How to Install Fiber-Cement Siding | This Old House
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Installing time-saving shingles with This Old House general contractor Tom Silva. (See below for a shopping list and tools.)
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Shopping List for Installing Fiber-Cement Siding:
fiber-cement shingle siding [amzn.to/2LxSXhc]
aluminum Z-channel flashing [amzn.to/2LST7hN]
1 1/4-inch roofing nails [amzn.to/300jbkh]
wood lath [amzn.to/2O1IcW2], for bumping out the first siding course
exterior-grade caulk [amzn.to/2LtE4MO]
fiber-cement clapboard siding [amzn.to/2ZY8zDw], used as a filler strip
1 3/4-inch roofing nails [amzn.to/300bf2u]
1 1/2-inch stainless steel nails [amzn.to/2ZX6ff5]
acrylic latex exterior-grade paint [amzn.to/2ZXG74p]
Tools for Installing Fiber-Cement Siding:
tape measure [amzn.to/32vuIWg]
chalk reel [amzn.to/31ch9eb]
layout square [amzn.to/30byLpr]
utility knife [amzn.to/31dHcSq]
hammer [amzn.to/32FNivf]
circular saw [amzn.to/2zWYuY0]
caulk gun [amzn.to/2Lorz4S]
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How to Install Fiber-Cement Siding | This Old House
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Tom Silva mot only is totally awesome at everything he does, he is such a great teacher and communicator
got a small job and this video just saved me 20 bucks on a fiber cement blade by revealing it is possible to cut by double scoring with a box cutter.
Tom and norm are the greatest
I like how Tom in another video covered all of the different power tools for cutting the "sment" siding, but left out the dust free, faster than all of the others utility knife double-score...
They make a guillotine cutter too.
The whole reason I clicked on this video was for tom to say "sment" lol
LOL
next, he's gonna go up on the ruff.
@@13612 Only if it's not too windy down bah the hahbah!
I like the word ‘sawr’!!
I can’t do any of this but something about seeing quality construction work fascinates me!
I lOve you’re channel!!
You dont use construction speak so its easy for me to use you as a DIY guide. Iam female and know nothing about construction but you’re videos have helped me put in windows, light sockets, siding, framing etc.
I appreciate you guys so much and so does my pocket book ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Got to love the weekend warrior homeowner doesn't know what he's doing but he sure to spend a lot of money on that tool belt system
gary rose While Tommy wears a $50 Home Depot belt. 😂
Tommy Silva did a top notch job installing the fiber-cement type clapboard-shake style siding on this outdoor shed. Looks pretty durable and almost as realistic as wood siding without the maintenance worries..
Roofing Companies CT I wouldn't hire you for roofing. The flashing was installed incorrectly.
Roofing Companies CT no primer and paint on the ends, no proper flashing. plus can you say "class action lawsuit"? these guys are teaching people to cut Hardie plank the way the manufacturer say NOT to. the dust is among the most hazardous out there and all you have to do is score and snap it. plus they're wearing dust mask not respirator. you all should learn how to build.... and read
You can cut the stuff with a circular saw, and the correct blade. Since the blade was spinning in this video, one cannot determine what blade is being used. Also, per the manufacturer's instructors, a NIOSH approved respirator is what is required. A quick search on Google of all places, show that what Tommy is wearing, is in fact, NIOSH approved.
www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/bd/bd36a5bf-9952-49a6-b7fb-26a677eb830d.pdf
Shut the fuck up.
If you're wearing a respirator is it okay to cut it like he did? I'm just curious since I don't know much about this stuff.
New sider crazy to see you putting them up with nails and a hammer
Better built than some people’s houses
That's a pretty serious tool belt for a home owner.
Interesting they didn’t use vertical strapping and attach the siding to the strapping to create an air gap to allow water to escape. Maybe it is because it is a tool shed.
Tommy nailed it again
I really enjoy this old channel thanks
Make sure to get as much permanent red chalk on the siding on every row to bleed thru for a super look
@ 6:33 that dude have tested his own hammer skills
Andrè Harlem- he struck the wrong nail
tom looked stoned at the end when he says "green it is!"
Norm really knows his business.
You built the shed, you pick the colour.
You must be single
Color.
@@micdiva How you not go with "You must be Shingle"
@L F read my bible? This isnt the 10th century
@@micdiva My thoughts exactly
Best material for back board to install behind Hardie planks CC TX
Love what this guy does I wish to be working with someone that knows everything lol!!
Homeowner: $500 occidental leather tool belt
Tom Silva: $20 Home Depot bags
And Tom wears it backwards, must be a back east thing
I love seeing that good old fashioned felt paper. You can't beat it. Question: do you need a "rainscreen" behind cement board siding?
No
Yes
Maybe?
It depends. [actually, HardieShingle does NOT require a rainscreen]
Tommy Kinda LaSorta
You are the best,tom
Not sure that little shed would really take that much time with real shingles.
Fire-proof and lasts forever!
Hardie board will last 50 years,and look great.
Great detail on the installation.
Nice looking shed
Cant complain too much if this is the material you want to use, (homeowner), but so much cheaper and faster and easier to use vinyl.
This is just a shed, so it probably doesn't matter too much. Also, some people just don't like vinyl.
"My wife likes green"
*Tom Silva stares him down*
"Yea, shes a bitch..."
*Tom Silva continues the stare down*
"Im the bitch"
I love this channel and all the great information it gives but UA-cam needs an accent option like a gps
this is the best siding video on youtube
I would say this is bad job, review of siding should be 7" as manufacturer say, even Tommy mentioned that then when put that on the wall he did @ 4" review, it doesn't make sense, also the flashing have to go behind WRB!
Is this stuff the same thing as Hardie plank? It looks like it. If so, that tip about scribing both sides of the product and just breaking is pretty cool. Save a lot of saw blades and I don't have to breath all that dust!
@C J Bowen you get mesothelioma from asbestos.you get silicosis from cement dust.
What color are you gonna paint it? -My wife wants green._-THEN GREEN IT IS! 😂
At the rate it took him to build the shed if he were doing the wood shingles like he wanted to, he'd still be working on it 8 years after the video came out.
Your Supposed to put the flashing behind the felt paper or house wrap
of course.. water now goes behind the flashing..
I see at 6:10 they have one piece up, but at 6:15 it's clear they didn't like what was going on and changed it.
A Lot of good information here,
I would tuck the top of the Z channel behind the paper.
I wonder what brand hammer Tommy is using? Anyone know where I can get one? It’s a real beauty.
Douglas and it is expensive!
Very nice job 👌
I’m surprised James Hardie hasn’t filed suit to make this old house call it hardie board.
So no need to secure the bottom of the siding?
Please use treated exterior wood do t h at bottom strip that kicks out the bottom course.
First piece of lath better if treated.
To much chalking work/maintenance.
Green it is
Guy chooses this over wood shingles cause it’s supposed to be less time consuming, but it takes them all day to get maybe half of one wall covered. How much time did he save??
"What color are you gonna paint it?"
"Well, my wife wants..."
Happy wife, happy life.
Thanks Tommy!
Why is that Tom?
My wife wants green this i will go with white
Can this be used in a mobile home?
Hello I am replacing the siding around my chimney. Current siding is wood and we are putting new fiber cement siding. Do I need to put any membrane between the siding and OSB wood for the chimney? I know any other outside wall requires a house wrap but I am not sure about the chimney.
Even with the starter strip on the bottom the tar paper was showing through the slots above the starter. Looked tacky.
We never use "red chalk" on exterior surfaces. Code !!
I'm despairing because I started to patch my existing shingles with fiber cement and I keep cracking the fiber cement, so now I have a huge gaping chunk of the corner of my house down to the tar paper. It's impossible to find help these days. I don't know where to begin. What I wouldn't give to work for TOH and learn how to be self-sufficient without putting the soundness of my house in jeopardy because I don't know what I'm doing.
Do you live in the Town of Hempstead, NY? I'll be right over to give you a hand. Let me know how you want to arrange it. This doesn't sound like a big deal.
I guess we aren’t discussing the exposed nail head in the key in the second course
Great video
If you face nail the shingles under the window do you cover the stainless steel nails with caulk and paint or?
paint pen...no need for caulk unless you're filling a void.
The homeowner is painting the shed green--so, it'll be covered with paint.
The bottom piece of flashing they installed at the 1:20 mark of the video is done incorrectly. Whether installing a drainage plane (siding attached directly to the building without an airspace between) or a rain screen (siding attached to cleats, nailers, vents, etal to create an airspace) you always "shingle"materials so that they overlap the material below. The z angle should have been installed with the upper leg BEHIND the building paper so that the paper overlapped the leg. Caulking the back of the z angle wouldn't be necessary in this manner of installation but couldn't hurt. Look at the Tyvek video on UA-cam on how to install windows. The mantra in the industry now - and has been since about 2008 - is overlap, overlap, overlap. If your building envelope is properly shingled and you used appropriate materials then the siding portion of your building envelope won't leak. As a byproduct of this installation, the building paper helps protect even a coated flashing from the chemical reaction of with cementitious materials. Also, the lath (starter strip in industry lingo) should be pressure treated or you can use a lengthwise cut section of the siding material. Nails should never be placed within an inch of the top (or bottom) of siding and never within one half inch of the ends.
Allen Stone I agree completely, you would also think that common sense would have some factor in lapping.. be a bead of water, where could I go!?;?
you must be worth millions lol
Aluminum rots? Or he mean deteriorates
Should of painted the siding before starting. Pain in the butt afterwards.
It's only a small shed; the siding will be painted in one day.
Lol, I can tell you have never installed pre painted siding before. Primed and installed, painted afterwards is ideal. I do this for a living.
@@jaymaxim8782 Hi. I currently have siding that needs replacing do you think Hardie Board ia a good choice? I currently have rotting wood, other option is vinyl.
If your wife wants it green, then she should have been out there building it and painting it herself.
I’m a DIY’er and far from a professional but isn’t the new standard to put a house wrap behind the siding?
yes. house wrap allows "brreathable" protection and is usually preferred but not required in all situations.
decreased exposure, but that's okay. Not painting the cuts will void warranty if JH branded, as well they have a impregnated nailing line above the tabs, not lower...which was done due to smaller exposure. Ringshank nails either stainless or galv are adequate...save the stainless for the face nailing and use galvanized on the non exposed....too much money to waste on bigger projects.
1 silly Q ? Can I use nail gun or if i use it , does it break that board 😊🙈😁thanks .
NICE WORK GUYS
Hey tommy, is it time consuming? 3 times in 25 seconds?
#thisoldhouse what do you do about the nail heads
Usually, Hardie is blind nailed [the siding above hides the nail head below]. For the face nailed, you just paint over the nail heads.
Nice.
Really? Water will rot cement? Also, just use PVC trim and there won't be any expansion and contraction there.
What is the cost for installing fiber cement siding for a 2000 sqft house?
Our 2500 square foot house cost over $40,000 for James Hardie fiber cement siding, trim, soffits, facia, sheathing repairs, etc. Labor was the biggest cost. It is not cheap...
Could you use a nail gun on a larger project with these without breaking them?
Took me a couple minutes to figure out what "sment" was.
Did you use 15 lb felt, or Grade D building paper under your siding
Look into synthetic underlayment vs tar paper. Tyvek/Titanium/Grace, many choices. These don't crinkle if they get wet from rain/heavy dew if you don't get done in a day. they don't tear either like tar paper easily does. Great if you are working by yourself.
We would us a z channel we broke from vinyl coil stock.
"Sment"
Tommy has a job to do. No time for superfluous vowels...
Pretty sure aluminum doesnt rot
Where do you buy the lath material? I've heard it called a cant piece before as well.
I can't find any pieces that are smaller than 3/4" depth
Gregg D you can just buy a piece of Hardie lap and rip it to 1 1/4 inch strips. The lap (8 1/4) also works really well as your first backer piece before the shake material is installed.
great. kinda in line with my thinking. Glad I wasn't going in the completely wrong direction
Still quicker than shingles. But what about the cost?
In my area, Fiber cement generally costs $3 to $4 per square foot. Cedar siding can run $5 to $7 per square foot.
Also keep in mind that the maintenance required with cedar siding adds thousands to the overall cost. You will need to paint or stain cedar siding every 3-5 years, and periodically repair or replace the shingles or panels.
That shingle is sure ugly...
But always fun to learn something new.
I agree
7” reveal?
Dont you know that you never use RED chalk line on a surface you are going to paint ? I remember many yrs ago on my first day of work i watched a contractor verbally destroyed an apprentice i presume for using red chalk line on drywall lmao poor kid he ended up getting fired. So js you can use it but with so many other colors available i avoid red at all cost ..
Thy look like christmas trees with their tool belts :-D He's using silicone caulk wich is non paintable ...
Julian Knödler the caulk he’s doing is hidden behind the board never to be seen or painted
Julian Knödler yes it can but it's not even showing,its as a glue thanks.
Its going to also trap water inbehind and water will get behind as he didnt water shed properly
-- snip -- removed something dumb I said years ago when I didn't know much about historic architectural styles.
Maybe they were left over from another project? Maybe they were on clearance sale? It's just a shed...
@@kenc2257 Oh jeez I forgot I made that comment. I barely knew anything about architecture history at that time. I've learned a lot since then including the prevalence of x-over-2 windows in New England architecture. I definitely don't think they're awkward now.
Mańkut
Muy lento ... Necesita herramienta adecuada .. !!
Lol green it is
para alguien k kiera aprender. mmmm no les recomiendo este viedeo... 😀
cmon over
Looking to buy siding from vendor to purchase in truckload quantities (12 ft boards) no more than $3.5 per
Thank You!
Um Tom. Aluminum doesn’t Rot it is called oxidizing. You also did not shingle lap the paper over the drip edge. You have zero credibility Tom.
If you ever want to burn it down for the insurance money give me a call......I’ll try to talk you out of it
So he nails on the studs and then ends a board there? Wtf. Hes gonna have nails showing in the keyways. So dumb!
he's trying to make it wicked strong by direct nailing into stud layout...the shiner factor can be taken care of with a paint pen a lot easier if done before next piece is shot....but no big deal...still easy to paint especially given this isn't colored and has to be painted anyway.
too much waste for the high price
bad way to install it, I don't know how they call themselfs professional installers you have to install 48,32,16 first row and 4th row you have to start again 48,32,16, also the piece behind your first panel have to at least 8 1/4 inches, also your nails have to be always on top of one of the lines of that way you never will see a nail or leak.
Doesn't matter its over a small wall. doesnt need any cuts in the center
I agree, also over lap (review should be 7") like he mentioned but he did @ 4", not to mention the flashing should be behind WRB!!
I dropped my exposure to 5 inches on a dormer for aesthetics...I think maybe that is what he was doing here, but should have explained the proper 7 inch exposure and 8 1/4 starter course and nail placement to avoid seeing nails.....not done per spec at all for JH from the first 1 1/4 that will rot out and not priming cuts to scoring it for a crude/rough end cut....only way for smooth cut is a good blade...shears are good for ripping but horrible for a crisp cut if that matters ...which is the whole point of this product...aesthetics.
UA-cam sucks buffering!!
Tommy, that's the worst looking cuts and gaps I've ever seen from you brother!
:)
should be discoloring, warping, popping nails by now..bad product..