"WHY I Quit Collecting Sports Cards"
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- It looks like some folks are quitting collecting sports cards.
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Buy singles, you get exactly what you want for less money, no brainer.
The repackers pay top $ for cards
It kills the market for the “singles buyer guy”
Yes, but trust me, they’re no connection to just buying singles a majority of the time. Outside of a couple grail chase cards, that took years to find, there’s no story/connection. So eventually all these people will cash out. Topps/Panini are just riding the wave now, but we’re heading towards a massive crash. Maybe worse than the 2000’s.
That's all I do too is just buy singles and easier to deal with dealers at small shows
Also there is a difference between flipping and collecting. Collecting you don't get hurt.
100 percent agree!
Absolutely correct! I only collect Pirates and mostly non graded cards! I only have graded ones because the prices were cheaper than the ungraded ones
We need a card recyling program to get the common trash out of the system!
They’re made of cardboard. Recycle them
I agree. No new cards should be manufactured from new paper. Cards should be 100% recycled from old commons or hobby related recycled paper. It can be done. Make it so Fanatics.
Rebuild yourself. Vintage cards of star players is still very strong. Real rare cards are in Vintage.
I got back into the hobby last year. Collected MLB Topps series...Just so many cards...the market is just over saturated. Can only collect singles - makes zero sense to collect any other way.
Yeah, i came back into the hobby during the pandemic like everyone else. I started watching Jab's rip and rip and rip, so i did some ripping and just felt burned. So instead of ripping i thought i could just keep everything sealed, so i bought a few sealed baseball stuff, but came to realize no one wants last years mid to low end stuff. They keep going on to the newest hottest release so there's no value gain there. Then i took a step back realized i don't really care about the players or sports in general, i like watching it from time to time, but i don't follow anyone specific. But i do enjoy watching movies and spotting my favorite celebrities. Then i made the leap to fun celebrity autos and that's when i really started to enjoy collecting again.
I also enjoy the pop culture card stuff
I agree! As a father getting back into the hobby with my 2 younger sons, just want them to be excited bc they got cards of players they know. Prices make it hard but we go ahead and celebrate the very occasional hit. Great video!! Appreciate it!
I spent so much $ on cards in 2022 and got burned. The market has been firing back up again and I have chosen this moment in time to sell the rest of my entire collection which brings me back into the black. Having spent >$1M on sports cards since 2018 and I've realized that buying some pokemon packs and ripping with my kids is where I want to be. I got caught up in the IG spotlight of having some of the rarest and most valuable cards and I think that's rather foolish. Trying to get back to the roots of building sets with my kids.
I purchased 2 Michael Jordan Fleer 86 PSA 10's for $1.6m in 2021. Thank god I've got $490m in the bank.
@@DanielCordone9😂😂😂👌
Yeah i made close to 100K back n 2020 gave a nice dwn payment on my house I had a huge 🔌 a Vendor from MJ Holdings would sell me all the Prizm , Select, Optic, Topps Chrome for the Retail price so imagine shit my buddy opened up a Local Card Shop what crazy time & only in America I believe your out of rhe Card collecting game when you completely stop dropping UA-cam videos 🤷🏻♂️just keeping it 💯💥💥💥
I just decided to quit collecting as well. Just started selling off. Rookies are the most expensive before they've done anything and then the value drops. It's the strangest market in the world. The all time great best cards are thousands of dollars.
You are right.. from a long term perspective it makes no sense. The problem is that there are a ton of people willing to waste all kinds of money so when cards come out everything is overpriced by 10 times so you can’t buy almost anything without losing your shirt on it long term. There are then a few that rise from the ashes but long term that is very few and far between and the way they print cards nowadays it is really questionable how much even the best players cards will be worth.
I rarely see people quit collecting, specially, when the market is so depressed. Now’s the time to snatch everything you were mad at not being able to afford the last few years. People are quitting flipping and it’s not really their decision,lol.
Prices are still way higher than precovid. Were nowhere near the bottom.
@@johnwayne9828 I’m not projecting we’ll hit bottom.
I’m certainly not rooting for it…
@@johnwayne9828 Nothing is going back to pre-covid prices
I dont collect anymore due to prices but i still enjoy card content. I sometimes go to the card shop just to look around at stuff and prices but i saw a box of topps chrome baseball for $550 and i just laughed to myself and walked out the door.
And the sad thing about it is that card shop owner probably paid $500 for the box
I think instead of having this discussion about wax and the kids, we should focus on singles. Kids can collect cards with $1 you don’t need high end stuff to enjoy the hobby
We are never going to go back to cheap stuff. It just cost too much to produce the stuff. You can enjoy the hobby and not buy packs and boxes
The Curry/Messi card isn’t for everyone. That’s OK. The target market is people into both basketball & soccer. Not everything has to be for you. Expanding the hobby is in part appealing to people other than the existing buyers as well.
Buying into breaks is like gambling, well it’s not like it is gambling. You buy into a break for $100 for a chance at a 100000 wemby auto or something. Just an example. Maybe it’s just me, yes I have bought into numerous breaks and that’s what draws me to it, it’s gambling but with a guaranteed return of some sort.
Man it depends on the value. You see some crazy shit sometimes on whatnot. Like 6 optic megas and the Texans go for 300$ lol like I know you can get them at retail price but still it's insane
@@216cle for sure. I’m talking like a case of Topps chrome basketball for one team like $150. Everyone more or less is buying in for a chance at the spurs who in a pyt would be like 1500. That’s the gamble really. But yes you correct about what you said
Idk why so many people come online and preach about kids wanting to collect “cool stuff” or “players they like” and other stuff like that. Literally every kid over the age of 8 I talk to at card shows wants rare and valuable cards. That’s it. They don’t give a flying F about their “favorite player.” Their favorite is likely someone they bought into hype for during 2020. Even when I was collecting Pokémon way back in 1999 at age 7, the coolness was derived from the value and rarity. You think it was tough to find retail in 2020? The run on Pokémon back in the day was even crazier than that. It’s always been about hype and value. At least as long as I’ve been alive.
I collected Pokemon back in the late 1990's. I know myself, and my friends weren't thinking much about condition. If we did, a lot of the expensive cards for Pokemon wouldn't be so expensive.
100%. That's why I say long term, the hobby is dead. Because its not making new collectors. And none of the kids I've seen at shows or trade nights collect. They all just wanna be little cc2s walking around with cases with tens of thousands in cards, when a generation ago we were happy to pull a 5 dollar card.
Yeah these aren't the same kids collecting in the 80's and 90's. I think part of it too is kids have a lot less loyalty as sports fans. Fewer and fewer actually watch the games and support their local teams. Players also change teams like they didn't in the past. Kids are a lot quicker to move on to what's next.
Difference is back then, we had the Beckett price guide that kept cooler heads prevailed and the market under control. Now, it's about the latest, highest online sale.... overall, I agree. Hopefully, the manufacturers lead the way by creating and lowering the prices of these boxes while increasing the returns within the boxes but then... it's up to the secondary market to keep cool heads on single items.
exactly i miss the old beckett
Its sad. How can a kid afford these cards? There was a time when it was just about getting your favorite player and trading others their favorite player. When i drop in to buy some cards on whatnot, i dont hear people asking for players. It is always "you have any autos, rpas, numbered, holo, lazer, zebra, refractor" blah blah blah. Even the sellers dont even know what they have 😆.
The problem isn't the cards. It is the kids. Still plenty of kids who don't worry about premium and are happy to collect some base of their favorite players or set build base. But a lot of kids are focused on the perceived market value and the premium stuff.
In the early 90's, I bought a pack of cards with $20 I earned from helping my mom clean an office. That would be around $50 for a pack today. It was a big deal for me. But I had binders full of Fleer, Hoops, etc, because I would go to the local LCS every few weeks and spend what would be around $10 today. There was that premium product and there was the affordable product. That is still the case today.
A kid can get a blaster of 2024 Topps Big League Baseball. Fine looking cards from Topps that have guaranteed parallels and chances at autos. That is more than I was getting from packs in the 90's, the cards look nice, and there is nice variety with inserts that you weren't getting in the early 90's as a kid. The blaster is easy to find for under $20 with 10 packs of 8 cards in it. One of my LCS's will sell a kid a loose pack from a hobby box of the product for $2.
If you go to a card show or spend time in a LCS, you will see kids come through that are spending just a few dollars and a $5 single is a big purchase that they are thrilled with. They will look through sub-$1 singles and have a blast. You don't go to Whatnot for that. You go to Whatnot specifically to spend more money on more premium stuff, or to satisfy the same urge adults satisfy at casinos and with scratchers.
Nothing is stopping kids from collecting for cheap, and collecting their favorite players. They can collect cheaper now, of better quality products (variety in sets with parallels and inserts), than a 90's kid could. The problem isn't the product. The problem is the perception from people who are only seeing examples like Whatnot and all the social media of kids who think perfectly good cards that many can enjoy collecting are junk because they aren't National Treasure or Short Prints from premium.
Stop looking at Whatnot and social media from pint sized degenerates as an example of what is going on with every kid and start recognizing that there are affordable options for kids who want to collect and aren't obsessed with perceived market value versus just enjoying accessible product.
you can literally go to dave and adams and buy boxes in the clearance section for 30/40 bucks. Is it the newest sexy thing with huge hits? No lol When people say they're getting priced out of the hobby thats like me saying i'm getting priced out of a car because I can't afford a mustang
I can assure you that many kids these days do not care about physical cards, only their devices
@@MultiBrodeur it's sad. I enjoyed riding my bike and hanging out with my friends outside until street lights turns on.
Good point. It's all about the nostalgia. I'm going to tell my kids I collected whole bunch of Will Grier cards.
I like to collect and I still build sets for fun/therapy- whatever you wanna call it. I get a lot of dups of course and I always give my extra common cards to kids while also including decent inserts and parallels too which I package in used hanger boxes-they love that because it feels like they are still opening something new. . Just wanna keep the hobby going and sharing with the kids feels right -and saves space!
I thought it was because that vintage sports shack guy has been throwing you under the bus
The lower end price to value
Is way too big a risk
And 1000% in this economic climate worldwide. You reap what you sow Fanatics!! And loose the new collector and this will effect you for decades ahead.
I’ve made a final comment here.. I’ve stopped waching ur videos becuase of ur titles…. they are bait… this video is “why I” stopped collecting… click bait… it has nothing to do with you even tho you said “I”…. so embarrassing for u to me seeing that title and then just a bunch of sponser stuff in the beginning and then nothing about you stopping collecting… my last view of ur video…. sorry.. but I want real content on the hobby.. good bye...
Flipping is gambling . Simple.
Baby Boomers have ALOT of money and they are all retiring getting back into the hobby.
I wonder how long before the market of gamblers/flippers move on, and ppl give up on expensive wax. I think we are about 1-2 years out from a majority shift, and Topps will control everything at that point, and I think a lot of collectors will just be exhausted at that point, being over priced wax for 5+ years.
Too late, everything that isn’t numbered is trash. Base autos prime example
When I was 9-14 I spent a lot of money for someone who had to earn their own money doing side jobs for the neighborhood. I spent all my money on cards because I loved it. Kids can’t afford these product prices which is sad because it’s ultimately about the next generation and kids can’t afford this stuff! There is way too much Covid hangover in the hobby to this day when it comes to prices 🤦♂️
"Spending $40 to get back $5" vs spending $1 to get back 10 cents. I remember checking Beckett in the early 90s and you would be happy to see a MNT card in your collection worth $1.00 and it was usually a Griffey, Canseco or Bo Jackson. If they sold card packs for $1-2 bucks now, don't expect the cards to have much value. If they had really rare cards in those cheap packs, then people would be hoarding them. There has to be a balance.
I think they could sell the packs for 5 bucks and all they had to do was number some of the cards to keep the value. No need autos.
Its a risk/reward system. I hate that Panini raised the price on all of their products without making them worth it. That right there hurt the hobby by itself. $34 for a blaster box is insane. I have loved collecting cards. They have been very good to me. Not only do I collect, I can sell and make money as well. It is really up to the individual person how they can make it work.
It’s all happening another 1/1 😂
yes annnnoother 1/1 and another one next week lol
@@TheSportsCardDad seriously thr ultra modern stuff is so dumb with millions of different animal skins and different colors of the same card. It’s like the card companies are just lazy and dont want to create cool cards like their were in the 90’s with all the cool inserts from then.
Just collect singles, I haven’t opened a pack in 15+ years because you don’t get the cards you want most of the time. I only collect NY Islanders cards and pick and choose what I want. Most people who break are gambling addicts.
Just buy serial numbered inserts....I collect 90's inserts that are serial numbered and they are fun to hunt for and pretty liquid when I want to sell.
I commented on his video, but i don’t understand when people say the hobby is too expensive today? Yes, the high end stuff is ridiculous, but the mid/low end stuff is affordable. Modern Base cards are very affordable raw, PSA 9, even PSA 10. Yes, they won’t appreciate, but it’s no different than base cards of the junk wax era when we all collected. I think some people in the hobby want it both ways as they want cards cheap but for them to appreciate 10x. You get what you pay for.
@@chrisolivo6591 People looking for lotto tickets and retirement packages just like we did back in the day with Gregg Jeffries!!
Too expensive pertaining to new product, but yes I completely agree on the singles side. Cards for all budgets
I would be very curious to know the % of kids who are into cards now that are actually building sets, team sets, have binders vs kids that are all about the chase and the flip etc. If social media accounts and influencers are always pumping the chases and the high end stuff, and that is who these kids are learning the hobby from, why would they care about the base stuff like we once did in our youth? Will that nostalgia you are talking about even exist? I would love to think so but I really doubt it. I don't think "the hobby" is the same thing we loved as children. *I am 41 years old, by the way haha
No, that nostalgia will not exist for them. There is no hobby longterm because all the kids brought in since covid are, as you say, inspired by guys like cc2 and roth who only care about chasing money.
If the manufacturer could put some focus on lower to kid end cards and have those exclusive to LCS, that would be awesome. The problem is, these breakers get their hands on everything, including the retail stuff, then the prices go up. That's the problem.
Y didn't even say why u quit collecting
Thanks for the video! I stopped buying boxes years ago. I still remember paying $500 for a box and feeling like I wasted money. I only buy singles now. My biggest issue is still price. The sports cards I want the sellers are not very reasonable, some 2x the last comps. I would be buying a lot more if sellers were more willing to negotiate than automatically want 2 to 3x comps. I did recently pick some really nice Star Wars auto cards, so I'll continue to pivot until I can find prices more normal for the things I want.
nickeled and dimed. I spent thousands every so often. Ive stopped and gotten down to hundreds..."I have to have [this much to sell it].,."
Why pay $1,500.00 for motif box and try to secure a massive hit when in reality your chances are slim to none for getting or making money on your investment and slim just left town. I’m tired of paying $500.00 a box for cards and only getting back half my money back - yes I hit the occasional 1 of 1 auto or super rook but a day is coming when no one is gonna want to pay thousands of dollars for this or that card ..and sadly it might end up being one massive ponzi scheme when collectors have an incredible collection and no one wants their cards cuz they don’t have the extra cash.
So are you quitting or just not buying $800 boxes of cards? Clarify.
Not buying $800 boxes
You haven't seen anything yet ALOT are going to quit in the next few years, I'm one doing it as we speak, and anyone buying and opening at these prices needs there head checked, 🥴
I've quadrupled my money in fine art
A true price guide.
Since the baseball hobby boxes have doubled in price within 6 months, i'm out and go for singles or bulks. My big pc are Mike Tyson cards and magazines, therefore i don't have to break anything.
98% of modern is junk. Too many sets, too many parallels, checklists are too big. Financially it doesnt make sense and hoping this Breaker bubble bursts soon and the focus on hype and customer churn burns and crashes.
Only fools buy into breaks just buy singles because you always get the card you want 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
I started w 1987 topps baseball. I believe it may have been 35 cents a pack. I remember my dad grabbing me 7 packs and each pack had gum inside.
I cant buy 200,300,500 boxes of cards. I feel its a waste of money. I will spend on singles though.
Thanks for the content! The hobby will always be here if you choose to return. Hobby isnt going anywhere.
Oh I’m not going anywhere. I was referencing another video where he decided to stop collecting cards
I have a cool CeeDee Lamb R&S “Thrillers” parallel coming in the mail soon. I paid like $3 for it. I think that’s way better than me trying to find this one single card by ripping Panini Rookies & Stars till I find it. 😅
I was worried it was you.. I was like.. noooooo .. plus a Metallica shirt after a Pearl Jam concert.. hell ya!
Its all about the bottom line, whatever drives the profits is what they will make.
Recycling is news for most things.Doest cardboard or cards count.Made cheep and priced to sell?
Boy the rambling on lol took what seems like 20 minutes to get to the point! LOL!
Theirs a difference in collecting or investing i collect and dabble in investing if you buy to collect theirs no boundaries but invest you might find yourself buying cards that wont get you know where unless you know you have to buy flawless to get the big hits i think its stupid how they have it set up like let the hobby have some hits for regular people who cant afford give them a break from time to time i dont have a card shop around me the only one is for pokemon and magic cards
Just buy gold
Junk 1:1 era in full force! 🤭
I've been buying my 90s hockey junk numbered cards of my fave players singles baby just for fun cheap stuff
Click bait! Big tease with this one
You were so excited to pounce! Lol
@@TheSportsCardDad haha caught me! Interesting take tho
I like the shirt boss hog!
Football cards are way overpriced love baseball ⚾️ I seem to do better there.
Nice video. What you said makes sense.
Thanks 🙏
See ya!!!!!
Another good episode!
thanks man!
What up SCD
Morning!!
Who dat?
The hobby has something for everyone. People need to stop worrying about investment. Just collect. It’s that simple
@@AmariAultman The problem with that is that 95% of the people in this HOBBY are just in it for the money. Look at how many clicks and views Jeff gets when he takes a victory lap on his Star Jordan purchase. How about he take that same victory lap with his Desmond Ridder buys and his other losses. Money is going to drive this hobby and Fanatics will capitalize on that fact……Dustin’s no different than anyone else that’s in it for the money…..
@@TheBargainBoxer I can’t say you’re wrong.
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Nice video
Thanks!