Perspectives on the Nature of Reality to Inform Systemic Change Dr Iain McGilchrist,CERN,Switzerland
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2023
- Event Details: This event took place on the 08.05.2023
Location: CERN - Meyrin, Switzerland
Dr. Iain McGilchrist spoke at the IdeaSquare innovation space of CERN to discuss the nature of reality from the perspective of the human brain and philosophy. The event was hosted in conjunction with Terraforming - a pilot course equipping students with big-scale systems thinking abilities and how to induce societal change.
Event Details and Links
Terraforming link - indico.cern.ch/event/1272142/
Chair: Dr. Ameer Shaheed
Host: Tuuli Utriainen
To purchase The Matter with Things
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When I was in high school, I took a calligraphy class and ended up having many interesting conversations with my teacher after class was over. At one point, I decided to ask him for some advice on living the rest of my life. He said, "Seek to become a Renaissance man" and went on to define that as developing *both* sides of my brain as much as possible. I am now 53 years old and I feel like Dr. McGilchrist is validating that journey. I think everyone should become a Renaissance "man" (person).
Some favorite Iain McGilchrist quotes from this presentation:
"I'm not suggesting there is one single easy reality. I'm not suggesting there is one ever knowable truth. I'm suggesting we mustn't ever give up on the idea that it is worthwhile for a human life-in fact, it is imperative for a human life-to be searching for such a reality and such a truth. Otherwise, we are frankly deluded, and I believe that much of the world I now live in is suicidally deluded."
"What scientists don't see anymore is there is no such thing as just 'looking' because the way you attend, the preconceptions in which you attend, alters what you find."
"We don't want *either* either/or *or* both/and; we need *both* either/or *and* both/and. The unity of difference and unity."
Sometimes the reality hits you 😅
Maybe the truth you're out searching to find already exists within you and you're searching for it out there, getting lost and all when it's always been with you 😊
It's called non-duality. Look up Alan Watts, he'll explain it to ya. :)
Me during my 20 minute lunch break whilst watching UA-cam on my phone:
"Let me watch this lecture on how Perspectives on the Nature of Reality can Inform Systemic Change."
Aim high, tell the truth, and see where that gets ya.
@@Hyumanity Aye aye captain!
@@HyumanityProbably thrown out of your house if you're a gay kid in a conservative house.
@@thomascromwell6840 what does your comment mean I genuinely don't understand
@nicbarth3838 It means he has nothing to contribute but wants to complain about something unrelated.
As a young man I was baffled that people did not see the world as interconnected, your work significantly explains the reasons for that.
Tell me something: how does one significantly explain something? Better yet, how does one insignificantly explain something?
It's because it's really hard to do anything when you see it as a continuum. To do much of anything you need to pretend everything is reducible to parts. Or at least it was pre modern computing.
@@dixonhill1108 Why do we have to do anything?
Why are they driving us?
What are they turning us into?
Why is there only one direction of Progress?
Who decided that?
Who decided it?
Was it unanimous?
Do you like questions?
Thank you and AMEN!!! I work in a Psychiatric hospital and as a "person of lived experience", it's nice to hear a learned mind validate my beliefs and practices... I guess it's paid to be a left-handed, creative & complex person, after all. Can't wait to share.
Mr. Iain McGilchrist, I adore you and your teaching & understanding, I'm not an intellectually educated woman, but I do instinctively understand the wholeness of the world view you are sharing with the world. I can only hope that we as wise sentient beings will unify our world view. Wow what fascinating possibilities
You type very well for an unintellectually educated woman!
I am poor at reading but I like great minds, favourite public intellectuals including Goethe, Bronowski, Jonathan Miller, Said, Zizek, McGilchrist and Peterson.
A lot of what these highly intelligent people speak about though, I haven't got a clue.
Snowflake
You are asking the impossible. Statutory religions will always create alternate realities and wars which are fought for money. People will always be for sale. People will always be stupid.
Yo he's a fucking Doctor - show some respect.
Snowflake and a quack
This was a VERY compelling lecture. Thank you for making this public. Reminds me of the quote, "I promise if you look for everything beautiful in the world, you will eventually become it." - Tyler Kent White
Human consciousness will make great leaps and bounds when modern scientists come to the general consensus in the value of unifying science with the sacredness and divinity of the nous.
It seems there is a balancing act that has evolved in the nervous system of life. All sides are presented, and all possibilities within the probability of opposites, binaries, and webs of perceived information. Awareness, the more I study it, seems to become more and more important than all other thoughts or processes. It's at the base of the experience of life. You can not know without awareness. You can not make any discernment without awareness. I have a feeling that a true "theory of everything" lies in the understanding of awareness itself.
Another gem... I think about the topics on this discussion daily and i see this all around me after reading your work. Maybe because this is how i am attending to the world these days, but i think not. This feeling was there long before i read your work Iain and as many have said you have merely put words to it. But what to do. I see many just watching this as you describe with some kind of optimism but these days there are many times when i feel like i'm living in a mad house. I often think about leaving the bureaucracy of the west for a 'simpler' life somewhere else where i don't have to try to undo the constant gaslighting of the modern world.
“Artist get nervous when there’s only one point of view …having always loved perspective as we do.”
S.
Thank you Dr. Iain McGilchrist.
You are so interesting and I love to watch you, it makes me laugh when you do thing like accidently change the screen! You are so passionate about what you are talking about that you accidently press the button to change the screen! How wonderful!
The "identity of identity and non-identity" as my philosophy professor used to put it. All this stuff is very Hegelian and complex enough to do justice to the way we acquire knowledge. It's taken me a while to free myself from the logicists; knowledge is an emergent property. Good stuff Dr McGilchrist.
Thank you for sharing.
A fantastic talk, Dr. McGilchrist. Thank you.
The consequences of living in the upside down left hemisphere world are all too obvious: alienation, widespread anxiety, depression, addictions, and deaths of despair.
Did anyone else notice the Carmen Vortex Feet is almost identical to Tesla's Air Valve patent? Amazing perspectives and illumination thank you for your time.
THANK YOU.
Very valuable
Marvelous!
Profound and uplifting. I'm deeply grateful that this wisdom does not turn its back on, or impose an artificial limitation, with regards to the political dimension
I am a fan since 2 years or so. As a german, I look different to english language and I found "paying attention" could be a play on words: "pay with a tension", what wonderfully matches your findings. Warm regards from Stuttgart !
awesome.
Brilliant ❤
What a wonderful observation! Thank you for sharing that.
Schöne Grüsse nach Deutschland ❤
Also love the word play in your name. Prinzessor 😅
I grew up in Nürnberg 😊
Breathtaking.. I was left with awe. How scary the world around has become.
Thank you for posting more videos. I really enjoy the. ❤
Absolute genius🙌🏼
Interesting convergence: Reality + CERN + McGilchrist. Deeply related to the heart of my current work ...
Indeed. Thy shared I AM came with conversations just for thee! Some will say Who are you? Who LOVE with patience, mercy, and grace! It's a privilege indeed! Judgment and Justice is Thy THRONE! Why say ye say? Remember Remembering ye all once born as a little Child. Likewise...where else increase belongs nor to be glorified belongs? From ABOVE the AM. Thy little child "i" alone WILL Accept! What is conversations without another? Nor what is a Covenant without to share with another? Yes, Holy FEET touched the Curse dry grounds murdered! To be ACCUSED, DEATH, AND HADES SEPARATION FROM CONVERSATIONS! A CHILD BORN IN THIS WORLD. THY LITTLE CHILD "i". The "i" sitting with the AM. Complete. Since in the beginning my AM. Thy OMEGA brought BACK TO LIFE! How and why? Remove the entanglements strong holds.
IM’s book “The Matter with Things” is the most profoundly important book of our time.
Every paragraph is a bomb.
It made my brain hurt, I had to pause constantly to reflect and digest what I had read. A massive amount of work. Holding the whole ‘composition’ together through the progression of the work was incredible.
“The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon.
this was an amazing lecture thank u
The loss of nuance, the reduction of everything to the symbolic, and the rigidity of "the rules", simplistic models...
Perhaps we can find a way to manifest ourselves in our right minds while not losing the left. Thank you Dr. McGilchrist for trying to help. 🙏
He recommends practicing Mindfulness & Meditation to bring about brain cohesion.
our left brain dominance is creating accelerating "biological annihilation" - just googlescholar that phrase. thanks
Dr. Iian McGilchrist, I thank you so much.
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Prince Wen Hu's cook
Was cutting of an ox.
Out went a hand,
Down went a shoulder,
He planted a foot,
He pressed a knee,
The ox fell apart
With a whisper,
The bright cleaver
murmured
Like a gentle wind.
Rythem! Timing!
Like a sacred dance,
Like "The Mulberry Grove,"
Like ancient harmonies!
"Good work!" the Prince
exclaimed,
"Your method is faultless!"
"Method?" said the cook
Laying aside his cleaver,
"What I follow is Tao
Beyond all methods!
"When I first began
To cut up oxen
I would see before me
The whole ox
All in one mass.
After three years
I no longer saw this
mass,
I saw the distinctions.
"But now I see nothing
With the eye. My whole
being
Apprendends.
My senses are idle. The
spirit
Free to work without
plan
Follows its own instinct
Guided my natural line,
By the secret opening,
the hidden place,
My cleaver finds its own
way.
I cut through no joint,
chop no bone.
"There are species in the
joints;
The blade is thin and
keen:
When this thinness
Finds that space
There is all the room
you need!
It goes like a breeze!
Hence I have this
cleaver nineteen
years
As if it newly
sharpened!
"True, there are
sometimes
Tough joints. I feel
them coming,
I slow down, I watch
closely,
Hold back, barely
move the blade,
And whump! the
part falls away
Landing on the clod
of the earth.
"Then I withdrew the
blade,
I stand still
And let the joy of the
work
Sink in.
I clean the blade
And put it away."
Prince Wen Hui said,
"This is it! My cook
has shown me
How I ought to live
My own life!"
Chuang Tze, Third
centuary China
Very nice
Another solid gold hit, Brother Iain. Loved this! Learned a lot, as I always do from your work. Attention is critical. How you attend changes the world you live in. The more views you can hold of a particular element the closer you are to understanding that elements' complete truth. The mountain example was epic. A mountain is much more than just a mountain. :-) Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this. ENCORE! ENCORE!!
Excellent. Thank you.
"Nothing is itself without its context."
Free gold.
Innovative and Mind Blowing Research!
This is partly the reason for Odin having 1 eye. It is said he gave his eye for wisdom. Understanding of human brain functions even back then 👍
He gave up one eye...a eye..."a.i"
For wisdom.
@@GregtheGrey6969Schizo type thinking
Thank you, Iain. Your work is truly unique, inspiring and up-lifting. Either/or AND Both/and 😀
Well done that Man, Iain deserves to be on everyone's lips for his work
Once he works out the Stira Terminials and its "going all around the houses" he will understand almost everything that matters
"you cant step into the same puddle twice" means "everything changes"
Everything is a vibration, buts its never the same vibration forever its always changing frequency
which means your life experience is always flowing and changing at the same time
there must be 3 points of data
Great teacher -thank you -so appreciate your beautiful mind on the matters ….i especially love the coincidence of oposites …
Wonderful, much appreciated.
This work is so important and fascinating. Curious how this applies to how you would re-think education, especially for mid-career adults
Brilliant lecture and to me a most insightful and useful exposition of academic learning.
The left and the right halves of the brain are asymmetrical. I learned that from you. In mind matters, I'm just starting the section called "Hemispheric Differences in Pathologies of Judgment" p. 207. I have a left tbi and have noticed that you haven't said much about left side injuries and how they affect personality. I wonder if what you explain that is missing when the right half is injured may be strengthened in me? You just talked about anger and how much we are using our left sides today and the consequences. But I am very, very optimistic, I'm always smiling and try to bring out the best in everyone, barely any anger at all, only when I jump to conclusions when people are talking to me about specifics and I am very ridged. So I wonder, is it my right side taking over and have I lost much of my anger? It seem pretty impossible for me to sum things up, tidy my thoughts or start from scratch, but give me a day, week, month or year, and I can figure things out. Is it the gathering of information that is easy for me and the conclusions take longer due to lack of the left side? Am I making any sense to you? LOL, remember, I have a brain injury!
@05:55 -- 0:700 This setup with Q & A is an apt description of what assuming human-hood en-tails. Brilliant.
Profound , insightful, infused with meaning. Beautifully expressed. Thank you
extremely insightful! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge good sir.
Yes, please do that second part. Looking forward to that 👍
Thank you
Nice to hear such a talk even when nested in our own culture
What a time to be alive!
Mindblowing. I have long believed in the asymmetry of symmetry etc. Great to hear it more succinctly captured.
it's all asymmetry as Roger Penrose points out - the origin of the universe is asymmetric time that has no size as protoconsciousness nonlocality noncommutativity
Wow thank you ❤ human understanding humanity 🎉 it was believed to be impossible to understand the “self “ in concert term. But in flow and respectfully being mindful , it’s possible to embrace the nature of humanity by crossing the CC bridge the sacred.
Misunderstood and underestimated Right Hemisphere cultures might suffer in finding value in modern interpretations of good and bad.
Thank you for articulating what I observed and know from experience.
Thank you. 🎉
? Is winking LH grasping or focused attention!!
Salute!*
Truly inspiring I have the master and his emissary. Question have you read or looked at william russell the American scientist philosopher … you definitely expand my brain…im a 77 yr old retired police man a garda Siochana from Wexford in Ireland .. my local library has a copy of. The “ matter with things “ but unfortunately it’s part 11 I’m waiting for them 😊to get part 1/…..
Spot on, unsurprisingly.
Thank you for this synopsis on the nightmare we see unfolding all around us in this contemporary slide into barbarism.
Yes, it is frightening. I agree with how you describe the world right now. The world of my 50s and 60s childhood seems a universe away.
YES! Absolutely! Same here; He articulates succinctly what we know to be true and where we are all heading into the abyss .GAZA being the latest instalment.
Never left, barbarism that is. Time to pay ' attention'.
Doctors hate metaphors. Catch up. Fed up.
48:23 the noise creates uniqueness. Truly is remarkable how natures most beautiful things in life are off course just a hair. ❤
Randomly clicked on this video and then he starts talking about "two souls" and I'm like...yeah...my twinflame journey 😅 and the two shall become one flesh...im sure thats not whats meant here or maybe it is just implied specifically for my entertainment.
How lovely 😊
As a young boy i didnt know how everyone didnt know how connected to the underlying structure of everything everyone was.
As an old man I see How and Why.
What a wonderful lecture. Here and onwards, I proclaim that the knowledge and wisdom contained in this scripture shall be mandatory to all the politicians of my land. That is, once i become the president. Greetings from Poland.
Good idea, making it mandatory. Once you're president you can then create a large bureaucracy to manage it and a police force to enforce it.
One of the great tragedies of life is that despite all of his vast knowledge, Dr. McGilchrist has never encountered the great poet of our age, Maynard James Keenan. Spiral out Iain; keep going.
He did get to the spiral , showing many pix of it and elaborating on it.
Love Maynard too
Yes!... great poetry, beautiful singer and brilliant mind... so greatful for the medicine Maynard spreads.
Got to see Tool recently at the Boston Garden back in mid November, was in thr 10th row, so close I could see their facial expressions. My gawd was it one of the most amazing, not only concerts, but one of the most amazing experiences of my life. For sure.!!!
I enjoy Iains laugh😊
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Information downloads are bestowed.
I like "Everything Flows" 41:40 and how you explain the difference between change and flow. You can have form changes in experience but still be in the same experience. It makes it very difficult to get out of denial cause it is hard to recognize you haven't really learned from your experience because you think you have moved into something new, when in truth you are still reliving your past experience, just in a different form. There is more to this, but it gets convoluted a bit. But hopefully it makes since.
It does make since.
Hey. W/M/34/IN (like in aol chat lol)
Can you share some of the stuff you like with me? I'll look it all up. I need something new and you seem to be very interested in the same things that I am= philosophy, science, religion, humanity, love, so on...
Thanks in advance.
I see you like music.
Ani Difranco has a live album called "living in clip" you might listen to from beginning to end.
Her song Grey is a personal favorite of my mother.
Take care. Keep your chin up.
@georgewatts6221 Yes, I know Ani DiFranco's music pretty well. Gray is one of my favorites out of so many of my favorites of hers. She is amazing. I really only read one book and don't really recommend it to often. It can make a person crazy and the kind of crazy it is hard to come back from so I feel a great responsibility in it.
@@georgewatts6221 I have no idea what W/M/34/IM means? Sorry. We'll, I googled it. I guess it was an old aol chat room?
@@DreamingOfABetterDay
I can handle it.
My life has ultimately become a conscious vehicle in a training course of worst case scenarios manifested from within. I got this.
@@DreamingOfABetterDay white male 34 years of age Indiana usa. I assumed you were old enough to know.
Are you looking for the true nature of reality in the right place? Science only has the mind to work with through intellect. But intellect alone will not reveal reality because that is arising only from the conditioned mind. The true nature of reality can only be realised through wisdom which transcends the conditioned mind and becomes the witness to it.
A Japanese friend once told me that what is considered to be a beautiful face in Japan is largely physically symmetrical, but with asymmetrical beauty spots.
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Never let someone else make up your mind for you.
Hey Iain, I love your work and thank you it showed me what I was missing so many years. I couldn't work with this left brain material pursuit world. I was useless in the left brain education system and job system. I want tell you something that you can reference 100% about your study the 2 hemispheres. And that is our book "The Quran" which was revealed 14 centuries ago. Please reply to me and thank you again.
@27:25 Now, had this been a Metal Concert, FOH would have had that mic hooked up to a distortion pedal and the volume knob set to 11. The Mosh-Pit? Epic!
We are like a nucleus with a lot of empty space …..l and a puny intense density point we ponder with - with all these wild electrons going around us at speed of light. How can we ever grasp anything is a real miracle . Wow - our own “ LET THERE BE” we have cover the earth with sky towers and visited the moon and have a space station we hang out over the blue arc….and inventive all kinds of stories about the mystery of FIRST THINGS -visible or invisible .
I'd love to visit a science museum that is centered around devices. It wouldn't be inspiring to kids or whatever common tropes that glorify individuals that become household names. It would border on patents and position the historical context on the basis of geography. Guests would walk away contemplating use cases, top down and bottom up control mechanisms. Also the underwhelming reasons why a certain invention emerged at a particular time. Resource availability and next best achievement under current constraints
Reality "a betweenness", as in electrical charge - the ensemble of
positive negative and the transition across
Time : is also considered as relational at the fundamental (Planck scale) level
There can be no time without a relationship between objects
(It is a similar theme)
42:37 Reminds me of Marko Rodin Vortex Mathematics and interacting with Reality.
45:07 biosignature from biogeometry.
The vortex or whirlpool has a more mystical meaning in the ancient theology of Hermes, Orpheus & Pythagoras: it has the same meaning as the CLOUD or divine Glory of christianity: it is through sacred whorls or whirlpools that all things including the corporeal world - come into being. Great points.
The difference between the perspectives of the left and right brain were described in the TV show Seinfeld. When Jerry was dating a woman and when he seen her again he wasn't attracted to her. He blamed it on the lighting. His perspective changed because he viewed her with one side of the brain on separate occasions. She was logically attractive, then she was reasonably attractive or vice versa.
Is there anything we can do about where we are now? On an individual basis I can but can I bring that out in others to make a difference?
Strange comment about trump, not coming to his defence but for such a learned man I thought you understood the game and how it's played 👌
I suggest that one give attention to the Anaximander fragment, one of the earliest remnants of Greek philosophy. Greek philosophy started out exploring this process, until Socrates and Plato came along and created a static philosophy.
Socrates and plato are about the only ancient philosophers who did not create a static philosophy
Brilliant. So true, should be required viewing in all centers of higher education. I would add that human intelligence and evolution owes its place to the Precession of the Equinoxes. The downward arc to a Dark Age and the upward arc to a Golden Age which repeats at progressively higher levels until all substance (consciousness) is redeemed and brought to self-knowing. Fortunately, in spite of how bad things appear, we are at the beginning of the upward arc, the Dark Age is in the past. Christianity was born in the Pisces/Virgo era, Christianity symbolized by the Fish and the Virgin. The next age which Christ mentioned when he said to look for a man with a pitcher is Aquarius/Leo; the Water bearer and the Lion which lies ahead, a millennia or so away.
It mostly sounded like a bunch of creative but mushy word play around some great but standard ideas.
But it was inspiring and that is perhaps the greatest value of philosophy for us common people!
L brainer huh!
@@tanakaren1822Ad hominem
The right hemisphere of the brain represents personal identity and the left hemisphere of the brain represents consciousness type one of the first type (what generates both personal identity and consciousness type one is the self-concept). Personal identity is a kind of simulation of the self-concept generated by the concept of the self itself. But what happens in both hemispheres of the brain is a process and not absolute. all that was written many years ago in details, they have stolen and polluted human thoughts badly and worked on erasing human traces too.
Im hearing the common thread between spiritual (not religious, rules of) thought and intellectual/scientific thought. (Metaphysical and physical?)
And the necessity of both to form the whole.
Perhaps our universities will come around to allowing for scientific research to reach beyond the accepted norms to find what we dont know yet. As science should.
Much of these thoughts are very similar to Buddhist principles. Worth checking out the lectures of Thich Naht Hahn Zen Buddhist master, on YT.
The Law which I referred to before …the primary law. All is in the All and the All is in all ( the absolute)
Dear Earthlainling Mc Gil-Christ;
Your work in the theo sofical is quite extra odinary
I suppose one interesting question is which half is in charge of the other half, since they are so different, it's likely one has the upper hand in the 'self'. From what he says with localization of anger, control, maybe even optimism but that's a strange one, being localized left, it seems the left dominating the right would be narcissism? You could even speculate that anger draws the self into the left hemisphere. Other than that I can speculate as to the type of gear on each side
There’s a recording of my son wearing a T shirt we NEVER owned. Not in this timeline. Nor was it a popular shirt during any time for others. I’m not in drugs, but I do believe in parallel realities and that were in a merge to purify all timelines.
I’ve seen for myself that firsthand after a kundalini awakening. This whole world is a concoction of mind. At least, our world is man made. All through speech and language which form concepts.
Very interesting 👍 Makes me laugh that if AI gets truly conscious, that it would think like us, no! It would experience the world / cosmos in a way we could never imagine.
I'm left handed, I wonder if it's the other way around for me? I would love to see you in discussion with Joscha Bach
most left-handed people are still left brain dominant. Music training on an instrument from a young age - before age 9 - is proven to significantly increase the corpus callosum that integrates the right and left brain. Frequency of music is right brain dominant.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 interesting thank you
Could the limit in this case mean the crystalisation?
This was a pretty good talk, i kinda wanted him to say something about dmt xD
The tension you mention could be explained by the Great Attractor that is pulling us and time
39:54 nice apple pie recipe
20:50. I have this, I thought It would be a problem when I started to drive a car but it only happens when I'm not driving a car. come to think of it I have been eating mushrooms and I don't really remember happening for a while. I'm no longer worried about it.
We are actually living in a left hemisphere wold rigth now, actually
Thank you for this insightful and thought-provoking lecture, however, the question here is obvious. How do you know that you’re not leaning a little too much on the left side of your brain with your insistence on finding patterns of asymmetry of symmetry with asymmetry? Like in the Escher drawing you showed…
Did anyone else hear that in his voice at the end? How existentially scared he is? And feel as if they understood exactly why?
This was fascinating, thank you. I'd love to know if you think (Dr.) that AI will help us mature (for lack of a better word) spiritually as a means of better informing positive systemic and personal change.
The big Other does not exist.
@@philipm3173phewf. Thankfully someone with omniscience to assure humanity of the state of their existence. ;)
I would suggest that in order to make use of A.I. we must presume its competence, or give it some sort of academic or other competence, thus making of it, especially given the length of its sources which precludes frequent criticism of its methods, an oracle. Having done this we might find ourselves undertaking, at its behest, some nihillistic social reordering simlilar but more seemngly rational than the assault we currently defend against. We would thus allow, even more than we currently do, the disuetude of our own cognitive functions, with predictable consequences.