Thanks for your video. I think as much as this makes us Christians uncomfortable, we must not try to sugarcoat the Bible or make it look nicer. Horrendous things happened and God made sure they were written so we can learn from them. Jephtah clearly stated that whoever came out his house first he was going to "offer it up for a burnt offering". The vow was not ambiguous. The Bible then says that he did with her "according to his vow". I don't think we should disregard what is clearly stated for theories and speculations that go against it.
In Psalms it is written that he(the L-rd) shall cover you with his feathers 🪶 and under his wings shalt thous trust… Am I to understand that this clearly identifies the most high as a giant fowl in the sky? Is it a theory and speculation to believe otherwise? Or is this a case of metaphor? If Jephthah stated outside it rained cats 🐱 🐈 and dogs can i ambiguously assumed maybe he was just using colorful language? Or are all things literal? Jesus spoke of the temple of his body and the literalist thought he meant a literal temple.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark @Faith & Fact - Marky Mark Come on Sir ! You cannot keep quoting Psalms as if it gives credibility to the argument . Surely we know the difference between these different examples. We know the book of Psalms is not meant to be historical. These are songs and poems and throughout the book we see imageries and metaphors. This is not the case for the book of judges that is meant to be historical. Maybe not the way we understand history today but cleary not metaphorical. Jephtah did not state it rained cats so let us not speculate and Jesus was known to speak in parables and using metaphors so this is nothing out of the ordinary. You clearly gave the context of the book of Judges. We know burnt offerings were a common practice then. Why would you assume throughout the whole book it was literal, and only when Jephtah mentionned it, it is metaphorical ? This is not being consistent. We do not need to justify why God let certain things happened the way they did by changing the story. In this specific example, Jephtah made this vow himself. God never asked Him to do so. He was influenced by the practices of the Ammonites and promised something God never allowed in the first place. God being God, He let it happened, maybe so Jephthah, the people of Isreael and us today reading it learn from it. However, this is my view and I accept that you have yours. I just don't think the way you justify it is sound. God bless
That’s ok 👍 that we disagree but I will really ask you to reconsider. If you stick to those most qualified to interpret the words it is the Hebrew Rabbis. Overwhelmingly if you watch their interpretation most of them believe though he made the vow, the offering was that of celibacy. I think they are far more qualified with Hebrew idioms. He’s an excellent example . ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html Please diligently examine to show yourself an approved workman unto God rightly dividing the word of truth. Of course that doesn’t mean you have to come to the same conclusion as I but I wouldn’t want to be on the opposite side of those in the know of cultural idioms and the original languages.
Look at the eerie similarities or parallel with Jon of Arc story. We know she too died as a burnt offering. Why did the virgins bewail the daugter of Jeptha if she had not died.
Hey 👋 India, how can you be certain it was literal and not a metaphor? Is this literal? Psalm 91:4 He shall cover you with his feathers and under his wings shall thou trust.
@@correctingspiritually2001 Apparently there are scholars on both side.... See my buddy Guy Chef weighs in at 1:10:27 ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html He sees it as I do that this is NOT human sacrifice, this is a vow of chastity. However, you are welcomed to see this however you wish. Blessings to you. -mark
Point taken. But i think it's safe to assume that he did sacrifice his daughter, because he made that vow to God. What strikes me is that how totally different people in those days looked at life, death and honour. The daughter accepted her fate, Jeptha kept his word. All for God. Their faith in Him and reverence for Him was uncompromized. But what i have trouble with reconciling is that God apparently did not stop this sacrifice. I mean, one would expect God to confront Jeptha with his foolish vow, and the situation he gotten himself and his daughter into. Did it have to be this hard of a lesson? Well, i suppose it had to..
One mega disparity between a mortal human perspective and an immortal God I believe is the issue of integrity, righteousness and the afterlife. For an eternal God his priorities are about the condition of our hearts which is the treasure he desires. For mortals death 💀 is considered the ultimate loss. But in the grand equation death is only a clock ⏰ where some get more, some less. There’s a saying from Jon Courson that God is more interested in your eternal state than your current comfort. So if God permits this to happen as an object lesson for all eternity versus allowing his daughter another sixty years is the trade off in view. We don’t know. We trust God with this current ride on a rock barreling through space without interrogation, because we know we can trust his loving providential, mysterious, and divine will. Therefore, I leave these unsolvable questions in his loving hands in and consider the things we do know from the scripture and have confidence in. Romans 8:32 New International Version He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all-how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
I agree, the lesson was hard. God seems to value allowing the free will of man to the point where he will not stop humanity from going astray or making really stupid pagan vows, as in this case. Either way Matt 5:33-37 is the answer to the problem. Great video and yes, it is on point my friend.
@@rwatson2609 Then you would fall on my son's side. We have a standing discourse about this subject. 😊 I still contend that it was a vow of chastity. I was just reading Hebrews 11 the "hall of faith" this morning. Among all the excellent biblical examples of faith, I am persuaded that the writer of Hebrews when commending excellent behavior of biblical faith, e.g. great examples of the past, held my position as well. Otherwise, he could have chosen much better than to name the scandalous name of Jephthah. Perhaps, Naomi, Samuel, Hannah, Ruth, Ezra, Nehemiah any one! No indeed, I would contend, Jephthah was indeed an excellent example of faith and was well respected by his family including his daughter who was more than willing to be dedicated for life to the LORD. However, if you disagree I can certainly understand your well founded rationale as well. Thanks for the props. Blessings! 💗
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark I will confess that I do not know Hebrew well enough to cast a solid opinion but, I did look at the Hebrew in the Textus Receptus, since thats all I have. The same two words in the same order are used in Gen 22:2 as in Judges 11:31 for the phrase offer it up as a burnt offering. The Genesis passage is in regards to Isaac, and we know what God was thinking there. Anyways what I do not know is that due to the fact that these Hebrew words have some extra prefix and suffices added to them leaves me unable to determine what if anything these extra letters have to do with changing what is meant in each passage, because some times they do. That being being said, I would on average sway towards your opinion since the whole concept sounds really twisted. My final thought, The NET bible, which is the newest one that I possess, which claims to use the most current manuscript knowledge available says something in Judges 11:39 that makes me wonder. It uses the phrase tragic death, which doesn't show up in any other translation that I have.
Make sure you watch my friend Guy Chef's video for an exhaustive analysis of the did Jephthah really participate in the abhorrent practice of human sacrifice? Well said Guy Chef! ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html
Excellent 👌 question CT. I’m not certain how to answer, I can say that in the Bible it was expressly forbidden to give you kids as a sacrifice as was the custom in Tophet(valley of Hinnom) for real, burning them alive to some deity like Molech heaven or Baal. Yet with the Messiah it did not violate any of the Old Testament law as this is NOT what was happening with the blood sacrifice of Yeshua the lamb 🐑 of G-d who gives himself for the sins of the world. 🌎 So I would have to say this was not a violation of scripture yet actually a fulfillment of what was predicted of the messiah of israel by Isaiah, david, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Moses, etc.
I’m not interested in religion Brother. I’m interested in reality. If Jesus really died and rose again it’s dumb to call it “religion”. If he did not die and rise again I would not rather not dignify Christianity by calling it “religion”, lies would be better. Are you interested in truth?
Jesuswas a man and he was sacrificed right ? so why you causing confusion ? getting back on piont , The passage says Jephthat made a burned offering thats why he moured and tore his clothes. This is not difficult its pretty simple to understand. God didnt make the vow or ask Jephthat to make a burned offering .
That is definitely a school of thought.👍 But is not a satisfyingly explanation for me. If you are open to an alternative… ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html 1. Most Rabbis, who know the original language Best seem to think he did not break the law with human sacrifice. 2. It makes no sense to me that his daughter would mourn virginity when she’s dead ☠️ and then every year her friends would also mourn the virginity of a dead girl. 3. Makes no sense to me that Jephthah would be commended in the book of Hebrews chapter 11, the “hall of faith” IF he did something so foolish and wicked, the very evil honoring the god Molech and offering a child. For these compelling reasons I conclude the vow was simply an offering of virginity, sort of like a Nazarite vow or the vow Hannah made concerning Samuel. However, I can certainly understand your rationale.
You would then agree with my wife but not me. 🤣 I also tracked a bunch of Rabbis/OT authorities, almost all, I want to say 90% take the view that text affirms a vow of celibacy and not human sacrifice. I stand with them as well.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark I take God's Word over any rabbi. Also it says if a woman vows being in her husbands house. So it is talking about vows in general not just celibacy.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark Why so much sorrow by Jepthae and the mourning of the virgins if jepthae's problem was merely a vow of sudden clibacy. It is to wonder why he vowed to offer someone up in the first place. Always had me wonder did he expect his wife to come out first? If you dont like a servant you just get anotherone. Or did usualy pets and animals come out first what a terrible foolish dare to vow to offer the first thing that comes out of the house. Something in the Scriptures are strange no needing a completely antiscriptural explanation.
@@estherbaptist9086 Its completely against the law. If he thought he was going to do a human sacrifice maybe he should be following Molech. The only human sacrifice was his son Yeshua. Human sacrifice makes zero sense to me and to the Rabbis who read in the native tongue. But I can understand how you came to your conclusion.
🤣🤣 I’m sorry. 😆I’m a musician you sure? it starts in a with a mysterious motif that quickly contrasts with a then rising joy inspiring major just give it a few second. 😁
Jephthah didn't actually sacrifice his daughter, she was "sacrificed"/given to the Lord in terms of dying a virgin.
Thanks for your video.
I think as much as this makes us Christians uncomfortable, we must not try to sugarcoat the Bible or make it look nicer. Horrendous things happened and God made sure they were written so we can learn from them.
Jephtah clearly stated that whoever came out his house first he was going to "offer it up for a burnt offering". The vow was not ambiguous. The Bible then says that he did with her "according to his vow".
I don't think we should disregard what is clearly stated for theories and speculations that go against it.
In Psalms it is written that he(the L-rd) shall cover you with his feathers 🪶 and under his wings shalt thous trust…
Am I to understand that this clearly identifies the most high as a giant fowl in the sky?
Is it a theory and speculation to believe otherwise? Or is this a case of metaphor?
If Jephthah stated outside it rained cats 🐱 🐈 and dogs can i ambiguously assumed maybe he was just using colorful language?
Or are all things literal? Jesus spoke of the temple of his body and the literalist thought he meant a literal temple.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark @Faith & Fact - Marky Mark Come on Sir ! You cannot keep quoting Psalms as if it gives credibility to the argument . Surely we know the difference between these different examples. We know the book of Psalms is not meant to be historical. These are songs and poems and throughout the book we see imageries and metaphors. This is not the case for the book of judges that is meant to be historical. Maybe not the way we understand history today but cleary not metaphorical. Jephtah did not state it rained cats so let us not speculate and Jesus was known to speak in parables and using metaphors so this is nothing out of the ordinary.
You clearly gave the context of the book of Judges. We know burnt offerings were a common practice then. Why would you assume throughout the whole book it was literal, and only when Jephtah mentionned it, it is metaphorical ? This is not being consistent.
We do not need to justify why God let certain things happened the way they did by changing the story.
In this specific example, Jephtah made this vow himself. God never asked Him to do so. He was influenced by the practices of the Ammonites and promised something God never allowed in the first place. God being God, He let it happened, maybe so Jephthah, the people of Isreael and us today reading it learn from it.
However, this is my view and I accept that you have yours. I just don't think the way you justify it is sound. God bless
That’s ok 👍 that we disagree but I will really ask you to reconsider.
If you stick to those most qualified to interpret the words it is the Hebrew Rabbis. Overwhelmingly if you watch their interpretation most of them believe though he made the vow, the offering was that of celibacy.
I think they are far more qualified with Hebrew idioms.
He’s an excellent example
. ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html
Please diligently examine to show yourself an approved workman unto God rightly dividing the word of truth.
Of course that doesn’t mean you have to come to the same conclusion as I but I wouldn’t want to be on the opposite side of those in the know of cultural idioms and the original languages.
Amen. There are always exceptions to make us beware. A vow is a serious thing.
Look at the eerie similarities or parallel with Jon of Arc story. We know she too died as a burnt offering. Why did the virgins bewail the daugter of Jeptha if she had not died.
No sir , Jephtah literally sacrificed his daughter. Because Bible says.
From India
Hey 👋 India, how can you be certain it was literal and not a metaphor?
Is this literal?
Psalm 91:4
He shall cover you with his feathers and under his wings shall thou trust.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark no this is not metaphor
@@correctingspiritually2001 Apparently there are scholars on both side.... See my buddy Guy Chef weighs in at
1:10:27 ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html
He sees it as I do that this is NOT human sacrifice, this is a vow of chastity.
However, you are welcomed to see this however you wish. Blessings to you.
-mark
Point taken.
But i think it's safe to assume that he did sacrifice his daughter, because he made that vow to God.
What strikes me is that how totally different people in those days looked at life, death and honour.
The daughter accepted her fate, Jeptha kept his word.
All for God.
Their faith in Him and reverence for Him was uncompromized.
But what i have trouble with reconciling is that God apparently did not stop this sacrifice.
I mean, one would expect God to confront Jeptha with his foolish vow, and the situation he gotten himself and his daughter into.
Did it have to be this hard of a lesson?
Well, i suppose it had to..
One mega disparity between a mortal human perspective and an immortal God I believe is the issue of integrity, righteousness and the afterlife. For an eternal God his priorities are about the condition of our hearts which is the treasure he desires. For mortals death 💀 is considered the ultimate loss. But in the grand equation death is only a clock ⏰ where some get more, some less. There’s a saying from Jon Courson that God is more interested in your eternal state than your current comfort. So if God permits this to happen as an object lesson for all eternity versus allowing his daughter another sixty years is the trade off in view.
We don’t know. We trust God with this current ride on a rock barreling through space without interrogation, because we know we can trust his loving providential, mysterious, and divine will. Therefore, I leave these unsolvable questions in his loving hands in and consider the things we do know from the scripture and have confidence in.
Romans 8:32
New International Version
He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all-how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
Deuteronomy 29:29
The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.
I agree, the lesson was hard. God seems to value allowing the free will of man to the point where he will not stop humanity from going astray or making really stupid pagan vows, as in this case. Either way Matt 5:33-37 is the answer to the problem. Great video and yes, it is on point my friend.
@@rwatson2609 Then you would fall on my son's side. We have a standing discourse about this subject. 😊
I still contend that it was a vow of chastity.
I was just reading Hebrews 11 the "hall of faith" this morning. Among all the excellent biblical examples of faith, I am persuaded that the writer of Hebrews when commending excellent behavior of biblical faith, e.g. great examples of the past, held my position as well. Otherwise, he could have chosen much better than to name the scandalous name of Jephthah. Perhaps, Naomi, Samuel, Hannah, Ruth, Ezra, Nehemiah any one! No indeed, I would contend, Jephthah was indeed an excellent example of faith and was well respected by his family including his daughter who was more than willing to be dedicated for life to the LORD. However, if you disagree I can certainly understand your well founded rationale as well. Thanks for the props.
Blessings! 💗
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark I will confess that I do not know Hebrew well enough to cast a solid opinion but, I did look at the Hebrew in the Textus Receptus, since thats all I have. The same two words in the same order are used in Gen 22:2 as in Judges 11:31 for the phrase offer it up as a burnt offering. The Genesis passage is in regards to Isaac, and we know what God was thinking there. Anyways what I do not know is that due to the fact that these Hebrew words have some extra prefix and suffices added to them leaves me unable to determine what if anything these extra letters have to do with changing what is meant in each passage, because some times they do. That being being said, I would on average sway towards your opinion since the whole concept sounds really twisted. My final thought, The NET bible, which is the newest one that I possess, which claims to use the most current manuscript knowledge available says something in Judges 11:39 that makes me wonder. It uses the phrase tragic death, which doesn't show up in any other translation that I have.
Make sure you watch my friend Guy Chef's video for an exhaustive analysis of the did Jephthah really participate in the abhorrent practice of human sacrifice?
Well said Guy Chef! ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html
What about Jesus? Wasn't he offered as a human sacrifice? Why?
Excellent 👌 question CT.
I’m not certain how to answer, I can say that in the Bible it was expressly forbidden to give you kids as a sacrifice as was the custom in Tophet(valley of Hinnom) for real, burning them alive to some deity like Molech heaven or Baal.
Yet with the Messiah it did not violate any of the Old Testament law as this is NOT what was happening with the blood sacrifice of Yeshua the lamb 🐑 of G-d who gives himself for the sins of the world. 🌎
So I would have to say this was not a violation of scripture yet actually a fulfillment of what was predicted of the messiah of israel by Isaiah, david, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Moses, etc.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark Jesus gives himself for the sins of the world!, then he is a sinner
@@MazenArafat your guitar riffs on the wall are on point! You're logic regarding sin, however, is abysmally incoherent.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark religion is a sea, and each understands it on his way,, peace
I’m not interested in religion Brother.
I’m interested in reality.
If Jesus really died and rose again it’s dumb to call it “religion”.
If he did not die and rise again I would not rather not dignify Christianity by calling it “religion”, lies would be better.
Are you interested in truth?
Jephthah's character, & his vow: ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html
Thanks Guy! I concur. Well thought out analysis, wish I had your command of Hebrew. Blessings!
-mark
Jesuswas a man and he was sacrificed right ? so why you causing confusion ? getting back on piont , The passage says Jephthat made a burned offering thats why he moured and tore his clothes. This is not difficult its pretty simple to understand. God didnt make the vow or ask Jephthat to make a burned offering .
That is definitely a school of thought.👍
But is not a satisfyingly explanation for me.
If you are open to an alternative…
ua-cam.com/video/ymq7St57toA/v-deo.html
1. Most Rabbis, who know the original language Best seem to think he did not break the law with human sacrifice.
2. It makes no sense to me that his daughter would mourn virginity when she’s dead ☠️ and then every year her friends would also mourn the virginity of a dead girl.
3. Makes no sense to me that Jephthah would be commended in the book of Hebrews chapter 11, the “hall of faith” IF he did something so foolish and wicked, the very evil honoring the god Molech and offering a child.
For these compelling reasons I conclude the vow was simply an offering of virginity, sort of like a Nazarite vow or the vow Hannah made concerning Samuel.
However, I can certainly understand your rationale.
It is literal. Law of exception and law of first mention. Beware what you vow
You would then agree with my wife but not me. 🤣
I also tracked a bunch of Rabbis/OT authorities, almost all, I want to say 90% take the view that text affirms a vow of celibacy and not human sacrifice. I stand with them as well.
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark I take God's Word over any rabbi. Also it says if a woman vows being in her husbands house. So it is talking about vows in general not just celibacy.
@estherbaptist9086 All he had to do was go to the Judges and they would've nulled the vow😂
@@FaithAndFactMarkyMark Why so much sorrow by Jepthae and the mourning of the virgins if jepthae's problem was merely a vow of sudden clibacy. It is to wonder why he vowed to offer someone up in the first place. Always had me wonder did he expect his wife to come out first? If you dont like a servant you just get anotherone. Or did usualy pets and animals come out first what a terrible foolish dare to vow to offer the first thing that comes out of the house. Something in the Scriptures are strange no needing a completely antiscriptural explanation.
@@estherbaptist9086 Its completely against the law. If he thought he was going to do a human sacrifice maybe he should be following Molech. The only human sacrifice was his son Yeshua. Human sacrifice makes zero sense to me and to the Rabbis who read in the native tongue.
But I can understand how you came to your conclusion.
A word of advice......I am not watching this video because of the creepy music that is playing. Cut the music and I will watch.
🤣🤣 I’m sorry. 😆I’m a musician you sure? it starts in a with a mysterious motif that quickly contrasts with a then rising joy inspiring major just give it a few second. 😁