This was one of my favorite videos for a couple reasons. First, I love how the Nuzlocke rules make each battle affect the next one, so it’s basically impossible for any of the battles to play out too similarly. Second, I love the multiple appearances of Leo in this video.
38:18 "But even if u were, this was unburdened" "ohhh, i am f*cked" that was pure gold tbh and for the fked not to be censored was just the cherry on top 😂 And love and cuddles for Leo 💕💕
This definitely seems like a concept that can be repeated down the line without getting repetitive. Just make sure Vinny actually randomizes his game if you bring him on… 😂
I mean if you want to win it'd be better if he didn't right? Then he can't get any of the Legendaries, and most of the routes will have low-tier common pokes. 😁
This is such a phenomenal format. I would love for there to be a read off of what each person caught so that there can be some extra spicy shenanigans kinda like a draft league but just for a best of 3.
Since it comes up in almost every video, let me tell you something about box art legendaries: They are NOT all easy to catch. Most of them only are in their original games or maybe one generation after that and then their catch rate is lowered in later games. For example Dialga and Palkia originally had a catch rate of 30, but it's been 3 ever since ORAS. In SV, every box art legendary has a catch rate of 3 (even Koraidon and Miraidon) with the exception of Zacian and Zamazenta (who have 10, which is still not that high). And technically Xerneas and Yveltal still have a catch rate of 45, but they're not in the game. If they were, they probably would have their catch rate reduced to 3, because the same thing happened to Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma in SV.
But this isn't Sw/Sh This is Sca/Vi And according to both Pokemon Database and Bulbapedia, Poliwrath does *NOT* learn it in this generation - Does not learn TR 093 Darkest Lariat Tldr, Cheaterz
@@jimmyh2137 Some random comment from 2 years ago says the movesets change if you port them through home or bank etc As I have no interest to verify it, just going to quote that comment and leave it at that (So no, you might be able to transfer the mon, but you still can't transfer the move - it's still not legal)
Been watching all of ya'll forever and have always LOVED Nuzlockes. Seeing them mesh into a "Then We Fight Format"... Cinema. Also like having regular abilities since it fits better with standard Nuzlockes.
This is a cool idea! I'd love to see more of these style of videos. Bridges the gap between nuzlock & then we fights. Kinda like a cagelock finale all in one video!
I liked this concept. Usually when there's more than one battle in a video I'll watch the first and then play the rest as background noise because it's always the same pokemon battling. I actually watched all three battles in this video and they were so much fun.
Here's the new idea: 1. Randomly generate 3 starter pokemon each 2. Choose one pokemon starter (i.e. left, middle, right) to fight with their typing against opponent starter choice (you are not revealing the pokemon, just the type and only AFTER both of you lock in left, middle or right) 3. Whoever loses the type match up faints and cannot be picked for battle (in case of a draw, both pokemon faints and cannot be chosen) 4. Do it with all 3 starters (you only consider types (both types matter so if it's water/dragon it is weak to dragon and fairy (freeze dry doesn't count because it's a move not a type))) and i repeat: you are not telling eachother what the pokemon was. 5. Once the "type battle" is over you can pick from whatever remains not fainted. 6. If you happen to win all 3 type matchups you will blindly choose for the opponent their starter (by that time you will know their types). 7. After 6 rounds you battle for real Note: if it's a draw 3 times during one round - both of you have to reset starter choices. That's about it, have fun p.s. If you want to make things more spicy make abilities randomized and if you win all 3 type match ups you can choose the ability you want for your pokemon in that round.
Hey Patterrz! Just wanted to make sure Leo got those treats Banana and I bought him during your stream, especially after all his hard work as a back-end developer. He must be famished after all that coding!
Love your videos Pat! I always get really excited to see who you collab with and look up to you guys all the time! Hope you keep creating more dope content! 😄
I think this is a really good format, and it adds a good twist to battles within themselves since you’re playing to preserve things even when they’re no longer of any use in that particular battle
Fun fact! In Scarvi, if you have a pokemon registered as caught in the pokedex, it will always be a critical capture when you catch it. So if it's not a critical capture, it will always break out. So for that iron boulder at the end, Shady could have known the catch would fail as soon as it wasnt a crit capture.
Love how everybody missed that shady’s Zacian is an illegal encounter. Since he already got the alolan muk at Casseroya Lake🤣 5:33 and 8:44 I know it can happen for everybody especially in these open world games
this is honestly really interesting because barring some obscene get where only one person gets anything good, just getting a really strong starter isn't enough, everything around it will likely crumble and make the team as a whole weaker in the next fight.
I have no idea how it happened, but I wound up as being in the 0.5% of your viewers for watch time this year. Thanks for constantly making amazing content man, love you!
Great idea! Having to improvise on the fly certainly added a new element to the fights. Only thing I'd also like to see is that this goes until one person loses all their pokemon. Then there's some real incentive to maximize catches during the opening.
This imo is the best then we fight formula, the changing in teams each Pokémon for a logical reason has me watching all 3 battles when I hate to be that guy but (adhd) I usually take the first battle as the result, but having it nuzlocke style changes the context and makes it feel like the final battle winner is the actual winner rather than the first battle winner
Might be a bit long to play out, but if you had a Nuzlocke tournament/ round robin style format where four of you catch Pokémon and then keep battling until only one of you still has Pokémon alive. That would be very entertaining to watch.😊
Hi editor! I dont know what happens behind the scenes or why it"s very minimal this episode or you're trying something new, but I would just like to say the old format of the POVs switching randomly I would say just flows so much better, and helps the watchability of the vid. It also helps cause both of our guys are not mirrored, so they don't look off. Still a good vid, but the singular focus on the past videos had made it much more fun for me. Ciao!
(Long Comment) When I was getting back into VGC when this game came out I was throwing out an idea to my friends where you fill a box with the nuzlock encounter rules and do a bo3 or bo5 fight with it but if a mon faints during the fight its dead. Called it NGC or nuzlock game champion ship rules. Lot of effort for it but it did sound fun. Not saying you guys should do that but watching this video reminded me of that. Loved the videos thoe keep up the great work.
While this might not be the best then we fight video out there, it was sure as hell the best comeback in then we fight history! (The video and concept is great, i just not sure i can call it the best one) Props to Shady!
For next then we fight video use metronome to choose Pokemon if your random encounter die you can't catch it, only 1 Master ball after using metronome. You have to first use metronome.
Oh great patters, playboy extraordinaire, collector of the finest gems, known to mankind. Let me be one of the people to tell you that this was a masterpiece. Honestly impressive. Truly a spectacle.
Omg now I want to see you do a Tourney of this were y'all draft 30-40 or so odd eggs and do it with Nuzlocke rules. or a best of 3 2 v 2 doubles with rotating partners. even better with fusion eggs xD
Then we fight suggestion: You and your opponent both find 6 pokemon and have to bargain with each other on the 'Final 6', the Final 6 are the pokemon you will BOTH use against each other so the teams have the exact same pokemon, it is up to you and your opponent to choose abiilities/items/teras
A few things. Pat is a discipline daddy?!?!??!!?!??! Also regarding the Scarvi nuzlock you can mod it so the overworld mons are hidden and you dont know what it is till the battle starts making it a way to not cheat. I know people have done overworld eggs but i think the best way to do it for the CONTENT is mod the 3d missingno thats been made as the overworld mons.
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This was one of my favorite videos for a couple reasons.
First, I love how the Nuzlocke rules make each battle affect the next one, so it’s basically impossible for any of the battles to play out too similarly.
Second, I love the multiple appearances of Leo in this video.
Yo I just like it because of the underdog victory
But yeah that was sick
Groundon- a tera ground Groudon, which when terastrallized, puts the "ground on" Groudon's head. Absolutely brilliant by Shady
I think this is my favourite “Then we fight” challenge concept!! Hope you do this more. It made that best 2 of 3 battle so much fun!
Pats cam being mirrored is throwing me off so much
why do they do tha- oh it's probably so they can "face" each other
Shady is also mirrored. Bothers me more than pat.
I was wondering why the video felt off for some reason 😅
I've been losing my mind, only 5 minutes in to.
38:18 "But even if u were, this was unburdened" "ohhh, i am f*cked" that was pure gold tbh and for the fked not to be censored was just the cherry on top 😂
And love and cuddles for Leo 💕💕
This definitely seems like a concept that can be repeated down the line without getting repetitive.
Just make sure Vinny actually randomizes his game if you bring him on… 😂
I mean if you want to win it'd be better if he didn't right? Then he can't get any of the Legendaries, and most of the routes will have low-tier common pokes. 😁
@@MunchKING
I mean they can do a randomizer excluding legendaries
This is such a phenomenal format. I would love for there to be a read off of what each person caught so that there can be some extra spicy shenanigans kinda like a draft league but just for a best of 3.
The way Leo feautures in the ads makes me wanna watch every single one of them forever
Since it comes up in almost every video, let me tell you something about box art legendaries: They are NOT all easy to catch. Most of them only are in their original games or maybe one generation after that and then their catch rate is lowered in later games. For example Dialga and Palkia originally had a catch rate of 30, but it's been 3 ever since ORAS.
In SV, every box art legendary has a catch rate of 3 (even Koraidon and Miraidon) with the exception of Zacian and Zamazenta (who have 10, which is still not that high). And technically Xerneas and Yveltal still have a catch rate of 45, but they're not in the game. If they were, they probably would have their catch rate reduced to 3, because the same thing happened to Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma in SV.
Someone give this man a scene to address the crowds and speak the truth!
Apparently Dakest Lariat was a TR in Sword and Shield and that is how Poliwrath can learn it.
But this isn't Sw/Sh
This is Sca/Vi
And according to both Pokemon Database and Bulbapedia, Poliwrath does *NOT* learn it in this generation - Does not learn TR 093 Darkest Lariat
Tldr, Cheaterz
@@PJOZeus You can teach it in SnS and transfer via Bank
@@jimmyh2137 Some random comment from 2 years ago says the movesets change if you port them through home or bank etc
As I have no interest to verify it, just going to quote that comment and leave it at that
(So no, you might be able to transfer the mon, but you still can't transfer the move - it's still not legal)
@@PJOZeus AFAIK only some moves change. Some specific moves. Deleted moves (they don't exist at all in the "new" game), stuff like that.
@@PJOZeusInstead of "Source: I made it up", it's "Source: Someone else made it up".
Been watching all of ya'll forever and have always LOVED Nuzlockes. Seeing them mesh into a "Then We Fight Format"... Cinema. Also like having regular abilities since it fits better with standard Nuzlockes.
Funnily enough it's literally impossible to freeze a Pokemon in the harsh sunlight
Shamir the Sneasler making its long-awaited return appearance alongside Shady was the most exciting part 🤩
6:43 "they're just like birds they're not real" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a cool idea! I'd love to see more of these style of videos. Bridges the gap between nuzlock & then we fights.
Kinda like a cagelock finale all in one video!
Jokes on you, AI Patterrz would 100% advertise gamersupps. We trained him on your videos!
We spliced in some of Vinny's Gamersupps adds for variety.
I am secretly hoping we get a moustache glitch in an ad read
Loved this format really adds spice and weight to each battle.
11 days ago is crazy LMAO bro had this in the backlog
I liked this concept. Usually when there's more than one battle in a video I'll watch the first and then play the rest as background noise because it's always the same pokemon battling. I actually watched all three battles in this video and they were so much fun.
I absolutely love the conversation happening during the catch section
Here's the new idea:
1. Randomly generate 3 starter pokemon each
2. Choose one pokemon starter (i.e. left, middle, right) to fight with their typing against opponent starter choice (you are not revealing the pokemon, just the type and only AFTER both of you lock in left, middle or right)
3. Whoever loses the type match up faints and cannot be picked for battle (in case of a draw, both pokemon faints and cannot be chosen)
4. Do it with all 3 starters (you only consider types (both types matter so if it's water/dragon it is weak to dragon and fairy (freeze dry doesn't count because it's a move not a type))) and i repeat: you are not telling eachother what the pokemon was.
5. Once the "type battle" is over you can pick from whatever remains not fainted.
6. If you happen to win all 3 type matchups you will blindly choose for the opponent their starter (by that time you will know their types).
7. After 6 rounds you battle for real
Note: if it's a draw 3 times during one round - both of you have to reset starter choices.
That's about it, have fun
p.s. If you want to make things more spicy make abilities randomized and if you win all 3 type match ups you can choose the ability you want for your pokemon in that round.
Hey Patterrz! Just wanted to make sure Leo got those treats Banana and I bought him during your stream, especially after all his hard work as a back-end developer. He must be famished after all that coding!
he will!
Love your videos Pat! I always get really excited to see who you collab with and look up to you guys all the time! Hope you keep creating more dope content! 😄
Shady has a good boi. Fidough might not be as strong but it's better than Kyurem where it counts. In the heart.
I think this is a really good format, and it adds a good twist to battles within themselves since you’re playing to preserve things even when they’re no longer of any use in that particular battle
38:20 The delivery on that was hilarious, that or im easily entertained by funni words
One of the best youtubers that I will always watch.
thank you :D
Phenomenal format, definitely bring this back
This is absolutely my favorite format for “Then We Fights”
this was a great battle as always, props to pat for such a fire idea, and props to shady for winning with his box
Please do this again it’s a fun mix that is just so sweet and fits your content the best!
Thanks for the gifted sub. Patterz your the best!
:D
Fun fact! In Scarvi, if you have a pokemon registered as caught in the pokedex, it will always be a critical capture when you catch it. So if it's not a critical capture, it will always break out. So for that iron boulder at the end, Shady could have known the catch would fail as soon as it wasnt a crit capture.
Love how everybody missed that shady’s Zacian is an illegal encounter. Since he already got the alolan muk at Casseroya Lake🤣 5:33 and 8:44
I know it can happen for everybody especially in these open world games
this is honestly really interesting because barring some obscene get where only one person gets anything good, just getting a really strong starter isn't enough, everything around it will likely crumble and make the team as a whole weaker in the next fight.
8:23
Oh, I've dealt with the Metagross line too many times so knew exactly what's coming.
That was masterfully played by shady, well done for both of you, ggs
I love this idea. Mainly the idea that you lose the Pokémon for the next fight if it dies.
This concept was so amazing, I love it so much, and it was soooooooooo funny ! I really hope that you're gonna do it again ^^
Really enjoyed this concept for “Nuzlocke Then We Fights” more please 😊
24:01 this kinda scared me ngl
I have no idea how it happened, but I wound up as being in the 0.5% of your viewers for watch time this year. Thanks for constantly making amazing content man, love you!
NICE!!
Great video idea Pat! Shady was perfect as the opponent as well.
Great idea! Having to improvise on the fly certainly added a new element to the fights. Only thing I'd also like to see is that this goes until one person loses all their pokemon. Then there's some real incentive to maximize catches during the opening.
0:46 I don’t believe you Pat!!
I've been waiting for a challenge like this for forever!
got gifted a membership and now I get to watch this early, happiest person rn
This imo is the best then we fight formula, the changing in teams each Pokémon for a logical reason has me watching all 3 battles when I hate to be that guy but (adhd) I usually take the first battle as the result, but having it nuzlocke style changes the context and makes it feel like the final battle winner is the actual winner rather than the first battle winner
Might be a bit long to play out, but if you had a Nuzlocke tournament/ round robin style format where four of you catch Pokémon and then keep battling until only one of you still has Pokémon alive.
That would be very entertaining to watch.😊
Finally a member!
WAHOOOOO
dodging failed
Shady cooked with that last batch of nicknames 😂
6:43 Well someone is ready for the purge
Hi editor! I dont know what happens behind the scenes or why it"s very minimal this episode or you're trying something new, but I would just like to say the old format of the POVs switching randomly I would say just flows so much better, and helps the watchability of the vid. It also helps cause both of our guys are not mirrored, so they don't look off. Still a good vid, but the singular focus on the past videos had made it much more fun for me. Ciao!
Best of 5 would be so much fun on this format
Pat has figured out how to maintain retention during his sponsor segments: his cat.
(Long Comment) When I was getting back into VGC when this game came out I was throwing out an idea to my friends where you fill a box with the nuzlock encounter rules and do a bo3 or bo5 fight with it but if a mon faints during the fight its dead. Called it NGC or nuzlock game champion ship rules. Lot of effort for it but it did sound fun. Not saying you guys should do that but watching this video reminded me of that. Loved the videos thoe keep up the great work.
While this might not be the best then we fight video out there, it was sure as hell the best comeback in then we fight history!
(The video and concept is great, i just not sure i can call it the best one)
Props to Shady!
when shady was baby and ran he fell and made the dent in his head! xD
It was dope hearing you in spiffing bits stream. I knew you liked skyrim with your pokemon names but I didn't know you liked it that much. Much love.
Great vid concept, love you got shady and not some bum
If that Sneasler didn't have Unburden, then Sneasler and Inteleon would've Speed tied.
As an aspiring coder definitely gonna check out the sponsor after this.
For next then we fight video use metronome to choose Pokemon if your random encounter die you can't catch it, only 1 Master ball after using metronome. You have to first use metronome.
Pat i actually love this idea plz do it again‼️
I usually skip most sponsored segments, but I had to see the cute kitty.
Hey Pat,
Love this idea, wouldn’t mind seeing it again or even other catching type set-up videos!
I'm not into Nuzlock but I liked the dynamics of the video
Nuzlocke TWF is such a great idea and I really hope it makes more appearances between you guys
This is a great idea that ife wanted to see for ages
1:10 just a Wo-Chien casually falling out of the sky?!?!
One of the best then we fight, i have seen. Patterz plz give us more and TAKE my like
I love how they are mirroed torwards each other
Absolutely loved this idea. Video was awesome
Thank you so much 🤗
Oh great patters, playboy extraordinaire, collector of the finest gems, known to mankind. Let me be one of the people to tell you that this was a masterpiece. Honestly impressive. Truly a spectacle.
no way he actually told us how to do randomizers. W PAT ❤
Wow, so cool of patterrz to promise 5000 subs to shady
Bro, the idea of this video......... some genius shit, not gonna lie.
21:43 yeah, but only in sword and shield by TR
Loved the nuzlocke concept!
Honestly Leo should be in more ad reads. he's great at it.
“I’m having a stroke on cam right now” - top 10 out of context quotes
Love this concept! Need to do this again :)
I went from watching patterrz back when I was in middle school playing pokemon/digimon dark rising nuzlocke to his new nuzlocke pick your starters
No entry hazards does deserve a clap hopefully Tobin watches this and learns
Anyone else notice shady brought the metagross even though it wound up knocking itself out 😂
We need more of this. The forced variety in battle was great.
11:45 the AI hand 😂🤣😂🤣
25:35 Quagsire BUILT DIFFERENT!
This must have taken so much time and it was worth it
Omg now I want to see you do a Tourney of this were y'all draft 30-40 or so odd eggs and do it with Nuzlocke rules. or a best of 3 2 v 2 doubles with rotating partners. even better with fusion eggs xD
I love your then we fight ideas so much!
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Oh man. Do this video again, i loved it. But next time, battle until one person runs out of pokemon. Last person with mons wins
The AI hand on Regice was perfect.
Now Patt know Poliwrath can learn Darkest Lariat lol
Super fun idea!! Loved it!
the leo cameo's are very appreciated
Then we fight suggestion: You and your opponent both find 6 pokemon and have to bargain with each other on the 'Final 6', the Final 6 are the pokemon you will BOTH use against each other so the teams have the exact same pokemon, it is up to you and your opponent to choose abiilities/items/teras
A few things. Pat is a discipline daddy?!?!??!!?!??!
Also regarding the Scarvi nuzlock you can mod it so the overworld mons are hidden and you dont know what it is till the battle starts making it a way to not cheat. I know people have done overworld eggs but i think the best way to do it for the CONTENT is mod the 3d missingno thats been made as the overworld mons.