In our school district my class (2015) was the last of the kids to learn cursive. They literally stopped in the middle of the cursive lesson plans so I have to make up certain letters because of that if I want to write in cursive. Common core is the most ridiculous idea like why the hell is it based on our testing? It’s so disruptive to teaching our children how to support themselves.
Theres no reason, cursive does nothing except make hand writing look pretty. The biggest tell that cursive will be even more useless in the future is the immigration crisis. You expect me to believe Mohammed is going to come to my town to learn western values and practice English cursive?
My mother writes using cursive, and taught my siblings and I when we were young children long before we were taught it in the 3rd gradein 2003. I was surprised to hear that they stopped teaching it here in NY.
@kathyhansen2820 that doesn't really justify spending countless hours learning something that is only useful for signing documents a few times a year.
@derklebob8161 They taught it for like a week and you got extra credit if you used it on other assignments after that point. That's all it was. We were learning what was essentially another hand written font not another language. It doesn't take long to learn only to get good at.
This is why Americans are so behind,and I didn't use stupid or dumb. Its getting to the point were school are just free daycare. I tought my daughter before starting school how to count,write and read. After two weeks in preK I was asked to attend a PTA meeting in reference to moving my daughter to the 2rd grade I said no because she was only 4 but did agreed to the 1st grade.
Someone left a note on the supervisor desk and she didn't follow through on the problem because she said she couldn't read it. I thought maybe it was bad writing but I read it just fine. The note was important 😮😮
I know cursive. Idk if writing fast is writing good. I used to produce a reasonably legible signature but now im older i sign so fast that it is too distorted. Now, my stepdad used to make me redo assignment if in his judgement it was illegible. Well, the teacher kept accepting it. He tried to show me a couple proper cursive letters and my mama showed me a more streamlined mechanic that reduced some of the curly cues, feeling that would improve legibility, which it did. Later on i adopted a mixed style of the two. I had a teacher who later in the year wanted more proper form, threatening to start counting it wrong and i told him what my mama told me, which he said he didn't care but i think in the end he acquesced because after all it was clear and legible. On paper forms, you print most of it but you sign your name in cursive. I take neutral stance. I can see both sides but with technology comes many cultural shifts. Cursive however is still relevant but its importance is diminished and manuscript handwritten signatures seems acceptable today but probably wouldn't have been accepted in the old school. Yeah a doctor can do open heart surgery but not so much handwriting lol. Well the doc uses a computer. And hey, what about e signed documents, eh?
I recently started teaching myself how to write in cursive because I find writing in print is physically taxing & tedious. Honestly super easy to learn with all the resources online. Give it a try!
Im indian and I have been writing cursive my whole life. Honestly even though alot of my classmates use cursive many kids my age also dont write in cursive and our teachers dont really care as long as your handwriting is readable and not messy.
To me, this is crazy. I’m brazilian and in my country, we basically only write cursive. We learn how to write cursives before we learn reading (around 4 or 5 years old).
2:18 no way they are gonna take an entire day to discuss the letter "C". Edit: I guess I was a little quick of the draw, for kindergarteners one letter is fine.
@@77tubuck Cursive isn't a basic skill, it's something you learn because you have the privilege of not needing to know many things, so you gussy up your handwriting to make up for lack of knowledge and meaningful skill.
@@derklebob8161 Let me get this straight. You expect students to have to take down long notes using the antiquated block print. Why would you do that when cursive is much faster? Why would you make the students suffer?
Grandma's generation learned cursive at grade 4? Bro I live in Europe and I had to know it before pre-school along with math and reading. Pretty sure they still don't allow printed handwriting in schools these days. Then again I'm a milenial so...
Wow, I use the latest tech and many old style approaches as well. I find it detrimental to have knowledge from many areas of human life. New and very old. I can rebuild a fuel carburetor and reconfigure a 2022 computer in a vehicle that does not use a carb. Its very very obvious to me that how the quick pace of technology is rendering "old school" approaches irrelevant. I personally believe that having your own "internal archive" of the old and new is detrimental to survival to say the least, especially in a world failing in every continent where the old ways will be needed. Most of the new generation will NEVER survive in a non tech world. Its coming.
@derklebob8161 colossal waste of time??? That shit was easy asf to learn lil bro😂 also im sure I make more money than you do and besides its funny to me that learning cursive is actually hard to learn for some people when its extremely easy to learn. I hope you know people pay for things like postcards or birthday cards for them to be in cursive handwriting 😂 so yes it does make me more money than you thanks
I never had to use it but choose to use it when taking notes and having to write fast. What's weird to me is it's not hard to figure out. That recipe card did not have any of the hard letters such as q,j,z,..
It’s a fun way to write plus it’s actually good for you lol. Plus why shouldn’t we maintain certain types of writing. It’s like how we are bringing back Latin.
Instead of teaching cursive kids should be taught civics, debate, philosophy, history, math and proper grammar. Kids these days speak and act like slow kids at a zoo.
It's not vital, it's a useless skill. I don't write period, nevermind writing in a quantity that would require cursive. Teaching students to type at a speed of 60+ WPM would be a better use of time
@@epope98 All of that could be replaced with a barcode or NFC tag on the physical device being worked on. There is no reason to be writing down ANYTHING in the 21st century
Its not that anyone was taught to read cursive... its that NOBODY can read cursive, I was taught Cursive in 3rd grade, and in 4th grade the teacher said they cant read what was written (100% perfectly understandable who wants to decipher 30 papers written in cursive) so I go back to block type, because it can be read... The apple made the Newton (1997) to read typed and Cursive writing, and it couldn’t read cursive... modern devises cannot read cursive. NOBODY Can read cursive it is what Doctors write on Prescription pads and what nurses consistently complain about having to read. I joined the Navy they teach Ricky Writing basically block Type so it is 100% legible and readable because communication is vital to mission success... and with the keyboard and modern word processors, why teach cursive? literally a waste of time have seen a nephew saying they are teaching cursive again in schools and I am like why? it is not necessary it needs to die, let it die, nobody can read cursive easily, even if your taught cursive, and swear it saves any time upon writing it, it certainly causes others to spend time to decipher it... huge Nope Please write in Block Type and let cursive die!
@@nescaufrioemtbom1113 Yes an American that can have an actual discussion and discourse! Unlike you that can only reply with two words and NO point whatsoever! I bring actual dialogue and valid points you bring nothing but ignorance. I am PROUD to be as you put it, an AVERAGE American!
Cursive is POINTLESS! It exists only because of the era of quill pens and ink to avoid ink splats on paper. We use computers now since we don’t even write out our documents.
Thats a damn lie because what if you need to sign a document?? Not every thing is on computers somethings on paper CURSIVE IS A MANDATORY SKILL that needs to be learned
I respectfully disagree. In many countries cursive is the norm for important things like exams, tests, certain portions of documents, and so on. And blue ink is essential. The reason being is - 1. blue ink is an easy way of telling the paper/document isn't a copy. Even with modern tech it's hard to fake a signature in blue ink digitally. There's something about digital prints of blue ink cursive that looks fake. 2. cursive handwriting is harder to copy or replicate whereas anyone can type things for you. Print letters are easier to copy. My sister was actually not allowed to write her exams in her printed handwriting because someone could copy her handwriting and falsify the results. 3. Ink can't be eraced in most cases. In my country you are not allowed to turn in a document or assignment with squiggled out letters. You have to scratch them out with one line so that what was corrected can be visible. In tests it serves a big thing - the one checking the test can see your train of thought and may choose to give you half a point or so because you were on the right track. Also teachers can see where the student needs help. This is useful for furthering academic success of the country. In documents it's mandatory to use one line to scratch out the mistakes and write "corrected" and sign next to it. This is so that it's proof no one has tampered with your documents. Also again it's important to see what was corrected in the first place.
In our school district my class (2015) was the last of the kids to learn cursive. They literally stopped in the middle of the cursive lesson plans so I have to make up certain letters because of that if I want to write in cursive. Common core is the most ridiculous idea like why the hell is it based on our testing? It’s so disruptive to teaching our children how to support themselves.
Good job Vanguard. Cursive should be in all schools.
But this is only in the United States lol in Europe and Latin America this type is only used Letter
Theres no reason, cursive does nothing except make hand writing look pretty. The biggest tell that cursive will be even more useless in the future is the immigration crisis.
You expect me to believe Mohammed is going to come to my town to learn western values and practice English cursive?
My mother writes using cursive, and taught my siblings and I when we were young children long before we were taught it in the 3rd gradein 2003. I was surprised to hear that they stopped teaching it here in NY.
A lot of kids are going to look like fools as adults when signing checks, documents etc..
@kathyhansen2820 that doesn't really justify spending countless hours learning something that is only useful for signing documents a few times a year.
@derklebob8161 They taught it for like a week and you got extra credit if you used it on other assignments after that point. That's all it was. We were learning what was essentially another hand written font not another language. It doesn't take long to learn only to get good at.
This is why Americans are so behind,and I didn't use stupid or dumb. Its getting to the point were school are just free daycare. I tought my daughter before starting school how to count,write and read. After two weeks in preK I was asked to attend a PTA meeting in reference to moving my daughter to the 2rd grade I said no because she was only 4 but did agreed to the 1st grade.
Someone left a note on the supervisor desk and she didn't follow through on the problem because she said she couldn't read it. I thought maybe it was bad writing but I read it just fine. The note was important 😮😮
I know cursive. Idk if writing fast is writing good. I used to produce a reasonably legible signature but now im older i sign so fast that it is too distorted. Now, my stepdad used to make me redo assignment if in his judgement it was illegible. Well, the teacher kept accepting it. He tried to show me a couple proper cursive letters and my mama showed me a more streamlined mechanic that reduced some of the curly cues, feeling that would improve legibility, which it did. Later on i adopted a mixed style of the two. I had a teacher who later in the year wanted more proper form, threatening to start counting it wrong and i told him what my mama told me, which he said he didn't care but i think in the end he acquesced because after all it was clear and legible. On paper forms, you print most of it but you sign your name in cursive. I take neutral stance. I can see both sides but with technology comes many cultural shifts. Cursive however is still relevant but its importance is diminished and manuscript handwritten signatures seems acceptable today but probably wouldn't have been accepted in the old school. Yeah a doctor can do open heart surgery but not so much handwriting lol. Well the doc uses a computer. And hey, what about e signed documents, eh?
I'm a 40yo Asian in Asia. I never had cursive class but I can write in cursive. How else would you write fast?
We learned to write in cursive before we learn the print way on our own. Never knew this was not taught in many places long time ago
Cursive that's basically, hardcore mode for my hands.
I recently started teaching myself how to write in cursive because I find writing in print is physically taxing & tedious. Honestly super easy to learn with all the resources online. Give it a try!
Im indian and I have been writing cursive my whole life. Honestly even though alot of my classmates use cursive many kids my age also dont write in cursive and our teachers dont really care as long as your handwriting is readable and not messy.
Cursive will be how we keep secrets from our Robot Overlords.
You mentioned there were three school districts that teach cursive in the article. What districts were those?
El paso TX DaVinci for science and the arts
They dont want kids to be able to read historical documents... Like the Constitution
To me, this is crazy. I’m brazilian and in my country, we basically only write cursive. We learn how to write cursives before we learn reading (around 4 or 5 years old).
Haha finally as parents we have a secret code. 😀
In my country, Brazil, we were alphabetised in cursive. But that was in the 90ies, IDK about kids nowadays.
Still using it
It's sad that cursive writing is in decline esp. in the United States where it was first polished (Palmer and Spencerian).
2:18 no way they are gonna take an entire day to discuss the letter "C".
Edit: I guess I was a little quick of the draw, for kindergarteners one letter is fine.
Funny I always thought school weren't teaching basic skills like reading and writing.
@DrumWild
Writing in CURSIVE is a basic skill and it should be taught in schools. Congrats, you completely missed my point.
@@77tubuck Cursive isn't a basic skill, it's something you learn because you have the privilege of not needing to know many things, so you gussy up your handwriting to make up for lack of knowledge and meaningful skill.
@@derklebob8161
Let me get this straight. You expect students to have to take down long notes using the antiquated block print. Why would you do that when cursive is much faster? Why would you make the students suffer?
Grandma's generation learned cursive at grade 4? Bro I live in Europe and I had to know it before pre-school along with math and reading. Pretty sure they still don't allow printed handwriting in schools these days. Then again I'm a milenial so...
Bro you lie like a rug😂
I was taught cursive for 2 days in 3rd grade because 1kid know how to write
Lucky.. I only got one day.
No fair, we had to learn and adjust to this when we were kids, make them next gen suffer as well.
Print you name here, Signature here. So what does this mean now?
According to some people, it may be “Racist”
As a black person...How
Wow, I use the latest tech and many old style approaches as well. I find it detrimental to have knowledge from many areas of human life. New and very old. I can rebuild a fuel carburetor and reconfigure a 2022 computer in a vehicle that does not use a carb.
Its very very obvious to me that how the quick pace of technology is rendering "old school" approaches irrelevant. I personally believe that having your own "internal archive" of the old and new is detrimental to survival to say the least, especially in a world failing in every continent where the old ways will be needed.
Most of the new generation will NEVER survive in a non tech world. Its coming.
the only cursive I do as an adult is signing my name
Europeans youngling *laugh in cursive*
How the hell can they sign their own name? 🤯
See they start teaching it in 5th and 4th grade but it never continues from there...
Actually I learned it in 2nd grade and never learned it from there, but each state and country is different
Bro I'm in gen z and I learned how to read and write in cursive in 4th grade💀💀💀💀💀
Same dude
What a colossal waste of time that could have been used on something that matters and actually makes you money.
@derklebob8161 colossal waste of time??? That shit was easy asf to learn lil bro😂 also im sure I make more money than you do and besides its funny to me that learning cursive is actually hard to learn for some people when its extremely easy to learn. I hope you know people pay for things like postcards or birthday cards for them to be in cursive handwriting 😂 so yes it does make me more money than you thanks
So wierd to think that most of the europe knows only curisve.
But It's how you write. How can anyone not know how to write properly.
Learned how to write cursive in school. Worthless skill. Wish they taught me to change my oil in my car nstead.
Language and writing changes over time I never had to use it outside of signatures.
I never had to use it but choose to use it when taking notes and having to write fast. What's weird to me is it's not hard to figure out. That recipe card did not have any of the hard letters such as q,j,z,..
Then you are an idiot.
It’s a fun way to write plus it’s actually good for you lol. Plus why shouldn’t we maintain certain types of writing. It’s like how we are bringing back Latin.
Its useless
Instead of teaching cursive kids should be taught civics, debate, philosophy, history, math and proper grammar. Kids these days speak and act like slow kids at a zoo.
Kids should be taught all those things, but cursive is still something kids should learn.
Looks like graffiti.
It's not vital, it's a useless skill.
I don't write period, nevermind writing in a quantity that would require cursive. Teaching students to type at a speed of 60+ WPM would be a better use of time
not true, alot of jobs you have to write due to like say mechanics signing or stateing work done as records that have to be done by hand.
@@epope98 All of that could be replaced with a barcode or NFC tag on the physical device being worked on.
There is no reason to be writing down ANYTHING in the 21st century
You are a useless waste of oxygen.
@@nathanbedfordforrest9546 Shut up boomer
@@camadams9149 Boomer? I’m a college student with an actual brain unlike your decrepit self.
Its not that anyone was taught to read cursive... its that NOBODY can read cursive, I was taught Cursive in 3rd grade, and in 4th grade the teacher said they cant read what was written (100% perfectly understandable who wants to decipher 30 papers written in cursive) so I go back to block type, because it can be read... The apple made the Newton (1997) to read typed and Cursive writing, and it couldn’t read cursive... modern devises cannot read cursive. NOBODY Can read cursive it is what Doctors write on Prescription pads and what nurses consistently complain about having to read. I joined the Navy they teach Ricky Writing basically block Type so it is 100% legible and readable because communication is vital to mission success... and with the keyboard and modern word processors, why teach cursive? literally a waste of time have seen a nephew saying they are teaching cursive again in schools and I am like why? it is not necessary it needs to die, let it die, nobody can read cursive easily, even if your taught cursive, and swear it saves any time upon writing it, it certainly causes others to spend time to decipher it... huge Nope Please write in Block Type and let cursive die!
Average American
@@nescaufrioemtbom1113 Yes an American that can have an actual discussion and discourse! Unlike you that can only reply with two words and NO point whatsoever! I bring actual dialogue and valid points you bring nothing but ignorance. I am PROUD to be as you put it, an AVERAGE American!
Cursive is POINTLESS! It exists only because of the era of quill pens and ink to avoid ink splats on paper. We use computers now since we don’t even write out our documents.
The constitution is written in cursive
Thats a damn lie because what if you need to sign a document?? Not every thing is on computers somethings on paper CURSIVE IS A MANDATORY SKILL that needs to be learned
Cursive isn't pointless.
What about your signature? Are you just gonna put a line on everything you have to sign?
Use computers? What about hackers?
It does no harm in being able to read it though. If you choose not to use it for handwriting is fine
I respectfully disagree. In many countries cursive is the norm for important things like exams, tests, certain portions of documents, and so on. And blue ink is essential. The reason being is - 1. blue ink is an easy way of telling the paper/document isn't a copy. Even with modern tech it's hard to fake a signature in blue ink digitally. There's something about digital prints of blue ink cursive that looks fake. 2. cursive handwriting is harder to copy or replicate whereas anyone can type things for you. Print letters are easier to copy. My sister was actually not allowed to write her exams in her printed handwriting because someone could copy her handwriting and falsify the results. 3. Ink can't be eraced in most cases. In my country you are not allowed to turn in a document or assignment with squiggled out letters. You have to scratch them out with one line so that what was corrected can be visible. In tests it serves a big thing - the one checking the test can see your train of thought and may choose to give you half a point or so because you were on the right track. Also teachers can see where the student needs help. This is useful for furthering academic success of the country. In documents it's mandatory to use one line to scratch out the mistakes and write "corrected" and sign next to it. This is so that it's proof no one has tampered with your documents. Also again it's important to see what was corrected in the first place.