I love my Saturn and still play it often. I had to rebuild my library due to some games being left behind during a move, and the prices of most of them are ridiculous! One place near my home wants $300 for a copy of MegaManX4.
@@aagc1988 Yeah, one of 2 games they added to the original 4 in the DREAMCAST collection(even though it's a Saturn game), the other one being Jet Set Radio(aka Jet Grind Radio)
I have to agree . The Sega Saturn model 1 was amazing for the read disc blinking light to give some indication of how the disc is being read what so ever , but the model 2s in my experience having about 2 dozen + Saturn consoles over the years … the model 2s hold up better then the model ones as well as look better also
Sega REALLY should release a Saturn Mini. It would be a gorgeous console with a great controller, especially if they did the white Japanese model. And, once hackers modified it to allow ROMs, you'd be able to expand the library with games from all Sega's consoles and beyond. Now that would be very cool indeed.
Unfortunately there's a high chance that sega won't release a saturn or dreamcast mini due to the expenses and difficulty according to sources. If so this would make the saturn and dreamcast even more rare.
@@GustoTheGamerIt's easy, what are you talking about. Mednafen is a very light weight emulator. No different from running Nestopia. It's that light weight.
I was aware of the 4MB expansion cart as a kid. Didn't have a Saturn when it was new, but I eventually bought one at a flea market for $50. That's before factoring in games and an adapter for HD RetroVision's Genesis component cable. As for the Pseudo Saturn exploit, I saw that coming since I watched Adam Koralik's video on the Saturn a good few years ago. He mentioned how it's theoretically possible to create an EverDrive for the Saturn. This console keeps surprising the hell out of us 28 years after its release. Once again, you knocked this out of the park.
I'm with you. I never had one originally but I sure am glad I picked one up when I did before the RETRO CRAZE took off! Say the same thing about my NES-101 too!
@@downscale don't buy from those types of people if I ever get rid my games I'll sell them for exactly the same price I got them for $5 from a shop that was going out of business I just want to know it's not going to sit on a shelf gathering dust because someone thought it was an investment
I agree 100% I sold mine like 15 years ago and just bought the saturn and memory cartridge and Legend of oasis (best) mr bones and lost world. Been on a nostalgia week and love it!
Nice to see you do something on the Saturn again . Had mine since i was 24 in 1994 and was actually in Japan on holiday when it came out. So thanks for this. The Saturn has a special place in my heart and your channel is becoming more and more interresting.
Recently got a Saturn myself, it was the only console that I never got when I was younger. I got a psuedo Saturn Cartridge and a load of blank CDs, the back catalogue of the Saturn is fantastic, there is also loads of ROM hacks available. Best £50 I've spent this year.
@@deathmachinezack can it play games that require the 4mb and 8mb memory expansion? I wasn't even looking for the Psuedo cartridge at first, I stumbled across one when I was looking for a memory expansion cartridge. Eventually found on that has save storage, 4 & 8mb memory, action replay and region free game play. Definitely worth the money, paid £15 for it
@@deathmachinezack have mine a little over a year 😅 did mod it though and cleaned the noisy CDROM Motor. Every moving part got attention. I want it to last long.
Big agree with your ethical stance. I still collect for fun, but my general rule of thumb is to never pay more than the original retail price...unless I really wanna.
Personally, these older games are often collectors items and given their rarity and demand sometimes prices to skyrocket. As such I will pay more than retail... but not that much more. The most expensive game I bought was Xenosaga III for $120. And I'm not going over 100 for anything other than the stuff I really want.
For those having issues with the replay card such as resetting to the bios screen or trouble in FMV: the replay card produces electromagnetic interference which can mess up the CD reader. I solved my issues by shielding the card using a bit of aluminum foil in the inner wall of the replay card. When doing this keep in mind the aluminum foil should be isolated with doug tape or similar, as a short circuit can permanently damage your console.
When i was younger i had Nintendo and Sega consoles so i was always happy but i was very sad when the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast didn't perfom well for console longevity and i don't know why Japan didn't let the U.S. get a hold of their games because that would've helped Sega's sales tremendously - smh 😢👎.
My favorite console. The Saturn has so many different models and even a kiosk model for hotels in Japan. Thanks for talking about the non beloved 32 bit console ( not me of course 😜)
The Saturn is such a great system. I grew up with a PS1 and bought my first Saturn on Ebay in 2011. Since than I had many hours of fun with it. I love shoot 'em ups so I bought the wonderful japanese arcade stick with the green buttons. So many great games to play with it. It is a must buy for shoot'em ups and fighting games. My Saturn has a region switch and I installed a modchip to play all the expensive games on it. There is stll so much to discover. Now I can play every game.
You can’t call it a “backup” while also saying it will finally let people play games that they can’t afford to buy. Call it a backup, or call it piracy, but don’t try to have it both ways. And yes I watched the video to the end, and I know that she touches on that a little at the end, but my comments are in general, not specific to just to this content.
I am so mystified that SEGA refuses to do anything with their Saturn library. I would buy ports of Panzer Dragoon SAGA and Shining: The Holy Ark in a heartbeat.
You are 100% correct on your assessment with playing backup copies. I absolutely support the developers when they release anything, but they don't make a dime on these old copies. I just discovered the Pseudo Saturn Kai last year and it's amazing playing translated games FINALLY.
My parents rented a sega saturn from my local game rental place for me when i was a kid, you got the system for only 2 days. I was enthralled with it and played the Hulk game. On the same day i played cops and robbers with a friend and actually called the real cops on the phone and a cop showed to my house lol. Thats my sega saturn story, and it is true. I was like 5 😆
I still have my PAL Saturn bought in 1995, with my cousin, we quickly figured out how to play imports and back-ups by putting a piece of adhesive to shut down the button which detects the opening of the lid, to make the console believe it was closed, and then, a dual swap (first the import/back-up, for the console to learn the CD layout, then an original from the console's country for the protection, and the back-up/import again). The trick worked in the second version of the Saturn as well, but it was a bit trickier, you had a shorter windows for the swaps. Finally, we installed a double switch in our consoles, which allow to switch between any version and frequency, PAL, NTSC US and Jap, and even PAL 60hz :-) We had such a blast with Athlete Kings/Decathlete, Virtua Fighter 2, Dead Or Alive, Fighters Megamix, Street Fighter Zero 2 & 3, KOF 95-97, Nights, SEGA Rally, Saturn Bomberman, Worms, Virtual On, the first Tomb Raider and so on... :-)
I thought getting Panzer Dragoon Saga for just under £300 seemed painful but now it seems an absolute bargain! And that was just in 2020. Don't invest in gold, oil or cryptocurrency, invest in Sega Saturn games! A Sega Saturn Mini running at 60Hz with licensed, cheap downloadable games would be ideal, but at this point, seems to be the pipiest of pipedreams. Also, re-release Saturn Bomberman, the finest of Bomberman games for any system.
Some Saturn games are actually still really affordable and worth playing, such as the Japanese versions of games like Nights into Dreams. However I fully agree with you regarding titles like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Super Tempo (which has become one of my favorite platformers) are absolutely not worth paying anything North of $100 to experience. Anything above $500 is absurdity. I agree with you. Sega should resurrect the Tempo trilogy and Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru.
Panzer Dragoon Saga was definitely worth the $125 I paid for it, and some more, but that was 15 years ago. One of my favorite RPGs of all time. But, yeah, other than as an investment, it and frankly no game is worth the price you would have pay today.
@@jeffapellido1959 Exactly. They're video games. I would feel sick if I allowed myself to fork over hundreds--or worse--thousands of dollars for a video game. If people prefer that to burned games they're crazy.
The all-in-one cart is a blessing. I know it's of little relevance, but I was even pleasently surprised by its poduction quality (for something bought from aliexpress). So I think that I speak for most of us viewers when I say: “Arrr!”
Great video! I dug out my Saturn last year after hearing about PSKai - it's good stuff. It allowed me to play Panzer Dragoon Saga as I wasn't going to risk scratching my original copy (bought for a tenner back in '99 - will hopefully put my kids through uni now!). Turns out it was a bit more pooh than I remember...
At 10:23 I like how you have David Firth's friend Devvo on there! I have a 4-in-1 for my Japanese Saturn, I had no idea it could be used to allow it to play burned copies of the games. Awesome!
Great video!!! I love the Sega Saturn and just started using Psuedo Saturn recently and it is great and a must if you want to play Saturn games on the console without spending a fortune.
I got the extended pseudo kai you mentioned, it has a switch on top to select between 1MB or 4MB ram extension, cheats, import, backup access, and memory card. Great thing is that the memory card, unlike the original action replay, can be used ingame. For the 60Hz issue, I modded my pal model 1 saturn (tricky to do with a chance to ruin the console so I would recommend model 2 instead if you're not used to do these mods) to be able to switch between 50 and 60hz on the fly.
i think this is the first time is see a content creator tackling the topic of emulation vs used market. jeez how come you ALWAYS hit the nail RIGHT in the head???? i'd be scared as hell to make a video like this. great job lady!
Man gotta give props where props are due 👍🏿👍🏿 This woman is 4real.....The research....the information.....the history... I have never even heard of some of these consoles....crazy... Her information and UA-cam page is on point
@@krazysk Yeah, the title is total clickbait. Odd that she's talking about Psuedo Saturn Kai in 2022, when it's been around for years and everyone else has already talked about it, and other methods of playing backups (like the Satiator) are out now.
I think for some companies , if they still want to make a profit from older titles, they can do one of two things. 1.re-releasing older titles digitally to newer hardware 2. Opening a classics vault reproduction line. It's funny how they don't want us to emulate rare and expensive games but also have no plans to release the games in any fashion.
The ultimate choice is the Satiator, you can just plug it into the Saturn's MPEG slot. It's the best ODE solution out there since you can keep the disc drive.
Thank you so much for letting us know to burn it at 16x! It works perfectly now! I have been doing it wrong by burning at 4x that they don`t work sometimes. Love you!
$800 for a complete copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga is what I wish it went for here in North America. I've seen it as high as $1,500! Absolute madness. But I don't blame the market or collectors/sellers but Sega themselves for loosing the source code for the entire game. That's why it hasn't been ported because it can't be until some team reverse engineers it and recreates it. Psuedo Saturn is a godsend. That's how I played Panzer Dragoon Saga and all 3 scenarios of Shining Force 3 as well as an English translation version of Policenaughts.
I'm 42 and was the biggest Sega fanboy. I still maintain had the saturn launched with Sega rally and Virtua fighter remix, things would have been different. Toshinden and ridge racer on the playatation at launch were nowhere near as good. But against a glitchy Virtua fighter and an awful version of daytona, it wasn't difficult to beat Sega
My favorite console ever gets a new video. Nice! Edit: Finished the video now and i entirely agree on burning the games over paying resellers honestly. Ive been using pseudo saturn for a few years now and it helped me greatly to love my japanese model 1 grey saturn even more ever since here in canada! Thinking of upgrading to the satiator in the near future as well. :)
It felt like you barely scratched the surface You should have covered the satiator and other ode projects if you're going to talk about saturn piracy I know the 4 in 1 carts are a cheaper way to go but 30yr old optical drives tend to be finicky and the ode's and satiator fix that issue Would have also been nice to cover the saturn emulators like yaba sanshiro as its come a long way and is mostly playable on current gen phones Love the content, just wish some of it was longer and a bit more in depth
As a child, the 3d graphics of the Sega Saturn always creeped me out compared to N64’s 3D graphics. Not sure why lol But great video! Could tell you did a lot of homework putting this together!
The PS1 versions of X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom 1 suck because they lack the tag-in-and-tag-out-your-partner feature.
No you're totally right on the spot with this one. Although most people don't know the emulator SSF is almost flawless these days. But I admit there's a certain charm to playing these games on the actual console. :)
My friend talked me into buying a Saturn after he received a PS1 so we would have access to both consoles back in the day. So, I bought a Saturn, Guardian Heroes, and Dragon Force on my next payday. After the purchase we went to see a movie and bam FF7 trailer before the film... So next payday I went a bought my own PS1. Still glad I bought my Saturn, and I still have it and these 2 highly sought after games in like new condition.
The MiSTer FPGA has a Sega Saturn core in beta stage of development. It currently plays a lot of games. Sound doesn't work in many games yet, but it's a work in progress.
i bought the saturn as soon as i could for only one title, Sega rally. i was dissapointed that sega fell out of the console wars. the Saturn was a solid gamming system, i thought. i can only imagine how a current gen sega system would perform today.
I accidentally found an easy way to mod a model 1 PAL (VA3) Saturn to 60Hz - I found some circular adhesive pads, about 10mm diameter, basically the sort of thing you may find as feet on a small electrical device. I popped a bit of solder in the middle of the pad, opened up the battery port of the Saturn, and popped it over the middle two of the SW4 contacts, near the battery reset button - sitting very snugly within the case plastic. A switch would obviously be better but I was amused that it worked, and better still, you can remove it any time (even when the power is on).
I'm from El Salvador, so I'm going to talk in dollars. I agree to give our $800 to developers now rather than digging sooooo deep and even sometimes without success. Because that is how we keep them working and launching awesome works that will be very appreciated in the future; I'm a retro collector, but I'm aware that is more a luxury than really supporting the industry in the present. Needless to say, we are everyone having a hard time.
As an American, I do not have access to Jellied Eels. Salt & Vinegar Stax are my go-to! If I can find them... Also, I just got myself a fresh Saturn! Sadly, my old one lost its CD drive to a botched modchip installation. Getting a Satiator for this new one; it lets you load from an SD card, and fits in the VCD card slot at the back! No permanent mods, _and_ you can keep the cartridge slot free!
Great video! I'd recommend burning the discs at a lower speed though, as this would probably cause less wear on the Saturn disc laser (which homeburnt discs already cause more than retail).
It the scalpers on ebay thats buying game if lucky for cheap then selling it on for more >< like thy do with everything almost. Also CD-r's can damaged your Saturn's lazier, so if you can always burn them at first speed, Speed 1. Not more then that or it can speed the disc up to max and end up burning out the mortar or lazier.
Definitely agree with what you said about playing burned copies and supporting SEGA directly instead of paying hundreds of pounds/dollars for a used copy of the game. Would be nice in PDS remastered for modern consoles so everyone would be able to play and know how excellent that game is.
I used the swap trick back in the day around the year 2000 (after I got my first CD burner) to play burned copies of mostly out of region games like Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru, Silhoutte Mirage and Radiant Silvergun (all expensive nowadays and still missing from my collection). Of cause you had to use some tape to "mod" it so opening the tray didn't close the game.
Whenever I have the opportunity, I buy a Sega Saturn game at an affordable price, but you are quite right that it is not necessary to spend millions of dollars to pay people who speculate on the prices in the market, especially since there are improvements in the Sega Saturn that enhance the console is great. For example, Symphony of the Night Extended 1.5, which uses 4mb RAM and speeds up the game and even has graphical improvements including transparency that were criticized for so many years that Sega Saturn could not do.
OK... Now I want a Saturn too!!! I love everdrive-like cartridges! I've collected the NES & Famiclone, Mega Drive, SNES, N64, PS2, Game Cube, GBA, XBOX 360,Nintendo DS, Wii.... Also Atari 2600 Jonior (with lots of build in games) and CPC 464 with lots of cassetes (gonna mod it to work with an mp3 player). For all those systems I have either a large game collection, an "everdrive" or an HDD. I was hoping to get the Dremcast and the 32X (with a MEGA SG maybe) someday.... but now I want the Saturn too! I'm trying to collect gaming stuff that was part of my childhood, and I had very little contact with the Saturn. But with a falshcart it becomes so much more intriguing :)
I got my Saturn in the summer of 1995. I played it like crazy for the first couple of years until game releases started to slow down. I boxed it up not long after the Dreamcast was released. Pseudo Saturn made me dig it out again to experience some games that I've always wanted to play and some that I never knew existed. I made my own Pseudo Saturn cart a few years ago with a 4-in1 Action Replay Plus cart. It didn't lose the ability to use it as a RAM expansion cart. These newer pre-made carts had that problem because they weren't made with the extra RAM.
Nice video, Lady Decade! I've learned quite a bit about the Sega Saturn history's more unknown aspects and games, but this is new to me. All of those Japan-only titles, especially Shining Force III: Scenario II & III, clubbing together with our own PAL titles, to create the complete Sega Saturn experience! Panzer Dragoon Saga is utterly superb! 1998 all over again! I always wanted the Sega Saturn to last longer than it did, perhaps till circa 2001/2002. Though I have no complaints about playing these games in 50hz. It's nostalgic for those of us who grew up in the UK/Europe back in the day. But you'd know that already 😉. You look great in the video, and the whole video itself was 😂 very nice, wah wah wii wah 😂. Jellied eels - never tried them, but I hope to find them somewhere. The way you were laughing hysterically at the end made me laugh 😂.
@@blueskies792 Dear oh dear. There is no pleasing some people. It doesn't matter what Lady Decade didn't include. What she did include was brilliant. I enjoyed the video. And so did a lot of other people. And how do you know that Lady Decade won't include the Free Pseudo Saturn Kai firmware in a future video? Time will tell.
@@blueskies792 I guess you would know all about that one. What's the matter? - can't accept it when someone disagrees with you? A natural born troll. Sadly, one of many.
@Blue Skies How long do you want to keep this up for? Until you have the last word? Well if you're that childish then you can have the last word if it means that you'll get your own way for once. Me - I just came here to watch Lady Decade's incredible videos. Enough said. Now over to you - have your last word on the matter. If it helps you sleep....
@@blueskies792 On the contrary. I just happen to appreciate Lady Decade's videos. Even if some people don't. By nitpicking over the slightest absence, over acknowledging how well put together this video is (just like many other of her videos), I think that you're the one who needs to do the growing up.
Well aware of this. My friends and I would swap out the japanese converter and 4MB ram card all the time to play Xmen Vs Street Fighter and Marvel Vs Street Fighter. I see they now have a combo converter with 4MB ram. I wish I had that back in the 90s. Can't believe it's been almost 30 years. Anyway, we got very good at timing that swap during the Sega logo.
The problem with pseudo Saturn would be that the games have to have a patch flashed onto them which hard to remove even if u use a hex editor...cuz them games dont work with ode devices like Satiator it will show up as an error ....hard to find the roms cuz sited like TheEye seem to have removed them from the data base ...
I'm on the waiting list for the Fenrir ODE which would let me play Saturn games off an SD card. I have something similar for my Gamecube and am very satisfied with that.
NIGHTS: Into Dreams, was ported to the PlayStation 2. Which technically is newer hardware, as the Saturn was discontinued in 1998 and NIGHTS: Into Dreams, was released in 2008 (only in Japan though). A whopping 12 years after it was first released on the SEGA Saturn, a year we wished that SEGA did a re-release of N:ID on the Wii, instead of that godawful NIGHTS: Journey of Dreams. SEGA, however killed NIGHTS with the Wii title, but... In 2012, SEGA released a high definition version of N:ID on the PS3 and Xbox360. Worldwide, which even includes Christmas NIGHTS. While those of us who bought it on PSN, we're stuck without a NIGHTS game on the PS4/PS5 (unless we really want to play PS3 for a small handful of SEGA games). However, those who purchased on the 360, would be able to continue playing on the One and Series X/S. But more impressively, it's on Steam, so it's not going anywhere fast because Steam is the future for some gamers. 😎
As you pointed out, one slight problem with using Pseudo Saturn for NTSC games on a PAL system, it won't play at 60Hz without a hardware mod. If you already have a PAL system, depending on which version of the system you have, the process to do this is easy to moderately tricky. I had my model 2 PAL Saturn modded with a modchip to auto-switch the 50Hz / 60Hz modes and at the same time I had the FRAM mod done so game saves are no longer dependent on the battery backup. I also fitted my Saturn with a Satiator (VCD Card Slot CD drive emulator) so I don't even need to use the CD drive to play games (but it is still available to use if I want to play from a CD) and I have every single game that is playable by a non-Japanese speaker loaded on to it! Naturally I also have a combo Save / RAM / Pseudo Saturn cart, 3D pad, 2nd issue Saturn pad (like Japanese version but black) and even the steering wheel controller!!
If you like this, you may also want to check out the Satiator, which plugs into the expansion port on the Saturn and can load games from a micro SD card - it's plug and play, with no need to take apart the console (similar to the PSIO for the Playstation). There's also a mod for the PS1 that uses a flashed GameShark Pro that works just like the Pseudo Saturn - plugs into the PS1's parallel port and plays burned CD-Rs flawlessly!
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I love my Saturn and still play it often. I had to rebuild my library due to some games being left behind during a move, and the prices of most of them are ridiculous! One place near my home wants $300 for a copy of MegaManX4.
I'd be wary about playing backups. If not burnt properly, they will damage your optical drive.
sad to tell you that nights game is ported to steam for a long while now
@@aagc1988 Yeah, one of 2 games they added to the original 4 in the DREAMCAST collection(even though it's a Saturn game), the other one being Jet Set Radio(aka Jet Grind Radio)
I was thinking about it until you advised burning back ups at 16x
The model 2 Japanese Sega Saturn is probably the most beautiful console ever
I have to agree . The Sega Saturn model 1 was amazing for the read disc blinking light to give some indication of how the disc is being read what so ever , but the model 2s in my experience having about 2 dozen + Saturn consoles over the years … the model 2s hold up better then the model ones as well as look better also
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I prefer the Ridiculous rare Hi Navi Saturn with the lcd
@@preamstrikbiz0 think your making me wanna buy one ^^
Sega REALLY should release a Saturn Mini. It would be a gorgeous console with a great controller, especially if they did the white Japanese model. And, once hackers modified it to allow ROMs, you'd be able to expand the library with games from all Sega's consoles and beyond. Now that would be very cool indeed.
The emulation is still difficult
Yea would be interesting. But I must say I am pretty happy with my self modded used Saturn.
Unfortunately there's a high chance that sega won't release a saturn or dreamcast mini due to the expenses and difficulty according to sources. If so this would make the saturn and dreamcast even more rare.
The S Tribute games from City Connection have a emulator that tries its hardest to do so
@@GustoTheGamerIt's easy, what are you talking about. Mednafen is a very light weight emulator. No different from running Nestopia. It's that light weight.
Nights was a gorgeous game.
I gave my console to a friend.
I was aware of the 4MB expansion cart as a kid. Didn't have a Saturn when it was new, but I eventually bought one at a flea market for $50. That's before factoring in games and an adapter for HD RetroVision's Genesis component cable. As for the Pseudo Saturn exploit, I saw that coming since I watched Adam Koralik's video on the Saturn a good few years ago. He mentioned how it's theoretically possible to create an EverDrive for the Saturn. This console keeps surprising the hell out of us 28 years after its release.
Once again, you knocked this out of the park.
I'm with you. I never had one originally but I sure am glad I picked one up when I did before the RETRO CRAZE took off! Say the same thing about my NES-101 too!
@@downscale don't buy from those types of people if I ever get rid my games I'll sell them for exactly the same price I got them for $5 from a shop that was going out of business I just want to know it's not going to sit on a shelf gathering dust because someone thought it was an investment
The Saturn is my favourite system ever, my 95 system still going strong to this day.
I agree 100% I sold mine like 15 years ago and just bought the saturn and memory cartridge and Legend of oasis (best) mr bones and lost world. Been on a nostalgia week and love it!
Nice to see you do something on the Saturn again . Had mine since i was 24 in 1994 and was actually in Japan on holiday when it came out.
So thanks for this. The Saturn has a special place in my heart and your channel is becoming more and more interresting.
Got mine a couple months ago
Recently got a Saturn myself, it was the only console that I never got when I was younger. I got a psuedo Saturn Cartridge and a load of blank CDs, the back catalogue of the Saturn is fantastic, there is also loads of ROM hacks available. Best £50 I've spent this year.
@@petrolhead0387 had my Saturn modded with region free bios Fram and a phantom board so I didn't need a pseudo saturn cart
@@deathmachinezack can it play games that require the 4mb and 8mb memory expansion? I wasn't even looking for the Psuedo cartridge at first, I stumbled across one when I was looking for a memory expansion cartridge.
Eventually found on that has save storage, 4 & 8mb memory, action replay and region free game play. Definitely worth the money, paid £15 for it
@@deathmachinezack have mine a little over a year 😅 did mod it though and cleaned the noisy CDROM Motor. Every moving part got attention. I want it to last long.
This is why we seriously need a Sega Saturn Classic/Mini. Make it happen Sega.
Big agree with your ethical stance. I still collect for fun, but my general rule of thumb is to never pay more than the original retail price...unless I really wanna.
Personally, these older games are often collectors items and given their rarity and demand sometimes prices to skyrocket. As such I will pay more than retail... but not that much more. The most expensive game I bought was Xenosaga III for $120. And I'm not going over 100 for anything other than the stuff I really want.
For those having issues with the replay card such as resetting to the bios screen or trouble in FMV: the replay card produces electromagnetic interference which can mess up the CD reader. I solved my issues by shielding the card using a bit of aluminum foil in the inner wall of the replay card. When doing this keep in mind the aluminum foil should be isolated with doug tape or similar, as a short circuit can permanently damage your console.
Hey Great Tip! Yes I have to reiterating your warning ⚠ DO NOT LET THE FOIL TOUCH THE GAME'S NOR THE SYSTEM'S CARTRIDGE CONTACTS!!!
You could use foil tape to keep it tight
If that is the issue, you can spray the inside of the cart with copper paint.
When i was younger i had Nintendo and Sega consoles so i was always happy but i was very sad when the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast didn't perfom well for console longevity and i don't know why Japan didn't let the U.S. get a hold of their games because that would've helped Sega's sales tremendously - smh 😢👎.
My favorite console. The Saturn has so many different models and even a kiosk model for hotels in Japan.
Thanks for talking about the non beloved 32 bit console ( not me of course 😜)
The Saturn is such a great system. I grew up with a PS1 and bought my first Saturn on Ebay in 2011. Since than I had many hours of fun with it. I love shoot 'em ups so I bought the wonderful japanese arcade stick with the green buttons. So many great games to play with it. It is a must buy for shoot'em ups and fighting games.
My Saturn has a region switch and I installed a modchip to play all the expensive games on it. There is stll so much to discover. Now I can play every game.
I have an old Saturn. I’d love to fire it back up but I have no games. Any advice, short of just buying physical games?
You can’t call it a “backup” while also saying it will finally let people play games that they can’t afford to buy. Call it a backup, or call it piracy, but don’t try to have it both ways.
And yes I watched the video to the end, and I know that she touches on that a little at the end, but my comments are in general, not specific to just to this content.
I am so mystified that SEGA refuses to do anything with their Saturn library. I would buy ports of Panzer Dragoon SAGA and Shining: The Holy Ark in a heartbeat.
They lost the source code for SAGA if I am not mistaken
You are 100% correct on your assessment with playing backup copies. I absolutely support the developers when they release anything, but they don't make a dime on these old copies.
I just discovered the Pseudo Saturn Kai last year and it's amazing playing translated games FINALLY.
I wish Sega would release a Saturn mini that would be awesome
My parents rented a sega saturn from my local game rental place for me when i was a kid, you got the system for only 2 days. I was enthralled with it and played the Hulk game. On the same day i played cops and robbers with a friend and actually called the real cops on the phone and a cop showed to my house lol. Thats my sega saturn story, and it is true. I was like 5 😆
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I still have my PAL Saturn bought in 1995, with my cousin, we quickly figured out how to play imports and back-ups by putting a piece of adhesive to shut down the button which detects the opening of the lid, to make the console believe it was closed, and then, a dual swap (first the import/back-up, for the console to learn the CD layout, then an original from the console's country for the protection, and the back-up/import again).
The trick worked in the second version of the Saturn as well, but it was a bit trickier, you had a shorter windows for the swaps.
Finally, we installed a double switch in our consoles, which allow to switch between any version and frequency, PAL, NTSC US and Jap, and even PAL 60hz :-)
We had such a blast with Athlete Kings/Decathlete, Virtua Fighter 2, Dead Or Alive, Fighters Megamix, Street Fighter Zero 2 & 3, KOF 95-97, Nights, SEGA Rally, Saturn Bomberman, Worms, Virtual On, the first Tomb Raider and so on... :-)
Saturn Bomberman has an amazing soundtrack! Well done!
I thought getting Panzer Dragoon Saga for just under £300 seemed painful but now it seems an absolute bargain! And that was just in 2020. Don't invest in gold, oil or cryptocurrency, invest in Sega Saturn games! A Sega Saturn Mini running at 60Hz with licensed, cheap downloadable games would be ideal, but at this point, seems to be the pipiest of pipedreams. Also, re-release Saturn Bomberman, the finest of Bomberman games for any system.
#Pipiest
I'm seriously being literally attracted to your videos as of late. Gives off a 90's review vibe.
Some Saturn games are actually still really affordable and worth playing, such as the Japanese versions of games like Nights into Dreams. However I fully agree with you regarding titles like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Super Tempo (which has become one of my favorite platformers) are absolutely not worth paying anything North of $100 to experience. Anything above $500 is absurdity. I agree with you. Sega should resurrect the Tempo trilogy and Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru.
Panzer Dragoon Saga was definitely worth the $125 I paid for it, and some more, but that was 15 years ago. One of my favorite RPGs of all time. But, yeah, other than as an investment, it and frankly no game is worth the price you would have pay today.
@@jeffapellido1959 Exactly. They're video games. I would feel sick if I allowed myself to fork over hundreds--or worse--thousands of dollars for a video game. If people prefer that to burned games they're crazy.
The all-in-one cart is a blessing. I know it's of little relevance, but I was even pleasently surprised by its poduction quality (for something bought from aliexpress). So I think that I speak for most of us viewers when I say: “Arrr!”
Could have said "Yakuza Like a Dragon" instead of "shins mama is tense hey"
Best Sega RPG hands down
OMG the TTTTT noise at the end for eating jellied eels really got me
Great video! I dug out my Saturn last year after hearing about PSKai - it's good stuff. It allowed me to play Panzer Dragoon Saga as I wasn't going to risk scratching my original copy (bought for a tenner back in '99 - will hopefully put my kids through uni now!).
Turns out it was a bit more pooh than I remember...
At 10:23 I like how you have David Firth's friend Devvo on there!
I have a 4-in-1 for my Japanese Saturn, I had no idea it could be used to allow it to play burned copies of the games. Awesome!
6:44 Ive been laughing for 8 minutes at this
Great video!!! I love the Sega Saturn and just started using Psuedo Saturn recently and it is great and a must if you want to play Saturn games on the console without spending a fortune.
I got the extended pseudo kai you mentioned, it has a switch on top to select between 1MB or 4MB ram extension, cheats, import, backup access, and memory card. Great thing is that the memory card, unlike the original action replay, can be used ingame. For the 60Hz issue, I modded my pal model 1 saturn (tricky to do with a chance to ruin the console so I would recommend model 2 instead if you're not used to do these mods) to be able to switch between 50 and 60hz on the fly.
i think this is the first time is see a content creator tackling the topic of emulation vs used market. jeez how come you ALWAYS hit the nail RIGHT in the head???? i'd be scared as hell to make a video like this.
great job lady!
I thank heavens for the existence of emulators,
using emulators i can play games impossible to buy
Man gotta give props where props are due 👍🏿👍🏿
This woman is 4real.....The research....the information.....the history... I have never even heard of some of these consoles....crazy...
Her information and UA-cam page is on point
What research? She spends minutes and minutes talking about stuff already covered in her other videos.
There is literally zero information in this video that isn't easily found anywhere else, including on UA-cam.
@@rars0n exactly. Nothing new or any ground breaking research. Most of the time it's clickbait.
@@krazysk Yeah, the title is total clickbait. Odd that she's talking about Psuedo Saturn Kai in 2022, when it's been around for years and everyone else has already talked about it, and other methods of playing backups (like the Satiator) are out now.
I loved my Saturn.
I think for some companies , if they still want to make a profit from older titles, they can do one of two things.
1.re-releasing older titles digitally to newer hardware
2. Opening a classics vault reproduction line.
It's funny how they don't want us to emulate rare and expensive games but also have no plans to release the games in any fashion.
The ultimate choice is the Satiator, you can just plug it into the Saturn's MPEG slot. It's the best ODE solution out there since you can keep the disc drive.
Thank you so much for letting us know to burn it at 16x! It works perfectly now! I have been doing it wrong by burning at 4x that they don`t work sometimes. Love you!
Kinda wish the Saturn's cartridge slot was MegaDrive compatible as initially planned.
That would have been a killer.
Let's hope someone creating a unoffical Mega Drive/Genesis adapter for The Saturn cartridge, even with support for CD and 32X games.
@@OleAlexanderBrunaes Oh that'd be great!
@MegaManNeo If that will happen, we would also be able to play Master System games on the Saturn with the Master System adapter.
What a fantastic video once again my good lady I have been doing it this fantastic way for a little bit now 😀
Another great vid lady decadence!
2:09 Nice 'Rainbow in the Dark' outfit.
another great video!
Lady Decade never fails to make great content for us.
She's starting to grow on me.
Alot of Saturn stuff never got released anywhere else and that is why I love it.
$800 for a complete copy of Panzer Dragoon Saga is what I wish it went for here in North America. I've seen it as high as $1,500! Absolute madness. But I don't blame the market or collectors/sellers but Sega themselves for loosing the source code for the entire game. That's why it hasn't been ported because it can't be until some team reverse engineers it and recreates it.
Psuedo Saturn is a godsend. That's how I played Panzer Dragoon Saga and all 3 scenarios of Shining Force 3 as well as an English translation version of Policenaughts.
I'm 42 and was the biggest Sega fanboy. I still maintain had the saturn launched with Sega rally and Virtua fighter remix, things would have been different. Toshinden and ridge racer on the playatation at launch were nowhere near as good. But against a glitchy Virtua fighter and an awful version of daytona, it wasn't difficult to beat Sega
For what it's worth, Panzer Dragoon Saga plays just fine on an emulator. I played through the entire game about a year ago on OpenEmu.
My favorite console ever gets a new video. Nice!
Edit: Finished the video now and i entirely agree on burning the games over paying resellers honestly. Ive been using pseudo saturn for a few years now and it helped me greatly to love my japanese model 1 grey saturn even more ever since here in canada! Thinking of upgrading to the satiator in the near future as well. :)
Amazing video. Love it -- Keep it up!!!
It felt like you barely scratched the surface
You should have covered the satiator and other ode projects if you're going to talk about saturn piracy
I know the 4 in 1 carts are a cheaper way to go but 30yr old optical drives tend to be finicky and the ode's and satiator fix that issue
Would have also been nice to cover the saturn emulators like yaba sanshiro as its come a long way and is mostly playable on current gen phones
Love the content, just wish some of it was longer and a bit more in depth
As a child, the 3d graphics of the Sega Saturn always creeped me out compared to N64’s 3D graphics. Not sure why lol
But great video! Could tell you did a lot of homework putting this together!
Relatively speaking, it was the opposite for me (but to each their own)
This was great thanks for the information about Sega Saturn.
Finaly some one who talks sense about back ups.👍🏾
I have literally been using the newer cart today to play my imports. I love the system
The PS1 versions of X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom 1 suck because they lack the tag-in-and-tag-out-your-partner feature.
No you're totally right on the spot with this one.
Although most people don't know the emulator SSF is almost flawless these days. But I admit there's a certain charm to playing these games on the actual console. :)
My friend talked me into buying a Saturn after he received a PS1 so we would have access to both consoles back in the day. So, I bought a Saturn, Guardian Heroes, and Dragon Force on my next payday. After the purchase we went to see a movie and bam FF7 trailer before the film... So next payday I went a bought my own PS1. Still glad I bought my Saturn, and I still have it and these 2 highly sought after games in like new condition.
The MiSTer FPGA has a Sega Saturn core in beta stage of development. It currently plays a lot of games. Sound doesn't work in many games yet, but it's a work in progress.
God damn
That smile gets me every time
i bought the saturn as soon as i could for only one title, Sega rally. i was dissapointed that sega fell out of the console wars. the Saturn was a solid gamming system, i thought. i can only imagine how a current gen sega system would perform today.
King of the castle, King of the castle, I have a chair!!!
It's always great to have options.
I accidentally found an easy way to mod a model 1 PAL (VA3) Saturn to 60Hz - I found some circular adhesive pads, about 10mm diameter, basically the sort of thing you may find as feet on a small electrical device. I popped a bit of solder in the middle of the pad, opened up the battery port of the Saturn, and popped it over the middle two of the SW4 contacts, near the battery reset button - sitting very snugly within the case plastic. A switch would obviously be better but I was amused that it worked, and better still, you can remove it any time (even when the power is on).
The Saturn is my next CIB planned buy on my next trip to Japan.
Some of the Saturn games look so good.
I'm from El Salvador, so I'm going to talk in dollars.
I agree to give our $800 to developers now rather than digging sooooo deep and even sometimes without success. Because that is how we keep them working and launching awesome works that will be very appreciated in the future; I'm a retro collector, but I'm aware that is more a luxury than really supporting the industry in the present.
Needless to say, we are everyone having a hard time.
As an American, I do not have access to Jellied Eels. Salt & Vinegar Stax are my go-to! If I can find them...
Also, I just got myself a fresh Saturn! Sadly, my old one lost its CD drive to a botched modchip installation. Getting a Satiator for this new one; it lets you load from an SD card, and fits in the VCD card slot at the back! No permanent mods, _and_ you can keep the cartridge slot free!
Great video! I'd recommend burning the discs at a lower speed though, as this would probably cause less wear on the Saturn disc laser (which homeburnt discs already cause more than retail).
That's just an urban legend. Your Saturn has no idea what speed discs are burnt at.
It the scalpers on ebay thats buying game if lucky for cheap then selling it on for more >< like thy do with everything almost. Also CD-r's can damaged your Saturn's lazier, so if you can always burn them at first speed, Speed 1. Not more then that or it can speed the disc up to max and end up burning out the mortar or lazier.
those fan translations are a wonderful thing
I now use my Polymega for all my Sega Saturn needs.
Definitely agree with what you said about playing burned copies and supporting SEGA directly instead of paying hundreds of pounds/dollars for a used copy of the game. Would be nice in PDS remastered for modern consoles so everyone would be able to play and know how excellent that game is.
I used the swap trick back in the day around the year 2000 (after I got my first CD burner) to play burned copies of mostly out of region games like Shinrei Jusatsushi Taroumaru, Silhoutte Mirage and Radiant Silvergun (all expensive nowadays and still missing from my collection). Of cause you had to use some tape to "mod" it so opening the tray didn't close the game.
Ty for doing this video, up till now had no idea how this exploit worked!!!
Whenever I have the opportunity, I buy a Sega Saturn game at an affordable price, but you are quite right that it is not necessary to spend millions of dollars to pay people who speculate on the prices in the market, especially since there are improvements in the Sega Saturn that enhance the console is great. For example, Symphony of the Night Extended 1.5, which uses 4mb RAM and speeds up the game and even has graphical improvements including transparency that were criticized for so many years that Sega Saturn could not do.
OK... Now I want a Saturn too!!!
I love everdrive-like cartridges!
I've collected the NES & Famiclone, Mega Drive, SNES, N64, PS2, Game Cube, GBA, XBOX 360,Nintendo DS, Wii.... Also Atari 2600 Jonior (with lots of build in games) and CPC 464 with lots of cassetes (gonna mod it to work with an mp3 player).
For all those systems I have either a large game collection, an "everdrive" or an HDD. I was hoping to get the Dremcast and the 32X (with a MEGA SG maybe) someday.... but now I want the Saturn too!
I'm trying to collect gaming stuff that was part of my childhood, and I had very little contact with the Saturn. But with a falshcart it becomes so much more intriguing :)
I love Sega Saturn! I need to get one of those carts.
I got my Saturn in the summer of 1995. I played it like crazy for the first couple of years until game releases started to slow down. I boxed it up not long after the Dreamcast was released. Pseudo Saturn made me dig it out again to experience some games that I've always wanted to play and some that I never knew existed. I made my own Pseudo Saturn cart a few years ago with a 4-in1 Action Replay Plus cart. It didn't lose the ability to use it as a RAM expansion cart. These newer pre-made carts had that problem because they weren't made with the extra RAM.
Satiator in the video CD expansion card slot is the best overall way to mod your Sega Saturn.
Nice video, Lady Decade!
I've learned quite a bit about the Sega Saturn history's more unknown aspects and games, but this is new to me.
All of those Japan-only titles, especially Shining Force III: Scenario II & III, clubbing together with our own PAL titles, to create the complete Sega Saturn experience!
Panzer Dragoon Saga is utterly superb! 1998 all over again!
I always wanted the Sega Saturn to last longer than it did, perhaps till circa 2001/2002.
Though I have no complaints about playing these games in 50hz. It's nostalgic for those of us who grew up in the UK/Europe back in the day. But you'd know that already 😉.
You look great in the video, and the whole video itself was 😂 very nice, wah wah wii wah 😂.
Jellied eels - never tried them, but I hope to find them somewhere. The way you were laughing hysterically at the end made me laugh 😂.
@@blueskies792 Dear oh dear. There is no pleasing some people. It doesn't matter what Lady Decade didn't include. What she did include was brilliant. I enjoyed the video. And so did a lot of other people. And how do you know that Lady Decade won't include the Free Pseudo Saturn Kai firmware in a future video? Time will tell.
@@blueskies792 I guess you would know all about that one. What's the matter? - can't accept it when someone disagrees with you? A natural born troll. Sadly, one of many.
@@blueskies792 The truth's the truth. No amount of undermining me is going to change all that.
@Blue Skies How long do you want to keep this up for? Until you have the last word? Well if you're that childish then you can have the last word if it means that you'll get your own way for once.
Me - I just came here to watch Lady Decade's incredible videos. Enough said.
Now over to you - have your last word on the matter.
If it helps you sleep....
@@blueskies792 On the contrary. I just happen to appreciate Lady Decade's videos. Even if some people don't.
By nitpicking over the slightest absence, over acknowledging how well put together this video is (just like many other of her videos), I think that you're the one who needs to do the growing up.
Amazing video about an important subject.
Love your channel and videos, keep doing what you're doing - fantastic!
Publishers never see a cent of second hand sales, so what do they care if out-of-print software is pirated?
Wish I had this in the day....
Alas my collection had to be sold in 2013 due to life.
Gutted.
Thank lord for emulation at least
Well aware of this. My friends and I would swap out the japanese converter and 4MB ram card all the time to play Xmen Vs Street Fighter and Marvel Vs Street Fighter. I see they now have a combo converter with 4MB ram. I wish I had that back in the 90s. Can't believe it's been almost 30 years. Anyway, we got very good at timing that swap during the Sega logo.
The problem with pseudo Saturn would be that the games have to have a patch flashed onto them which hard to remove even if u use a hex editor...cuz them games dont work with ode devices like Satiator it will show up as an error ....hard to find the roms cuz sited like TheEye seem to have removed them from the data base ...
Wow these videos are great keep up the good work I just subscribed to you
I agree with you Ladydecade.
Jammie Dodgers were my goto back in the day when, I was able to get a regular supply.
Two words - Lik Sang. RIP my friend
I loved the ending 😂
Bullshit ,everyone that had a saturn knew what that slot was for!
I'm on the waiting list for the Fenrir ODE which would let me play Saturn games off an SD card. I have something similar for my Gamecube and am very satisfied with that.
NIGHTS: Into Dreams, was ported to the PlayStation 2. Which technically is newer hardware, as the Saturn was discontinued in 1998 and NIGHTS: Into Dreams, was released in 2008 (only in Japan though). A whopping 12 years after it was first released on the SEGA Saturn, a year we wished that SEGA did a re-release of N:ID on the Wii, instead of that godawful NIGHTS: Journey of Dreams. SEGA, however killed NIGHTS with the Wii title, but... In 2012, SEGA released a high definition version of N:ID on the PS3 and Xbox360. Worldwide, which even includes Christmas NIGHTS. While those of us who bought it on PSN, we're stuck without a NIGHTS game on the PS4/PS5 (unless we really want to play PS3 for a small handful of SEGA games). However, those who purchased on the 360, would be able to continue playing on the One and Series X/S. But more impressively, it's on Steam, so it's not going anywhere fast because Steam is the future for some gamers. 😎
As you pointed out, one slight problem with using Pseudo Saturn for NTSC games on a PAL system, it won't play at 60Hz without a hardware mod. If you already have a PAL system, depending on which version of the system you have, the process to do this is easy to moderately tricky. I had my model 2 PAL Saturn modded with a modchip to auto-switch the 50Hz / 60Hz modes and at the same time I had the FRAM mod done so game saves are no longer dependent on the battery backup. I also fitted my Saturn with a Satiator (VCD Card Slot CD drive emulator) so I don't even need to use the CD drive to play games (but it is still available to use if I want to play from a CD) and I have every single game that is playable by a non-Japanese speaker loaded on to it! Naturally I also have a combo Save / RAM / Pseudo Saturn cart, 3D pad, 2nd issue Saturn pad (like Japanese version but black) and even the steering wheel controller!!
With all those add ons the Saturn was literally on life support
If you like this, you may also want to check out the Satiator, which plugs into the expansion port on the Saturn and can load games from a micro SD card - it's plug and play, with no need to take apart the console (similar to the PSIO for the Playstation).
There's also a mod for the PS1 that uses a flashed GameShark Pro that works just like the Pseudo Saturn - plugs into the PS1's parallel port and plays burned CD-Rs flawlessly!
Here in brazil, almost every game for ps1 which was sold was a pirate copy. Some of those cd's were really well made.