Im a brown belt in Bjj and i appreciate this your channel very much. I trained under Professor Ricardo Almeida while I was stationed in new jersey and he maintained the practice of teaching self defense. I still teach the techniques and express to my students that BJJ is a martial art first and foremost and we shouldn't forsake it for the sporting aspects.
When I started Judo as a child in the late 1970s and early 1980s our training sessions (from a former RAF instructor) consisted of randori, throwing technique, newaza and applied self defence drills. We were recommended to read Kudo's red and green 'Judo in Action' books for technique study - I still have my copies.
Thank you Chadi for sharing the rich history of Classical Judo! You stated the facts so eloquently. It is for reason that can not add to what stated. Once again thank you for sharing your martial combat wisdom my friend.
I love self-defense as well Carlson Gracie had people training hard, Gotcha ceiling fans with friends he let everybody in the mix. I started training on competitive way. The aggressive open guard rolls Carlson hi far have the greatest record in the family Do you want the way from helio?
In relation to previous video and my comment about martial art was originally not for civilians, think about it, even in ancient time martial art tournaments are not open for civilians, doesn't matter in the east or the west, it is only for warrior class, knight/samurai, nobles and the elites. Of course there are some exception where commoners could fight in the tournament, but it is rare. Since now it is open to civilians, there we got issues such as safety issues and so on. In ancient time, tournaments could lead to death, usually it is for honor, rank selection, ect. Tournaments in ancient time was not a sport, it is a live or die competition. Today it is a sport and business. Death and injuries in the ring is not a good business, so rules become stricter and training changed to prevent it. If this continue, martial art will not evolve, but devolved.
I agrée in many ways, Edo period started after the civil war and they started to compete and records of the late 1890s show the concern for safety, it doesn’t have to be a fight to the death however the old model where the priorities were split in a more fair way was better.
@@Chadi In ancient time, friendly competition between warriors of rival kingdoms could lead to death, for honor. In my country, the most famous warrior Hang Tuah (Melaka) defeat Taming Sari (Jawa) by killing him in a duel in front of the kings of both kingdom, during a marriage ceremony between Melaka King and Jawa Princess. This happen between 1456-77 AD. The result is Jawa king give Hang Tuah the Taming Sari weapon (a keris) which is become iconic and legend up to today. So, even a friendly competition to unite both kingdoms, it is a fight to death 😅 Sadly, no movies made since 1956 about this, because it is a sensitive issue between Malaysia and Indonesia, but this is a clip of the (imagined) event --> ua-cam.com/video/Mpbcj18r_kA/v-deo.html
Are you part of the warrior class? Because you train Silat many years and said before that you use it in fights and to stop criminals. If you're not in military warrior class but practice Silat then it's hard to take you serious.
@@SoldierDrew I am not seeking your approval and I don't live to impress you or anything. Either you read and understand what I am saying or just move on.
That's why old school judo was better, it had more emphasis on self offence than sport. Alot of the techniques that were usefull are now banned for silly reasons.
@@SoldierDrew it's still limited regardless as if you can't use techniques in competition aswell as the steet the art becomes limited. It's why judoka cross over into bjj, where they can use these techniques and not have any problem in the steet or in competition as they don't have limits put on them
@@SoldierDrewthe problem with that is the schools only prepare you for competition, they dont expect you to being capable of defend yourself, just want a medal
Only 78k have subscribed to this amazing channel. We have 50 million judokas around the world! Spread the word guys, this channel is awesome and well detailed when it comes to the history of judo ❤
There are some Gracie affiliate schools that have Judo as part of the curriculum. In the Ribeiro’s schools( Saulo Ribiero- he was a Judo Black belt before training in Jujitsu and wrote Jujitsu university) they believe Judo and Jujitsu are wings of the same bird. In Kama Jujitsu schools, they have kids judo clubs that compete.
Becoming an Olympic sport had the unexpected effect of making Judo less popular. Until 1964, Judo was a cool self-defense system used by James Bond and other movie and TV heroes. When it was marketed as a sport, Judo started shrinking in the US.
the gi worn in the first clip is strikingly similar to the Chinese wrestling jacket. The sleaves end above the elbow. Modern gi are much longer. It would be fascinating to see a video on the different gi over time in judo and the techniques that are applied using those gi. For example. grips of the wrists and forearms, techniques beginning from such grips and counters to grips and techniques can be profoundly different when applied to clothing to directly to the individual.
I started training in Kodokan Judo at nine . I'm now sevenity-two. Lots of falling, stemi, before learning throws. We didn't do alot of ground work.Very few joint locks were applied. When doing tandori with our Sensei it was more like a dance and then you would be on your back
Quando eu comecei a lutar Judô, 1978, podíamos dar até tesoura nas pernas; hoje, nem pegar nas pernas com as mãos se pode mais. Um dos meu golpes mais fortes era o Morote gari; hoje, não posso mais dá-lo; não gosto do Judô atual; há muitas regras e ficou feio e pobre.
Lo dices como algo muy general. No tiene sentido. Las reglas de las competiciones son así para resguardar a los competidores, pero nadie prohibe en los tatamis de cada dojo. Ademas de que con tanta informacion al alcanse de cualquiera, el q desconoce es porque quiere
@@sergiosapori los atemi waza están incluidos en los programas de estudio y examenes de grado en cualquier federación. Yosoy de argentina y están. Hay que quejarse menos y entrenar mas
Martial arts 🥋 such a beautiful array of the arts but most importantly it builds character and teaches to defend the weak become a better person of society and teaches you self defense.
Coincido : las artes marciales cada vez parecen más "deporte" que "ARTES MARCIALES" en la medida que se vuelven más "deportivas" y eso a la larga hará que se vayan perdiendo y olvidando un gran arsenal técnico de las mismas, es un mal negocio honestamente transformar en deporte a las artes marciales, eso terminara perjudicando más a los practicantes y a la larga de lo que son ARTES MARCIALES solo quedarán lejanos recuerdos.
It certainly seems more in line with Danzan-Ryu Jujutsu, which you have already covered in a prior video. Practicing Judo and Danzan-Ryu Jujutsu together are like two sides of the same coin. I had read that Seishiro Okazki, founder of Danzan-Ryu, believed in Judo training because the Judokas seemed to have a solid edge in throwing and in competitions,...but lacking in the self-defense aspect. Thank you for another great video. 🥋
Very much agree. There is a point for competition and randori but unless you are a high-level competitor Kata and self defence should be more than what I see most Dojos.
What a great video and images. In my humble opinion, too much emphasis has been placed on the sporting aspect and a multitude of art attributes have been left aside. I'm reading a very good book by Minuro, from 1950, "The Essence of Judo", a great work. Thanks for the video.
My Judo Club used to bring home national championships, AV JUDO, they were very good I didn't compete but I had very good ground game and long wind so they liked to put their star competitors against me to teach them how to compete against conditioning and skill Even though I had neither, just natural talent They drilled and sparred equal portions, that would be two thirds of the class, the other third was conditioning and instruction
Chadi I agree with your assessment regarding emphasis on sports rather than self-defense. However as long as we have individuals like you, we will always have access to information on the art. Once again thank you for sharing your expertise and combat wisdom!
It is fun to see very similar moves to what you find in aikido. Not exactly the same, but very close. So if you train judo and aikido, you would probably be able to make moves similar to those guys in the early days.
It was! I have the book Judo on the ground (Oda Method) by EJ Harrison! Judo went from the crème de la creme of Grappling arts to the state of it today! All thanks to the IJF and IOC who destroyed the art of Judo! Turning it from an art to a sport!
Everything that works is SPORT...Judo, BJJ, Wrestler, they only work because they are sports... If Judas hadn't become a sport, it would have become fake martial art, like most of the arts of his generation. Now when it becomes a high level sport, it is difficult to maintain ALL DIMENSIONS, That's why BJJ lost strikes and takedowns, and Judo lost newaza... Judi also lost the double and single leg, so as not to become a wrestler, Judo is Jujutsu, just like BJJ, they are Jujutsu logic, which is the opposite logic to that of the wrestler... And Judo was losing this logic and becoming a Western wrestler, losing the levers, That's why some dimensions were banned...either it is preserved or destroyed... everything has a gain and a loss...
@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 list the martial arts that is not a sport that is superior to the sports versions of the same fight dimensions (dimensions: striker, grappler, wrestler)
I took judo in the early to late 1970's. My sensei (Tony Finchen) was Kodokan trained. This video reminds me how we trained. His good friend (Eiko Saito Shepherd) was (and is) world renowned in kata.
Regarding the 1912 demonstration video, I’ve seen Japanese jiujitsu practitioners call that randori. Uke attacks tori with a random attack and tori defends with whatever comes to mind. I agree with you that it’s more kata, though, as uke isn’t resisting.
@@Chadi Also could you compare throws and submissions from Kaze no Ryu/Ogawa-ryu to those from Judo, Daito-ryu and Aikido. It's a koryu Jujutsu and Aikijujutsu style that has a you tube channel. Another possible comparison is how Danzan-ryu differers from Judo? www.youtube.com/@KazenoRyu
@@Chadi You could also compare throws and submissions from Goshin Jujitsu. ua-cam.com/video/k03t-Er9BnU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/AGqvlp9P6Jk/v-deo.html
Im a brown belt in Bjj and i appreciate this your channel very much. I trained under Professor Ricardo Almeida while I was stationed in new jersey and he maintained the practice of teaching self defense. I still teach the techniques and express to my students that BJJ is a martial art first and foremost and we shouldn't forsake it for the sporting aspects.
When I started Judo as a child in the late 1970s and early 1980s our training sessions (from a former RAF instructor) consisted of randori, throwing technique, newaza and applied self defence drills. We were recommended to read Kudo's red and green 'Judo in Action' books for technique study - I still have my copies.
Sounds like my old aikido class
No uchi komi drills to cultivate kuzushi?
Thank you Chadi for sharing the rich history of Classical Judo! You stated the facts so eloquently. It is for reason that can not add to what stated. Once again thank you for sharing your martial combat wisdom my friend.
I think when Marius Vizer steps down there will be more changes to Judo and we may see some old techniques reintroduced.
I love self-defense as well Carlson Gracie had people training hard,
Gotcha ceiling fans with friends he let everybody in the mix. I started training on competitive way.
The aggressive open guard rolls
Carlson hi far have the greatest record in the family
Do you want the way from helio?
Rest in peace Rufino Dos Santos.
The only more rich combat sport/discipline is Japanese Jujitsu ❤
In relation to previous video and my comment about martial art was originally not for civilians, think about it, even in ancient time martial art tournaments are not open for civilians, doesn't matter in the east or the west, it is only for warrior class, knight/samurai, nobles and the elites. Of course there are some exception where commoners could fight in the tournament, but it is rare. Since now it is open to civilians, there we got issues such as safety issues and so on. In ancient time, tournaments could lead to death, usually it is for honor, rank selection, ect. Tournaments in ancient time was not a sport, it is a live or die competition. Today it is a sport and business. Death and injuries in the ring is not a good business, so rules become stricter and training changed to prevent it. If this continue, martial art will not evolve, but devolved.
I agrée in many ways, Edo period started after the civil war and they started to compete and records of the late 1890s show the concern for safety, it doesn’t have to be a fight to the death however the old model where the priorities were split in a more fair way was better.
@@Chadi In ancient time, friendly competition between warriors of rival kingdoms could lead to death, for honor. In my country, the most famous warrior Hang Tuah (Melaka) defeat Taming Sari (Jawa) by killing him in a duel in front of the kings of both kingdom, during a marriage ceremony between Melaka King and Jawa Princess. This happen between 1456-77 AD. The result is Jawa king give Hang Tuah the Taming Sari weapon (a keris) which is become iconic and legend up to today.
So, even a friendly competition to unite both kingdoms, it is a fight to death 😅
Sadly, no movies made since 1956 about this, because it is a sensitive issue between Malaysia and Indonesia, but this is a clip of the (imagined) event --> ua-cam.com/video/Mpbcj18r_kA/v-deo.html
Are you part of the warrior class?
Because you train Silat many years and said before that you use it in fights and to stop criminals.
If you're not in military warrior class but practice Silat then it's hard to take you serious.
@@SoldierDrew I am not seeking your approval and I don't live to impress you or anything. Either you read and understand what I am saying or just move on.
That's why old school judo was better, it had more emphasis on self offence than sport. Alot of the techniques that were usefull are now banned for silly reasons.
It's only banned in competitions. Not in training.
@@SoldierDrew it's still limited regardless as if you can't use techniques in competition aswell as the steet the art becomes limited. It's why judoka cross over into bjj, where they can use these techniques and not have any problem in the steet or in competition as they don't have limits put on them
@@SoldierDrewthe problem with that is the schools only prepare you for competition, they dont expect you to being capable of defend yourself, just want a medal
Only 78k have subscribed to this amazing channel. We have 50 million judokas around the world! Spread the word guys, this channel is awesome and well detailed when it comes to the history of judo ❤
Thank you 🙏🏻🙇🏻♂️
that means .71% of a 7 billion population. Pretty good to be able to handle oneself better than 99.29% of the population i'll say
There are some Gracie affiliate schools that have Judo as part of the curriculum. In the Ribeiro’s schools( Saulo Ribiero- he was a Judo Black belt before training in Jujitsu and wrote Jujitsu university) they believe Judo and Jujitsu are wings of the same bird.
In Kama Jujitsu schools, they have kids judo clubs that compete.
Becoming an Olympic sport had the unexpected effect of making Judo less popular. Until 1964, Judo was a cool self-defense system used by James Bond and other movie and TV heroes. When it was marketed as a sport, Judo started shrinking in the US.
Agreed
I dont think so , i think the olympics made a famous and popular, but no point of arguing its just my opinion.
the gi worn in the first clip is strikingly similar to the Chinese wrestling jacket. The sleaves end above the elbow. Modern gi are much longer. It would be fascinating to see a video on the different gi over time in judo and the techniques that are applied using those gi. For example. grips of the wrists and forearms, techniques beginning from such grips and counters to grips and techniques can be profoundly different when applied to clothing to directly to the individual.
The old gi prevents wrist and ankle injuries, too
I started training in Kodokan Judo at nine . I'm now sevenity-two. Lots of falling, stemi, before learning throws. We didn't do alot of ground work.Very few joint locks were applied. When doing tandori with our Sensei it was more like a dance and then you would be on your back
Quando eu comecei a lutar Judô, 1978, podíamos dar até tesoura nas pernas; hoje, nem pegar nas pernas com as mãos se pode mais.
Um dos meu golpes mais fortes era o Morote gari; hoje, não posso mais dá-lo; não gosto do Judô atual; há muitas regras e ficou feio e pobre.
Novos praticantes nem sabem o que é atemi waza.
Lo dices como algo muy general. No tiene sentido. Las reglas de las competiciones son así para resguardar a los competidores, pero nadie prohibe en los tatamis de cada dojo. Ademas de que con tanta informacion al alcanse de cualquiera, el q desconoce es porque quiere
@@sergiosapori los atemi waza están incluidos en los programas de estudio y examenes de grado en cualquier federación. Yosoy de argentina y están. Hay que quejarse menos y entrenar mas
Martial arts 🥋 such a beautiful array of the arts but most importantly it builds character and teaches to defend the weak become a better person of society and teaches you self defense.
Coincido : las artes marciales cada vez parecen más "deporte" que "ARTES MARCIALES" en la medida que se vuelven más "deportivas" y eso a la larga hará que se vayan perdiendo y olvidando un gran arsenal técnico de las mismas, es un mal negocio honestamente transformar en deporte a las artes marciales, eso terminara perjudicando más a los practicantes y a la larga de lo que son ARTES MARCIALES solo quedarán lejanos recuerdos.
It certainly seems more in line with Danzan-Ryu Jujutsu, which you have already covered in a prior video.
Practicing Judo and Danzan-Ryu Jujutsu together are like two sides of the same coin.
I had read that Seishiro Okazki, founder of Danzan-Ryu, believed in Judo training because the Judokas seemed to have a solid edge in throwing and in competitions,...but lacking in the self-defense aspect.
Thank you for another great video. 🥋
Very much agree. There is a point for competition and randori but unless you are a high-level competitor Kata and self defence should be more than what I see most Dojos.
What a great video and images. In my humble opinion, too much emphasis has been placed on the sporting aspect and a multitude of art attributes have been left aside. I'm reading a very good book by Minuro, from 1950, "The Essence of Judo", a great work. Thanks for the video.
My Judo Club used to bring home national championships, AV JUDO, they were very good
I didn't compete but I had very good ground game and long wind so they liked to put their star competitors against me to teach them how to compete against conditioning and skill
Even though I had neither, just natural talent
They drilled and sparred equal portions, that would be two thirds of the class, the other third was conditioning and instruction
Chadi I agree with your assessment regarding emphasis on sports rather than self-defense. However as long as we have individuals like you, we will always have access to information on the art. Once again thank you for sharing your expertise and combat wisdom!
It is fun to see very similar moves to what you find in aikido. Not exactly the same, but very close.
So if you train judo and aikido, you would probably be able to make moves similar to those guys in the early days.
Even Eskrima of the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) are heavily influenced by judo.
any non lethal competition is sport. in archery and shooting we don't aim at one another. still deadly though
It was! I have the book Judo on the ground (Oda Method) by EJ Harrison! Judo went from the crème de la creme of Grappling arts to the state of it today!
All thanks to the IJF and IOC who destroyed the art of Judo! Turning it from an art to a sport!
Everything that works is SPORT...Judo, BJJ, Wrestler, they only work because they are sports...
If Judas hadn't become a sport, it would have become fake martial art, like most of the arts of his generation.
Now when it becomes a high level sport, it is difficult to maintain ALL DIMENSIONS, That's why BJJ lost strikes and takedowns, and Judo lost newaza...
Judi also lost the double and single leg, so as not to become a wrestler, Judo is Jujutsu, just like BJJ, they are Jujutsu logic, which is the opposite logic to that of the wrestler...
And Judo was losing this logic and becoming a Western wrestler, losing the levers, That's why some dimensions were banned...either it is preserved or destroyed... everything has a gain and a loss...
@@PauloSilvaX Judo is a martial art that's what Kano's vision was! But they turned it into a sport and then watered it down some more!
@@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 list the martial arts that is not a sport that is superior to the sports versions of the same fight dimensions (dimensions: striker, grappler, wrestler)
I took judo in the early to late 1970's. My sensei (Tony Finchen) was Kodokan trained. This video reminds me how we trained. His good friend (Eiko Saito Shepherd) was (and is) world renowned in kata.
Ur hella funny Chuddy
Di tecnica e ben poca
Shits dope shutti
Thanks for the History lesson
Do you think that BJJ and even MMA is taking over the popularity of Juso in competition except are the Oympics.
I would love to see choreographed self defense routines as part of competitions, so entertaining. 90seconds, go!
Regarding the 1912 demonstration video, I’ve seen Japanese jiujitsu practitioners call that randori. Uke attacks tori with a random attack and tori defends with whatever comes to mind. I agree with you that it’s more kata, though, as uke isn’t resisting.
Love this video footage Chadi. Great work again.
That judo / ju jitsu guy at 9:52 got his ass kicked so hard by the capoera guy... lol
Gracie jiu jitsu was Judo with more newaza
Thank you Chadi. Good documentary.
Thank you so much for your support 🙇🏻♂️
@@Chadi Also could you compare throws and submissions from Kaze no Ryu/Ogawa-ryu to those from Judo, Daito-ryu and Aikido. It's a koryu Jujutsu and Aikijujutsu style that has a you tube channel. Another possible comparison is how Danzan-ryu differers from Judo?
www.youtube.com/@KazenoRyu
@@Chadi You could also compare throws and submissions from Goshin Jujitsu. ua-cam.com/video/k03t-Er9BnU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/AGqvlp9P6Jk/v-deo.html
Judo dance! Very similar to karate kata😅
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support
後半部分はエリオとヒクソン!?
はい
Where's that fight footage at the end from?
It’s available on UA-cam, 1980s vale tudo