Very very interesting. Been using midi for 35 years and I find this really exciting. Going from a resolution of 128 to much much more will expand sounds so much. Thanks for the vid :)
Interesting question. In short: maybe. But it is possible. I don’t use Logic so it is hard for me to test this. Many questions arise, the most important is : “which Roland hardware do you own” some older devices can receive MIDI patch change only.. Other devices using USB could also transfer the patch list. The device and the software (Logic) would have to be coded to exchange this information. It is not a Standaert feature in hardware sadly. MIDI 2.0 could help is for future devices. In the end you will find yourself typing them in patch list in Logic.
To be clear about “USB-only”: MIDI 2.0 is transport-agnostic. It’s designed to work over BLE, Ethernet, etc. as well as any sort of transport coming up in the future. www.midi.org/articles-old/details-about-midi-2-0-midi-ci-profiles-and-property-exchange “Will MIDI 2.0 devices need to use a new connector or cable? No, MIDI 2.0 is a transport agnostic protocol. Transport- To transfer or convey from one place to another Agnostic- designed to be compatible with different devices Protocol-a set of conventions governing the treatment and especially the formatting of data in an electronic communications system” As for conceptual distinctions, it might not be too useful to get “in the weeds” as to what’s different between MIDI-CI (Capability Inquiry), Profile Configuration (MPE or drawbar?), Property Exchange (patchnames…), and Protocol Negotiation (falling back to MIDI 1.0 as needed). In a way, MIDI 2.0 still sounds like it’s “designed by committee”, unlike MIDI 1.0. It might even be overengineered. Is it as simple as it could be? Paul Lehrman’s explanation of MIDI 2.0 over at Synth and Software was particularly edifying, I thought. synthandsoftware.com/2020/06/why-we-need-midi-2-0/? Much more so than the “MIDI 2.0 for Musicians” webinar from the MIDI Association during “May Is MIDI Month”, to be honest.
Very very interesting. Been using midi for 35 years and I find this really exciting. Going from a resolution of 128 to much much more will expand sounds so much. Thanks for the vid :)
Thanks for the info, I look forward to some high resolutions knobs and stuff to try on old digital gear.... Cheers.
Great discussion.
What a great series! First model expansion for Zenology dropped this week, so there’s your next video.😉
Kind of a good timing!
Midi 2.0 *over networks* is the real game changer...
Im waiting for Roland a88 mk2 .
Thank you from India 🙏🏻.
Also I guess both hardware and the daw will have to support it
Will midi 2.0 increase midi timing sync for locking multiple daws via midi time code?
Will there be reduction in how long cables can be with MIDI 2 compared to MIDI 1?
Also do you think that it can be a simple firmware update to make compatible
A firmware update would
Only work for devices that can accept the new features. Some devices could but most will not.
I love all my Rolandz. But is it possible ro get the patch names into Logic PX? With MIDI 1.0?
Interesting question. In short: maybe. But it is possible. I don’t use Logic so it is hard for me to test this.
Many questions arise, the most important is : “which Roland hardware do you own” some older devices can receive MIDI patch change only.. Other devices using USB could also transfer the patch list. The device and the software (Logic) would have to be coded to exchange this information. It is not a Standaert feature in hardware sadly. MIDI 2.0 could help is for future devices. In the end you will find yourself typing them in patch list in Logic.
@@Nu-trix Yeah! I have the JD-XA, SE-02 and one A-01. Then I use Ableton 10 Suit and LPX. Since last week also Cubasis3 with AnDRoiD...
@@Nu-trix I Use both MIDI-din and USB. But this part confuse me a bit...
It will not be easy. Look up this post, maybe it will help. www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130471
To be clear about “USB-only”: MIDI 2.0 is transport-agnostic. It’s designed to work over BLE, Ethernet, etc. as well as any sort of transport coming up in the future.
www.midi.org/articles-old/details-about-midi-2-0-midi-ci-profiles-and-property-exchange
“Will MIDI 2.0 devices need to use a new connector or cable?
No, MIDI 2.0 is a transport agnostic protocol.
Transport- To transfer or convey from one place to another
Agnostic- designed to be compatible with different devices
Protocol-a set of conventions governing the treatment and especially the formatting of data in an electronic communications system”
As for conceptual distinctions, it might not be too useful to get “in the weeds” as to what’s different between MIDI-CI (Capability Inquiry), Profile Configuration (MPE or drawbar?), Property Exchange (patchnames…), and Protocol Negotiation (falling back to MIDI 1.0 as needed).
In a way, MIDI 2.0 still sounds like it’s “designed by committee”, unlike MIDI 1.0. It might even be overengineered. Is it as simple as it could be?
Paul Lehrman’s explanation of MIDI 2.0 over at Synth and Software was particularly edifying, I thought.
synthandsoftware.com/2020/06/why-we-need-midi-2-0/?
Much more so than the “MIDI 2.0 for Musicians” webinar from the MIDI Association during “May Is MIDI Month”, to be honest.
Is the bald guy a cyborg?
I don’t think so. I have know him for years. He seems human... at least to me.
Nobody will know why music got so much better after 2020.. we will .. But they wont
Studio one is first up. Presonus announced couple days ago the next installment of S1 is coming ..with "full" Midi 2.0 support