
They removed Mk arcade kollection on psn,i would say since mid March
Am I the only one who thinks Sektor says "Screw you" whenever he gets hit? I swear to god, I can't not hear it
I love that opening. It's amazing
from now on, i refuse to acknowledge any mk game that doesn't have pantherk as a real game
It is possible to make Pantherk in MK Armageddon?
Pantherk is a joke lmfao
@@UltraEpicLeader10020 you do realize that my comment is also a joke do you
1:58:18 - 1:59:00 this had me fucking *dead*
1:52:36 I was in a really bad mood and this cheered me up. Thank you joel
Iv'e never seen someone shit on UMK3 so much, just because it has a simple running feature and because they implemented a combo system which the first two lacked. The difficulty is BS but all three games had that problem. Only reason you had no trouble with Khan in MK2 is because you knew about cheesy baraka tactic, if you didn't, he would've been as bad as in MK3, i remember spending 2h trying to beat him in MK2. Criticizing the visuals of MK3 also seems silly, it's from 1995 and some of the effects you made fun of were also in MK2, such as the warping vortex in the background. The only major complaint MK3 had at the start was the fact it had no Scorpion for some reason, considering Ed Boon is a huge Scropion fanboy it's crazy that even happened but thankfully UMK3 came out which fixed that and added some more characters,levels + mini-games.
Yeah, as much as I like Joel in general, sometimes his opinions kinda illogical and frustrating for me. He's okay with first two games because they about martial arts (questionable) even if they have gods, magic, 4 handed dragon monsters, tarkatans and multiple worlds in it, but yet can't stand cyborgs and invasion of the evil emperor on Earth. Like wtf? xD And I'm chill with that during stream, because he can just don't like the style of the game, but when he said about combos and running it's just turned me off. It seems he just shit on combos in MK3 just for the sake of shitting, cause he said it's just spamming buttons and and maybe you can pull off combo, when in reality there is dedicated series of imputs that you need to learn, like for fatalities and special moves, and they adding some depth in PVP. And this man love Tekken series, that have running and combos just like here in MK3, but no, MK3 is shit xD But hey... opinios, man. What I really don't like in MK3 compare to first two games is fatalities with decapitation. When Kung Lao fatality in the 2nd game have amazing animations for every combatants MK3 decapitation looks like they cut sprites on few parts and it's looks lazy, also that ulimited bones fest, not a fan. But in terms of creativity 3rd game is far from shit, it's a good sequel and far better game than MK4 and 5 that's for sure. And he said once that he likes MK4 lol
P.S. Love you Joel, please don't kill
@@nikitalobo9337 I know and I love Joel too, his criticism of mk3 really bothered since it felt more like he wants to dislike it intentionally but is having a hard time actually giving many major valid reasons to not like it. Saying that having a more functional combo system and being able to run ruins a fighting game really is silly. Yes, there is a quiet charming simplicity mk 1 and 2 had but it couldn't really be like that forever, especially during that period where fighting games were getting more and more crazy popular each year with lots of other studio to compete with and their games. The AI is pretty insane and if you're not a fighting game god which most aren't, the typical strart is cheesing it, something both mk 1 and 2 require to beat em' too and even the later on mks to a degree.
Nothing like a good shit and watching Joel to get the old spirits outta the shitter. Quite literally...
joel I think you'd enjoy UMK3 more if you learn the basic combos for some characters. All I really know is scorpion and his main thing is Teleport->Spear-> HP, HP, (Back) HK, HK for a 6 hit cambo.
Combos are only practical when you're playing against humans, they're very ineffective against the bullshit AI.
@@mexicangoose6461 you can chain a jump kick into a full combo, thats practically the one way you can use em unless you're playing sub-zero or cyrax
40:10
So we're just ignoring that one guy named John Newcomer?
FUCKING JOHN NEWCOMER?!
hardcore friday: bookworm adventures deluxe
shouldve ask mr TAS for advice joel
how to beat mk2 shao kahn.
1. Flail angrily
2. Flail Angrily.
3. FLAIL... ANGRILY
For the record joel, you did roughly 3x better this run through MK2 than your one-off hardcore friday playthrough.
Edit: As proof, here are the approximate tries for each fighter and stage. Your matches are listed by the stage and 1st run/2nd run with their respective attempts.
1. Zero/Jax - 1/1
2. Cage/Raiden - 2/1
3. Kung Lao/Raiden - 2/1
4. Liu Kang/Kung - 3/2
5. Reptile/Baraka - 2/3
6. Baraka/Reptile - 4/2
7. Jax/Cage - 6/1
8. Kitana/Scorp - 1/1
9. Mileena - 5/2
10. Scorp/Zero - 2/1
11. Raiden/Liu - 3/1
12. Shang Tsung - 13/2
13. Kintaro - 5/9
14. Shao Kahn - 4/1
Jorgel plis play "Killer Instinct" for SNES
Play the arcade version if you're gonna play KI at all
Jobel, play the most recent KI.
Play any KI.
KI wins again.
Didn't he stream it on Arcade Madness once, or not? (The arcade version, not the SNES port)
@@YadonTheCat or he can buy a snes...
@@BigCheeze9219 "buy" haha nice joke. Joel already "owns" every nintendo game ever made.
took my first shit after being constipated for three days while watching this. thanks Joel
Anyone else want Joel to do a Hardcore Friday of Tattoo Assassins now?
1:13:54 Get some free cheesy haircut of Baraka today.
MK1 Is my favorite too, it somehow actually feels... ominous? Like there's this sense of urgency and tension when you fight. It's probably the music that does it, but I'm not 100% sure.
I can relate, I like the music in it probably the best of them all, MK9 is a close second.
Still irks me to this day when people say Mortal Kombat theme they mean the movie, the MK1 title theme is so damn catchy :D
Also the fact the ai is bearable in MK1.
I agree, the music has its own feel to it as opposed to the more arcade-y ost of the , and 3 and i think Goro, his Lair, and Shang Stung are creepy
if there is no pantherk jokes i will be mad
edit: >:(
Joel it's been a year... PLEEBZ PLEY MORTAL KOMBAT EELEAYVAN
I love Goro's lair.
It used to give me so much nightmares as a child
they told us mk2 was a fighting game but all along it was a puzzle game
edit: said that while watching then joel said it 10 seconds later
Joel pls. don't blame MK3 for you sucking. You abandoned most of the gameplay elements to cheese it as soon as you could and didn't learn from your mistakes the entire time you fought Shao Kahn. Like maybe not trying to throw an iceball as soon as you're able to land a slide. Or not using the more damaging combos if you manage to freeze him.
!Pantherk
The point is that in MK2 kintaro didn't just know some of your moves he just has more health and damage than the other fighters
1:28:46 Okay, sub zero is so broken, he can't take damage from remote missiles while he's in mid combo.
I like that all the effort you put in finishing MK3, they just give you a shitty "you're winner :^)"
*WHERE TF PANTHERK AT?!?!*
watching anything with joel is my new favorite, after windows destruction lol
Raiden's MK1 Ending. He beats Shang Tsung and decides to have a Mortal Kombat with Rain, Fujin, Shinnok, Argus, Taven, Daegon, Cetrion, and Kronika. The world probably ended when one of them thought it'd be funny to imitate Smoke/Cyrax Fatality where they blow up Earth.
1:25:24 "press start to Kontinue" I:
ya think ya clever, game, eh?
1:40:08 Certified Mortal Kombat moment.
Pantherk
PANTHERK!
Jorgol trying to brute force his way out of Shao King for over 30 minutes was a real 6th sense experience
Talk about unpopular opinions, MK3 is my absolute favorite. The running feature and combos were awesome, they made you look like a total badass in the arcade. And I don't know how unpopular the cyborgs were, I was under the impression people seem to like them.
P.S. Motaro and Kahn both have their own cheats I found and have never not used since. Just uppercut Motaro straight into hell. Kahn you wait for his rising knee attack, uppercut, then run up and do your six-hit combo.
Joel says Sektor is the best for a fight and always manages to do worse
alright joel! this is it mortal kombat Arcade Kollection
It's Bubsy. It's Bubsy. Stole yo yarn. Stole yo yarn. It's Bubsy.
SHAO KAHN WINS
I beat MK1 as a kid by spamming the jump kick and MK2 by spamming uppercut. MK3 I only won once by sheer luck.
Joel you just have to do a fast combo
1:42:02, 1:43:46, 1:46:06, 1:50:25, 1:58:17
Why does Sektor say "Despacito" when he gets hit?
Motaro is the Marauder of the Mortal Kombat franchise.
Hell yeah
Freeplay?
*girls-laughing.jpg*
That's some creamy cheese there Joel
Only like 30% of what Joel says about MK in this stream is correct
Man, I've recovered with a sliver of health in 3. It's Ultimate 3 that's stupid difficult.
mortal kombat deception next?
I hope so. Pretty underrated game outside of MK Fans.
I wish we got Armageddon Konquest mode it’s a pretty good match for the hardcore Friday format
Joel, I just bought a ps3 so I've been playing this. I feel your pain
What does the robot pair say when they get hit? I hear something like "Es Nazi" but I know that's not it
xyz? or robo gibberish
the days of playing mortal kombat at the arcade
29:59 among
Raiden: the world is destroyed have a nice day