Dune Imperium: Immortality Review: Rise of the Chairdogs

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @claumoe
    @claumoe 2 роки тому +54

    Chris is an absolute joy. Thoughtful, friendly, intelligent.

    • @dewokkel
      @dewokkel 2 роки тому +1

      He’s got a good storyteller voice 🫡

  • @ilqrd.6608
    @ilqrd.6608 2 роки тому +55

    Chris is such a great part of this group. Really I love his contribution

  • @carmanragatz
    @carmanragatz 2 роки тому +18

    Apparently the spice must NOT flow! Poor Tom got cut off there at the end!

  • @vonwoolf9963
    @vonwoolf9963 Рік тому +4

    Dice Tower, what is the best setup in your opinion? Base game + Immortality, or Base game + Rise of Ix + Immortality?

  • @MichaliSarris
    @MichaliSarris 2 роки тому +13

    Lot of compression artifacts in the video, curious what's the cause of that (might be youtube itself)?
    Expansion looks great, can't wait to try it.

    • @CrispyMyth
      @CrispyMyth 2 роки тому

      This. I've seen this lately with DT videos but not on any others. Pretty sure this is a DT thing. 😞

  • @draheim90
    @draheim90 2 роки тому +16

    When I first learned what was in this one, I was also really worried it would make the game a bit too clunky, thinky, and bog it down as it seemed maybe a bit too much. Really happy to hear that the additions do require some thought but are quite fun, interesting, and don’t slow the game down!

  • @JonTalbain777
    @JonTalbain777 2 роки тому +18

    Already ordered this one! Good on Chris mentioning the price:materials ratio. DI is a fantastic design and I have the deluxe and like it a ton, but I always did feel the price point was a wee bit high considering the components in and of themselves. I guess they have every right to charge a bit of a premium for a great design people love, but still it's nice that someone pointed that out.

    • @Mahler1988
      @Mahler1988 2 роки тому

      Board game is not just about materials but design effort. I prefer to pay a lil' more for a genius design.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 2 роки тому +3

      @@Mahler1988 Tbf as genius as the rest of the game might be, I wish it also borrowed a genius market row like what Dale of Merchants or Copycat did years ago, rather than Ascension's cloggy one wholesale. Especially from a designer who says "good isn't good enough"

  • @jonkirk2118
    @jonkirk2118 Рік тому +1

    The overview was great. Many thanks. At about 01:54, Chris calls the Bene Tleilax a new faction, but the official FAQ as at 14 Dec 22 says they're not:
    "Tleilaxu track - The Bene Tleilax are not a faction. Effects that let you gain Influence with any faction can’t be used to advance on the Tleilaxu track."

  • @LeeKenshin7
    @LeeKenshin7 2 роки тому +7

    We've been playing Dune with a house-rule where, after the first round, the last card on display gets "trashed". Family atomics sounds great. The market must flow.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 2 роки тому +5

    What about those video image glitches in the review part?

  • @swillsswil4817
    @swillsswil4817 2 роки тому +7

    Calling the Tlelaxu "morally questionable" is quite generous. If you read further into the series you see how morally depraved they really are.

  • @dansioui9819
    @dansioui9819 2 роки тому +15

    2 things I love:
    The release of reviews every Sunday and the new thumbnails you use for the reviews

    • @glossonbilly
      @glossonbilly 2 роки тому

      The thumbnails are extremely helpful!

  • @MatheusVenti
    @MatheusVenti 2 роки тому +3

    Yeah the Family Atomics is a fix needed since Clank! I played a few matches of Dune Imperium where at some point no one buy any cards anymore, once all the availables are bad for all players.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 2 роки тому +1

      Typical problem with the vanilla Ascension-style markets it seems. Bit sad that the designer who said "good isn't good enough" deemed it good enough despite Dale of Merchants, Volfyirion, and Copycat solving it years earlier

    • @enzocrespin5806
      @enzocrespin5806 2 роки тому +3

      There's a custom rule from BGG called "the sandworm eats the card" that you may use, it cycles the market every turn, the last card on the right disappears if no one has bought it

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 2 роки тому

      @@enzocrespin5806 so basically Arnak's magic staff?

    • @enzocrespin5806
      @enzocrespin5806 2 роки тому

      @@revimfadli4666 I dunno I've only played Arnak once and it was vanilla

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 2 роки тому

      @@enzocrespin5806 I was referring to the round marker in the vanilla lol

  • @tylerferrara6612
    @tylerferrara6612 2 роки тому +14

    My question though is how does it play when paired with Ix? Or are you better playing one expansion or the other?

    • @jonny1speed85
      @jonny1speed85 2 роки тому +1

      I think it plays great with Ix. The great thing about it is that you can pretty much ignore it and it'll give you a few things on auto pilot that you can suppliment your normal base game/Ix strategies with, or go really deep in to it and focus on a new way of playing completely.

  • @IdlestHands
    @IdlestHands 2 роки тому +5

    Tom from The Rise of Ix review "I will never play without Rise of Ix" ;)

  • @XanYT
    @XanYT 2 роки тому +6

    I wish they each mentioned what they would probably prefer. This with Ix or this w/o. Idk if I should pickup Ix now.

    • @nathansutterfield
      @nathansutterfield 2 роки тому +10

      Depends but I think Rise of Ix is an essential expansion. It makes the less interesting board spaces either replaced or enhanced into arguably the most competitive spaces on the board. It adds techs resulting in more asymmetry, the dreadnought addition makes conflict far more interesting as well controlling locations occur more regularly. And the best addition is it changes the rhythm or pattern of play significantly - spice is far more versatile. It is not just for getting more solari which mainly was for getting your last worker.
      Mind you I have not played Immortality and it is already on my buy list but I will never play Dune Imperium without Ix. I hope this response is helpful

    • @DuncanHall2070
      @DuncanHall2070 Рік тому

      Ix is a great expansion I think that you should definitely buy that one. Immortality I have not played but if you really like dune imperium I would get it for sure. I'm buying immortality tomorrow I love dune imperium

  • @mountainpony
    @mountainpony 2 роки тому +7

    Was looking forward to this one, excited to hear it's good! By the way, you guys are still having a camera issue during movement in your recordings lately. It's even present during the discussion portion in this video. Not a major issue, but it seems to be getting worse...

  • @ezrawinston9025
    @ezrawinston9025 2 роки тому +4

    The spice… what??? Edge of my seat here

  • @johnmc703
    @johnmc703 2 роки тому +4

    Will this fit into the big storage box? The cards might but what about the new board

    • @lawofgravity1979
      @lawofgravity1979 2 роки тому +2

      According to BGG it will fit in the box. I’m pretty sure if it didn’t there would be uproar already about it

    • @henrikwakman7776
      @henrikwakman7776 2 роки тому

      How big of an issue would an extra little box be anyway?

    • @sarumon17
      @sarumon17 2 роки тому +1

      @@henrikwakman7776 For many people (not really me) it's a grievous offense

    • @henrikwakman7776
      @henrikwakman7776 2 роки тому +1

      @@sarumon17 So you place it next to the box. Or on top of the box. Or somewhere non-adjecent. See nobody dies:p

    • @Josh-hz8vz
      @Josh-hz8vz Рік тому +1

      @@henrikwakman7776 in general not a big deal but for people who paid for the deluxe big box only to have this little expansion not fit I can understand the irritation

  • @jamesknowles9236
    @jamesknowles9236 2 роки тому +3

    This looks cool, but it's missing 2 things that would've made it an auto buy for me: New leaders and new tech cards. They could have easily added a couple of new leaders and 3-6 new tech cards and then this would have been amazing. I'll still probably pick it up at some point, but it's not an instant purchase.

    • @valkorion2307
      @valkorion2307 2 роки тому

      That's very true. I first thought it had three new leaders cause I somehow missed the fact that there were six new leaders in Rise of Ix (I thought there were only two) and was excited as I saw the what I that were three new leaders in a video inly to learn that they came with Rise of Ix. I think they missed an opportunity to create more worth here. They could have just split them up 3-3 on the expansions especially as three of them did not interact with the mechanics the last expansion brought

  • @drbasseri
    @drbasseri Рік тому +1

    so true about the price point, glad I'm not the only one that thinks that

  • @Mentat1231
    @Mentat1231 2 роки тому +2

    So, would you play Dune with both expansions at the same time?

  • @nkesteren
    @nkesteren Рік тому +1

    Got excited and bought both. 😅

  • @andrewbrassington2856
    @andrewbrassington2856 Рік тому

    Would you reccomend just using this, or ix or does putting both in still work well?

  • @sarumon17
    @sarumon17 2 роки тому

    Thank DT team, just moved to a new city, hoping to find a new game group that will play dune: imperium! This is probably my number one expansion on my buy list.

  • @brianl6151
    @brianl6151 2 роки тому +12

    Is it just me or Roy looks either under the weather or a little unlike himself lately? Nobody ever brings the energy/passion quite like Roy. Anyway hope you are well sir. The DT has a great cast overall and awesome to get content over the weekend as well.

  • @ilqrd.6608
    @ilqrd.6608 2 роки тому +9

    The game really turned into „Tracks: The Game“

  • @michaelhall7080
    @michaelhall7080 2 роки тому +2

    Wow high marks all around! I love this game and looking forward to the new expansion. Easily my top game this year and in my top 5 all time. Thanks!

  • @davachoec
    @davachoec 2 роки тому +1

    Possibly Big Box….?

  • @jonathanzj620
    @jonathanzj620 2 роки тому

    Chris nailed that walkthrough

  • @Kcnabrev
    @Kcnabrev 2 роки тому

    But does it fit in the bigbox?

  • @fingolfinfinwe
    @fingolfinfinwe 2 роки тому +2

    Wooo! Can't wait for this to ship! :D

  • @mrbastos
    @mrbastos 2 роки тому

    I cannot wait for this to arrive

  • @ВячеславШолохов-ф9п

    ...must flow

  • @TheBrokenMeeple
    @TheBrokenMeeple 2 роки тому +1

    So finally the deck building is good?

    • @CK-mi3sd
      @CK-mi3sd 2 роки тому

      Luke, the game now plays extremely similar to other deck building card games now. I like it even more than most other deck building games.

    • @TheBrokenMeeple
      @TheBrokenMeeple 2 роки тому

      @@CK-mi3sd I would certainly give the game another try with this included if that's the case. The deck building in the base game + 1st expansion was damn near broken.

    • @hugolio_81
      @hugolio_81 2 роки тому +2

      It's more card drafting than deck building

    • @fm07teaching
      @fm07teaching 2 роки тому

      @@hugolio_81 100% agree

    • @CK-mi3sd
      @CK-mi3sd 2 роки тому

      @@hugolio_81 I would disagree. If you buy plenty of trashing cards and go to Bene often to trash cards, you will get a decent deck to do crazy combos at the end.

  • @sarumon17
    @sarumon17 2 роки тому +1

    Also the price point on this sounds way better than rise of ix.

    • @halveeuro
      @halveeuro 2 роки тому

      This expansion does not add any additional leaders and looks less of gameplay change than Rise of Ix imo. Rise of Ix gives you more strategic depth and this seems to add just more fun to play cards and move on a track. Also the price difference is only 7 EUR?

    • @sarumon17
      @sarumon17 2 роки тому

      @@halveeuro this is 30$. Rise of ix is 45-50$ in US. That’s the same price as the base game. . .

    • @sarumon17
      @sarumon17 2 роки тому

      Sorry I guess it’s recently gone down to 40, but that’s still siZeable for an expansion.

    • @halveeuro
      @halveeuro 2 роки тому

      @@sarumon17 Newer stuff will always be more expensive than older stuff. But I agree with you that the expansion isn't cheap! I hoped it was cheaper but I guess it has something to do with the IP. We've played the base game over 30 times and 25+ games with Rise of Ix. So I'm quite sure it will be worth the money for us. :)

    • @enzocrespin5806
      @enzocrespin5806 2 роки тому

      @@sarumon17 depends on the country, in France it's 30-35€ while the base game is around 50€

  • @conan_der_barbar
    @conan_der_barbar Рік тому

    would like a small expansion with only new cards

  • @nshaw1299
    @nshaw1299 2 роки тому

    9:04 And that my friends, is what you call Epoxy!

  • @kurlykrenins
    @kurlykrenins 2 роки тому +4

    Just watched the playthrough last night. Great timing. 👍Although I'm buying ( preordered months ago) Immortality no matter what.
    Easily a top 10 board game that keeps getting better. I feel bad for people that don't like / understand the Dune theme /lore. It's soooooo good.

  • @ormstunga7878
    @ormstunga7878 2 роки тому

    Great job guys, keep it up. I love these reviews with more opinions and ratings 🙌🙂

  • @theoldman2821
    @theoldman2821 2 роки тому

    Well I must be the dumbest person in the room. I thought the awful name Rise of the Chairdogs was the full name of the expansion. It's been many decade since I read the book; I thought I missed something.

  • @iphatbass
    @iphatbass 2 роки тому +1

    Two hour game? We finish 4 player games in less than hour xD

  • @george_castle
    @george_castle 2 роки тому +2

    CHAIRDOGGGGG!!!!!

  • @HazardGoat
    @HazardGoat 2 роки тому +3

    Dune Imperium already has way too many icons, I can't imagine adding any more. My group spends more than half the game asking "What does this mean? What does that mean? What is this thing?"

    • @zsoltnagy3991
      @zsoltnagy3991 2 роки тому +2

      Oh boy, check out Race for the Galaxy than. :)

    • @hugolio_81
      @hugolio_81 2 роки тому +5

      Really? I feel the game is very intuitive and I don't ever recall us ever having any issues with icons

    • @jonny1speed85
      @jonny1speed85 2 роки тому

      Play it a couple more times to learn or put the icon appendix on the table. Most games have a lot of icons nowadays, I wouldn't say D:I has more than the average.

    • @DuncanHall2070
      @DuncanHall2070 Рік тому

      Get it played more and you’ll get the icons down pat. I personally don't think it has that many icons compared to other games

    • @spunx44
      @spunx44 8 місяців тому

      Skill issue

  • @MrGreeneyes77
    @MrGreeneyes77 2 роки тому +2

    Does it bother anyone else that Chris sounds EXACTLY like Zee???

  • @corrado8955
    @corrado8955 2 роки тому +4

    Love Dune Imperium. Love Rise of Ix. This just looks like bloat the expansion to me. They’re taking the spice must flow a bit too far. That being said, the token for market refresh is going to be added to my game immediately.

  • @ronaldbell7429
    @ronaldbell7429 11 місяців тому

    To be fair, all the factions in the Dune universe were morally questionable

  • @Fissi0nChips
    @Fissi0nChips 2 роки тому

    Bad idea to use that token on the techs.

  • @torelaursen4139
    @torelaursen4139 2 роки тому +3

    I worry that the game doesn't feel as tight with the new expansion. I think that the base game war very good and very tight. The ix expansion opened it up a little bit. But maybe this is too much? The games core strenght is how tight it feel with 4 players. The only player count for this game.

    • @IdlestHands
      @IdlestHands 2 роки тому +2

      I agree. This looks interesting but I wouldn't want to play with both this and Ix. The tightness of the game is a big part of its appeal for me.

    • @davidriemaker
      @davidriemaker 2 роки тому +11

      What are you talking about? This game plays great with 3 players or solo.

    • @hugolio_81
      @hugolio_81 2 роки тому +2

      I've found it's fine with 2 too!

    • @DuncanHall2070
      @DuncanHall2070 Рік тому +2

      ​@@davidriemaker I agree haven't played solo but 3 players is great

    • @DuncanHall2070
      @DuncanHall2070 Рік тому

      ​@@hugolio_81 I love it at 2

  • @hugolio_81
    @hugolio_81 2 роки тому

    I have a man-crush on Tom. Chris belongs on radio. Shout out to the other guy.

  • @jacobjslee
    @jacobjslee 2 роки тому +1

    That victory point track . . . ugh. VP tracks in games bug me for some reason and it would take a more intelligent person than myself to explain why. I first encountered it in Snowdonia and every game since that features it I end up selling not really knowing why I didn't like the game enough to keep. Most recently I sold off Maracaibo and Arnak. I think D:I with Ix is perfect for me.

    • @hugolio_81
      @hugolio_81 2 роки тому +1

      I'm relatively new to board games. My initial gripe was that you never know who is winning! Give me VP tracks with possible endgame twists everyday!

  • @RetroMaticGamer
    @RetroMaticGamer 2 роки тому +3

    As much as I looked forward to the first expansion, Rise of Ix, it actually ruined the game for me. It made the game longer and more complex when I felt it was already pretty much perfect as it was; this expansion looks no better. It overcomplicates a game which drew me in by being straightforward and easy to play! All we REALLY needed were more personas to be and maybe some more cards to shuffle into the decks. This is a hard pass for me.

    • @spunx44
      @spunx44 2 роки тому +5

      It's like you didn't even watch the review.

    • @DuncanHall2070
      @DuncanHall2070 Рік тому

      Overcomplicates the first expansion is easy to add you could teach it to new people and they wouldn't know the difference. I can't speak for the second but it doesn't look to add that much complexity